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00:02:40We did a lot of concerts over the years

00:02:43And the kids would always come

00:02:45So we would always be there together

00:02:48And experience those moments together

00:02:50We would literally be put to bed backstage

00:02:58Like we'd bring sleeping bags and pillows

00:03:00And we'd go to sleep with the sounds of a rock band

00:03:03Dad, because he was a promoter

00:03:10He ended up being like the host of the night

00:03:13So before the band would come up

00:03:14He was up on stage making the announcements

00:03:15And so I remember hugging dad's leg

00:03:18And kind of looking out at the front row of people

00:03:22But we also did little things promotionally

00:03:25I remember distinctly putting flyers out

00:03:27On like a car park full of vehicles

00:03:30And then going to concerts

00:03:33Watching Striper, for instance

00:03:36Just eyes popping out of my head

00:03:40Watching this band

00:03:42Going to shows with dad

00:03:44And getting on his shoulders

00:03:47Putting my hands over my ears

00:03:49Because it was just so loud

00:03:50And I felt a lot of pride being there

00:03:52Being my dad's son

00:03:54For me, music was just always a natural part of my life

00:03:58And our whole family's life

00:04:00We had a big barn out the back of the house

00:04:02And we had a band, you know

00:04:04Me as a three, four year old

00:04:06And pots and pans and the whole thing

00:04:07And we would play music together

00:04:09Like we would sell merch at our shows

00:04:12For our parents

00:04:13I mean, it was just so normal for us

00:04:16And so natural

00:04:16The Smallbone family is an amazing, crazy one

00:04:23And I love it

00:04:24So this is dad, David

00:04:27Our mom, Helen

00:04:29My older sister, Rebecca

00:04:30Daniel, the oldest boy

00:04:32Ben, me, Joel

00:04:35Here's Luke, Josh

00:04:37And Libby was not quite born yet

00:04:41But she was well on her way

00:04:43I think the DNA of the Smallbone family

00:04:51Is ingenuity

00:04:53Character

00:04:54Pursuing excellence in all that you do

00:04:58Taking what it is that you uniquely know

00:05:03And putting that back into the family

00:05:07I think it's creativity

00:05:09Faith

00:05:10One of the things that drew myself

00:05:13To the family

00:05:14Is the ways in which they carried themselves

00:05:18They behaved also like Christians

00:05:21So we love Jesus together

00:05:23So there was this cultural overlap

00:05:26A kingdom cultural overlap

00:05:28That gave us this connection

00:05:30I always thought of their family

00:05:32As being discipleship oriented

00:05:35Those people were a rock

00:05:37I mean, Helen is a spiritual powerhouse

00:05:39And David is just singularly focused

00:05:42And my plan was to live normal life

00:05:49Then on a really big tour

00:05:52I'd budgeted for the same numbers

00:05:54That this artist had toured with previously

00:05:56Not realising the economy was

00:05:59Was in a really bad place

00:06:01When you get on a tour

00:06:0320, 30, 40% down every night

00:06:05You realise the end is nigh

00:06:07We're down 10,000 people

00:06:09$25 a ticket

00:06:10So we lost

00:06:11We lost a quarter of a million

00:06:13We'd invested probably 15 years

00:06:18In the Australian Christian music scene

00:06:21Those two weeks

00:06:23Probably toughest

00:06:24Two weeks of my life

00:06:26This is what he was called to do

00:06:28This was his purpose in life

00:06:30This is what he knew how to do

00:06:32And when he lost everything

00:06:34He said

00:06:36I don't know what I'm going to do

00:06:38I just

00:06:39I honestly

00:06:40Didn't know how I was going to

00:06:43Pay the mortgage

00:06:44I remember getting the calls from them

00:06:46You know

00:06:47Calling me up late at night

00:06:48When are you going to pay for this

00:06:50We're about to foreclose

00:06:52All that type of stuff

00:06:52I was

00:06:55I was really not in a good place

00:06:57Tried to still do concerts

00:06:59But the industry

00:07:01Kind of wanted me to go away

00:07:02Because I was

00:07:04Been a bit of an embarrassment

00:07:05Australians

00:07:08They're known to be great fighters

00:07:10I used to have a statement

00:07:11If God closed the door

00:07:13David would have pulled open a window

00:07:14And we had no back door

00:07:16And I remember going to Helen

00:07:18And saying

00:07:19Hey

00:07:19Hey Dahl

00:07:20What about

00:07:22Where will we go to America?

00:07:25When it came to this announcement

00:07:42That we were going to the States

00:07:45I was

00:07:46I felt really proud of us

00:07:47Like telling my friends

00:07:49As a six, seven year old

00:07:50Like

00:07:50I'm going

00:07:51Going over halfway around the world

00:07:54To all my friends

00:07:55It was like the place

00:07:56That Disneyland was

00:07:57You know

00:07:57So

00:07:58You get to go to Disneyland?

00:07:59So cool

00:07:59Mum and dad painted all of these things

00:08:02As to be just a crazy adventure

00:08:03It made us feel secure as kids

00:08:05We didn't know what we were going to do

00:08:07And how it was all going to pan out

00:08:09Young Australian family coming to America

00:08:13Because we were very intimidated

00:08:15When we entered the country

00:08:18And we were going through customs

00:08:20I remember thinking

00:08:21That we might not actually get to come

00:08:24They saw so many people in so many bags

00:08:26And I'm five months pregnant

00:08:28So I'm pulling my tummy in

00:08:30So they can't see that I'm pregnant

00:08:32They could have turned us away

00:08:34But they didn't

00:08:35It was the fact that we were together

00:08:37The fact that we were eight of us

00:08:39And we learned to really rely on each other

00:08:42It was kind of an adventure

00:08:45Like those early years

00:08:46For I think all of us kids

00:08:48We felt very safe

00:08:49In mum and dad's love for us

00:08:53It was still such an adventure

00:08:57I didn't really know

00:08:58That anything was dramatically wrong

00:09:01But it was

00:09:02The plan when we first moved to Nashville

00:09:07Was for dad to manage a Christian artist

00:09:11And then probably grow that like management element

00:09:15So that was the plan

00:09:18And what happened

00:09:19What happened

00:09:20Came over to work for somebody

00:09:24It was an artist that I toured very successfully in Australia

00:09:27He left me

00:09:27Let me go after two months

00:09:29And so we were forced into living by faith

00:09:34The first six months or so

00:09:40Maybe the first year

00:09:41Were pretty tough for us all

00:09:43I shook in my boots every day

00:09:45Most weeks I didn't know how

00:09:47We're going to put food on the table

00:09:49Every day we would wake up

00:09:53And be like

00:09:54What's going to happen today?

00:09:56We're just about out of groceries

00:09:58We've got no more food

00:10:00We've got no more money

00:10:01I remember making the ramen noodle soups

00:10:03With the four

00:10:04We used to make four packets of ramen noodle soups

00:10:06Which probably made the combination of two dollars

00:10:11There was no furniture

00:10:12And we would wear our clothes through the day

00:10:15And then we would kind of pile our clothes

00:10:17Amongst a few sheets at night

00:10:19And we would sleep on these beds made out of clothes

00:10:21Like literally she'd tuck the sheets around the clothes

00:10:25Like our winter clothes

00:10:27So that we had a bed to sleep on

00:10:28Like not even mattresses

00:10:31We would have our parents ringing up and saying

00:10:34You know it's too hard

00:10:35It's not working

00:10:36Come home

00:10:36I knew innately there was nothing to go home to

00:10:39There was no retreat

00:10:41There was no alternative

00:10:42We had to make this work

00:10:44Moving to the other side of the world

00:10:45Working for an artist

00:10:47And then having that fall through

00:10:49Your only source of income

00:10:50Cannot imagine the vulnerability of that as a parent

00:10:53At that time

00:11:00My dad

00:11:02Had passed away

00:11:04A wound that my dad carries

00:11:10To this day

00:11:11Is not being able to say goodbye to him

00:11:13Because he was stuck over here

00:11:16And couldn't get back

00:11:17Because of visa issues

00:11:19That was hard time for me

00:11:24There was one day

00:11:31When my dad couldn't get out of bed

00:11:33He was so down about it

00:11:35Which is highly unusual for him

00:11:37He's like positive

00:11:38Almost to a fault

00:11:39When I came to grips with things turning from maybe severe to more severe

00:11:52Was we didn't have any food and we didn't have a car

00:11:56Rebecca and dad and Daniel walked to a convenience shop

00:12:03Easily three or four miles

00:12:04And I remember at sunset

00:12:09Waiting just outside for ages

00:12:11Waiting for them to come back

00:12:13We need a car

00:12:15Money, food

00:12:16To survive

00:12:17We're going to pray

00:12:18And we're just going to trust God for this

00:12:20And a lot of us remember Joel

00:12:22Specifically actually praying

00:12:23God we pray for a car

00:12:26I knew

00:12:30And I have a feeling

00:12:32It was probably just the peace of God

00:12:33That I knew that God would see us out

00:12:36That's when I started seeing the miraculous

00:12:40There was a family that ended up becoming really iconic in our family's life

00:12:45And that was the Moore family

00:12:46My introduction to the Smallworn clan was in the early 90s

00:12:51And we were having Thanksgiving dinner at our house

00:12:54And some of the people in the group said

00:12:56Hey there's a new family in town from Australia

00:12:59Should we ask them

00:13:00We said yeah that'd be awesome

00:13:00We showed up at this family's home

00:13:04Just seeing the enormous amounts of food

00:13:09I remember Joel sitting at that thing

00:13:11And he couldn't touch it

00:13:12He had to wait

00:13:13And all the kids are excited

00:13:15And you know it's like probably 30 of us there

00:13:17It was interesting because you know

00:13:20They didn't have a vehicle

00:13:22They were just getting around

00:13:23Who knows how

00:13:24And at this point I am eight months pregnant

00:13:27And I got pretty tired

00:13:30And I was like can you know

00:13:31Can you take us home

00:13:32My wife went to the

00:13:33Back into the bedroom to do something

00:13:36And I walked back there

00:13:37And I said

00:13:38Luanne I know this is crazy

00:13:39But I said

00:13:40I feel like we're supposed to give them our van

00:13:42And it's then that he pulled the keys out of his pocket

00:13:45And said you can drive yourself home

00:13:47It's just crazy

00:13:49I remember getting in it that night

00:13:52And the sense of provision I felt in that moment

00:13:58When you're sitting there

00:14:00And mom and dad are saying

00:14:01Yeah we have these needs as a family

00:14:03And then hey somebody just dropped groceries off on the doorstep

00:14:07Or dad just went to the mail

00:14:09And somehow he got a check for a thousand dollars

00:14:11And we can pay rent

00:14:12That makes you feel less lonely

00:14:14Makes you feel like somebody is looking out for you

00:14:16Many, many, many years ago

00:14:24I was a traveling artist

00:14:26In the early days of Christian music

00:14:28We were a fledgling rock band

00:14:33And we would tour Australia

00:14:35And we'd always heard

00:14:37That there was this kind of big time promoter over there

00:14:40And he never would work with us

00:14:42We never hit it big enough for him

00:14:44His name was David Smallbone

00:14:46The next time I saw David Smallbone

00:14:51Was one day in Franklin, Tennessee

00:14:54When there was a knock on my door

00:14:57And this fellow with a heavy Australian accent

00:15:00Said they had opened a business mowing people's lawns

00:15:03Almost immediately with dad losing his job

00:15:07We became a family unit and force financially

00:15:12People would give us odd jobs

00:15:14And we were working together

00:15:15It became kind of creative

00:15:19And that was my goal of grocery stores

00:15:21You know, you have the trolleys

00:15:22They have the rack underneath

00:15:25And I was at that point still small enough

00:15:29untuk menurut saya ke bawah ke bawah ke bawah ke bawah

00:15:33dan saya bisa melihat ke bawah

00:15:37sehingga kami membeli kawasan

00:15:41dan melihat sebuah misalannya.

00:15:43Dan saya menemukan, saya pikir,

00:15:45sebuah $10 atau $20 bill

00:15:47di bawah di bawah.

00:15:49Dan itu adalah kata-kata.

00:15:51Rebekah membeli babisik

00:15:53dan kemudian keluarga lain

00:15:55dan kami membeli muka orang lain.

00:15:57mereka yang terjadi di dunia.

00:15:59Di mana kita tidak menurut saya

00:16:01tidak menurut saya terima kasih.

00:16:03Saya tidak mempunyai untuk membeli

00:16:05baik, saya berpunyai untuk membeli.

00:16:07Saya membeli keluarga.

00:16:09Saya harus mencari ini.

00:16:11Saya tidak menurut saya tidak menurut saya

00:16:13melihat banyak orang yang membeli

00:16:15dan keluarga ini untuk pembeli

00:16:17dan membeli saya,

00:16:19tidak tidak menurut saya

00:16:20dengan maju,

00:16:21saya tidak menurut saya

00:16:23dengan keluarga saya,

00:16:25One of my distinct memories during that is being really frustrated at Luke

00:16:31Luke was always kind of the, what we call the PR guy of the family

00:16:35I remember one day we were raking leaves and he was sitting on the John Deere

00:16:40With his legs kind of propped up on the steering wheel

00:16:43And just talking to the owner for a couple hours

00:16:48It's a pain in the neck

00:16:51Lukey, they tell me you're the backbone of the raking team, is that true?

00:16:55Yeah, Luke's around, sitting on the line

00:16:59Luke is good at the public relations, you know

00:17:02I've always found it pretty easy to talk to people

00:17:04And I felt like if they were to talk to a six-year-old about raking leaves

00:17:08That there was a very good chance that we were going to be back

00:17:10And the answer is, was it a little lazy?

00:17:13He knew, he was a smart kid, he knew exactly what he was doing

00:17:25Kate, why don't you just start by telling me about your history with the Smallwood family

00:17:32All right, it started in about 1993

00:17:36Got a little flyer, said that there was a family from Australia

00:17:41That had moved to America

00:17:42And the dad's work fell through

00:17:44And so the first thing I thought was, oh my goodness

00:17:49What can I do to help this family?

00:17:52I figured I can minister to this family with food

00:17:55And the mom greeted me at the door

00:17:58And she was just this radiant, beautiful person

00:18:02She's got a baby in her arms

00:18:04And she's got all these children

00:18:06I couldn't even count them all

00:18:08I walked through the house

00:18:10And they didn't have anything

00:18:12I thought all along, why aren't these people sad?

00:18:17But they were not sad

00:18:19They had so much joy

00:18:22And were so thankful for anything and everything that God gave them

00:18:28That day, I went to be a blessing to the Smallbones

00:18:33And they ended up being a blessing to me

00:18:37Christmas came

00:18:48And I said to David

00:18:49I said, what are we going to do about Christmas?

00:18:51Because we got no money

00:18:52And I'll never forget

00:18:56They were telling the children

00:18:58That Santa had lost their address

00:19:01What I remember was

00:19:04Mom saying

00:19:06If he does find us

00:19:08He's not going to be able to bring us much

00:19:10It's probably just going to be things from the dollar shop

00:19:12I think we were all like

00:19:13Man, Santa doesn't care that we're poor

00:19:15There's no way that we're not going to get presents

00:19:18Santa is not dictated to by our financial situation

00:19:21He's going to find us

00:19:22And again, just this undying

00:19:25Child-like, literally

00:19:27Faith

00:19:28That he was going to show up

00:19:30A first grade class found out that we didn't have any way to buy gifts for one another

00:19:36Someone had brought it to the class

00:19:38And so the classroom, that first grade class, sponsored us that year

00:19:42And they went to Mum and they said, hey, we want to be kind of partner with Santa

00:19:45And sure enough, Christmas morning comes

00:19:49And still to this day, I've never had the amount of presents that I had on that morning

00:19:55To see the kids being blessed

00:19:59It was another element of God that I didn't expect

00:20:03Where it wasn't just our needs, food on the table

00:20:07But he went above and beyond

00:20:09And loved on them

00:20:11Because it was his point to me

00:20:13That was very special

00:20:16It was great because we were able to go back to Mum and Dad

00:20:22And be like, see, you know, if Santa doesn't care that we're poor

00:20:25You know, Santa takes care of the good kids

00:20:27Why'd you ever doubt Santa?

00:20:29Of course he was going to

00:20:30He was going to come

00:20:31Santa was going to come through

00:20:32And she kind of smiled knowingly

00:20:35I'm going to bring Elizabeth

00:20:37I'm going to bring Elizabeth

00:20:39She's been doing Whitney Houston impersonations

00:20:49Come on, Beth, go for it

00:20:51Let's sing, Beth

00:20:51Show them the training that I've been doing

00:20:54Pretty soon after we moved, Dad had more time on his hands

00:20:59So it very naturally just kind of moved over to working with me

00:21:02And I remember Dad doing rehearsals with Rebecca

00:21:07Who was 15 maybe

00:21:08With a wooden spoon

00:21:09You know, very glamorous situation

00:21:13Dad was taking Rebecca to all these different record labels

00:21:20Some of them, you know, Dad and her twice

00:21:23And man, the resilience and the thick skin

00:21:27Like just, from what I understand, kind of toned down left and right

00:21:31David mentioned to me

00:21:33After a few months of mowing our lawn

00:21:36That, you know, Rebecca was a singer

00:21:38I didn't even know that

00:21:39I was looking for a young girl artist

00:21:43That would want to sing to her peers

00:21:46And she was doing a few songs at their church

00:21:50And asked me if I would take a listen

00:21:53There's a thousand seat room

00:21:54There's four people in the room

00:21:56And I remember watching this as, you know, a boy

00:21:59Going, man, my big sister, what a superhero

00:22:01Like her confidence and her charisma

00:22:04To kind of stand in the most awkward, unflattering situation

00:22:11In an empty room and just sing these songs

00:22:13Was incredibly courageous

00:22:15And she's a courageous woman

00:22:17When it came time that Rebecca started to do tours

00:22:34We couldn't bear the thought of being separated

00:22:37We'd already become that family unit

00:22:39Like we were already doing school together

00:22:41So the natural next step was basically to become

00:22:45The Australian version of the Von Trapp family

00:22:47We were in a 15-seater passenger van with all of us

00:22:53And sibling squabbles

00:22:54And, you know, I was a bossy big sister

00:22:57For sure

00:22:58The first time I met the Smallbones was 1996

00:23:01The van pulling up

00:23:04And the entire Smallbone clan comes out

00:23:07Just kind of like

00:23:08Another one

00:23:09And another one

00:23:10And another one

00:23:10You know, I was like

00:23:11How many kids do you guys have?

00:23:14Dad needed a cheap road crew

00:23:15So we became the guys

00:23:18Initially, we didn't have massive responsibilities

00:23:23Like we had this tiny little backdrop

00:23:25That we propped up

00:23:26And had a couple power cans

00:23:27And we had these two moving lights

00:23:29Called track spots

00:23:30That we just thought

00:23:30Were the most amazing thing

00:23:32We were in a pattern

00:23:37Of continually trying to get better

00:23:39You know, to try and get better at our craft

00:23:41We were put out there

00:23:44And failure wasn't an option

00:23:46And you just figured it out

00:23:47We all kind of did merch at some point

00:23:50I've absolutely sold many a t-shirt

00:23:53In my type

00:23:53Joel probably didn't get that

00:23:55Merch job

00:23:55Because he didn't know

00:23:57How to add and subtract very well

00:23:59I became the merch guy

00:24:01For maybe a night or two

00:24:03And I basically built

00:24:04Built a castle

00:24:06Out of cassette tapes

00:24:07That's when I was so

00:24:08I was so proud of myself

00:24:10Were you fired from that job?

00:24:13Why did you want to stay in it?

00:24:19Yes, I was fired

00:24:21But I don't think any of us

00:24:22Thought of it that way

00:24:23There was such a shuffle at that point

00:24:26Looking back now again

00:24:27hindsight 2020

00:24:28You could see dad

00:24:30Being kind of the ultimate

00:24:31Like orchestrator in that moment

00:24:33Kind of going

00:24:34Okay, well that didn't really suit him

00:24:36And so he should probably go and do this

00:24:38And we all ended up

00:24:40Finding these sweet spots

00:24:42They needed someone to be able to sing harmonies

00:24:46And I hadn't hit puberty yet

00:24:48And so I could fly scoring high above my sister

00:24:51And that's when I started singing

00:24:53And so I used to sing

00:24:54I never got

00:24:55They wouldn't allow me to get up on stage

00:24:56I would sing from the boards

00:24:58I eventually got promoted

00:25:00To being the lighting director

00:25:02And I used to at one point

00:25:03Try and sing background vocals

00:25:05While I was running lights

00:25:06That didn't last for very long

00:25:09Maybe we should just mute the drums for that section

00:25:12Because it's the drums that have thrown me off

00:25:13You are my savior

00:25:16And you are my god

00:25:18You are my love

00:25:20You are my help

00:25:21I remember the moment

00:25:23You are my love

00:25:23The second record was done

00:25:25And we went by

00:25:26To pick up the seat

00:25:28Like that was the thing then

00:25:29You picked up the CDs

00:25:30And we pulled it out

00:25:32And saw this really unique

00:25:34Interesting cover

00:25:35Even as a youngster

00:25:38You could feel the kind of bubbling of energy

00:25:39Of like this

00:25:40We've got something really special

00:25:43And everything changed

00:25:44She very quickly graduated

00:25:50To having a band backing her up

00:25:52The 15 passenger van

00:25:54Went to two RVs

00:25:56That we actually bought

00:25:57And one housed the band

00:25:58And the other housed the family

00:25:59And even grew beyond that

00:26:01Even in that first record

00:26:02To like two RVs

00:26:03And a bus

00:26:04A touring bus

00:26:04One time David said

00:26:06Hey do you want to come on set

00:26:07We were playing at like

00:26:08I think Kingdom Bound

00:26:09Together with Rebecca

00:26:10He said you want to come on stage

00:26:12And sing God with Rebecca

00:26:14I was like

00:26:14Of course I want to come on

00:26:16And I love that song God

00:26:17Here's Rebecca St. James

00:26:20Super Grammy winner

00:26:22Record sales in the millions

00:26:24Rebecca is a Grammy Award winning singer

00:26:26Featuring one of Christian music's biggest stars

00:26:29It was the launching pad

00:26:31Of Rebecca's career

00:26:32And ultimately

00:26:32Part of us

00:26:33Being able to sustainably be in the States

00:26:35The stage production grew

00:26:39From this little kind of

00:26:40Rinky dink backdrop

00:26:41To all these moving lights

00:26:43And it became much more elaborate

00:26:44It was perfect

00:26:47Because we as boys

00:26:49Were really able to like

00:26:50Sink our teeth

00:26:51Into programming and design

00:26:53In a much steeper way

00:26:54You kind of knew that

00:26:56Even if I don't know how to do this

00:26:57If we're in this together

00:26:59We're going to figure it out

00:27:00That breeds an amazing trust

00:27:02Within all the family

00:27:04There were trades and skills

00:27:05That were developed

00:27:06While supporting her

00:27:08The whole family grew

00:27:10In that season

00:27:11Do this, do that

00:27:17Order this, order that

00:27:19Follow my directions

00:27:20I think I know everything in the world

00:27:23Follow me

00:27:24Joel at a very young age

00:27:26Twelve I believe

00:27:28Had an eye for stages

00:27:29And at that point

00:27:30We were doing a lot of church staging

00:27:32And he got an expert

00:27:34At building stages

00:27:35And being our stage manager

00:27:37And loading in

00:27:39And being in charge of people

00:27:40As the crews got bigger

00:27:45And bigger locally

00:27:46You know, he's calling

00:27:47All the shots of where

00:27:48Everything goes on stage

00:27:49And telling these men

00:27:51That are like

00:27:51At least three times his age

00:27:53What to do

00:27:54And they look at him initially

00:27:55And go

00:27:55This guy is going to

00:27:57Be telling me what to do

00:27:58And by the

00:27:59By, you know

00:28:00Like 30 minutes in

00:28:02They were like

00:28:02Okay, yeah

00:28:02He knows what he's doing

00:28:03Up until probably

00:28:06Eleven or twelve

00:28:07My relationship

00:28:09With the stage

00:28:10Was very frightful

00:28:13Even checking a vocal

00:28:15In a room

00:28:17Where there was

00:28:19Maybe a dozen people

00:28:20In the room

00:28:21Was equally frightful

00:28:22For me

00:28:23During Rebecca's

00:28:24First record

00:28:25She had a song

00:28:26That she wanted to do

00:28:27A duet

00:28:27With me

00:28:28And we rehearsed

00:28:31I mean

00:28:31It's probably a two minute piece

00:28:33We rehearsed it

00:28:34For a month

00:28:34I don't think he had

00:28:36Any idea

00:28:37What the next step was

00:28:38He just was enjoying it

00:28:39Whatever

00:28:40And then this one night

00:28:41David came and said

00:28:43You're ready

00:28:44You can do

00:28:45You can sing tonight

00:28:46And he's like

00:28:47What?

00:28:48You can sing on the stage

00:28:49No

00:28:49No, I don't want to

00:28:50He cried

00:28:52He just said

00:28:54Oh, you can't make me

00:28:56So I went to our family dog

00:28:59Kimba

00:29:00Who'd travelled with us

00:29:00On the road

00:29:01And I cried

00:29:02To Kimba

00:29:03But I ended up

00:29:05Doing it that night

00:29:06And the tide

00:29:08Kind of turned

00:29:09He fell in love

00:29:14With the stage

00:29:14And from then on

00:29:16He kept going

00:29:17Just the tour

00:29:25That we're going to do

00:29:26In August

00:29:26We're now going to do

00:29:27In November

00:29:28Do a week

00:29:29Of start rehearsing

00:29:30The Christmas material

00:29:31Then go up to

00:29:33Canada for two weeks

00:29:35Then come back

00:29:36And do another rehearse

00:29:37What do you call that day

00:29:38That you have that

00:29:39Thanksgiving

00:29:39Straight after Thanksgiving

00:29:40And

00:29:42I think probably

00:29:47Some people have

00:29:47An idealised

00:29:48Understanding of what

00:29:50Life might have been like

00:29:52Being on the road

00:29:53It's just

00:29:54It's just an unreal world

00:29:56You know

00:29:56It really is

00:29:57Like that

00:29:57That breed dysfunction

00:29:59You're out

00:30:02And there's all these people

00:30:03That are just

00:30:04Applauding you

00:30:06And telling you

00:30:06You're good at what

00:30:07You're doing

00:30:08It's not

00:30:09It's not real life

00:30:11Rebecca's

00:30:13Time

00:30:14Was very hard

00:30:15She had the weight

00:30:17Of creativity

00:30:18All on her shoulders

00:30:19Joel and Luke

00:30:20Can share it

00:30:21Is this even

00:30:21Making a difference

00:30:22Sometimes you have

00:30:23That feeling

00:30:24Like does it even matter

00:30:25I know people say

00:30:26The music helps

00:30:27But I don't know

00:30:28These people

00:30:28It's really difficult

00:30:30Being on the road

00:30:32Is an incredibly

00:30:33Grueling

00:30:34Lonely experience

00:30:35You don't

00:30:37Have your friends

00:30:38Around you

00:30:39She was alone

00:30:40In so many ways

00:30:41She was alone

00:30:43On the road

00:30:43Because it was

00:30:44Pretty much all men

00:30:45I became the middle person

00:30:47I became a friend

00:30:48But I'm a mum

00:30:49And I've got

00:30:50Six other kids

00:30:51What am I going to do?

00:30:54You are

00:30:55A young girl

00:30:56Yet you are

00:30:57The primary

00:30:58Income

00:30:59For an entire family

00:31:01That's struggling

00:31:02To get by

00:31:04So with that

00:31:05Comes so many layers

00:31:06Of complexity

00:31:07That add to that

00:31:09The expectations

00:31:10Of

00:31:10The Christian industry

00:31:12Which a lot of times

00:31:14I think can be

00:31:14More harsh

00:31:15And more intense

00:31:15Than mainstream

00:31:16If the boys

00:31:18Rock out of their bus

00:31:19Pretty much in their

00:31:20Pyjamas

00:31:20And bed hair

00:31:21Which Luke does

00:31:23People will be like

00:31:24Oh look it's so cute

00:31:25They've just woken up

00:31:26They're just coming in

00:31:27Rebecca rocks out

00:31:28In sweats

00:31:29And bed hair

00:31:32It's like

00:31:33Oh

00:31:33Oh gosh

00:31:35She doesn't look like

00:31:35Her pictures

00:31:36My heart would go

00:31:38Out to her

00:31:39To see the pain

00:31:41To see the demands

00:31:42I would hit the wall

00:31:44Just exhaustion

00:31:45And being really young

00:31:46Doing what I was doing

00:31:46With a lot of responsibility

00:31:47And I did feel

00:31:49That I needed to keep going

00:31:51At certain points

00:31:52Where I was

00:31:53Pretty overwhelmed

00:31:54Or depleted

00:31:55Internally

00:31:56Because there was

00:31:57A lot of people

00:31:58That I loved

00:31:58Relying on me

00:31:59I think I squelched

00:32:04You know

00:32:05My own internal

00:32:08Like voice of reason

00:32:10Or self protection

00:32:11Probably a lot

00:32:12Just out of desire

00:32:14To do the right thing

00:32:15Or to serve

00:32:16I felt so called to it

00:32:18And so passionate

00:32:18But you can also

00:32:20Be internally

00:32:21Grieving some of the losses

00:32:22That go along with that

00:32:23Rebecca always wanted

00:32:25To be married

00:32:27And this idea

00:32:29Of like having

00:32:30Seven to ten kids

00:32:31At every turn

00:32:33There was a hope

00:32:35For love

00:32:35Since I can remember

00:32:37That was one of the

00:32:40Great difficulties

00:32:41Of her adulthood

00:32:44And something very hard

00:32:45For me to watch

00:32:46You know

00:32:47She's 26

00:32:4827

00:32:4828

00:32:49Going into her 30s

00:32:50Over a decade

00:32:52She started feeling

00:32:53Her dreams

00:32:54And hopes

00:32:54And desires

00:32:55Being shifted

00:32:55And it became

00:32:57A very frightful thing

00:32:59To step on stage

00:33:00Really I had such a dream

00:33:02To get married

00:33:03And have a family

00:33:04And like there was times

00:33:05Where I'd be crying

00:33:05Before a tour

00:33:06Because I just

00:33:06Didn't feel like

00:33:08I had enough to give

00:33:09I knew the weight

00:33:10That she was under

00:33:11And I knew

00:33:12The cost that she was

00:33:14Giving to everything

00:33:16And um

00:33:17The one thing

00:33:20That I feel so

00:33:21Very thankful to God

00:33:23She never lost her faith

00:33:24Through the hard

00:33:26The hurts

00:33:27The difficulties

00:33:27She has always had

00:33:29A beautiful faith

00:33:30And I was so

00:33:32Respective for that

00:33:33Because

00:33:33It was hard

00:33:35We have hearts

00:33:37Full of love

00:33:37That God has given us

00:33:38And God really calls us

00:33:39To love the unloved

00:33:41You know

00:33:41To see the way

00:33:44That God has used

00:33:45Rebecca

00:33:45She impacted

00:33:46A generation of girls

00:33:48Who are now mums

00:33:49And the boys

00:33:50Are impacting

00:33:51Their kids

00:33:51Is just staggering

00:33:54We are in many ways

00:33:56A legacy band

00:33:57Of

00:33:58Rebecca St. James

00:34:00The training ground

00:34:04And the ability

00:34:05To fail

00:34:05Kind of quietly

00:34:06In the background

00:34:07And to fall in love

00:34:09With music

00:34:10Because of our experience

00:34:12With Rebecca

00:34:13I've had the privilege

00:34:14Of seeing someone

00:34:15Go before

00:34:16And I really have always

00:34:19Valued and cherished that

00:34:20I've said it a fair amount

00:34:24Over the last few years

00:34:26And I believe

00:34:27With everything in me

00:34:28That if it weren't

00:34:29All Rebecca

00:34:31There would be no

00:34:32For King Country

00:34:33It's funny

00:34:36Because I've kind of

00:34:37Envied an element

00:34:41Of what Joel and Luke

00:34:42Have in For King Country

00:34:43And that is each other

00:34:45I have

00:34:46I've cried about the fact

00:34:48That I didn't have

00:34:49A Luke

00:34:50To do it with me

00:34:53Would have been

00:34:55Different for me

00:34:56But I'm glad for them

00:34:58I'm glad they have

00:34:59Each other

00:34:59And they don't have

00:35:01To do it alone

00:35:02Because it's hard

00:35:02It's a hard thing

00:35:04To do alone

00:35:04I'm thankful

00:35:07For the support

00:35:10That they have

00:35:10That has grieved me

00:35:12That I didn't have done

00:35:13I don't know

00:35:14I don't know

00:35:15I don't know

00:35:16I don't know

00:35:17I don't know

00:35:18What is that?

00:35:19And let's break down

00:35:20For Bobby

00:35:21Before King Country

00:35:35There was Joel and Luke

00:35:38Before Joel and Luke

00:35:52There was just Joel

00:35:54There was just me

00:35:55It was the days of NSYNC

00:35:58And Backstreet Boys

00:35:59And I was not a closet fan

00:36:02I was an overt advocate

00:36:04He was doing like

00:36:06Backup singing for Rebecca

00:36:07And he was starting

00:36:09To have his own like

00:36:10Persona

00:36:11You know he had like

00:36:11His own suit on

00:36:12And he was doing like

00:36:13His own moves

00:36:14And I remember thinking

00:36:15Oh okay

00:36:16Joel's got

00:36:16He's got some flair

00:36:18We would play these really terrible music videos

00:36:21Of Backstreet Boys

00:36:22And we were kind of the stars

00:36:24Of our youth group

00:36:25At about 16 he came to David

00:36:27And he said

00:36:28I want to perform

00:36:29I feel like God's calling me

00:36:31To do music

00:36:32David said

00:36:33Okay yeah

00:36:34Write some songs

00:36:35Get together

00:36:36I'll set up some writing appointments

00:36:38Let's make some music

00:36:39I created my own little EP

00:36:43Called Joel

00:36:45And I always loved the cemetery

00:36:46Because the J and the L

00:36:48Were like really balanced

00:36:49Something about music

00:36:52Really impacted him

00:36:53He was entranced by it

00:36:54And then we need

00:36:56To see

00:36:57More freely

00:36:59Our hearts

00:37:00To feel more

00:37:02Free

00:37:02To be

00:37:04To be

00:37:06Who we really are

00:37:08And I just thought

00:37:10Well that's that

00:37:11You know

00:37:12Here comes

00:37:13Super stardom

00:37:16So I took

00:37:20The demo around

00:37:21A lot of people in town

00:37:22No one's interested

00:37:23It's just crickets

00:37:25David actually had

00:37:27The very unenviable job

00:37:29Of being a dad

00:37:30And going to Joel

00:37:31And say

00:37:32It's just not good enough

00:37:33And so I went to him

00:37:42And I said

00:37:42I don't think

00:37:44This solo thing

00:37:44Is going to work too well

00:37:45Joel

00:37:45Going by

00:37:46Early response

00:37:48I think you've got to

00:37:50Consider something else

00:37:51What about

00:37:52Experimenting with your brother

00:37:54And Joel did not

00:37:56Wish to hear that

00:37:56He wanted

00:37:57To do it on his own

00:37:59The idea of

00:38:01Joel and I

00:38:01Working together

00:38:02Dad had been saying it

00:38:03For years

00:38:04Luke and I

00:38:05Didn't get along

00:38:05At all

00:38:06It kind of annoyed each other

00:38:08Pushed each other's buttons

00:38:10And he grew taller than me

00:38:12Which was very frustrating

00:38:13As an older brother

00:38:14He was a better vocalist

00:38:16Than me

00:38:17I loved to beat my brothers

00:38:20That was something

00:38:21That I enjoyed

00:38:22I at a pretty young age

00:38:24Could beat him

00:38:24At most sports

00:38:26Which

00:38:30Which in our family

00:38:32Didn't go over very well

00:38:33Because it was kind of like

00:38:34You're older than him

00:38:35You lost to Luke

00:38:36It was always that type of stuff

00:38:37The only thing I had

00:38:38Apart from him

00:38:40Was just raw

00:38:41Will and tenacity

00:38:43That was my gift

00:38:44And so dad

00:38:46Said

00:38:47I think you should partner with Luke

00:38:48And I said no

00:38:48Luke was playing basketball

00:38:52And he was really set on it

00:38:54I'd done all the training camps

00:38:56And everything my junior year

00:38:57And it came to the first game

00:38:59I was playing great

00:39:00And I went up for a rebound

00:39:04And came down

00:39:04And I tore my ACL

00:39:06And that was a big

00:39:08Pivotal moment for me

00:39:09In my life

00:39:10It changed the course

00:39:12Of kind of everything

00:39:14I had gone to mom

00:39:16And I said mom

00:39:17You know everybody in the family

00:39:18Kind of has their thing

00:39:19You know sports was my thing

00:39:21I don't have my thing anymore

00:39:22And you know

00:39:22You know what do I do

00:39:24Once again dad has sort of

00:39:27Tried to wear me down

00:39:29Like you should just do a song with Luke

00:39:30Like poor fella

00:39:31Look at him

00:39:32And maybe

00:39:33Out of sympathy

00:39:34Who knows

00:39:35I was like

00:39:35Alright well let's just

00:39:36We'll

00:39:37Write a song

00:39:39We actually played the song live

00:39:53Rebecca St James

00:39:54On one of her later tours

00:39:56Joel was dragging his brother along

00:40:01And resenting it in lots of ways

00:40:03Didn't have a great relationship with him

00:40:05Didn't really respect him

00:40:07He had no experience

00:40:09Writing a song

00:40:13Really performing

00:40:15Singing behind a microphone

00:40:17After that Luke and I

00:40:20For about five years

00:40:21Just wrote awful music

00:40:23We wanted to play a snippet for you

00:40:26Let's know what you think

00:40:28Nobody wanted to have anything to do with us

00:40:50You know we were not successful at all

00:40:52It was so bad

00:40:54He was working at a call centre

00:41:09I was living in mum and dad's basement

00:41:11I had a 1987 Oldsmobile

00:41:16That I named Old Betsy

00:41:18I put chrome hubcaps on it

00:41:19And illegal tints that I had to take off

00:41:22It was a strange time

00:41:23Those years were difficult

00:41:32I remember one month

00:41:34That I had like $10 left in my bank account

00:41:36And that was just the way it was

00:41:39We signed a development deal

00:41:43With the only guy in town

00:41:45That really saw anything in us

00:41:46A guy named Sean Shankle

00:41:47Okay so Sean

00:41:49Our producer just showed up

00:41:51With the keyboard player

00:41:52And we're going to go

00:41:53And we're going to go and say hi

00:41:55And the whole idea was

00:41:58That we were going to sign to Sean

00:42:00Doing some production development

00:42:01For six months

00:42:03For six months

00:42:04That was a budget

00:42:05We were going to have a record deal

00:42:06In six months

00:42:07There is no such thing

00:42:09As an overnight success

00:42:10If there indeed is something

00:42:12Or someone that can be considered

00:42:13An overnight success

00:42:14Then their success

00:42:16Is probably going to be

00:42:17About that long too

00:42:18The way that we saw things going

00:42:20And what actually happened

00:42:21I mean was just so far from reality

00:42:24I remember meeting David Smallbone

00:42:27He brought me The Deep

00:42:30Was the name of it

00:42:31And that was Joel and Luke's

00:42:34First band name iteration

00:42:35And it was an EP of four songs

00:42:39And I didn't like any of it

00:42:42Except for the first verse

00:42:51Of the first song

00:42:52I remember thinking

00:43:07I think there's something special

00:43:08Hidden inside of this

00:43:09We became his pet project

00:43:12And the amount of hours

00:43:14He poured in

00:43:15And time and resource

00:43:16You couldn't put a price tag on

00:43:19And it was

00:43:22Everything development

00:43:24Should have been

00:43:25It was awful

00:43:26It was rewarding

00:43:28Sean was good and bad for me

00:43:31He was good for me

00:43:32Because he pushed me to be better

00:43:33But he was

00:43:35He could be pretty tough

00:43:36And I kind of needed that

00:43:38I remember him going

00:43:42To the studio

00:43:42Saying hey

00:43:43You should try sing differently

00:43:44Which was hard for me to hear

00:43:47He taught me how to write songs

00:43:49He taught me how to sing

00:43:50In front of a mic

00:43:51Can you do Luke?

00:43:54I'm there

00:43:54You recording?

00:43:55Don't lean down too much

00:43:56Here we go

00:43:57It's boss

00:43:58You ready Frank?

00:43:58Yep

00:43:59They would write

00:44:00And write

00:44:01And produce

00:44:02And produce

00:44:02Goodbye

00:44:03To holding on to what could be

00:44:06Half cry

00:44:07But every tear has set

00:44:09You're free

00:44:10I'm not wait

00:44:11And all that is left to say

00:44:13Is goodbye

00:44:14I love you but this is

00:44:16Goodbye

00:44:18To something that just could be kept

00:44:21And it's time

00:44:22To cut the strings

00:44:23And start to accept

00:44:24I'm okay

00:44:25And all that is left to say

00:44:28Is goodbye

00:44:29I love you but this is

00:44:31Goodbye

00:44:32No, no, no

00:44:36Not there, not there, not there

00:44:37But they just kept at it

00:44:42You know, they don't stop

00:44:43There were times during that

00:44:48Where my wife would look at me

00:44:49And say

00:44:50Why are you doing this?

00:44:51This is going nowhere

00:44:52There was every chance

00:44:53That Joel and Luke

00:44:55Were investing in something

00:44:57That was a pipe dream

00:44:58There was every chance

00:45:00That Luke was just going to

00:45:01Keep working at this call center

00:45:03And Joel was just going to

00:45:03Keep road managing

00:45:04And that was kind of

00:45:06Going to be it

00:45:06They just

00:45:09What felt at the time

00:45:10They lacked authenticity

00:45:11You have to really

00:45:13Find where the struggle is

00:45:15Because I believe

00:45:17That that is what people

00:45:18Connect with

00:45:19And artists

00:45:20I felt if they could get

00:45:26To that real honest center

00:45:28That they could make an impact

00:45:30On the world around them

00:45:31I remember sitting down

00:45:37With Joel saying

00:45:39Okay, we've been doing

00:45:40All this work

00:45:40And I think we've got

00:45:41Some songs we can start

00:45:42To, you know, show

00:45:44But you're going to

00:45:45Have to perform

00:45:45I remember him saying

00:45:47Don't worry about that

00:45:49We got that

00:45:49We grew up our whole lives

00:45:50Doing that

00:45:50And I felt nervous

00:45:53Thank you very much

00:45:59Well, good evening everybody

00:46:01I'm Joel from Joel and Luke

00:46:04Joel and Luke

00:46:06Together, man

00:46:07Joel and Luke

00:46:08I do remember that show

00:46:12Very, very well

00:46:13It was friends and family

00:46:15And about every string

00:46:16We could pull

00:46:17To give off the perception

00:46:18That, yeah

00:46:20There's something

00:46:20Really happening here

00:46:21Like, this is really impressive

00:46:23And I think it works

00:46:24Kind of

00:46:24Shall we dance?

00:46:27Can we take a little moment

00:46:30To grow closer?

00:46:33We have like an intermission

00:46:34And Sean came in the back

00:46:36And he said

00:46:37We felt like it had gone pretty well

00:46:38And we felt like it had gone very well

00:46:39Yeah

00:46:40And he looked at me

00:46:41And he goes

00:46:41Hey, so guys

00:46:42Um, um

00:46:43Luke

00:46:44Uh, wow

00:46:44Can you hear yourself?

00:46:53And I thought

00:46:54This is mediocre at best

00:46:56You were trying to say

00:46:58This to the people

00:46:59That you'd been working on music

00:47:00For years

00:47:01Like

00:47:01This hasn't been in vain

00:47:03It did have the feeling of

00:47:05We're failures

00:47:06Like, we're failing

00:47:07Right now

00:47:07And so then that

00:47:17Started the next journey

00:47:18What instruments

00:47:20Can we play?

00:47:21And at first

00:47:22It was

00:47:22What instruments

00:47:23Can we fake?

00:47:24We kind of actually

00:47:25Started looking at the things

00:47:26That we could do

00:47:26And I was like

00:47:27Well, I can kind of

00:47:28Play a little bit of drums

00:47:29And that's when

00:47:30That's when we actually

00:47:31Started using a lot of drums

00:47:33On stage

00:47:33Because it was

00:47:34One of the only things

00:47:35That I could do

00:47:36We fought a lot over this

00:47:38It was like

00:47:39I wanted Luke

00:47:39To take guitar lessons

00:47:40Learn how to play the guitar

00:47:41Joel could play the piano

00:47:43And he was getting better at it

00:47:44And he would practice

00:47:44And then he would get mad

00:47:45At Luke for not doing anything

00:47:47Did you hear something?

00:47:48I did

00:47:48It's Luke

00:47:49We got him locked

00:47:49From the local wood

00:47:50Oh

00:47:51I have to leave

00:47:52And it's 201

00:47:53The little does he know

00:47:55We're keeping him locked

00:47:56In here for the next

00:47:57Four to five days

00:47:58Come on

00:47:58Four to five days

00:48:00Forty-five days

00:48:02Forty-five days

00:48:03I remember having

00:48:04A conversation with Luke

00:48:06And saying to him

00:48:08You need to decide

00:48:09If you're in or out

00:48:10Because

00:48:11You're not

00:48:13Contributing enough

00:48:14You're not pulling your weight

00:48:15It doesn't feel like

00:48:16Your heart is in this

00:48:17See Luke always bails on us

00:48:19A great source

00:48:21Of my frustration

00:48:22With Luke

00:48:23Was

00:48:24Him not

00:48:25Really leaning in

00:48:27And for better or for worse

00:48:28I was all in

00:48:29Joel

00:48:30As sharp as his jawline

00:48:32Okay

00:48:32Is his commitment

00:48:34To all of the things

00:48:36That make for

00:48:36King and country go

00:48:37Luke

00:48:38His hair is a representation

00:48:40Of his personality

00:48:41To me

00:48:41It's free

00:48:42It's in the wind

00:48:43He's kind of going

00:48:44With the flow

00:48:44I think you could say

00:48:45I was maybe a little

00:48:46Wishy-washy

00:48:47Luke's proclivity

00:48:48Is if he doesn't go

00:48:50All in

00:48:51Then he doesn't

00:48:52Really quite fail

00:48:53In his mind

00:48:54I think he was going

00:48:55I'll do this

00:48:56And I'll kind of lean in

00:48:57And I'll see what happens

00:48:58But it's kind of

00:49:00Joel's thing

00:49:00And if it doesn't work

00:49:02Then I

00:49:02I don't really care

00:49:04That much

00:49:04Because I'm not really

00:49:05Like

00:49:06I'm not really

00:49:07It makes it

00:49:07He'll pick you up

00:49:08Okay

00:49:08The source of frustration

00:49:11Got so deep for me

00:49:13Along the way

00:49:14That there were

00:49:16Certainly moments

00:49:18That going

00:49:18What am I doing?

00:49:19Like this has been

00:49:20Fun and good

00:49:21And I like having him

00:49:22As kind of a

00:49:23Little sidekick

00:49:25But I remember

00:49:26Even specifically

00:49:27When it started

00:49:28Getting more serious

00:49:28Going to people

00:49:29And being like

00:49:29Hey

00:49:30Luke shouldn't get

00:49:31Equal percentage

00:49:32In this band

00:49:33Right?

00:49:34He came to me

00:49:35And said

00:49:37Hey

00:49:37So we're going to

00:49:37Work on this

00:49:38Thing together

00:49:38See I

00:49:39I've done this

00:49:40A little bit

00:49:40Longer than you

00:49:41I've worked

00:49:42A little bit

00:49:43Harder than you

00:49:44On this

00:49:44What about

00:49:45We do 60-40

00:49:46And I was like

00:49:48What?

00:49:50I can't do that

00:49:51My brother's

00:49:53A tough personality

00:49:55He and I

00:49:56Fought a lot

00:49:57In those early days

00:49:58And it was

00:49:58Usually over ego

00:49:59And there was

00:50:01A lot of

00:50:02Frustration

00:50:03And a lot of

00:50:05A lot of arguments

00:50:06We fought a lot

00:50:07Fast forward

00:50:08Probably about

00:50:09Four or five years

00:50:10Though I got out

00:50:11Of the music business

00:50:12Right after around

00:50:13That first record came

00:50:14Joel drove me out

00:50:15I don't have

00:50:16Great fun memories

00:50:17Of that time

00:50:18It got really complicated

00:50:21There was this

00:50:22Sense of

00:50:23Well who's going to

00:50:25Call it

00:50:25When's the penny

00:50:26Going to drop

00:50:26I think if Joel

00:50:31Had to come to me

00:50:31At one point

00:50:32And said I'm out

00:50:33There may have been

00:50:34Pushback

00:50:34But I may have gone

00:50:35Okay I mean

00:50:36You know I kind of get it

00:50:37You know it's been

00:50:38Pretty hard

00:50:39And we haven't really

00:50:40We haven't really

00:50:41Done anything

00:50:42Because I don't think

00:50:43At that time

00:50:44Luke saw it

00:50:46As his

00:50:47Lifelong

00:50:48Job

00:50:50There was something

00:50:51In him

00:50:52I think that believed

00:50:53That his presence

00:50:54Didn't matter

00:50:55And he would

00:50:56Say to me

00:50:57A lot

00:50:57But if you think

00:50:59This is not

00:51:00The right path

00:51:00For me

00:51:01Or like

00:51:02Who are we kidding

00:51:03Like tell me

00:51:04Like almost tell me

00:51:05To be done

00:51:06We had to break through

00:51:14That as a writer

00:51:15And really find his voice

00:51:16First song I ever wrote

00:51:27That I was proud of

00:51:28Was a song called

00:51:30Crave

00:51:30And it was a song

00:51:32That I just wrote

00:51:32With Sean

00:51:33It came out

00:51:35Of a direct exercise

00:51:36That I had him do

00:51:37To try to get

00:51:38Into some pain

00:51:39And into some

00:51:40Compassion

00:51:41And into some

00:51:42Empathy

00:51:42And we'd been

00:51:43Studying lyrics

00:51:44And I was

00:51:46Looking at

00:51:46A U2 song

00:51:48And I was like

00:51:48Man at the end of the day

00:51:49Like we all crave hope

00:51:51Like look at these lyrics

00:51:52And immediately

00:51:53He was like

00:51:54That's a song I do

00:51:56That's what we were

00:52:01Always trying to find

00:52:02It was like

00:52:03Luke is turning a corner

00:52:05And becoming an artist

00:52:06Hope is what we crave

00:52:08And that will never change

00:52:11I kind of came to the conclusion

00:52:19That I wasn't going to do this

00:52:21One foot in

00:52:21One foot out

00:52:22Where I was like

00:52:23I got to give it everything

00:52:24To find out

00:52:25What this actually looks like

00:52:26As a result

00:52:30With him showing up

00:52:31His voice

00:52:32Has been a really important

00:52:34And crucial part

00:52:35Of

00:52:36For King Country

00:52:37Really the heart

00:52:37In some ways

00:52:38And we had spent

00:53:00That first year and a half

00:53:01Two years

00:53:01Working on their songs

00:53:03And we were getting there

00:53:05So then what we needed to do

00:53:07Was just start booking

00:53:08Our first showcases

00:53:10We would fly out to LA

00:53:12And Nashville

00:53:12And perform

00:53:14For different labels

00:53:14We played showcases

00:53:17For all the major record labels

00:53:19In America

00:53:19You know

00:53:20Showcase after showcase

00:53:21Warner Brothers

00:53:22Universal

00:53:23We did one for Sony

00:53:24They always sort of

00:53:27Saw some of the interest

00:53:28They saw some of the uniqueness

00:53:29But didn't see

00:53:30What they felt like was

00:53:31We're really going to

00:53:32Connect with people

00:53:33They're always looking

00:53:34For something quite narrow

00:53:37And you kind of got to be

00:53:40Right in that lane

00:53:41Joel and Luke

00:53:42Were so artsy

00:53:43I just wasn't sure

00:53:45That was going to happen

00:53:46But

00:53:48We had this shining beacon

00:53:50Of hope

00:53:51We had gotten this call

00:53:55From Atlantic Records

00:53:56In New York

00:53:57That we were

00:53:59Going to have the opportunity

00:54:00To play a showcase

00:54:00For their president

00:54:02And a few of their A&R folks

00:54:04Going up there

00:54:06With this like

00:54:07We're going to go

00:54:08And conquer the world

00:54:09In one of the great cities

00:54:10In America

00:54:10We thought we'd made it

00:54:13We rented a bus

00:54:15We were on a tour bus

00:54:17And we had rented a club

00:54:20And we brought our brother

00:54:21Daniel

00:54:21Did our lighting

00:54:22Like we had stacked the deck

00:54:24We were like

00:54:25Man we're good to go

00:54:26They walked in

00:54:28We were so nervous

00:54:29Great sky

00:54:37Tear in your eye

00:54:39Giving the light

00:54:40While the world

00:54:41Is watching

00:54:41Oh no

00:54:42Pull at your soul

00:54:44Say it's just a game

00:54:46Oh it's making me crazy

00:54:49Trying to save me

00:54:50Stay with the baby

00:54:51Wake up

00:54:53Staring for some

00:54:54Don't forget your name

00:54:56Welcome to a brand new world

00:54:59When no one knows

00:55:00A name

00:55:01A name

00:55:02Cutting you

00:55:04Through the static

00:55:05Static

00:55:06All I remember afterwards

00:55:13Was the evacuation

00:55:15It was like

00:55:16These people are out

00:55:18Like hardcore out

00:55:19They don't give a rip

00:55:20It was a low moment

00:55:25I remember riding back

00:55:27On the tour bus

00:55:29Crawling into the bunk

00:55:34And the sinking feeling

00:55:37Of like

00:55:38Is this the beginning

00:55:40Of the end

00:55:40I remember calling

00:55:42Mariah

00:55:43Knowing

00:55:45That I really wanted

00:55:46To marry this girl

00:55:47And just this feeling

00:55:48Of like

00:55:48What

00:55:48What am I going to do

00:55:50Like

00:55:50Where do I go from here

00:55:52I don't know if she knew

00:55:54It on the call

00:55:54But I remember crying

00:55:55I think that was

00:55:57One of the first times

00:55:58I remember

00:55:59Seeing this man

00:56:00That I thought

00:56:01Was very

00:56:02Indestructible

00:56:03And

00:56:03Just a

00:56:04Force

00:56:05I saw a crack

00:56:06I saw

00:56:07Rejection

00:56:08And pain

00:56:09Wondering

00:56:12If everything

00:56:13He had just

00:56:14Invested in

00:56:15And believed in

00:56:16Was all for nothing

00:56:17I think from the beginning

00:56:20I had

00:56:21Maybe more belief

00:56:22In him

00:56:23Than he had

00:56:24In himself

00:56:25He would ask me

00:56:26How can you be

00:56:27Confident

00:56:27That this will work

00:56:28I just

00:56:30Think it will

00:56:31Something special

00:56:32Is developing

00:56:33And this is

00:56:34What you're

00:56:35Supposed to do

00:56:36I just felt like

00:56:40It was important

00:56:41For him to know

00:56:42That no matter

00:56:43What the circumstances

00:56:44Looked like

00:56:45He was going to

00:56:46Make it

00:56:47That something

00:56:48Was going to click

00:56:49And it was just

00:56:49About the right timing

00:56:50And the right opportunity

00:56:51Yeah I've just

00:56:56Always believed

00:56:57I just knew

00:56:58It was going to happen

00:56:59Without Mariah's

00:57:04Belief in me

00:57:06Courtney's

00:57:07In Luke

00:57:07It just wouldn't

00:57:09Have happened

00:57:10Nothing's going to

00:57:11Take me down

00:57:13Nothing's going to

00:57:15Take me down

00:57:17Nothing's going to

00:57:19Take me down

00:57:20Today

00:57:21She believes in me

00:57:30She believes in me

00:57:38There was no going

00:57:42Back at that point

00:57:43It was such a

00:57:46Vulnerable

00:57:46Time

00:57:48Because everything

00:57:50Was hanging in the

00:57:50Balance

00:57:51We were really

00:57:56Able to

00:57:57Rally

00:57:58It was thick or thin

00:58:01We were going to

00:58:02Make it through

00:58:02And so we get back

00:58:05The dust kind of

00:58:05Settles and

00:58:06Just go right back

00:58:07At music

00:58:08Writing songs

00:58:09And trying again

00:58:11There were these

00:58:15Moments when we

00:58:15Think this is

00:58:16This is going to

00:58:17Work

00:58:17And at first

00:58:19They were few

00:58:19And far between

00:58:20But then they

00:58:20Started getting

00:58:21Closer together

00:58:22Slowly

00:58:23And then

00:58:26Mark Bright

00:58:26Took over word

00:58:27One day we're

00:58:29At the studio

00:58:30And a guy named

00:58:30Mark Bright

00:58:31Called and said

00:58:32I've heard some

00:58:33Of your music

00:58:34I want to sign you

00:58:36I was just

00:58:39Completely floored

00:58:41By the music

00:58:41I really decided

00:58:43In that moment

00:58:43That I'm going to

00:58:44Sign this band

00:58:45I don't care who

00:58:46Has passed on it

00:58:47I don't care about

00:58:49Anything

00:58:49I love it

00:58:50I said okay

00:58:51I need to meet the

00:58:53Manager

00:58:53David was like

00:58:55A lion in the

00:58:57Protective aspect

00:58:58Of it

00:58:58Making sure

00:59:01That this thing

00:59:02Would succeed

00:59:03And that they

00:59:04Would get the

00:59:04Right deal

00:59:05The right situation

00:59:06Be around

00:59:07The right people

00:59:07About to head upstairs

00:59:11And sign the next

00:59:13Decade of our lives

00:59:15Like

00:59:15Exciting but

00:59:18Nervous

00:59:19I think that

00:59:23There's this feeling

00:59:24From a lot of

00:59:24Young bands

00:59:25That if you can

00:59:26Get the record deal

00:59:27That you've arrived

00:59:28I think because

00:59:29Of our experience

00:59:30With Rebecca

00:59:30We knew that

00:59:32When you get the

00:59:32Record deal

00:59:33That's just the

00:59:33Beginning

00:59:34We had to figure

00:59:37Out a band name

00:59:37Because nobody

00:59:38Liked Joel and Luke

00:59:39Who wanted to go

00:59:40With Joel and Luke

00:59:41For days we were

00:59:42Just running through

00:59:43They would come

00:59:44With these big

00:59:44Lists of band names

00:59:45I mean every

00:59:46Road sign

00:59:47Every newspaper

00:59:49Article

00:59:49Every word I would

00:59:51See would become

00:59:52A potential band name

00:59:53Originally when

00:59:56Luke and I

00:59:57Started working

00:59:57Together

00:59:58Or writing together

00:59:59People would call us

01:00:00The boys

01:00:01And we

01:00:02We had a bit

01:00:03Of a problem with it

01:00:04We didn't really like it

01:00:05So we sat down

01:00:05At this meeting

01:00:06And we thought

01:00:07We're gonna come up

01:00:07With some band names

01:00:08I came up

01:00:09With the idea

01:00:09Of calling us

01:00:11All the king's men

01:00:12Like the Humpty Dumpty

01:00:13All the king's horses

01:00:15And all the king's men

01:00:16Didn't really have

01:00:17The right tone to it

01:00:18So our producer

01:00:19Said

01:00:20No

01:00:21It's for king and country

01:00:22You are for king

01:00:24For god

01:00:24For country

01:00:25For people

01:00:26It is you

01:00:27So from this time out

01:00:28We're gonna be called

01:00:29For king and country

01:00:30The live show

01:00:55Has always been

01:00:56One of our favorite

01:00:57Things to do

01:00:58It's been one of our

01:00:58Strengths

01:00:59And so

01:00:59It was always

01:01:00The label's always like

01:01:01If we can get you

01:01:02In front of people

01:01:02If we can get you

01:01:03In front of people

01:01:03Well winter jam

01:01:04Is that ticket

01:01:04So the first thing

01:01:06That I ever heard

01:01:07Was them on winter jam

01:01:09What I thought

01:01:10They did so brilliantly

01:01:11Was they gave you

01:01:13No reasons

01:01:14To not love their show

01:01:15Something special

01:01:17Happened when

01:01:17For king and country

01:01:18Got on stage

01:01:18Even if they

01:01:20Weren't headlining

01:01:21Everybody walked away

01:01:23From the show

01:01:23Like

01:01:23They probably

01:01:25Should have though

01:01:26They had all the drums

01:01:29And all the drama

01:01:30And all the

01:01:31King Arthur of Camelot

01:01:33Stuff

01:01:33There is no reason

01:01:35Not to love this

01:01:36It's just so

01:01:38Exciting

01:01:39Winter jam

01:01:41Is a

01:01:42Sort of plug and play show

01:01:43You do the same show

01:01:45Every night

01:01:46For three months

01:01:47It wasn't like that

01:01:49For them

01:01:49And every night

01:01:50Was a new group

01:01:51Of people

01:01:51Where can we tweak

01:01:52This just if it's

01:01:53A percent more

01:01:54To be better

01:01:55Than it was last night

01:01:56And I watched them

01:01:57Do that consistently

01:01:58Okay we're practicing

01:02:00About to go out

01:02:02And visit the people

01:02:03Waiting in line

01:02:04For the winter jam experience

01:02:06This is Boston Haan

01:02:07And so from about

01:02:17Like 3pm

01:02:19Till almost midnight

01:02:20We were doing

01:02:21Some kind of

01:02:22Show like thing

01:02:23For winter jam

01:02:23We really celebrated

01:02:26That moment

01:02:27Because it felt like

01:02:29The belief

01:02:31And the hope

01:02:31And the investment

01:02:33That everyone made

01:02:35Is becoming something

01:02:36They were all hands

01:02:40On deck

01:02:40In that season

01:02:41I was pregnant

01:02:42With our first child

01:02:43Jude

01:02:43We had two

01:02:4515 passenger seat vans

01:02:47One had a hole

01:02:49In it

01:02:49So that was exciting

01:02:50There is a certain

01:02:52Drive you have to have

01:02:54Or you more than likely

01:02:55Are never going to make it

01:02:56You're going to have

01:02:58To get in the van

01:02:59And you're going to have

01:02:59To drive the van

01:03:00Yourself all night long

01:03:01And then you're going

01:03:02To have to show up

01:03:03At that radio station

01:03:03And you don't even

01:03:04Hardly have a voice

01:03:05But you are there

01:03:06To do whatever you can do

01:03:08Because you don't think

01:03:09You deserve it

01:03:10Nobody could ever say

01:03:11That King and Country

01:03:12Was not willing

01:03:13To put the blood

01:03:14Sweat and tears in

01:03:15And even if they were

01:03:16Their dad wouldn't

01:03:17Have let them

01:03:17You get out there boys

01:03:21David's not messing around

01:03:23None

01:03:23I remember it was raining

01:03:27And so we put

01:03:28All their show flyers

01:03:29In Ziploc baggies

01:03:30And put them on

01:03:31Car windshields

01:03:32And parking lots

01:03:33And tried to get people

01:03:35To come out to this show

01:03:36And like people

01:03:36Actually showed up

01:03:43We had released a song

01:03:44It was our first single ever

01:03:46And it was a song called

01:03:47Busted Heart

01:03:48We were in New Mexico

01:03:50And people were singing it

01:03:52A little song that I wrote

01:03:54In a tiny little room

01:03:55It had gotten to New Mexico

01:03:56And it meant something to them

01:03:58The first moment I had ever seen

01:04:01A group of people

01:04:02That I wasn't like my family

01:04:03Sing my songs

01:04:05I just want to hear this band

01:04:07On the radio

01:04:08Because if people are going to get it

01:04:10They're really going to get it

01:04:11And you know they did

01:04:13People got it

01:04:15So we released the first record

01:04:20And kind of charge

01:04:22Into the music world

01:04:24And at that point

01:04:24It had been seven years

01:04:26Of development

01:04:27And there was so much

01:04:29Kind of triumph

01:04:31This was the result

01:04:37Of many years

01:04:39Of faithfulness

01:04:41Hard work

01:04:41Strategy

01:04:42And execution

01:04:43That even proceeded

01:04:44For King of Country

01:04:45It was a great tour

01:05:06It was a lot of stress

01:05:08For Luke

01:05:08Midway through that tour

01:05:10He started feeling ill

01:05:12He started losing weight

01:05:14We were doing a lot of crazy hours

01:05:16Of like driving

01:05:18Till three in the morning

01:05:20Napping in a hotel

01:05:21For two hours

01:05:22Getting back in

01:05:23You know

01:05:24The food's not great

01:05:24At gas stations

01:05:25But it kept getting

01:05:26Progressively worse

01:05:28I think I tried to pretend

01:05:30As if it wasn't real

01:05:31You know

01:05:32It's kind of like

01:05:32I've seen some symptoms

01:05:33Of my body's not quite right

01:05:35But I just

01:05:35It was like

01:05:35Man you just tough it out

01:05:37And you just keep going

01:05:37I had my wedding day

01:05:40And he was

01:05:41Skin and bones

01:05:43And this contrast

01:05:48Of that

01:05:49I found my life partner

01:05:51And I'm so happy

01:05:52To be married to her

01:05:52And then my

01:05:53You know

01:05:54My brother

01:05:54And my vocational partner

01:05:56Is not wanting

01:05:57To steal anything

01:05:58But is just

01:05:59Deeply unwell

01:06:00And we'd fought through

01:06:02So much at this point

01:06:03And it was finally clicking

01:06:05And I was like

01:06:06I'm getting married

01:06:07And you're married

01:06:08And you just have

01:06:09Your new child

01:06:10And you're

01:06:11Really ill

01:06:13Joel was still on a honeymoon

01:06:17And

01:06:19Luke's wife calls us

01:06:23And says

01:06:24I don't know what to do

01:06:28Luke won't eat

01:06:29Technically I still have

01:06:31A disease called

01:06:31Ulcerative colitis

01:06:32So sick

01:06:39I got down to about

01:06:40125 pounds

01:06:41And I

01:06:41I stopped weighing myself

01:06:43After that

01:06:43Because it was so depressing

01:06:44My hair was falling out

01:06:46Because it just was

01:06:47That

01:06:47Malnourished

01:06:49The doctor

01:06:50Was frightened

01:06:51When he saw him

01:06:52And said

01:06:52You

01:06:53You get so weak

01:06:54Your muscles get so weak

01:06:55At that point

01:06:56That your heart

01:06:57You go to cardiac arrest

01:06:58His heart

01:07:01Was just going crazy

01:07:02All the time

01:07:03I would just

01:07:04Be in bed

01:07:05And pray

01:07:06Lord

01:07:06Cover his heart

01:07:07Tonight

01:07:07Like let everything

01:07:08Keep working

01:07:09And I stayed with them

01:07:12For three weeks

01:07:12Just cooking meals

01:07:14And supporting

01:07:14In whatever way

01:07:15I could

01:07:16And that held us

01:07:17Through that

01:07:18Very scary time

01:07:19We went to

01:07:21Luke and Courtney's house

01:07:23Luke

01:07:24Weighing less than me

01:07:25At that time

01:07:26Was just so

01:07:28So fragile

01:07:30Jude started crying

01:07:33And Luke

01:07:34Wanted to comfort

01:07:37His own son

01:07:38But he was too weak

01:07:39To pick him up

01:07:40I kind of dragged him

01:07:42Across the bed

01:07:43And really struggled

01:07:44To just

01:07:45Get his baby

01:07:47Into his arms

01:07:47So he could hold him

01:07:48He was bedridden

01:07:51And couldn't even

01:07:52Go on walks

01:07:54Outside the home

01:07:54There was family members

01:07:56That were having dreams

01:07:56About him dying

01:07:58I mean it was just

01:07:59Extremely sobering

01:08:00Extremely sobering

01:08:01He was

01:08:03Really death warmed up

01:08:04And we didn't know

01:08:06What the future was

01:08:07For the first time

01:08:10In raising our family

01:08:12Both David and I

01:08:13Actually had to

01:08:14Contemplate

01:08:15That this may be

01:08:16A terminal illness

01:08:17That we might lose him

01:08:18And it's not a

01:08:19Not a place

01:08:20Any parent should need

01:08:21Should visit

01:08:22It's a hard place

01:08:24But it was

01:08:27An intense

01:08:28Few months

01:08:29Of just

01:08:30Around the clock

01:08:31Care

01:08:31And around the clock

01:08:32Worrying

01:08:34You know

01:08:35You never

01:08:35You never quite

01:08:36Plan for a moment

01:08:37When

01:08:38The person that you

01:08:40Love the most

01:08:41Says to you

01:08:41You know

01:08:43Just don't leave me

01:08:44And um

01:08:45And you know

01:08:47You say the things

01:08:48That you

01:08:48You can say

01:08:50And that is

01:08:50You know

01:08:52It's going to be okay

01:08:52I'm going to be fine

01:08:53And I didn't know

01:08:55If it was going to be okay

01:08:56I don't want to live

01:09:01Without you

01:09:04I'm not ready to live

01:09:08Without you

01:09:11So let's dance a little

01:09:15Laugh a little

01:09:17And hope a little more

01:09:19And yes let's dance a little

01:09:22Laugh a little

01:09:23And hope a little more

01:09:26Cause I don't want to live

01:09:28Without you

01:09:31Without you

01:09:35So I flew to a performance

01:09:46Where

01:09:47We played

01:09:49For the first time ever

01:09:51Without

01:09:51My brother

01:09:52And I got my wish

01:09:56Like I was

01:09:56I was in the stadium

01:09:57Doing the show

01:09:59Without him

01:10:00I was tuned in

01:10:03Live

01:10:04Watching that performance

01:10:04I remember that feeling

01:10:07Very very clearly

01:10:08The road does provide

01:10:10Some sort of like

01:10:11Band of brothers

01:10:12Mentality

01:10:12You know

01:10:13You're meant to be there

01:10:14And I couldn't be

01:10:15It was a strange night

01:10:20Performing

01:10:22Without him

01:10:24Knowing

01:10:25That he was actually watching

01:10:28It is brilliant to be here

01:10:31With you tonight

01:10:32It's a bit of a sad day for us

01:10:35As some of you might know

01:10:36My little brother Luke

01:10:38Who makes up the other part

01:10:40Of the king and country

01:10:41Is absent this evening

01:10:43He is ill

01:10:44We ask for your prayers

01:10:46And your support

01:10:48He actually turned away

01:10:49From the TV

01:10:51It kind of wept

01:10:52As a younger brother

01:10:53You still want

01:10:54Your older brother's approval

01:10:55And so

01:10:56I could see that

01:10:58I meant something to him

01:11:00And I could see

01:11:01A void on stage

01:11:02And it was

01:11:05The great solidifier

01:11:06Of our partnership

01:11:07Because I was like

01:11:08I don't want this

01:11:09All those years

01:11:12Of

01:11:13I didn't choose this

01:11:15I didn't want this

01:11:16To this place of going

01:11:19Not only do I want him here

01:11:22But I need him here

01:11:24Set everything aside

01:11:25Set family of origin aside

01:11:27Set our history aside

01:11:29Let's choose each other

01:11:32And we did that night

01:11:33Not only I think

01:11:40Relationally was that

01:11:41Moment in 2013

01:11:43The great solidifier

01:11:44For Luke and I

01:11:45But I actually think

01:11:47It was a great solidifier

01:11:48As artists

01:11:49Because

01:11:51Pain will find us all

01:11:54In life

01:11:54Suffering will find us all

01:11:55But for us

01:11:56In our dynamic

01:11:58Of childhood

01:11:59And growing up

01:12:01We had not been

01:12:02The frontrunner

01:12:04Of pain and suffering

01:12:05That was mum and dad

01:12:06And

01:12:07I think in many ways

01:12:09It gave us

01:12:09A song to sing

01:12:11We locked in

01:12:14As partners

01:12:15And as brothers

01:12:16We started to see

01:12:19Who each other was

01:12:20Individually

01:12:21It was the beginning

01:12:23Of this deep well

01:12:25Gushing forth

01:12:28And their music

01:12:29That was it

01:12:30That was when

01:12:31It started to blossom

01:12:32It was shocking

01:12:33To see it go

01:12:34So quickly

01:12:34It just almost

01:12:35Never happens

01:12:36The Lord

01:12:37Used all of that

01:12:38Hard work

01:12:38And gave them

01:12:39A much larger platform

01:12:41Please welcome

01:12:42For King and Country

01:12:43Knowing that I'm

01:12:44Very excited about it

01:12:45And I'm looking forward

01:12:47This song just came

01:12:48Through my office

01:12:49And they started

01:12:50Playing it

01:12:50And I went

01:12:50I can't believe it

01:12:52I thought it was

01:12:53One of the best songs

01:12:54I'd ever heard

01:12:54For King and Country

01:12:56Has reached number one

01:12:57On both billboard

01:12:58And Christian charts

01:12:59For King and Country

01:13:01Have exceeded

01:13:02Their wildest dreams

01:13:03With a chance

01:13:03To take home

01:13:04Two Grammys

01:13:05On Sunday

01:13:05The Grammy goes to

01:13:08God Only Knows

01:13:09No matter how hard

01:13:17Those trials

01:13:18You might face

01:13:18Might be

01:13:19There is always hope

01:13:20And that's the reason

01:13:22Why

01:13:22We do music

01:13:24Joel and Luke Smallbone

01:13:27Are one of the biggest

01:13:28Duos

01:13:29In the music business

01:13:31Two time

01:13:33Grammy award winning

01:13:34Rock group

01:13:34For King and Country

01:13:35For King and Country

01:13:37For King and Country

01:13:38Let's go

01:13:39It's just a sweet

01:13:46Triumph for everyone

01:13:47For their family

01:13:49For the band

01:13:50For fans who believe

01:13:52King and Country

01:13:53Have amassed

01:13:53Millions of fans

01:13:54They've scored

01:13:54Four Grammys

01:13:55Four

01:14:22So let them match

01:14:24Leave the post

01:14:25Put the ships

01:14:27And don't shine back

01:14:29And don't shine back

01:14:39Make no mistake

01:14:58This is not just a story

01:15:00About Luke

01:15:01Or me

01:15:02Or the band

01:15:02That we're a part of

01:15:03Not a story

01:15:05About record sales

01:15:06Or tours

01:15:06Accolades

01:15:07Or awards

01:15:08It's a human story

01:15:10About the people

01:15:11That persevered

01:15:12Through struggle

01:15:13Well decades later

01:15:15I saw the boys

01:15:16In one of their concerts

01:15:18As I was watching them

01:15:20Joel said

01:15:21There was a lady named Kay

01:15:23That helped them

01:15:26And I was just sitting there

01:15:27And I just thought

01:15:28Look what God has done

01:15:30Look what God has done

01:15:33It's record label executives

01:15:35And publishers

01:15:36Who gave us a chance

01:15:37When no one else would

01:15:38It's a story of faith

01:15:43That guided and provided

01:15:45During those dark nights

01:15:47And really long days

01:15:48If there's a legacy

01:15:51For Helen's

01:15:52In my life

01:15:53Is that we

01:15:54As a family

01:15:55Have encouraged people

01:15:57To take Jesus seriously

01:15:59It's a story about those

01:16:02Who believed in us

01:16:03And our friends

01:16:04Who showed up

01:16:05At our performances

01:16:06And encouraged us

01:16:06To keep pressing forward

01:16:08Helen, I'm sorry

01:16:11Life through life

01:16:12My hero

01:16:13Life

01:16:13It's a story about our siblings

01:16:16These sisters and brothers

01:16:19Who rolled up their sleeves

01:16:21And rallied

01:16:23To give their gifts

01:16:24And talents

01:16:26And hard work

01:16:27To partner with us

01:16:28For something greater

01:16:29Than themselves

01:16:30It's a story about our wives

01:16:33Courtney

01:16:34A mother

01:16:34Writer

01:16:35Speaker

01:16:36And my darling wife

01:16:38Mariah

01:16:38An actor

01:16:39Producer

01:16:40Latin

01:16:40Country

01:16:41Artist

01:16:41These great women

01:16:43Who stood for us

01:16:44When we could not

01:16:45Stand for ourselves

01:16:46I never dreamed

01:16:52That we would be able

01:16:53To be involved

01:16:54In impacting people's lives

01:16:56As a family

01:16:56Like we have

01:16:57It's only God

01:17:00Who can do that stuff

01:17:01This is not a story

01:17:10About the band

01:17:11We're a part of

01:17:11It's a great story

01:17:14Of a father

01:17:15Who never gave up

01:17:16I saw him as a boy

01:17:18Getting out of bed

01:17:20Every morning

01:17:21When he'd been rejected

01:17:22By everyone in this town

01:17:23To him

01:17:24Believing in his daughter

01:17:26And then believing in us

01:17:28It's a story

01:17:33About a powerful mum

01:17:34Who stood by her husband

01:17:36When it made

01:17:36Absolutely no sense

01:17:38It's a story

01:17:41About our elder sister

01:17:43Who cared for her family

01:17:44And allowed these two

01:17:45Ragamuffin brothers

01:17:47To place behind her

01:17:48On stage

01:17:49To find their own voices

01:17:51To story about her

01:17:52Finding love

01:17:53And a fulfilled dream

01:17:55Of family

01:17:55Using her voice

01:17:56Now stronger and brighter

01:17:58Than ever

01:17:59Alongside her partner

01:18:00Both in life

01:18:01And yes

01:18:01On the stage as well

01:18:02And lastly

01:18:04It is also a story

01:18:06About a pair of brothers

01:18:07Who honestly

01:18:08Didn't quite get along

01:18:09Growing up

01:18:10But chose through

01:18:11Injury, illness

01:18:13Failure and desperation

01:18:14To not only set aside

01:18:16Their differences

01:18:17But to find a common voice

01:18:18In music

01:18:19To band together

01:18:20With no plan B

01:18:22And no turning back

01:18:24I used to be a beggar

01:18:52Down on careless knees

01:18:56Till I got an invitation

01:19:02Into the courts of a king

01:19:06I'm moving on

01:19:11I'm moving on

01:19:12I'm moving on

01:19:14Keep moving

01:19:15I'm moving on

01:19:16I'm moving on

01:19:17I'm moving on

01:19:19You gave me my freedom

01:19:21Now I'm free indeed

01:19:25I'm marching out of the doubt

01:19:31Into trust

01:19:32Out of the me

01:19:33Into us

01:19:34I'm falling head over heels

01:19:40Into love

01:19:41Leaving regret in the dust

01:19:44No turning back

01:19:46No turning back

01:19:49No

01:19:51And if I'm caught in the crossfire

01:19:56I will stand my ground

01:19:59And even if I were to lose my life

01:20:06Your arms are where I'll be found

01:20:10I'm marching out of the doubt

01:20:14Into trust

01:20:15Out of the me

01:20:17Into us

01:20:18I'm falling head over heels

01:20:24Into love

01:20:25Leaving regret in the dust

01:20:28I'm falling head over heels

01:20:29No turning back

01:20:33Oh, oh no

01:20:35Turning back

01:20:38Oh, oh no

01:20:40Turning back

01:20:43Oh, oh no

01:20:45Turning back

01:20:48Oh, oh no

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