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01:01It's all you need, it's all you need
01:07I'm sitting in a car
01:12Make them till they're crawling
01:16It's easy if you don't look down
01:22Now, Shaky joins us now. Good morning.
01:25Good morning. Nice to be here.
01:26This album is a real reflection on kind of life.
01:31It goes back quite a way and touches some subjects
01:35that you wouldn't necessarily expect to hear from Shaky Stevens.
01:39Well, you know, people have to change, move on, you see.
01:42And that's what I did.
01:43I had an album out before this one called Eckers of Our Times
01:47about my family, the copper miners.
01:52And when they eventually, you know,
01:56the money people, they take over, don't they?
02:00They did. No money for them at all, you know.
02:04You sound philosophical and people will be fascinated by your own story.
02:08A lot of people may not know, but you grew up in a very, very big family, didn't you?
02:12Absolutely.
02:13Tell us a bit about that.
02:14Well, I was the baby, the last one on the end.
02:17I think it was about 13, 12, 13 of us.
02:2213 children.
02:22Yeah, thank you.
02:24And here you are. Look, this is the family.
02:26So who are we seeing here?
02:28Is this you?
02:28This is obviously you in the front there, is it?
02:30Yeah, there's one missing, Roy.
02:32He's the, you know, he didn't make it for some reason.
02:36And are you sitting next to your mum there, is that?
02:38That is my treasure, mum, which I love a lot.
02:42And one of the songs on the album is about your mum, isn't it?
02:45Indeed, yes.
02:48Yeah, we were very, very, very close.
02:50In the very early days, I wasn't there, you see.
02:54I mean, and as time went on, with all those, you know, the brothers and things like that,
03:03I used to get up in the morning quite early, you know, and started doing the toast for the brothers
03:10before they go off to work and things like that.
03:12You know, it was a great toast, you know, fantastic.
03:15And I didn't mind that.
03:16I wasn't one to sit around, you know, or lay in bed, you know.
03:20I used to be, you know, brain going all the time.
03:24And I know...
03:25My mum is, is, is, I miss her so much.
03:29I bet.
03:30I know a lot of the album as well is looking at where we are now in time and resetting
03:36almost,
03:37I think, is a phrase, particularly when it comes to the climate and just looking around
03:41at the world we're in.
03:44I did the album before this one, Echoes of Our Times, and there's a track on there called
03:53Last Man Alive, and that's about greed as well.
03:55And there's another one on there about greed.
03:57So this, this is not new for me anyway, you know.
04:00Tell us a bit about what the family made of your success.
04:03So when the big hits started piling up, and the record is extraordinary.
04:08Thank you.
04:09When they started piling up, Green Door and all those other songs, well, what did they
04:13all make of it all?
04:14What did they make of it?
04:15They were very, very, very proud.
04:16Of course they were.
04:17You know, and my dad used to carry a photo of it, and he'd say, that's my boy.
04:22He used to just go around saying, that's my boy.
04:25That's my boy, yeah.
04:26But, yeah, I, when I did the West End musical, they all come up to see that.
04:33And there was another gig that my, the family came to, and I announced my mother that was
04:39in the audience.
04:41And, uh, the, she stood up, she really got into it.
04:47She stood up and was doing, doing this.
04:50And what, like a royal way?
04:52Yeah.
04:52And the audience went, you know, a really big roar, you know.
04:56I was very proud.
04:56Can I ask you one thing, Sheik?
04:58Yeah, and I, I think you're, you sound quite philosophical, but you're clearly pragmatic
05:02as well.
05:03Some people were a bit snooty about you for a while, weren't they, your, your music?
05:07Would that be fair to say?
05:08When you say snooty, what do you mean by that?
05:10Well, just kind of, you know, they, they, they sort of didn't take terribly seriously,
05:14or was there a bit of that going on?
05:17No, I guess, you know, there's a lot of people that didn't take me seriously.
05:20It was probably because of the word, the thing is you either like the music or you don't
05:24like the music.
05:25You like jazz, you don't like jazz.
05:26That's the way it is, really.
05:28But I pulled it through, and I just went out there and, you know, did all the great gigs
05:34and things like, sorry, tooth move.
05:37Because you knew, and it's great seeing these, these songs now, because you knew that people
05:41liked them.
05:42No matter what anyone else said, people were buying them.
05:45They loved them.
05:45That's right, yeah.
05:46That's the first, oh, that one, yeah, that's the first album, the first track I did.
05:51Have you still got the Denim?
05:53Have you still got the, the...
05:54I have, but they're, they're, they're, they're...
05:58That denim there, I wore the first time on Top of the Pops with a song called Hot Dog.
06:03And, uh, but, uh, I looked at them, I looked at them the other day.
06:08I mean, they're in a cupboard somewhere, you know.
06:10And they was all, all, uh, broken up and things like that, and ripped you and ripped there.
06:16Oh, so they couldn't be re... you couldn't have used them again?
06:19No, I wouldn't be wearing denims again.
06:21And the thing is, the, uh, the, uh, with the white shoes and things like that.
06:26And, uh, I thought, you know, you've got to, enough's enough.
06:28You know, you, you've got to try and move on.
06:30On a personal note, I think you should go, you know, give the denim another try.
06:34Why not?
06:35Yes, why not?
06:37After all, after all that, I bought a suit for the stage and things like that and stuff.
06:42No, you know, it's, you know.
06:43Um, I heard, you know, your little trademark, um, move with your feet.
06:49Yeah.
06:49You need to go up on your toes.
06:50That was all yours, wasn't it?
06:51Yeah, I looked at my toes, uh, uh, when I looked at my toes, uh, uh, when I, uh, they
06:56need cutting or whatever.
06:57But at the, at the end of the toes, I'd like that.
07:00And that's because I'm doing this.
07:03Oh, so you scrunched them up?
07:04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:05It was actually on the toes.
07:06I had no blocks in there or anything like that.
07:08It was just up like that.
07:09And the, I'm not going to do it now.
07:12No, that's fine.
07:13Uh, it's been lovely having you here this morning.
07:15Oh, I've enjoyed it.
07:16And it's lovely, lovely to talk to you.
07:18Yeah, lovely to see you too.
07:20It is amazing.
07:20It's an incredible life story, number one, isn't it?
07:22And it's played very much through your new music.
07:24So Shake's new album, uh, Reset is what it's called.
07:27Now, today, you can listen to it all on your usual music platforms, of course.
07:31That's it from breakfast today.
07:32We'll be back tomorrow from six.
07:34Now it's time for morning life.
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