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00:00Tell me how it happened.
00:03So we just try things on occasion, and if I let him do it, then he would, at the end, put in more money without even, like...
00:13It was kind of an unspoken thing.
00:15If it happened and I let it happen, I could trade more.
00:18If it didn't happen, then obviously it was the same.
00:22But on a few occasions, I told you that I just didn't know.
00:25So, um, and I let it through, I stayed fast, and I won't, and he still gave me extra money on that one.
00:32But then a couple times that I said no, he talked me into it, and then gave me my money.
00:37He always paid me my money, even if I never, even if I didn't do it, he asked me to do extra.
00:44Okay.
00:45So walk me through this, and I know this is going to be hard for you.
00:49Um, walk me through this here.
00:51You're giving me a massage.
00:54You're naked.
00:55Right?
00:56Uh-huh.
01:00Take it from that.
01:02He'd ask me, and I'm like, most of the time, I read the flowy back, and I was like,
01:09and I can get either of the film.
01:11Thank God!
01:12Thank God!
01:16Um...
01:16Sorry, what's this is?
01:19Oh, yeah.
01:23I was, um...
01:24I was like, well, I don't know, but it's different, but in the beginning, it's different from when I ended,
01:35because of course, towards the end, it was more comfortable.
01:38I just felt for me to make the first thing.
01:39I wanted to wait for him to ask, you know, I needed, you know, like, he didn't have to say any instructions.
01:45When I first started going, I, he'd ask me to get naked.
01:48He'd ask what he could do to me.
01:51Um, and that was like that, for the end, like, I just got naked, and...
02:00Would he, would he perform oral, um, oral sex on you?
02:04Sometimes.
02:04Sometimes.
02:04Okay.
02:06Did you ever perform anything on him?
02:08I'd never, him intentionally, I'd never laid a hand on him, not a body card, nothing, not a hair on my head, and never touched him.
02:16Okay.
02:16Then he did oral on you.
02:18Were you still 16?
02:20Was this close to the beginning?
02:22Yeah, it wasn't, like, at the end, like, all the stuff was in the beginning.
02:27Like, once we broke the barriers of me, like, letting him do stuff, all the major stuff that took place in the beginning.
02:34Um, I never, that was only, like, four or five times, and none of it was, since my birthday, since his last birthday, none of it was after that.
02:49Okay.
02:50Did he ever hurt you?
02:53Sometimes he got violent, yeah.
02:55Masian TV.
02:57Violent, that's on what?
02:58He'd cool my hair a lot harder than should have been, like, okay, I can't understand.
03:04Having sex, you know, like, not that we were having sex, I mean, like, if you're all into it, and you curl hair a little bit, like, my curly hair just, like, a little bit, whatever.
03:13But he would curl it to where it would rip my hair out.
03:16It would rip my hair, and then sometimes he would pick me up and, like, throw me whichever way he wanted me, and then he would just, like, use the fairy or, like, his hand or whatever.
03:29Whatever his hair.
03:30I never had sex done.
03:31But, um...
03:33You're a little girl, I mean, too.
03:34I'm little, so he could pick me up.
03:35You're like, if you pick me up and throw me on the plate, I can't hurt.
03:38Like, it hurts.
03:40Did you ever tell him it hurt you?
03:44No.
03:46I wasn't.
03:47When he was doing these things for you, kissing, touching, hurting his fingers, oil, did he ever hurt you down there?
03:55In your vagina area?
03:56Um...
03:57I don't know.
04:02I'm sure he would go left on occasion, six months, specifically.
04:05Nothing that really stands out.
04:08I mean, there's a nurse that walked out of there barely being able to go off from him being so left, but nothing really...
04:15Nothing specific that he really got by on there.
04:18Like, I can't really recall.
04:20Nothing that you did after...
04:21Nothing that I would be like, oh, my God, this one time he did this.
04:24Like, nothing was that.
04:25Okay, nothing that you'd have to go to a doctor for.
04:27Okay, you know.
04:30Nothing that I went to a doctor for, no.
04:32I mean, I remember getting tore-up.
04:35But there's nothing that...
04:38Like tore-up, you mean...
04:39Yeah, but he would get, like, really rough, and I'd get cut.
04:42Like, I'd get cut with wrists a little bit.
04:45That's what you're talking about.
04:47Okay.
04:49You don't have to answer this.
04:50Okay.
04:51I'm just getting real personal, but...
04:54Were you active before him?
04:59Well, like, have I had that?
05:01Yeah.
05:02Okay.
05:03Um...
05:03But, I mean, I'm not a hoe.
05:08I've had only three steady boyfriends, and those are the only three that I've ever done anything with.
05:13And they were all with me for over a year or eight.
05:16So, it's not like I just go and hook up a party.
05:19This was the most crazy, promiscuous, whatever you want to call it, thing that I've ever done.
05:24And it would be money.
05:26Money.
05:26It would be money and the gift and stuff it.
05:29What was the most you ever made from him?
05:32Masian TV.
05:34Like...
05:34Monetary-wise.
05:38You mentioned you walked out with a G or with $1,000 one time.
05:43I walked out with, yeah, $1,000 one time, but then again, I walked out with a car one time.
05:48Are you talking things of, like...
05:50Like, are you talking about...
05:51Okay, what was the...
05:52It's why it's specifically cash.
05:54Like, I've got, like, thousands of dollars worth of gifts.
05:58Man, the underwear I'm wearing right now, he gave me...
06:01Like, I go over there, and there'd be a bag of a Curry Secret underwear, like, reading for me.
06:05Like, talking, like, $1,500 worth of gifts.
06:09Um...
06:09Got a plane ticket from him once.
06:11I got a car.
06:13I got Christmas bonuses.
06:15I got movie tickets.
06:17Like, he'd buy me movie tickets.
06:18Like, he'd say, hey, have you gone to the movies lately?
06:20I'd be like, I don't know.
06:22No, not really.
06:22Do you want to go?
06:23He'd give me, like, great movie tickets.
06:25I got show tickets.
06:26I went and saw, like, David Copperfield.
06:28I had, like, VIP, like, tickets or something like that.
06:33Um...
06:34Hey, Paul, was that your name or was it his?
06:36It wasn't his.
06:37Like, I didn't really care, though.
06:38He was like, me, do I know?
06:39I was like, you know, why?
06:40You know, I just got the keys to it.
06:42Everything else was his business.
06:43He said, if I ever got pulled over, just to say that it was his car,
06:47and whatever, that's it.
06:53Let's talk about the, um, the time that he forced himself on.
06:59Um, take me through that one, please.
07:06We were really...
07:08I think it was the...
07:10Nadia was in the room.
07:13And, um...
07:14What's your negative?
07:17I don't know, probably.
07:18Like, it was...
07:20I don't remember at the time.
07:22I don't remember at the time.
07:23Um...
07:24Whether or not...
07:24So, she...
07:25It was towards the end of my...
07:26Send her, whatever you want to call it.
07:29So, she was probably either getting dressed or would still make it.
07:32I don't really know.
07:33She was...
07:33I think she was still make it, though.
07:35Um...
07:36Was it normal for her, but it's time to be upstairs with you?
07:39If I went there, if I saw her up there, I would not be surprised.
07:43I wouldn't get surprised when I saw her in the room.
07:46Um...
07:46Sometimes she would just...
07:48Like, she liked me.
07:49Like, she would hang out with me.
07:51And we...
07:52Like, I would go to the house and we'd eat breakfast together.
07:55Or, like...
07:57Hang out by the pool or something.
07:58It's not like...
07:59I just went there and did my thing with her in front of him.
08:03I don't know.
08:03But, um...
08:07Sorry, go ahead.
08:08Go ahead.
08:09So...
08:10Do you want out there?
08:11Getting guests?
08:12Oh, yeah.
08:12Or there?
08:15No, we...
08:16I was...
08:17This was at the end of...
08:18Like, what...
08:20Okay, it was me and him.
08:22Like, Steve was, like, sucking his dick and, like, sucking him and stuff.
08:27But, like, that was while I was, like, maybe...
08:30Kissing her.
08:31No, touching her.
08:33From which way or the other.
08:35And, um...
08:36Towards the end of this...
08:38I remember that...
08:40I had already done it.
08:42Because I remember it being really uncomfortable.
08:44So, I remember specifically that I had already finished.
08:47She...
08:48It was me...
08:50What do you mean by you finished?
08:52She gave me an orgasm.
08:54With his hand.
08:55Okay.
08:55Um...
08:58Francis, I need to show you, like, what I'm talking about.
09:00Like, the position that we were.
09:02It was, like...
09:04The house.
09:06There's things.
09:07There's the, like, little power thing.
09:09Then it clears the massage table.
09:12I was right here.
09:13He was right there.
09:14She was here.
09:15Um...
09:16And I was standing up.
09:19And he just pushed me over the table.
09:21And then he did a thing with me.
09:24Were you facing the table?
09:25Were you...
09:25I was...
09:26I was face down on the table.
09:28Like, face down.
09:29Hands, like...
09:31On my head.
09:33Holding.
09:33I don't...
09:34I don't...
09:34I mean, I wasn't fighting, really.
09:37So, I don't know if he was sitting down to kind of stop me from fighting.
09:41Or what he was doing.
09:42I mean, he's just a really weird...
09:44He's in his really weird stuff.
09:46Like...
09:47I was just standing over.
09:49And my face was on the table.
09:50I was face down on the table.
09:52And then he bit his thing.
09:53Oh.
09:54So, anyway.
09:55It was right here.
09:55And I'm pretty sure she was naked.
09:56And the couch was, like, right behind.
09:58But, um...
09:59That's how it happened.
10:00How long was it?
10:01How long did I take?
10:02He was only...
10:04In me for, like...
10:08A minute or so.
10:10I don't even know if he could stay that long.
10:11Um...
10:12He put it in.
10:14Did a couple pumps or whatever the fuck you want to call it.
10:19And...
10:19I was like, what are you doing?
10:22I go, what are you doing?
10:23He's like, yeah, I just wanted to see this.
10:28For now, I got...
10:30Did he ejaculate in time?
10:32No.
10:33Not in me, not on me.
10:34I don't remember any time.
10:36I don't remember specifically that time.
10:40Um...
10:41Whether or not he finished from having sex with me or whatever you want to call it.
10:47Okay.
10:47Marcian TV.
10:56I'm going to...
10:56You call...
10:57That was in the middle of the three-year...
11:01Not so much towards the end, but definitely once I would come to the man with working there,
11:07once I, like, was going there, I...
11:08Yeah.
11:09That was...
11:10It had to be towards the middle.
11:11So, towards the end, I only worked very flat.
11:13I bleeped out, like, maybe once or twice a month, not even, um, in the middle.
11:18I was working the most.
11:19I'd work every day that he lives in the country.
11:21Every single day.
11:22Okay.
11:23From that moment on, that's when the car came in?
11:27So, that's the car came in?
11:28I told him that my parents kicked me out.
11:33Um, well, oh, okay, this is how it works.
11:36Like, I'm sorry.
11:36I'm remembering more and more as I talked to you.
11:38So, I worked for him, and then I, I think after, like, when we started getting, like,
11:46to, like, any, like, once he started going further and further, um, I stopped working
11:51for him for a little while, like, he left a message on my cell phone.
11:56My mom took my cell phone away, and she checked my message, and he said, like, she wants to
12:01know if you can come by and bring your phone.
12:02And my mom goes, what the fuck are you doing?
12:04Like, are you a cop?
12:06And I was like, no, Mom, I'm just a secretary, and, you know, he has a girlfriend, um, doesn't
12:13have any friends, and, like, she wanted me to bring over to people to hang out, you
12:16know, and my mom was like, okay, I don't know, she's in denial, obviously, she, I think
12:21she knows, she's down in the heart.
12:23But, um, after my mom heard that message to me, me phoned him, she really called, um,
12:31and tell her right in front of, my mom, my mom made me tell right in front of her that
12:35I couldn't work there anymore, like, I couldn't go there anymore.
12:39And then a few months went by, uh, no, like, I guess you could say, like, a month or two.
12:44I don't want to say a couple, like, a few months, because it wasn't that long.
12:47But it was, like, a month or two.
12:49And then I called him, and, um, I told him that my parents kicked me out, and so they
12:54weren't, they weren't going to interfere with anything.
12:57And then I continued to work towards the end.
13:01I stopped working for about, oh, six weeks, um, because my boyfriend, the kid that I'm
13:09still with now, um, he, it's, like, told him to know that I did this with somebody.
13:17Because he, he cares a lot about me and stuff.
13:19And, um, I stopped working, but then I lied to, I lied a couple times, and I was, but
13:27then Joel found out, and that's when, like, he broke up with me, and then once he broke
13:35up with me, that was when I needed to really snap me into reality and cry.
13:39But there was, like, a few, like, a, I'd say three months, three and a half months, like,
13:44during that time.
13:44This year?
13:46Well, this year was only, like,
13:49maybe six weeks, but I didn't work since the new year, since the beginning of this
13:53new year, from January to, like, April, in between then, was probably six weeks where
14:03I didn't work.
14:05Um, and then, I don't remember when my other hiatus came, like, I don't really remember,
14:10but that was towards, like, the beginning.
14:11What did you do with all the money that you made?
14:22Do I have to tell you?
14:23Because I don't think it's any of you there.
14:25Okay, you don't have to.
14:26I'm sorry.
14:27I'm not, like, involved in drugs or anything like that, but I really just don't want to
14:31tell you.
14:31Okay.
14:32Because I don't have anything to sell for any of it, but I spent it all.
14:35I spent it all.
14:36What's up?
14:37I get paid, I spent my money, too.
14:40It happens, right?
14:42Yeah.
14:43As a matter of fact, I just told you, on the new year, I was in New York on his plane.
14:48So, yeah.
14:49Were you there on his plane?
14:51No, not on his plane.
14:52He was using his plane.
14:53I think he had to do something.
14:54He has on the island in the Caribbean.
14:56He died on the island.
14:57I'm sorry.
14:58But, um, I think he was flying to his island and he had some work to do.
15:01He was going to, originally, um, find me in his debt, but something happened with work,
15:06and it just worked out better.
15:08So, he paid for my ticket.
15:10And then, because he was supposed to be in New York when I went there, I was supposed
15:14to stay at his home, but my wife's deputy had to use his plane to go somewhere else, unexpectedly.
15:19So, I stayed with my boyfriend's family.
15:22I was up there.
15:23So, while I was up there, he bought me, like, $400, not one receipt, to play out of the opera.
15:28So, like, he, he said it was all mine.
15:31He gave me spending money, paid for my plane ticket, he paid for everything, everything.
15:38Okay.
15:42Have you ever been in this plane?
15:45No, I've seen it, though.
15:46I've been to the airport.
15:47I've seen it.
15:48I have a J.E.
15:50Julia Echo.
15:51Um, sorry, that's, like, I just remember, that's what he told me, it meant, it's a black
15:57plane, there's a black one, and then there's, like, I don't know what it looks like.
16:00I saw that, the other one's from afar.
16:02There's a black plane, and then another plane.
16:06Okay.
16:09Have you tried to contact you recently, or?
16:14Yeah, I could call him today, and be like, I need.
16:16No, but I'm talking recently, like, I was in the past couple weeks, from the beginning.
16:20Yeah.
16:21Yeah.
16:22Definitely.
16:23Um, but only, only through email, and my responses have been, I haven't responded, um, recently,
16:29since I've been contacted before, but, um, the last two contacts I had with him was before
16:39I moved here, um, which, I moved here on August 1st.
16:42One time before I moved here, I told him, or I wrote in an email that somebody mysteriously,
16:48here's what's up?
16:49Oh.
16:49I told him that somebody mysteriously called my house and told my parents, excuse me,
16:54and told my parents, um, what I did with him, and I just was, like, I made it seem like
17:00somebody called and added me out for my mom and dad, and I was like, I can't, you know,
17:04work for you as of right now, um, blah, blah, blah, but at that point, I mean, I don't,
17:08I didn't want to work for him, I just didn't want to burn my brain so he could catch my dress.
17:11Um, so I just called him, and I got ratted out, and then he answered, well, actually,
17:19it's his assistant answered, but it's really, it's him.
17:21If you're talking to his assistant, you're talking to him.
17:26Not the same people.
17:27No.
17:28It was, um, some other chick, she's, like, his girlfriend or whatever you want to call
17:32it, and it was one of his girlfriends also, I, I know her, and then, and Sarah, she's,
17:40like, his main assistant, like, his official assistant, who really does his assistant work.
17:44So I was looking at him.
17:45I was looking at him and stuff like that.
17:46He has other girls, and he's called assistants, but they just get off.
17:49But, um, I don't know, I'm, I'm sorry, I really go off on a tangent, and I completely
17:57forget what the original thing was.
17:58Um, let me talk about if you ever flew on the plane, or as you recently talked about.
18:06Oh, I'm sorry, I was talking about the email.
18:09I didn't want to do that, I apologize.
18:10Um, um, he answered me with, that's really unfortunate, blah, blah, blah, or if you need
18:19any help with school, any costs, tuition, books, anything like that, just let me know.
18:25Um, so, I wrote back, and I just asked, um, I said, what suggestions do you have the classes
18:32to take, um, and he, you know, from him, wrote, um, trying to go states and invade the
18:41law, and I remember, he wrote those, and, um, he, again, reminded me that if I wanted
18:50anything, I mean, if I needed any financial help or anything like that, that he would set
18:55it up, he would help me out their problem.
18:57And I have a, I have a contract that I did with them then, and that was probably, six
19:05weeks ago, I don't really remember, but it was after I moved here.
19:10Not after I, to get there.
19:12You haven't had any phone conversations with them, and you saw the same cell phone number
19:16that, uh...
19:16I deleted all of them this one time ago.
19:18No, that means you...
19:19Oh, yeah.
19:20Yeah, I still have the same number.
19:21Like, if she wanted to call me, she could call me.
19:23Um, I forgot that, um, still works for him.
19:35She's been really deep, and, like, I really, like, I'm not telling you guys what to do,
19:40but if you could contact her, that attitude is not talking to him, like, something, something...
19:46Why is she un deep?
19:47What do you mean?
19:47She, like, she had sex with him.
19:49That's not what, that's not what it was supposed to be.
19:53It was supposed to be giving him a size, naked, not, not having sex with him.
19:57How do you think how she started?
20:00She said they came.
20:01Yeah, she's, like, a year older than me, and she started recently, within the past, like,
20:07earlier than me, or I don't remember.
20:09Is there drugs ever involved?
20:11No, he's very, he's very, um, very healthy, very fit.
20:16He does every day on the beach, he does yoga, all that stuff, he has a gym in his house,
20:21um, never has drank, he's never, um, taken a drink of alcohol, ever, not once in his life.
20:27Basically, it's there, I don't really know.
20:29And he's never tried a knee job, never smoked a cigarette, never nothing.
20:32I love pornography.
20:34I ain't like that.
20:39What do you, what type of pornography?
20:41Any type.
20:42Any type?
20:43Specifically children, young women.
20:45I don't know if you can, he's kids, that was naked pictures of him, it's like the real
20:50photographic, he cooked, not, he was, he was a kid with me.
20:54Naked.
20:55That was, you were 16.
20:56Yeah, like how, okay, I have no clothes on.
21:00You were just like, you know what he said?
21:01Because, I don't, I don't even know what he said.
21:05I don't want to say something, because it might be wrong, but, um, he just, I guess asked me
21:10to take pictures, and that's how it went, and I said, was it just like, okay, just like
21:15a fun, or were you doing stuff?
21:17I was just like, it was me standing in front of a big white marble bathtub, and the, in
21:23his, in the, and she has his own bathroom, and then the girl that sleep over, he has a
21:29second bathroom for guests, or whatever the hell he wants to call him, um, and it was
21:34in the guest bathroom, in his master suite, and it, it wasn't like I was, you know, writing
21:39my legs or anything for the camera, I was like, I was standing up, I think I was standing
21:44up, and I just like, it was me kind of like, looking over my shoulder, kind of smiling, and
21:48that was that.
21:49And now he has that up on his wall or something?
21:51No, he's that other, he's, he has other, no, I look like I'm playing famous, like, um,
22:02he, um, you go in his bathroom, I mean, I don't know, like, he has naked photos of other
22:09teenage girls, like, around stuff, one thing that really bothered me, though, he has a picture
22:14of his goddaughter, like, with no, like, panties on, and it always throws me out, like, it's
22:22a picture of her, like, she's mooning him, and I don't know if you could, I wouldn't put
22:27a picture like that in my house, honestly, like, that, that has a little, raises a few
22:32questions, like, it can, it's questionable if it can be considered pornography, child pornography,
22:38pornography, but I wouldn't put a picture of a little girl with her skirt pulled up on
22:42my wall, like, no.
22:45You know, if he ever videotaped any of these from?
22:51No, not with me there, I was just thinking, I don't remember anything like that.
22:55If he has videotaped with me, I'm, um, he might, he might have videotaped, he's got
23:01phones out, he could ruin my life if he wanted to.
23:08That's not that you're aware of.
23:10Not that I'm aware of, no.
23:18Do you want her phone number?
23:22Yeah, I got it, I, I know it, wait, wait, no, I don't, I want to use her, it's the right
23:26one.
23:27I really, like, I really care about her, and I didn't even take her to this, I mentioned
23:33it, and she goes, oh, yeah, I already heard about it from somebody else, like, I wasn't
23:37mentioning it, like, do you want to do it?
23:39I was mentioning it, like, oh, I have to go, she was my friend, she knew what I did,
23:43I was like, oh, I gotta go to Jeffrey's today, she knew what that meant, and she goes, oh,
23:47would you mind if I went there?
23:48And I was like, whatever, how did, like, why do you want to do it?
23:52She's like, oh, I was talking to somebody, figured I'd do it.
23:55Her number is...
24:07So, there's a picture of you in the house, of when you were 16.
24:11Oh, 17.
24:12Or 17.
24:1317.
24:14Definitely not.
24:15No, not, there wasn't much activity between us, since I turned 18.
24:19I mean, I remember, just about everything, like, I remember down to the, like, what happened
24:25since the major, like, nothing major, nothing, like, heavy happened.
24:29My, I mean, my heavy, you mean...
24:34Well, I mean, like, he laid off with, like, going down on me and stuff like that.
24:40When I went there...
24:41Hey, Dad?
24:49Daddy, I'm still at work.
24:51I gotta call you when I get home, okay?
24:54Alright.
24:55Okay, bye-bye.
24:56Um, sorry, where was I?
25:01After the New Year.
25:03Oh, yeah, after the New Year.
25:04After the New Year.
25:05Not that he wanted it, but, like, he just didn't.
25:07Like, I didn't get...
25:09Like, nothing significant happened with...
25:12He didn't...
25:14It was just, like, it wasn't fascinating.
25:17Like, really mild.
25:18Did he know you turned 18 at that point?
25:21He was bumping for Jerry.
25:23When you turned 18?
25:24Well, there's no doubt in your mind.
25:25He bought...
25:26Oh, 100%.
25:27My Christmas...
25:28I mean, not my Christmas...
25:29My birthday gift for being 18 was a plane ticket to New York City.
25:33Like, I left at 4.30 in the morning on my 18th birthday to go to New York to be with him.
25:41And, I mean, he didn't tell me...
25:44I didn't know.
25:45He had a chauffeur pick me up from the airport in a bulletproof glass Mercedes.
25:51I remember that specifically.
25:52I got pictures of that, too.
25:54If y'all want some pictures.
25:56But, um...
25:58Which, my fault.
25:59Yeah.
25:59I didn't know that he wasn't gonna be there until after the chauffeur picked me up and said,
26:03Jeffrey's on the phone for you.
26:05And he handed me a phone.
26:06And then, I was like, Jeffrey just was like,
26:07I'm not gonna be able to be there, but it's got all this stuff up for you.
26:10You're gonna have a great time.
26:11Like, you know.
26:12And I just...
26:14That was that.
26:15I got somebody to stay with.
26:17Um...
26:17Is he ever into the S&M kind of thing?
26:21I don't know.
26:22Is that his, like...
26:23Are you talking about, like, whips and pains and stuff?
26:25It's a guy, I'll see.
26:30I don't know what you'd call a strap on.
26:32Like, I don't know what you'd call that.
26:35Um, he never, like...
26:39All these toys you mentioned, did he penetrate you with these?
26:42He specifically got the strap on.
26:47But these other toys?
26:48He himself penetrated me with these items.
26:51And you were done again before you were 18?
26:54He's done the thing with his strap on.
27:02He penetrated me.
27:03Yeah, he's done that with his stuff, too.
27:06He's done that on me.
27:08Like, he's asked me to go down on her,
27:11and when I say no, he passes $200 in front of me.
27:14He says, do it for five minutes.
27:15And he gets there, it's fine.
27:17Do it for five minutes?
27:19That's disgusting what he did for money.
27:23That was your...
27:24Once again, you're way before you're 18.
27:27You're almost due.
27:28Yeah, yeah.
27:29How many times did you say that that happened?
27:32And him.
27:33And him?
27:37It could be as little as, like...
27:41Five times, or as much as, like...
27:43I don't know, honey.
27:44I don't know.
27:45It's...
27:45It's on the...
27:46Hmm.
27:50Hello?
27:54Hey, honey.
27:54Are you at work?
27:58I'm talking for some people right now.
28:00Um, yeah.
28:02So, I...
28:03I don't know.
28:04Do you know...
28:05Do you think we're going to be here for, like, another hour?
28:07Yeah.
28:07Or whatever?
28:09No?
28:09We're going to be done pretty soon?
28:11Okay, we'll be...
28:12He says we're going to be done pretty soon.
28:14So, um...
28:15I don't know.
28:16Would you just leave at home for me?
28:17Because I'm not having a great day.
28:21Okay, I love you.
28:23Bye.
28:25Is your boyfriend?
28:26Hey, so I didn't know.
28:27Did you mention...
28:29You didn't tell him you were talking to us?
28:30I didn't...
28:30I didn't tell him that you guys were investigating, like,
28:32Jeffrey.
28:33Oh, God, no.
28:34Okay.
28:34I said I had to talk to some people about these things, like...
28:37And that was that.
28:38Okay, no problem.
28:41Okay.
28:42Bye.
28:45Matian TV.
28:51Yeah, man.
28:52You said you had a photograph.
28:53What kind of...
28:53It's just for the New York trip?
28:55Do you have any photographs from inside the house?
28:57Do you have anything like that?
29:02I'm just trying to think.
29:03Yeah, no problem.
29:04Um...
29:05Matian TV.
29:08It is a different...
29:09I don't...
29:15I don't think I have any photographs.
29:17I mean, I think...
29:18I'm an MIT.
29:19I could look at my house.
29:21Um...
29:22But...
29:23I kind of figured he didn't...
29:26He can photograph his house either, so...
29:28I really don't think I did that.
29:30I got...
29:31I mean, I just got pictures of, like, his car and...
29:34Um...
29:34Like, his chauffeur and stuff.
29:36Like, that's it.
29:37Is there anyone else that you...
29:42We're involved...
29:43Interacted...
29:43In the house?
29:44Matian TV.
29:49Did I?
29:50Yeah.
29:50It was just...
29:52You didn't have anyone else.
29:56It was...
29:58And now...
29:59Who is...
30:01I mean, like, if you tell me your last name, I could probably tell you who she is.
30:21What?
30:31I'm gonna ask him a person, but just walk back again.
30:40It's all.
30:41Matian TV.
30:54No.
31:00Matian TV.
31:01Who did you say that is?
31:03That's Adriana.
31:04That's Adriana, right?
31:09Her name?
31:10No.
31:11Okay.
31:12Her name is...
31:13Okay.
31:17Is that the girl that was saved?
31:19No.
31:20I was under the impression that that...
31:22She told me that she came from the hospital, and she was, like, 15 with Jeffrey.
31:27But, like, I don't understand what the hell is going on.
31:31Do you know that girl?
31:38I don't know.
31:40I don't know.
31:41She looks like every other girl.
31:42Did you show her the picture of the one girl, or no?
31:52I did.
31:54But that's not the same person she's now?
31:57That's not the same person.
31:58The last time you spoke to her on the phone was, what?
32:03The poop still?
32:03I don't know.
32:04I don't know.
32:04I don't know.
32:04I don't know.
32:04I don't know.
32:04I don't know.
32:04And they'll leave you any messages.
32:09I don't know.
32:09What about that?
32:10Do you have anything?
32:10No.
32:12I think I even deleted the email.
32:15If my boyfriend found those emails, it's stupid.
32:17I get kicked out of the house.
32:19Like, I'm pretty sure they're on.
32:20I deleted them.
32:22Remember his screen name?
32:23Or his and whatever.
32:28Yeah.
32:29What is that?
32:29I don't know who.
32:30I have no idea.
32:31I didn't bother to ask.
32:32It was out of my business.
32:36Maybe that's who I'll save you.
32:38Okay.
32:40Well, I don't have anything further.
32:43You'd like to add anything else in the statement?
32:47No.
32:47What do you want to see happen, Jeff?
32:50I don't think anything's going to happen to him.
32:52No, that's not what I asked you.
32:54What do you think should happen to Jeff?
32:58So what did he do to you?
33:01He.
33:03I don't even care if he goes to jail.
33:07I just don't want this to happen to anybody else.
33:10Whatever that means to you guys.
33:12That's what we're trying to stop here.
33:13Yeah, that means a lot.
33:16Okay.
33:17I'm going to go ahead and conclude this, baby.
33:18The time on my watch is 5.40 p.m.
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