00:00Hey, before you leave, come and talk to me just for a second.
00:04My name is Tonya, I'm a registered nurse, used to do mama baby nursing.
00:09I can tell you how abortion is gonna hurt you, you'll never be the same again.
00:30When I started filming Trapped, my film about the struggles of abortion providers in the
00:36South, I never thought I'd meet a protester like Tonya.
00:45In the black community, most people describe themselves as religious, and even if they
00:49don't personally support abortion, they also describe themselves as pro-choice.
00:57I'm the media spokesperson for Pro-Life Mississippi.
01:01The pro-life side has won, we've already won.
01:06How did you get involved with Pro-Life Mississippi?
01:10I had gone to Saturday morning mass, and someone came up to me and said, would you like to go
01:15and pray at the abortion clinic with us?
01:17I said, sure.
01:19And I went out to the clinic, and I saw a picture of an aborted baby.
01:27And I fell on my knees and I wept.
01:31I couldn't pray.
01:32I could not believe it.
01:35I had an abortion when I was coming along, and it was at that time that I realized what
01:42I had done.
01:43I weep for women who are going to go down the same road that I go down, and I know how painful
01:54it is.
01:55At the time, what made you think that you couldn't?
01:59Fear.
02:00What were you afraid of?
02:01Everything.
02:02You name it, I was scared.
02:04Were you married?
02:05No.
02:06If I had been married, I wouldn't have been afraid of anybody finding out about my fornication.
02:13You know, which is a large part of why women have abortions.
02:16Ooh, can't let anybody know I was doing that.
02:19Ooh, can't let anybody know I'm pregnant and I'm not married.
02:22Ooh, can't let, you know, just fear.
02:25Just fear.
02:26And trying to keep the secret.
02:27Come here, sweetie, before you leave, let me give you some healing literature.
02:31You cannot be on the fence like that.
02:33Oh, I can't.
02:34I can't even do this.
02:35You guys on the air now.
02:36You need to get up off the ground.
02:38Who's ready for motherhood?
02:41You know, who's ready?
02:43No one's ready.
02:44But you accept.
02:46You accept.
02:48And we're talking about money and a babysitter.
02:53My dad was a family medicine doctor.
02:55Then I have several cousins who are physicians.
03:00The black community is lukewarm.
03:02I got people in my family that got so angry with me when I started doing pro-life work.
03:10They're sitting on the fence.
03:12With abortion, there is no middle ground.
03:16Be hot or be cold.
03:18But if you're lukewarm, God will literally vomit you out of his mouth.
03:23You know, make up your mind.
03:26Choose good or choose evil.
03:29There's so much about Tanya that's really fascinating to me.
03:33She has family members who are pro-choice, family members who are physicians, just like
03:38I do.
03:39But when I think about how she told me it's just about money and a babysitter, I get really
03:44upset.
03:45According to the Gutmacher Institute, 59 percent of American women who have abortions are already
03:51mothers.
03:52They know how hard the job is.
03:53It took me 10 hours to get to this clinic.
04:02My area, Mississippi, it didn't have a clinic for abortions.
04:05So I had to look to my hometown where I'm from to see if they would do it for me.
04:12But they told me I was too far along.
04:14A lot of people are stopping at 9 weeks and 12 weeks, and I'm 17.
04:21Right now I'm kind of relying on government assistance until I find a job.
04:26So I just didn't have the money for the abortion.
04:28So that's why it took me so long.
04:30That is $460.
04:31I paid $600 total.
04:32I just had a birthday, so I took some of the birthday money I had.
04:38And it was also a fear.
04:40Like, my mom, she doesn't believe in abortions.
04:43So I need you to sign the form there.
04:47I have a six-month-old baby.
04:49It's just a lot that goes with taking care of one child, let alone two.
04:53I said, I can't do it.
04:55I can't do it again, not by myself.
04:58Like, my child's father, he's not as involved as he should be.
05:02So, yeah.
05:08Before I came, I was kind of scared.
05:10I'm like, I hope it's not a sketchy clinic.
05:12But everybody's so nice.
05:14The place is clean.
05:15Hi.
05:16How are you doing?
05:17Cramping up a little bit.
05:18Okay, you cramping a little bit?
05:19What I want to do is give you some medicine and have them put it in your cheeks.
05:23So just let it...
05:24Just put it in your cheeks.
05:25Don't swallow it.
05:26Let it dissolve.
05:27Just put it in your cheeks.
05:28Well, I wasn't really planning on staying as long as I did.
05:31When I came in Tuesday, I thought that I was going to be gone by Thursday, which was yesterday.
05:37But it didn't happen like that.
05:39When I first came in, there was a lot of girls in here.
05:49So I guess we tried to schedule them first come, first serve.
05:52And I had to wait until today to get the procedure done.
05:56Bring it in through your nose and out through your mouth.
05:59Deep breaths.
06:00Your service is dilated the way I need it to be.
06:03So this is when you start to feel something to pull in.
06:06Ms. Gloria, the operator of this clinic, I'm happy that she fought to keep it open.
06:12And a lot of young ladies like me don't have a second chance to even look to other places to get this done.
06:18So I'm kind of happy about that.
06:20Yeah, I'm happy.
06:22My situation I have back home with my kid is all I'm thinking about.
06:29Tell me what you want him to be when he grows up.
06:32What do you want in his life?
06:33I'm sorry, Mom, I'm about to start crying, but um...
06:55I just want him to be better than me.
06:59I kind of went through a lot growing up or whatever, as far as my parents.
07:11And um, I just want him to be better than me.
07:14I ran, like, I was in the streets a lot.
07:17I actually just kind of sort of got out the streets like a few years ago,
07:22and I just want him to be better than me.
07:29I'm a big believer in God and Jesus Christ, and only God can judge you.
07:34He knows where your heart is.
07:36So, I feel like just do what you need to do.
07:39And Father God, if there's anything, God, in our hearts, minds, soul, God,
07:46that will separate us from you, God.
07:48Father God, we repent of the God right now, God.
07:51And Father God, elect you, God, to restore us, God, and to right-standing God with you, God.
07:56I live in Montgomery.
07:59Not only do I work at my home church where I grew up in, I still live in the same house I grew up in.
08:06It's nothing like home.
08:08You know, and I think the greatest thing is to be able to be home.
08:19You, um, you still in high school?
08:21You're finished high school?
08:23When I introduce myself to the women, I tell them that I am a licensed, a dame minister, you know,
08:28and I'm not here to force anything on anybody.
08:31And I feel that my role here is not to judge anybody, but to let them know that,
08:37Hey, God, forgive you.
08:39We have all sinned and come short of the glory of God.
08:43But God is a forgiving God, you know.
08:48For whatever reason, you know, you feel this was the best decision for you.
08:52So, you know, you've got to be able to.
08:54I pray, I pray.
08:55God forgives us.
08:57But the thing is, sometimes we can't forgive ourself.
09:00So you've got to forgive yourself and you've got to find peace in the time of a storm.
09:05Okay?
09:06My experience and my relationship with Christ makes a big difference in the recovery room
09:11because women, you know, are having that hard time,
09:15and I have the opportunity to minister to them and stuff.
09:18They appreciate that.
09:20Good morning, Reba.
09:21I give health services.
09:22How may I help you?
09:23Tally, here you go, baby.
09:24All right.
09:25Well, we'll find it.
09:26All right.
09:27God gave us choice.
09:28No one have the right to take that choice from anyone, you know, I feel.
09:34You don't have to agree with it, but that person still has to have that choice to make their own decisions.
09:40The protesters say that I'm wrong, you know, say, you know.
09:44But just because you close the clinic, that's not going to change the fact that women are going to still have abortions.
09:50And I think you need to be more concerned that they're going to have it in a safe place where they're going to get the treatment that they need and the care that they need versus in a back alley, in a dark room, or someone that don't really know what they're doing.
10:07Let him who's without sin catch the first stone.
10:17None of us know what tomorrow holds.
10:20So if you wake up in the morning and you don't have that bank account like you have now, and something will happen to one of your kids, what would you want?
10:30How would you feel?
10:32You ready?
10:33If you have never lived it, then you need to think about, you know, hey, what can I do to help someone else?
10:42And making it hard is not helping.
10:52Working on this film, I realized I actually had no idea what my mother thought about abortion.
10:58Like most kids, you think you know everything, but I realized I had never asked her.
11:03Okay, don't say anything. I know I never told you this.
11:06So I'm going to say when I was around 40, we're talking 30 years ago, you must have just started college.
11:19And I discovered that I was pregnant. I went to the doctor. I think I was about somewhere between four and six weeks.
11:27Wow.
11:28I never knew that.
11:29There's a lot of stuff you don't know, but I'm telling you now.
11:33It was a very hard time for us economically.
11:37I had four children who were late teenagers.
11:42We had unbelievable financial troubles at that time.
11:47We didn't know if we were going to be able to make, you know, the house payment the next week.
11:51And it just seemed like just too overwhelming.
11:54And we made a decision to have an abortion.
11:57It was really a hard decision.
12:00You know what I was thinking is my father died.
12:04My stepfather, you married when I was a teenager.
12:07He had two children.
12:09So we had this blended family.
12:11And all of us always wished we had, I don't know why, we always wanted you to have a baby.
12:17Did you know that?
12:19No, but don't tell me that now.
12:27Still to this day, when I look at all of you, I think in terms of what this child would have been to you at this age.
12:36Like this child would be 30 now.
12:38I look at my grandchildren.
12:40And I will tell you, it's something that never has gone away.
12:45It's funny that all the talks about abortion, I don't really think about my abortion.
12:53But what makes me think about my abortion are my children and my grandchildren.
12:58And I just will probably never get over it.
13:02Are you religious?
13:04I am very religious.
13:06How do you reconcile faith and your choice?
13:10I believe that God is forgiving.
13:12I think that people use God to justify whatever they want it to justify.
13:18But I don't think that God or Jesus really would chastise anyone.
13:23I think that God and Jesus would be pro-choice.
13:26Me too.
13:34I know.
13:35I could not.
13:36So thank you.
13:38Visit us here to go hopefully more than this time.
13:40Oh God.
13:42I can also help them.
13:43I'm لو can tell it all.
13:44I mean that the king.
13:45Iовые his people have to strive to.
13:47But also I'll worry.
13:48I apologize or will not settle these silly things?
13:50Oh did I think that either.
13:52There are anyidentally.
13:54At least one of those.
13:55Instead of here.
13:56Where's fils.
13:57How is it at?
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