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अमेरिकी टैरिफ को भारतीय शेयर बाजार के न चलने का एक बड़ा कारण माना जा रहा था। पर जाने-माने बाजार विशेषज्ञ और जीक्वांट इन्वेस्टेक के संस्थापक शंकर शर्मा का कहना है कि टैरिफ घटने के बाद भी भारतीय बाजार में कोई उछाल नहीं आने वाली ह। उनका कहना है कि भारतीय बाजार से अगले कुछ वर्षों तक कोई खास रिटर्न नहीं मिलेगा, बल्कि बाजार के गिरने की भी आशंका है। प्रस्तुत है शंकर शर्मा के साथ निवेश मंथन के संपादक राजीव रंजन झा की यह बातचीत।

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00:00दो कि यह नमस्कार नहुराजीब और मेरे साथ जूळाआ शेनकर शरमा जो संस्थापक हैं
00:08बाद बाद से तक बाद हुए दो अगांे ह erosion फिर्म से पहले आपकी एक थीम बिलकुल सही बैटी और
00:25एक थीम thế
00:26पर भी at पूछना है कि आगे क्या रहेगा उसमें लेकिन
00:30We are talking about the budget and the Trump Tariff.
00:35The two things are the same.
00:37The Trump Tariff is the same.
00:41The Trump Tariff is the same.
00:42The Trump Tariff is the same.
00:44But in the past, the 11th century, you said Trump's what is going on.
00:51We will also explain the same.
00:53The first is the budget.
00:55The budget is the biggest thing.
01:04We will also talk about the people in the U.S.
01:09This is something that they are now saying.
01:11But we would say it was just a lot.
01:15We were saying that all the bills were all right.
01:17And we can comment on social media,
01:21Our intent is going to be sent by LAUGHTER.
01:28foreign
01:31foreign
01:32foreign
01:57I have been a trader for a very long time.
02:00I don't trade now.
02:01I don't do it, but in 2019, I was very active in trading.
02:05After that, I saw that my age is now in mid-40s and I don't have the risk-taking capacity
02:15that I was in the earlier days.
02:19So, I got it.
02:21So, it's not that I'm against trading.
02:26It doesn't need anyone to do it.
02:38It doesn't need anyone to do it.
02:57I don't know.
03:10I don't know.
03:14I don't know.
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07:06I don't know.
07:11I don't know.
07:13I don't know.
07:16I don't know.
07:18I don't know.
07:20I don't know.
07:24I don't know.
07:24It doesn't matter if it's few weeks that stays up.
07:26They leave and go against the island.
07:29What important is it?
07:30Gates all along.
07:31What?
07:32Which plant and machinery are being done元isch
07:35To whom?
07:35Which make us made money?
07:36Whose move are made.
07:37What?
07:38Willkgreed
07:41Will gain gain.
07:44Will, riches.
07:47We really need a long-term capital.
07:51We need bonefidelity badges.
07:53the California retirement fund, pension funds, we need capital. We don't need capital.
08:02We don't need capital. You must leave India. Let me finish.
08:07Let me finish. This is India's very big risk. If you put 500 million or 1 billion,
08:16if you put 15 billion, 25 billion, it's such a big loss of forex in India,
08:22it's not just our capital account. It's a big strain.
08:28The balance of payments is a big strain.
08:30It's such a big loss of capital.
08:34The final point is tax-free.
08:38There are no income tax capital gains.
08:40It's a big loss of capital gains.
08:44What do you have to do with high-frequency traders?
08:50I have no doubt about it.
08:54But I just wanted to know that
08:56whether it's really an investment,
08:58or not?
09:00I don't know why it's a big loss.
09:05I don't know why it's a big issue.
09:07I would consider this as a big loss for the union.
09:10And for the future,
09:11I should have the relationship with the bank in the future.
09:19it's important.
09:20The Pudentials will be a benefit.
09:24Of course,
09:24derived equity market
09:27हमने देखा कि अब यह जो derived है
09:30जो derivative है वो equity market के
09:32कई गुणा बन गया
09:35तो इसका
09:36कोई logic नहीं है
09:38अब tail is now wagging the dog
09:40the tail has become bigger than the dog
09:42we cannot allow this to happen
09:44so इस tail को एक tail
09:46की ही level पे लाना पड़ेगा
09:48इसको dog के ऊपर हावी हो जाए
09:50जैसे रहा हुआ था यह गलत है
09:54हम budget की बात कर रहे थे तो
09:56budget में इसके अलावा और आपको
09:58क्या अच्छा लगा क्या बुरा लगा
10:01मतलब steady budget था साब
10:03इसके लिए आप कोई
10:04अच्छा बुरे की बात नहीं है
10:06capex को उन्होंने बढ़ाया है
10:08nominal GDP growth को 10%
10:10रखा है
10:12इस सब चीज़े मोटा मोटी expected
10:14थी अब सवाल है कि
10:15nominal GDP growth 10% से भारत को
10:18वो growth मिलेगा
10:20जो हमें चाहिए
10:22सवाल वो है
10:23and वो मुझे लगता नहीं कि
10:2610 का 15% हो सकता है nominal GDP growth
10:29तो ultimately
10:30हमारे stock market earnings
10:31सारी चीज़े nominal पे चलती है
10:33nominal इतना लो है 8-9%
10:35फिलाल और target है 10%
10:37उससे कोई खास बहुत बड़ा
10:39effect corporate earnings में नहीं आने वाला है
10:41तो उस sense में budget एक study
10:43study यह था
10:45उसमें कोई अगर लोग यह expect कर रहे थे
10:47उमीद कर रहे थे
10:49आशा कर रहे थे कि
10:51capital gains tax कर जाएंगे
10:53यह हो जाएंगे
10:54मैंने शायद आपके पिछली बारी show में भी
10:57बात की थी यह कई और कितने वह याद नहीं के
10:59Indian budget अब इतना stock market के तरफ
11:03exposed है in terms of stock market related taxation
11:07चाहे वो long term capital gains हो, short term capital gains हो,
11:10STT हो, dividend tax हो
11:12कि अब वो मेरे ख्याल से अब इतना बड़ा part हो गया कि उसमें आपको रियायत और कटौकी की उमीद
11:18नहीं करनी चाहिए
11:19अब आप कहेंगे कि साहब वो तो एक जुआ है एक साल आएगा एक साल नहीं आएगा बिल्कुल सही बात
11:25है
11:25यह जुआ है और कोई government की exchequer अगर stock market को पर चल रही हो तो मैं as it
11:31is
11:31जी मुझे वो वो चीज बहुत खराब लगती है और मैंने यह लास्ट ये बात कहीं थी बजट के जस्ट
11:35बात इतने बी इंटर्व्यूस हुए थे
11:37कि stock marketification of जो national fiscal बनाया गया है वो long term बहुत ही एक let's say skewness हो
11:44गया
11:45for stock market and मैं उस चीज के खिलाब तो अगर लोग यह उमीद कर रहे दे कि उसके चलते
11:51अब यह कम हो जाएगा tax rate capital
11:53gains पे तो वो wishful thinking थी होना ही नहीं है तो वो अगर कम होगा तो fiscal deficit बढ़
11:59जाएगा and government बहुत इस
12:01पर है कि fiscal deficit नहीं बढ़ना चाहिए तो एक steady budget था market को फिलाल frankly मुझे लगता है
12:08कि काफी बड़ा
12:08steroid shot चाहिए इस budget में कम से कब वो steroid shot नहीं लेकिन क्या वो steroid shot क्या Trump
12:18tariff के घटने के
12:20चलते मिलेगा या नहीं मिल रहा है कौन सा tariff घटा है राजीव मुझे बताइए शायद मैं ज्यादा न्यूस देखता
12:27नहीं हो टारिफ कुल घटे है क्या पचास था अठारा हो गया
12:34पहले क्या था उसके पहले जिरो पॉइंट लगवाग तीन प्रतिशत के आसपास था तो इसे साथ तो मतलब मेरी बुखार
12:49थी पहले
12:4997-98 वो बढ़के हो गई 110 और अब घटके हो गया 104 तो अब स्वस्थ हो गया क्या
13:01लेकिन ये ट्रम टारिफ का बुखार सारी दुनिया पर है ना मतलब पहले बाकी लोग भी ऐसे ही थे अब
13:07जितना टारिफ हमारे उपर है उससे कम बहुत शायद ही दो-चार उनके बहुत घनेश्ट जो है उनके उपर है
13:14यूके बगेर है
13:17विलकुल सही बात है तो पहले बात है कि ऐसा कोई कम नहीं हुआ है पिछले चारे से 6 गुना
13:23ज्यादा है नंबर वन पॉइंट बहुत इंपॉर्टेंट पॉइंट है निर्याद करतें यूएस को वह बहुत की बेसिक बूल्ट होते हैं
13:32फार्मसूटिकल को आप शोड़ दे
13:44सब चीज़ें बेचते हैं जो कि कोई और देश बड़े असानी से और सस्ते में दे सकता है यूसी ऐसा
13:51कोई हमारे पास टेक्निलोजिकल एज नहीं है कि हम वह सीज़े एक्सपोर्ट कर रहे हैं जैसे चाइना के ऊपर सारी
13:59चीज़ें टल गई है होल्ड कर रखी गई है हमार
14:08लार्जेस ट्रेट सर्प्लस है अगेंस्ट अमेरिका सारे देशों में से करेक्ट 40-45 बिलियन डॉलर साल का किसी के अनुमान
14:19में आप अपनी अनुमान को देते मेरे को आपको क्या लगता है ये ट्रेट सर्प्लस यही फिगर रहेगा या घटेगा
14:24या बढ़ेगा या बढ�
14:38ले लेंगे वहां से या तो यह एक तरह से रिप्लेस्मेंट होगा क्या जीज़ आदि यह तेल की ही बात
14:47है अगर तेल हमें अमेरिका से सस्ता मिलता है और हम वहां से ले लेंगे हैं
14:55foreign
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16:06You should buy an import basis because of this commitment that you have to buy the gold from the oil.
16:13That commitment is intended to replace my opinion.
16:19That is intended.
16:20I am saying that you are going to export and do something without a small amount of oil.
16:26What does America do to get the oil from 2 years later?
16:29You are supposed to have a hundred billion years to buy and have a hundred billion.
16:34That's something that you don't like, don't.
16:39America is going to evaluate us like a teacher evaluating student.
16:47If you have said intent and that you have taken the intent and that you have basically
16:52any input from it, you will not be able to evaluate us like a teacher evaluating student.
17:04we have to be practical reality is that
17:09we have to be practical reality is that
17:14we have to be practical reality is that
17:29we have to be practical reality is that
17:36meaningless
17:37in many years
17:43the export growth of america is 57% which is more or less the depreciation of the rupee
17:53so suddenly what happens is that your export will be 20-25% grow
17:59because in tariffs we have to say that
18:02we have to be on parity in other countries
18:04we have to be on parity
18:05we have to be on parity
18:07we have to be on parity
18:18foreign
18:54I don't know I don't know
19:00I don't know
19:12reverse not going in 2020, so it means what is this?
19:15So, it's very fast. Where do you talk about slowness?
19:18I'm going to ask 8 percent, I'm not happy yet, but you are not?
19:22Yes.
19:25So, I want to understand slowness.
19:29Why do you want me to leave?
19:31I'm saying this.
19:33You don't want me to say that.
19:35You don't want to say that.
19:36What is this?
19:38I want to say that.
19:50foreign
19:52foreign
19:54foreign
19:57is
19:59okay
19:59so
19:59I
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21:51I don't know if you want to keep the stock market or keep the people happy.
21:57I don't know if I don't want to keep the stock market.
21:59I don't know if I don't want to keep the stock market.
22:04They will figure out some method, but it's a dilemma.
22:07What does it mean to me?
22:12What does it mean to me?
22:14It means that if you want to keep the stock market,
22:18I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
22:28I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
22:50I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
22:54I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
23:07I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
23:47I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
24:06I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
24:26I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
24:39I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
24:47I don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
25:06We don't know if you want to keep the stock market.
25:20foreign
25:23foreign
25:24foreign
25:24foreign
25:25and all the old children and
25:27chewing gum and mobile phone
25:28are doing this kind of
25:29loan and giving people to this kind of
25:33sex appeal. There is no sex appeal in today's world.
25:35Today's world needs tech.
25:36Today's world needs something new.
25:38These are old horses.
25:39They were good horses.
25:40We had a lot of them.
25:42But now we have to put these horses
25:44in a stable time as investors.
25:47And these horses
25:48will not be able to win in the next Derby.
25:51And that's why we are here.
25:53India by the way
25:55India is just India specific.
25:59The last year, the last year,
26:03the last year, the last year,
26:04the global bear market.
26:05This is only our bear market.
26:08And the second one, US.
26:09The other global markets,
26:12tremendous bull market.
26:1450 percent, 70 percent South Korea.
26:17That means every week.
26:18Last month South Korea,
26:1926 percent.
26:2121 months in Brazil,
26:2370 percent of the 17 in one month.
26:26Now, we have our television channels,
26:29we have not heard of this.
26:30We have our papers.
26:31We have not heard of this.
26:33We have not heard of this.
26:47But we have global investor.
26:56market market.
26:56There are no index.
26:58But index people are very low.
27:01They are largely,
27:01they are going to go to average.
27:04So, there is a global market
27:0530 percent of the last year.
27:07India, average was down 30 percent.
27:10On the average.
27:11So, minus 60 percent of bear market.
27:13That is the most important point to see.
27:14Now, that will happen to be minus 50 percent of India.
27:17But globally, we are still lagging substantially.
27:21That is the main important point to see.
27:23And our currency is the weakest currency.
27:26I have read an article two weeks ago.
27:29It is an outlier currency.
27:32Even the fall-to-currency, Brazilian, Real,
27:35they are all strengthened with dollars.
27:37The dollar is all weak with us.
27:39And we are weak with dollars.
27:41Well, as you can see,
27:42you have to use more than us.
27:45I am sorry.
27:45I am sorry.
27:46So, I am sorry?
27:46Well, I have to give you more,
27:48I have to talk to you about.
27:49It's very scary.
27:50Now, I have to talk to you about the future.
27:57Because of the economic and economic and economic and economic,
27:58just as a matter of the foreign community from China,
27:59you are doing good?
28:01No.
28:02That is the economic and economic development.
28:03You have a political and economic development for investors.
28:06Well, it was very difficult to think about the innovation.
28:33I don't think
29:05I don't think
29:12I don't think
29:14I don't think
29:36I don't think
29:39I don't think
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