00:00Les Payne, who was a founder and member, spoke at my graduate school when I was in the Nation of Islam at Syracuse University and told me about NABJ.
00:12And I was like, what? I never heard of this. And so I was the only, there were two black reporters at that newspaper.
00:20I went to the very next NABJ conference and I have never missed one since.
00:27So while I'm not a founder, I've attended 49 of the 50 of them.
00:32And for me, I rose to the level of the news director of the NBC station in New York, which at the time I was like the highest rank.
00:43None of that could have happened for me without NABJ.
00:46So I don't have a personal moment.
00:48What I will say is that I attribute much of what happened in my career to my relationship with my NABJ brothers and sisters.
00:57Because there's no way any of us, I think, can make it and maintain our sanity.
01:03Because these folks will try, they are trying to drive us crazy.
01:07That's a lot of, what do we call it now, when they play in your face?
01:10Yeah.
01:11It's a lot of that going on.
01:13I don't know.
01:14But I can't wait.
01:23I can't wait.
01:26I can't wait.
01:26I think there won't be much because they haven't changed to do it.
01:28I don't know.
01:30I think there's no way that it's confusing to be.
01:31I think there's no way that necessarily ABJ, but it may become more difficult for you.
01:35No, I don't know.
01:36So often I can tell ya that I don't know.
01:37The reason is, I don't know what happens you do.
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