00:00On the second point about her being still in power, look, let me say this a couple things.
00:04This is not unprecedented.
00:05I can point to a number of places, Spain, Paraguay, two examples of places in which there.
00:10There was a transition from an autocratic regime to a democratic regime, and it took time.
00:15I can't give you a timeline of how long it takes.
00:17It can't take forever.
00:19It can't.
00:19It's only.
00:20It's not even been four weeks.
00:21It's a year, two.
00:22Well, I think we need to be.
00:23Let me put it to you this way.
00:24We need to be.
00:25Much further along, six months from now, even three months from now.
00:27That may not be satisfactory to you, but I'm saying we.
00:30We have to be much further along, three, four, five months.
00:32Three or four, five months from now cannot look like what today looks like.
00:35And I think there's acknowledgement on both sides of that.
00:37I can probably give you a better answer, and this is not.
00:40Reflecting when we finally have people on the ground, like the ambassador and the team around
00:44her on a daily basis.
00:45Because one thing is for me to pick up the phone and talk to Delcey Rodriguez three times a week.
00:50Another thing is to have someone on the ground on a daily basis that's following these events
00:53is talking to civil society.
00:55But also engaging with interim authorities.
00:58But the fact of the matter is that, yes, we want to.
01:00We want to see quick progress.
01:01As you said, it's unprecedented.
01:02Okay.
01:03All I'm saying to you is before this.
01:05This was stagnant.
01:06Before this, we had spent 14 years.
01:08You were involved in some of those efforts.
01:0914.
01:1015 years trying to change the dynamic in Venezuela.
01:1313, 12, 11, 10.
01:14That was a big part.
01:15Part of my career in the Senate was spent on this.
01:17This is the first time in over a decade that.
01:20We see even the glimmer of an opportunity to change conditions.
01:23A lot of that will depend on us, but a lot of.
01:25That will depend on them.
01:26And it also will depend on the rest of Venezuelan society.
01:28How quickly can we get all these.
01:30Venezuelans that want to go back to Venezuela and participate in civic and economic life back.
01:35That's going to be critical here.
01:37We recognize that.
01:38So, yes, we have to be much further along.
01:40In six months, we expect to be further along.
01:42And if we're not, I'll tell you.
01:43We'll tell you.
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