00:00My boss in the IPI, Mr. Terrier Rod Larson, was the person who knew this particular infamous person, Mr. Epstein.
00:13And it is as part of a delegation of the IPI or the ICM that I met Mr. Epstein on
00:23a few occasions, three or maximum four.
00:28And the ICM was dealing with international issues, thematic issues, and Mr. Epstein was not part of it.
00:37The kind of people who were on the ICM were the former Prime Minister of Australia, Mr. Kevin Rudd was
00:44a chairman,
00:46Borje Brende from Norway, who I believe is the head of a World Economic Forum now,
00:51Hannah Tete from Ghana, Jose Manuel Ramon.
00:56I want to keep a conversation with our Yuba Neta,
01:01who has a conversation in Parliament today.
01:10He has a habit of making baseless allegations.
01:16There are two kinds of leaders.
01:19There are those who assume responsibility in the political system
01:32and then dedicate their lives to Samad Seva, transforming the country.
01:40Those leaders who have devoted their lives
01:44and ensured that during their lifetime,
01:49the country is able to move from the 10th largest economy
01:54to the third largest economy.
01:56We are the fourth now.
01:57Soon will be the third largest.
01:59And then there are other leaders who occasionally come to the country.
02:06Sometime they are traveling abroad.
02:08And when they come to Parliament,
02:10as one of my colleagues said,
02:12पहले तो ये पहले तो ये पहले तो ये पहले तो ये पहले हो जाते थे,
02:19अगर कोई कोई सब्सक्राइड रहा है तो उसको सुनने नहीं आते थे,
02:22is to walk out, और आज अपनी स्पीच देने के बाद चले गए.
02:27You know the leader I am referring to,
02:30is the same person who many years ago,
02:32मुझे याद है 2013 की बात है,
02:34when the Prime Minister of India then,
02:37Dr. Manmohan Singh,
02:39was traveling abroad,
02:42this gentleman took an ordinance
02:44which was approved by the Cabinet
02:47और उन्होंने प्रेश्ट आप जैसे वरिष्ट पत्रकारों को बलाके,
02:51निमंतरिट करके, उनके सामने ओर्डिनेंस पाड़के,
02:54हवा में फैंक दी.
02:58This is the same UN leader
03:01who a few months ago,
03:06said that one particular Brazilian model
03:10has name had appeared
03:13and that she had voted several times.
03:16बहुत दो people were very interested,
03:19ये कौन सी Brazilian model है,
03:21जो इतनी बार vote कर गई,
03:23वो पता लगा, Brazilian तो है,
03:25model है,
03:25पर किसी ने उनको गलत information
03:29युवानेता को दे दी थी,
03:30और युवानेता ने जो उनको information दी,
03:32वो जाके उन्होंने जन्ता के सामने रख दी,
03:35only to cut a sorry figure later.
03:39On another occasion,
03:42I think ये पिछला सम्विधान दिवस नवंबर वाला नहीं,
03:45उससे पहले वाला,
03:46उसके आसपात,
03:48या शायद the emergency के 50 years when we were celebrating,
03:52एक सम्विधान की copy लेके जो cellophene paper में wrapped थी,
03:56he was waving in the air,
03:58तो उनके सारे काडर भी,
03:59they were waving that copy of the constitution in the air,
04:04और किसी ना बाद में cellophene covering निकाली और का के देख तो लो,
04:08ये कौन सी constitution की आब बात कर रहे हो,
04:10this is the one which has a,
04:12in its preface,
04:14it has I think the 6th or 7th edition,
04:18जिसमें emergency जो impose हुई थी June 75,
04:21उसकी धनिये उड़ाए गई थी,
04:24और का गया था,
04:24this is the only instance in the history of India,
04:28in the history of the Indian constitution,
04:30when civil liberties were curtailed,
04:32तो ये वो उसकिसम के नेता है,
04:35अभी पीछे,
04:38he said,
04:39India is a dead economy,
04:43अरे मेरे भाई,
04:45किसी शब्द का,
04:48इस्तमाल करने से पहले,
04:51अगर dictionary meaning नहीं तो,
04:53common sense meaning दे लो,
04:55dead वो होती है चीज़ जो,
04:57no life,
04:59here is an economy which grew last quarter at 8.2%,
05:03उसके पहले at 7.8%,
05:05क्यूंके बहार में किसी ने बोला था,
05:07dead economy,
05:08तो नेता जी ने उसकी बात करके,
05:10तो मैं ये नहीं कह रहा हूं कि,
05:12ये जो करते हैं,
05:13इसकी entertainment value नहीं है,
05:15entertainment value काफी है,
05:17but on the one hand you have leaders who dedicate their lives
05:21to transforming the country who work around the clock
05:24and then you have elements of buffoonery.
05:28I am choosing my words carefully,
05:30elements of buffoonery.
05:31I did not call him a buffoon,
05:34I said elements of buffoonery.
05:35क्यूंके ये होता है,
05:37इदर के बात, उदर के बात,
05:39in eight years,
05:41there are two references,
05:44or one email,
05:45which I exchange,
05:47which is because they have introduced me,
05:49that is,
05:53my contacts have introduced me
05:55to a man called Reid Hoffman.
05:57Reid Hoffman was the founder of LinkedIn.
06:00I don't know how many of you are on LinkedIn,
06:01I suspect many of you are on LinkedIn.
06:03So I meet Mr. Reid Hoffman of LinkedIn
06:07and after the meeting with Reid Hoffman,
06:11I send a message.
06:13Now, the Epstein files,
06:15the Yuva Neta should know,
06:16are about wrongdoing,
06:19criminal offenses.
06:21The Epstein files are about
06:23charges that he had on Ireland
06:25where he used to take people to
06:28indulge in,
06:29indulge their sexual fantasies,
06:31charges of pedophilia,
06:32and there are victims of this.
06:34Those victims have brought cases
06:36against the people in authority.
06:39My interaction has got nothing to do with that.
06:41My interaction,
06:42and this is the only substantive email,
06:44there are one or two others also I'll give you.
06:45This is dated 13th November 2014.
06:51It's a long email.
06:53Anybody wants a copy,
06:55it's available on the internet.
06:58The DOJ,
06:58Mr. Rahul Gandhi says,
07:00the Department of Justice has put out flights.
07:06What am I telling Mr. Reid Hoffman
07:08on an email which is copied to Epstein?
07:11I'm saying I am now convinced more than ever
07:14that India today presents a terrific opportunity
07:17for internet-based economic activity.
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