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Those sneaky hobitsies, space wizards, and dream walkers who were actually the bad guys all along.
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00:00Whether they were aware of just how much chaos they were causing or not,
00:04or simply did certain things that only a bad guy could dream of,
00:08this bunch of movie quote-unquote heroes were all secretly way more villainous than you may
00:14have realised during a first watch. Oh yeah, and just a special thank you to GeekDaddy75's tweet
00:19on X that inspired this very list too. So with all that said, I am Gareth,
00:24this is WhatCulture, and here are 10 good guys who were secretly the villain.
00:2910. Tony Stark The MCU The iconic Iron Man known as Tony Stark gave his life to save the entire
00:36universe. But in the time before that heartbreaking sacrifice, this Avenger certainly had more than
00:42his fair share of rather villainous moments. People grow of course, and a few mistakes along
00:47the way don't necessarily make you an irredeemable supervillain. However, even after Tony realises
00:53the error of his old playboy billionaire ways, and stops making weapons to be sold off,
00:58the founding member of Earth's Mightiest Heroes still did some rather questionable stuff over
01:03the years. There was that time he ignorantly helped create Ultron in an attempt to keep the
01:08planet safe, with that move almost leading to the population's destruction and still killing many
01:13innocent souls. And remember when Stark just decided to chuck a kid into the middle of a superhuman
01:18battle against the likes of Captain America and the gang, and ultimately put him in all kinds of
01:23danger too. Again, it's not as though Stark was actively looking to cause damage or ruin lives
01:28with these choices. But that doesn't change the fact that his actions were eventually viewed as
01:33bad slash evil ones by the people who suffered the most because of them.
01:379. Miles Morales Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse
01:40He may be the lead protagonist during both of the Masterful Spider-Verse animated pictures,
01:45but after the events of Across the Spider-Verse, there is an argument to be made for Miles Morales
01:50actually being one of the series' key antagonists. Coming into the 2023 flick,
01:55fans weren't aware that the spider Miles was bitten by during Into the Spider-Verse wasn't
01:59actually from his universe. It had been pulled into Earth-1610 by a pre-spot Jonathan owned during
02:06a collider test. The fact this Earth-42 spider then bit Morales led to him becoming the original
02:11anomaly that kicked off the series of events that resulted in the spot becoming the spider society
02:17and multiverse's biggest headache. In other words, had Miles not been painting graffiti in an abandoned
02:22subway station with his Uncle Aaron that night, perhaps fate wouldn't have eventually tried to
02:27correct this unplanned bite by having Earth-1610's Peter Parker killed, the super-powerful spot wouldn't
02:33have been created, and the multiverse wouldn't be in danger of falling apart. And also, despite being
02:38told by the spider society that trying to stop the incoming canon event of his police captain father
02:43being killed, could end up destroying his universe, does that stop Miles trying? Not a chance. He isn't
02:49the villain of his own story, but he would be in the stories of countless innocent souls if the
02:54multiverse does ultimately get decimated because of his actions.
02:578. Frodo Baggins, The Lord of the Rings
03:00Though he may have started out as a rather innocent soul who just wanted to help his pal Gandalf and
03:05the
03:05rest of the gang get the nasty ring back into the volcano it came from, Frodo Baggins hadn't half
03:10turned into a whiny annoyance by the time The Lord of the Rings The Return of the King reached its
03:14dramatic conclusion. Over the course of his and Samwise Gamgee's quest to get the bling to Mordor,
03:20the One Ring began to corrupt the Little Hobbit. Baggins continually lashed out at his poor mate
03:25during this epic journey, with Frodo also not even thinking twice about telling his pal to get lost
03:31after being easily fooled by the Trixie Gollum. And even after all that, Sam still refused to give up on
03:37his petulant friend, returning to literally carry the increasingly annoying Baggins up Mount Doom.
03:42What was Gamgee's reward for being the real hero of this story? Frodo having a properly villainous
03:47change of heart at the last minute, and popping the ring on his finger after rejecting the idea
03:52of dumping it in the lava. Sure, poor Frodo did have to deal with carrying a poisonous burden no one
03:58else could throughout the flicks, and would inadvertently help destroy it after trying to
04:02wrestle it back off Gollum afterwards, not before having a finger chewed off. But he'd already
04:06established himself as the secret villain of the rings long before that accidental heroism.
04:11Number 7, Peter Parker, The Amazing Spider-Man
04:14Swinging back into spider territory for this next entry, Andrew Garfield's version of the iconic
04:19web-slinger found himself in a rather unenviable position during The Amazing Spider-Man series.
04:25As his girlfriend's father lay dying in front of him, Parker was made to promise Captain George
04:29Stacey that he would not continue seeing his daughter. This would help keep Gwen safe from
04:34the dangers being associated with Spider-Man could bring. So while it would unquestionably be a tough
04:40decision, Peter must have known deep down that this was the only way he could ensure his beloved
04:45would stay out of harm's way. Not to mention the fact that breaking a promise you've made to a dead
04:49man isn't exactly hero behaviour either. But does that stop Parker from ultimately going back on his
04:54word one film later? Nope. Sure, they do eventually break things off at one point in the
04:59sequel, but Parker still ends up professing his love for Gwen as the pair go on to plan a life
05:04together in England. All this leads to the heartbreaking moment Gwen inevitably gets caught
05:08in the middle of more spidey drama and killed before film's end. And it could have all been avoided
05:13had Parker not selfishly decided to ignore a dying man's wishes.
05:18Number 6, The Jedi, Star Wars. The four sensitive warriors focused on keeping the peace in the galaxy
05:23far, far away. May have felt they were the folks fighting the good fight in Star Wars,
05:28but the Jedi Order certainly weren't perfect by any means. In fact, there were times there when
05:33they were downright villainous. Just look at the way they recruited the next generation of
05:37potential Jedi knights and masters. After searching the galaxy for four sensitive youngsters,
05:42the Order would whisk them away from their families as children, with many not even properly
05:46remembering their parents' faces. That's rather cruel whatever way you slice it with a lightsaber.
05:51They were also extremely arrogant and rash around the time of the prequel trilogy in particular,
05:56with the masters on the Jedi Council doubting the return of the Sith, and being quick to expel
06:01Ahsoka Tano from the Order in the Clone Wars animated series, after she was framed for an attack
06:06on the temple. I know we're mostly talking about movies here, but it's still worth saying.
06:10And their response when Ahsoka was proved innocent, they tried to frame the ordeal as a trial that
06:15helped turn her into a better Jedi. The cheek!
06:18They also used Jedi mind tricks to control weak-minded folk, have a history of lying
06:23through their teeth, certain point of view my ass, and were even happy to completely bypass
06:28a trial and skip straight to executing individuals. With friends like these, who needs the Sith,
06:33right?
06:345. Dr. John Hammond, Jurassic Park
06:36There are those who would be quick to point to the terrifying Tyrannosaurus Rex, chilling
06:41Velociraptors, and the selfish Dennis Nedry as the iconic Jurassic Park's true villains.
06:46But you've always known, deep down, the person truly responsible for all of the death and
06:51chaos was the bloke who decided to foolishly create the unbelievable theme park in the first
06:56place. Sure, Dr. John Hammond is very much a loving grandparent, and a man who wanted to
07:00bring the joy of witnessing dinosaurs in the flesh to the world. However, he's also a rather
07:05arrogant person, who didn't stop to think whether what they were trying to achieve on Isla
07:09Nublar was ethical, rushing to unleash prehistoric creatures without bothering to question if
07:14it was even the right thing to do. And while Hammond would also claim to have spared no expense,
07:19it was the fact the stingy businessman refused to pay the aforementioned Nedry more that ultimately
07:23kicked off the mayhem that led to numerous fatalities. Put simply, here was a guy who
07:28selfishly chose to wield a power he didn't fully understand, playing God in order to make money
07:33from the return of the dinos. At least he learned his lesson by film's end though, eh?
07:37Number 4, Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter
07:40During those first few trips to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, the majority of viewers
07:45grew to respect and admire the powerful and wise headmaster known as Albus Dumbledore. However,
07:51by the time the Harry Potter series reached its end in 2011, it had actually become quite difficult
07:56to class the mighty wizard as an out-and-out hero. If the fact that he routinely put his students
08:01in serious danger whilst they were being educated under his roof wasn't bad enough, allowing Harry and
08:06Hermione to riskily travel back in time, allowing an underage student to enter the Triwizard
08:11tournament, the list really does go on. The real reason he protected Potter for all those years was
08:17about as cold and dreadful as it gets. It turned out that Dumbledore wasn't looking after young Harry
08:22because he cared for the lad. Nope, he just realised long ago that he was actually likely another one of
08:27Voldemort's Horcruxes, and had been manipulating him and raising the lad like a pig for slaughter to die
08:33at the proper moment all this time. Sure, Harry came back from the dead in the end, but that doesn't
08:38change the fact Dumbledore secretly planned for the death of a kid. Not what you call hero behaviour.
08:43Number 3. Grandpa Joe, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
08:46There are certainly more than a few rather dark and annoying figures present in the magical experience
08:52that is Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Could arguably be the most villainous of the lot can
08:56regularly be found by the side of the film's main protagonist. First popping up on screen as an old bloke
09:02who had
09:02spent years in bed, due to not quite having the strength to stretch out his legs and support his
09:07family. The second his grandson Charlie returned with a golden ticket, something miraculous happens
09:12to Grandpa Joe. Not only does Joe suddenly discover the strength to wiggle out of bed, he actually goes
09:18on to perform a lively dance number, after years of not moving a finger to help his family, and happily
09:23smoking tobacco while everyone else struggles. He also selfishly reacts to the whole golden ticket
09:28reveal, like he was the person who found the damn thing, singing I've got a golden ticket,
09:34when Charlie was clearly the one who discovered the final factory invite, and simply asked Joe to
09:39come along for the ride. Oh and there was also that moment when Joe nearly went and got Charlie
09:43killed within the factory too, directly disobeying Wonka's orders not to consume the fizzy lifting
09:48drinks, and foolishly putting his grandson in serious danger after thinking he was above the rules.
09:54What a role model. 2. Daniel Hillard, Mrs. Doubtfire A father doing everything he can to be a part of
10:00his children's life sounds sweet on paper. However, the more you think about Daniel's actions during
10:05the hit dramedy known as Mrs. Doubtfire, the more you realise that this out-of-work voice actor was
10:11actually a bit of a badden. On top of creepily dressing up and pretending to be a nanny in order
10:15to trespass on his ex-wife's property, something that no doubt will have had quite an effect on his poor
10:21kids once he's revealed as the man underneath the Scottish nanny mask, Daniel also attempts to meddle
10:26with Miranda's relationship with Stu, and almost kills the man by chucking pepper, something he's
10:31allergic to, onto his dish at a restaurant. Karma strikes back after that last act at least,
10:36with Daniel's mask literally slipping after performing the Heimlich manoeuvre, but all of
10:40the freaky damage had already been done. And after all that, Miranda still ultimately forgives him,
10:45and gives the madman joint custody of their children. Would it have been so hard to have just been a
10:50good
10:50dad and earn your way back into their lives that way? Apparently so.
10:54Number 1. Dom Cobb Inception
10:56During the frequently spectacular dive into the world of dreams known as Inception,
11:01extractor Dom Cobb is found risking it all to get back home to his children. And while that may seem
11:06like a pretty noble motivation for this information thief, the truth behind why Dom is forced to keep
11:11running and performing these dangerous jobs is a little more complicated. Early on, it's established
11:17that the projection of Dom's late wife, Maul, keeps threatening to cause chaos within his own
11:22mind and the missions he's a part of. But it's not until later on, after he's agreed to perform
11:27Inception on a target, when Cobb finally confesses to Ariadne that he actually first performed this
11:32act on Maul. He did so on the back of the two experimenting with dreamsharing. Maul simply refused
11:39to return to reality after spending 50 years in this dream state, which was an hour in reality.
11:44So Dom planted an idea in her subconscious that ultimately convinced her to wake up.
11:49However, when she did, Maul still didn't believe she had broken free from her dream.
11:54And it was her attempt to once again wake herself up that eventually resulted in her taking her own
11:59life and dying in reality. So not only did Dom continually and quite selfishly put all of his
12:04team at risk by not informing them about the real Maul truth, and also quite illegally infiltrate
12:10people's minds for a living. He also recklessly planted the idea that ultimately led to the death
12:15of his wife and the mother of his children. But at least he got back home, yay!
12:18END
12:19here.
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