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Treinta y cinco años después, Gary Barlow, Mark Owen y Howard Donald miran atrás en su documental de Netflix Take That. Mónica Ordóñez les entrevista y nos confiesan lo que no hemos visto tras los focos: vértigo, reconciliación, familia… y adelantan: ¡hay nuevo disco en camino!

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00:00Cuando un canción como Back 4 Good se llega a número uno en España,
00:03todavía estamos celebrando eso ahora.
00:05Era siempre música, música, songwriting.
00:08La única cosa en todo de eso que nunca pensé sobre
00:11era la screaming girls.
00:13Todo fue healed entre todos nosotros.
00:16Y en ese momento, no había una real awareness de mental health.
00:20Por ejemplo, cuando Robby left,
00:22no se lo sabía lo que estaba pasando.
00:24Cuando Robb left la banda, se quedó.
00:26Y creo que el resto de nosotros sort de pensé,
00:28oh, I can get off this thing.
00:30It was scary.
00:32And we were very young people.
00:34So yeah, there's one new song in the Netflix,
00:36but there's many more to come.
00:38I wish we could have the circus here in Spain too.
00:41I do. I do too.
00:48Brenda, how are you doing?
00:50Nice to see you, Monica.
00:51We know the jingle, don't we?
00:53Yeah, let's see.
00:54How do you remember that?
00:56We have a long history of number ones together.
01:02And yeah, a lot of moments, great and nice moments.
01:04Yeah, and we came over to see you just a couple of years ago.
01:09And we got to perform on your stage, which was amazing.
01:12Yeah, how do you remember that moment,
01:13the Los Cuarenta Music Awards,
01:14with that golden music award to pay attention to all your whole career,
01:18this 35-year career.
01:20I know. Thank you.
01:20We were very grateful.
01:22Isn't it funny that when we first started to travel,
01:25when the band first started,
01:27Spain was the first country we ever went to.
01:30And we didn't go to the radio station.
01:33We did like a TV show.
01:35I think it was live for about 12 hours, this TV show.
01:38It was a long event.
01:39It took all day.
01:40But anyway, the second or the third time we went,
01:43we actually did our first stop into the radio studios.
01:47And we remember it was surrounded by people as we were getting in there.
01:51It was a great experience.
01:52And it's amazing that you've stuck with us through all of these years.
01:56So thank you to everybody.
01:58There is one thing we loved in this talk series,
02:01that is the footage about the Basico Cuarenta.
02:04Several times, in fact,
02:06what do you remember of that day after being number one
02:09in La Lista de los Cuarenta and a radio station with Back 4 Gods?
02:14Do you know, when you are a band and you started off like we did in,
02:17like the north of England,
02:19playing shows around, you know, your area.
02:23And then you start to branch out and eventually you might get to London
02:27and then maybe you might cross the water
02:29and start to go to a few places outside of that.
02:32I don't think when we started off as a band that we ever...
02:35I've been to Spain on holiday.
02:37I've been to Benidorm when I was younger,
02:40but to be number one in the Spanish charts,
02:43I mean, it's insane really.
02:45So yeah, when a song like Back 4 Good gets to number one in Spain,
02:50we're still celebrating that now, 30 years later, you know.
02:53We got to go on tour last year.
02:55We had a wonderful, wonderful tour in Spain.
02:58We went to places we'd never been to before
03:00and met so many great people.
03:04We had great audiences everywhere.
03:06So it's magical for us.
03:07And I think it's particularly magical when you know that you went on holiday
03:11to a place where your mum and dad, maybe, when you were younger
03:13and then you're going back there to tour.
03:15You know, when I rocked up in Benidorm,
03:17I never thought of, you know, a few years later,
03:20I'll be back there, number one in the charts.
03:22So always grateful.
03:23I've already watched your docu-series, you know, on Netflix,
03:28these three episodes.
03:29And I have to say that I absolutely loved it
03:31because it's very, very personal, honest.
03:35You can see a lot of truth.
03:36And also, I love that you can feel
03:39and you can see the different perspectives.
03:42I mean, everyone's opinion on every issue.
03:45I think that's something that the people who put the,
03:47when Netflix and the team put the show together,
03:50is they wanted to make something that felt like everybody was presented.
03:56So we have to be grateful to them for doing that.
03:59I think there could have been more of me in it, but never mind.
04:04No, it was a really good story.
04:07And it's not easy to tell, obviously,
04:0935 years in three series, in three parts.
04:13You know, one thing for us, which is lovely,
04:15is that I feel like we've finally got something.
04:19If you wanted to point someone who didn't know anything about the band
04:22to a piece of footage, this would be a great place to start.
04:27If you want to learn about our band,
04:29go to Netflix and watch this
04:31because it will tell you the journey we've been on.
04:34And I think, like Mark said, we were all represented equally,
04:37which is always hard because there's five different stories.
04:40But I thought they did a very good job.
04:42Now we have something that will be there forever
04:44that tells the story of our band to this point.
04:47It's a 35 years story.
04:50I mean, it's a very long story together.
04:53It's all your life.
04:55I mean, it's also very interesting that you have shared
04:57this very personal footage that I don't know if,
05:01where did you keep these tapes?
05:03I don't know if after the breakup, being everything so hard,
05:06you completely forgot about them.
05:08You didn't want to know about this material.
05:10And now it's been like a, probably a surprise
05:12to see you back then altogether.
05:14Netflix came around to my house
05:17and down in the basement,
05:19I had quite a lot of boxes full of old VHSs
05:22and Hi8 tapes that had never, ever been seen
05:25because obviously when you're recording,
05:26you just take them out and you're putting them in a box.
05:29And they took them away.
05:30And lo and behold,
05:32when we saw, especially the first episode,
05:35we saw footage that we'd never, ever seen before.
05:39Even I'd never even seen before.
05:40And them tapes belonged to me.
05:42And I gave them all the old diaries as well
05:45from going back to 1989, late 1989,
05:49and all the original gigs we did from the very beginning.
05:53And, you know, it had some of those snippets
05:55in the footage of some of the early gigs.
05:59So, yeah, it was great.
06:00I think they really, like the boys said,
06:02I think they really captured it.
06:03Yeah, they got it in a nutshell.
06:05It was great.
06:05It's so cute, you know, to be able to see you
06:08so little boys, you know, when you were just kids.
06:12Because Mark, for example, you wanted to be a football player.
06:14You were very much into breakdance.
06:16And we can see all that.
06:18Yeah, it's funny when you sit and watch it with your children.
06:22So my boy now, my oldest,
06:25I sat and watched a bit of it with him.
06:29And he was 19.
06:30And so then I sort of thought,
06:32oh my God, I was younger than him when we started it.
06:35Which was kind of a bit crazy, you know,
06:37to think that, you know, life's gone.
06:40Like, look at where we are now
06:41and what we're doing, we've all got families.
06:44And it's funny when you watch it with your own children.
06:47Of the age that you were when you started in the band,
06:49you realize you've been most of your life
06:52part of this band.
06:54What about you, Gary?
06:55Because you can see that you tell that
06:57after school you went straight home
06:59because the only thing you want to do
07:01is to listen to music to your, like, your idols, right?
07:04Elton John, Abba.
07:06So how did you feel, you know,
07:07after the massive success
07:10when you had, like, the Beatles,
07:12all these girls, like, going crazy,
07:15screaming for you?
07:17I started early with music.
07:19It was, I was 10 and 11
07:21when I was starting to do gigs on stage.
07:24And all the time when,
07:26all the years till I joined the band when I was 19,
07:30it was always music, music, songwriting,
07:33playing, performing, learning to sing better,
07:36learning to do harmonies.
07:38The one thing in all of that I'd never thought about
07:41was the screaming girls,
07:43the adulation, the fame, and all the rest of it.
07:46I think as a band,
07:48we sort of worked that out together
07:50because we were all going through it together.
07:52I think we all started in different places.
07:55In that first episode,
07:56you see everybody finding their feet
07:58within life and the band.
08:00But the one thing that was consistent
08:03throughout definitely the first episode
08:05was the fact that we were all dealing with this
08:08in real time.
08:09And it was hard, it was exciting,
08:11it was thrilling,
08:12it was wonderful and incredible
08:15as the footage shows.
08:17But it was a new part of our life
08:18we'd never had before.
08:20It's also very nice how beautiful it begins.
08:23Now that you've mentioned the first episode,
08:25with Robbie and you singing together,
08:27that precise part of the song of Back for Goods,
08:31it's so complete and forever will be.
08:34So it's like a wish for forever reconciliation.
08:38Oh, I think it is now.
08:40I think that sort of healed,
08:44everything was healed between all of us
08:46about 2010, 2011.
08:48And it's been wonderful ever since
08:51because one of the things that I think I realised
08:55through all the times
08:57where we didn't speak to one another
08:58was that you missed being part of each other's success
09:03and also being able to help each other
09:06when things aren't going so well.
09:08And that's a really big thing to have lost
09:10in all those years.
09:11So I think at this point,
09:13we're really determined to make up for that
09:15and be part of each other's successes
09:17and failures from this point on.
09:19And how do you see conflicts with time?
09:22Do you see things that have been very different
09:24if you have listened more to each other?
09:26I'm sure we all have a different opinion,
09:28but I think when you're in a group in the 90s
09:30for six years
09:32and we're all young,
09:34some of us are teenagers starting,
09:36especially with Robbie being very young,
09:3716 years old,
09:39all that we ever lived for was take that then.
09:42None of us had families,
09:44none of us had kids
09:45and that's basically all we had.
09:47Everything moved so fast
09:48and back then,
09:49there wasn't this real awareness of mental health.
09:53For instance, when Robbie left,
09:55we didn't realise what he was going through,
09:57his alcohol, his drugs,
09:59whatever it may be.
10:00I think as you grow older,
10:02you can stand back and look at the situation,
10:06especially when we came back in 2005, 2006.
10:10A couple of us had kids then
10:12and you start to realise what's important in life
10:16and it's basically family that's most important.
10:19Each other, you know,
10:20as four band members,
10:23me, Jason, Gary and Mark
10:25are getting back together,
10:26we all wanted to make sure
10:28everybody was happy with each other,
10:30with their situation,
10:31whereas back then in the 90s,
10:33it wasn't even heard of,
10:34it wasn't even thought of.
10:36So, yeah, we,
10:38over the years and the maturity
10:39and becoming adults
10:40and becoming parents,
10:42you know,
10:42the awareness came along
10:45and, you know,
10:47that's when we started to,
10:48in our heads,
10:49what really did go on
10:51when Robbie left the band,
10:52you know,
10:52and, you know,
10:53so we looked after each other basically.
10:54Well, I think the 90s for all of us,
10:57it felt like a running race
10:59and it felt like you were on this carousel
11:02that was turning so fast,
11:04you couldn't get off,
11:05you were just holding on
11:06and then finally one of us got off,
11:09you know,
11:09when Rob left the band,
11:11he got off
11:12and then I think the rest of us sort of went,
11:14oh,
11:14I can get off this thing,
11:16I am in control,
11:17I do have some kind of control.
11:19So with all that speed
11:21and all that dealing with this new world
11:23that I talked about earlier
11:25of being famous,
11:26it was scary
11:27and we were very young people.
11:29I mean,
11:29I was 25 when the band ended
11:31the first time around,
11:32as old as my son is now
11:34and it's a scary environment
11:37and I think definitely
11:38we could have all helped each other
11:40but we were so young
11:42and the difference
11:43between the 90s version
11:45of Take That
11:45and the latest version
11:47is we were adults
11:49when we came back
11:50and like Howard said,
11:51the gift of perspective
11:52which you just,
11:53that doesn't just get handed to you,
11:55that doesn't,
11:56it's something you earn over time.
11:58So as usual,
11:59of course,
12:00lots of times
12:01we can sit and say,
12:02I wish I'd have done this,
12:03we should have done that
12:04but the story is as it is
12:06and it's the one we have to accept
12:08and all you can do now
12:09is try and make up for it.
12:11And what are your upcoming projects?
12:13Because we listened to a new song
12:14and also in this series.
12:16I don't know if you can tell us
12:17something about your next release.
12:20What can you share with us today?
12:22There it is.
12:22We're very excited.
12:24I mean,
12:24always new music is exciting for us.
12:27Especially,
12:27like you say,
12:28to be a band
12:29who's been around for 35 years
12:30and we're still able
12:32to record new music
12:33and we still have fans
12:34who are interested in our new music
12:36is just brilliant.
12:38So yeah,
12:39we've been in the studio
12:40for about a year,
12:41I think now.
12:42We've been writing away
12:43and we are just starting to record.
12:46So yeah,
12:46there's one new song
12:47in the Netflix
12:48but there's many more to come
12:50and it will all be released
12:51I think in the last quarter
12:52of this year.
12:53So very exciting.
12:55And what can you tell me
12:56about The Circus?
12:56I mean,
12:57is it going to be so spectacular?
12:59Like the last one
13:00with this huge elephant,
13:03acrobat.
13:03What is going to be
13:04this production
13:05like The Circus
13:06in Britain
13:06by the moment?
13:07Yeah,
13:08we only do fantastic.
13:10Take that.
13:11Especially when it comes to concert.
13:12Unfortunately,
13:13it's going to be toured
13:13in the UK
13:14and we're just trying
13:16to keep it
13:16as authentic
13:18and as original
13:20to the one
13:21that we did in 2009.
13:22There's a few little tweaks
13:24and stuff like that
13:25and you know,
13:26there's probably a few additions
13:27of maybe two songs,
13:29maybe You're a Superstar
13:30being there.
13:31But yeah,
13:31it's the thing
13:32that we ride ourselves upon
13:35is doing live.
13:36Like Mark said,
13:37you know,
13:37being in Spain,
13:38doing live gigs there,
13:39it was a real eye-opener
13:40to see that we had
13:41so many amazing
13:42Spanish fans
13:43and you know,
13:44when we're there
13:45in the UK
13:46doing the circus,
13:47it's going to bring back
13:48great memories for us
13:49because we always wanted
13:50to do more
13:50when we did it
13:51back in 2009.
13:52I wish we could have
13:53the circus here
13:54in Spain too.
13:56I do.
13:56I do too.
13:58I went to see you
13:59the last time you came
14:00to Jerez,
14:01you know,
14:01to our festival.
14:02I took my four-year-old
14:04song with me.
14:05It was quite an adventure.
14:07I made him a big fan of you,
14:09of course.
14:11And then we even
14:12have a choreography
14:13with open up,
14:14open up windows,
14:16the fire in the sky,
14:18you know what it's like,
14:20you know.
14:20We made up a choreography
14:22for this song
14:23and he absolutely
14:24loved his music
14:25and I love seeing that,
14:26you know,
14:26these new fans
14:27that are coming
14:27to your music
14:2835 years after
14:29this long
14:30and beautiful story began.
14:32I bet your son
14:33would love the circus
14:34because of the elephants
14:35and all the acrobats
14:37and I mean,
14:38it's quite a spectacle.
14:40We will invite you,
14:41please come,
14:43please come and see us
14:44in London or something.
14:45Yeah,
14:46we'd love to spend
14:47our holidays there in Britain
14:48and you British people,
14:49you come to Spain.
14:50I know.
14:50Maybe Mala
14:51will be a nice place.
14:52The elephant,
14:53we've only got the elephant
14:54for five weeks
14:56and then he's going
14:56on holiday
14:57so he won't travel
14:58anywhere else
14:59but come and see us
15:01in London.
15:02He'll love the show,
15:03I'm sure it'll be worth it.
15:04So very happy
15:05to see you all
15:06and we'll be looking
15:08forward to your new music.
15:09Thank you so much.
15:11Thanks for your time.
15:12Thanks for your time.
15:13Thank you.
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