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00:00Hola, y bienvenidos a M2, estamos muy felices aquí porque qué buenas series, qué buenas películas,
00:12qué bien empezamos ya este año y para lo que vamos, ¿verdad, Ivette?
00:16Exactamente, Susi. Temporada de premios, pero también de grandes historias que están llegando a la pantalla
00:22y una de ellas es precisamente The Pit, la vimos en los Kids' Choice Awards, en el Globo de Oro
00:29y bueno, viene mucho.
00:32Sí, Noa Wiley ganando como mejor actor dramático, evidentemente la serie, qué bueno que se separen las categorías en ciertos programas
00:40porque ya la categoría de serie limitada permitió que Adolescence, de la cual también tuvimos mucho...
00:46También tuviera su reconocimiento.
00:47También tuviera el reconocimiento y The Pit como mejor serie dramática, pues está brutal
00:51y tú platicaste con su hermoso protagonista que todos amamos, Noa Wiley, y con sus showrunners.
00:56Exacto, Susi. Tuvimos la oportunidad de estar precisamente con ellos platicando respecto a lo que viene para esta segunda temporada
01:03que ya está en HBO Max, pero me llama mucho la atención lo que representa la historia
01:08en términos de cómo está construida narrativamente en ese turno de 15 horas en un 4 de julio
01:15y todo lo que ocurre en una sala de urgencias cuando su protagonista está colapsando.
01:20Venga.
01:20Su reemplazo llegó temprano.
01:22Solo me cubrirá mientras tomo un breve sabático.
01:25Tengo unas ideas para mejorar el departamento.
01:27¿De acuerdo?
01:28Bueno.
01:29¡Pierda! ¡Déjame ir!
01:30¿Le quiere contar sobre sus ideas?
01:31Bueno, Season 1 was sort of described as the doctor is the patient.
01:39Season 2 is doctors don't make very good patients.
01:41So we really wanted to come back this year and not have Robbie suddenly healthy or healed.
01:48We just got him to recognize that he has a problem.
01:52So it seemed more interesting to play the reluctance to getting help, the avoidance of getting help, the obstacles that would keep somebody from wanting to admit that they need help, while at the same time advocating it for others.
02:10You know, it was a really interesting part of crafting Season 2.
02:16You know, we wanted to show Robbie as a guy that's at a bit of a crossroads still.
02:23You know, it's his last day before he goes on a three-month sabbatical so he can get some perspective and get some distance from this place.
02:28It's also Langdon's first day back after 10 months of being part of a drug and alcohol recovery program.
02:34In some ways, Langdon is coming back representing the self-analyzed therapeutic road that Robbie probably needs to engage in.
02:41And at the same time, from Robbie's perspective, it's kryptonite coming into Superman's house.
02:46So it made for some really interesting structure among the characters,
02:52but also tells an interesting and unfortunately sort of contemporary story about emergency room physicians and leadership positions not feeling like they can ask for help
03:02because they have to project such confidence all the time, not just to their patients, but to the staff as well.
03:08And then where does that leave them at the end of the day if they feel inadequate to the task?
03:13You're a very empathic soul, but this is urgent, it's not for heart-debils.
03:17What do you need to recover some basic empathy?
03:20Well, the emotional baggage aside, the diversity of cases you see on the 4th of July,
03:25given you're dealing with alcohol and fireworks and water sports and motor sports and patriotism,
03:31it allowed our makeup effects team to get rather creative in the cases that we employ this year.
03:36So I was excited to come back and see how they would take the challenge of creating a new set of visual grotesqueries for the audiences to enjoy.
03:45I was also interested in coming back and playing that next degree of evolution in the character's journey.
03:52You know, if season one is recognizing he has the problem, then season two is recognizing he has to do something about it.
03:59And doctors don't make very good patients.
04:00Well, we learned that it worked.
04:02We weren't even sure it was going to work the first time.
04:05You know, it was a little scary.
04:07We'd never, neither one of us had ever done anything that was close to being in real time.
04:11And so I think just learning how to make that work and work with the background and all the people that we have,
04:20because the whole idea is that you're very immersed in the ER so that when you look around,
04:26you see action going in the foreground and action going in the background.
04:30And that adds to the authenticity, I think, of the show.
04:33And so learning how to coordinate all the different departments to make that happen was probably the biggest challenge.
04:41They're very human stories.
05:01And you really start from focusing on who the people are who are coming in, what their fears are, who they are.
05:08And then it's how the actors who are playing our physicians and nurses interact with them.
05:14You know, you can't.
05:16Medical melodramas are oftentimes about the patient and the physician getting completely involved in the patient's life.
05:24And that's not realistic.
05:26That's not actually what happens.
05:27You have to keep a professional distance about how learning how to keep that professional distance.
05:33So it's not really a matter of saying what's the big thing that could happen in this episode.
05:38It's much more character based.
05:39It comes from the from the point of view of what is this first year medical student or third year resident?
05:45What are they learning?
05:46What else do they need to learn?
05:47What what are the attendings learning about them, how they interact around the medicine, around the job?
05:53It's a workplace show about how we interact with each other in workplaces and also about how you learn and every day you learn something new.
06:02Well, me encanta Ivette, me encanta esta serie, me encanta que nos están haciendo esperar.
06:09Bueno, no sé si me encanta eso, pero creo que es bueno que nos están haciendo esperar porque si no te la comes en un fin de semana.
06:15Exacto.
06:16Al menos esos dos capítulos de entrada y luego ya uno cada cada fin de semana.
06:20Así que ya ya ya ya estaremos con más.
06:22Y bueno, eso no es lo único que pues con lo que iniciamos muy bien el año.
06:28Hay otra serie que también regresa.
06:30Esta que acabamos de ver es en HBO Max y esta de la que vamos a hablar es en Apple TV, ¿correcto?
06:35Correcto.
06:35Y bueno, así como decimos el divino de de Noah Wiley, te tengo que decir que híjole, no pongas en frente ahí de mi selva porque róbame el avión en el que estoy y llévame donde quieras.
06:45Donde lo pongas.
06:46Sí.
06:47Donde lo pongas, como lo pongas.
06:49Hay Jack, en la primera temporada, pues el secuestro de un avión.
06:53Exacto.
06:55Impresionantes las sutilezas con las que se comunicaba en lo que él estaba entendiendo, en lo que él estaba haciendo.
07:01¿Qué tiene esta segunda temporada? ¿De qué va? Porque se sigue llamando secuestro de avión, Hay Jack.
07:05Es que sigue sobre lo mismo, pero sabes ver cómo está evolucionando el personaje.
07:10Y cuando yo veía el título, de verdad, en la primera temporada decía, ¿otra serie de secuestros aéreos?
07:19Vale muchísimo la pena saber cómo también está construida esta historia.
07:22Venga, pues plásticaste con él.
07:24Exacto.
07:24Adelante.
07:25You have played some iconic and complex characters before, but in this story you tap into a different kind of man.
07:51It feels like you are exploring a more vulnerable side of masculinity.
07:57What do you want to show about a man like Sam?
08:01Trauma has a big part to play with this guy, you know, this particular character in this season.
08:08The first season there was a lot going on in his mind and he was like taken back like everybody else.
08:14It's like, oh my God, in this season, I think he's being driven by pain and possibly revenge.
08:24And, you know, there's a real sense of wanting answers.
08:31And yeah, I think there is a vulnerable side to this guy, you know, he's not an action hero in the usual sense.
08:38He's very much a human.
08:42Absolutely.
08:42So you've played natural leaders throughout your career.
08:47What real negotiation or crisis management skills did you bring into this role, especially in such strict situations?
08:56Listen, I'm a producer on the film and, you know, I guess my team, you know, it's sort of really layering and educating ourselves to make this show.
09:12I learned about planes and now I learn about trains, you know, and that discipline is really important.
09:18And I think I was saying to someone, you know, making reality is the hardest thing to do.
09:23You know, if this was about a spaceship, you know, slightly different thinking.
09:27But when it comes to something that people can relate to, you really have to layer in some deeper thinking.
09:33So the audience is always escaped.
09:37Even if it's something they recognize, they need to be escaped within that.
09:41So that was one of the things that I think I brought, you know, just given a real sense and examination of that.
09:47And talking about that, being the producer and the main character, with everything you have learned on both sides of the camera,
09:58what was the most difficult creative decision you had to make on this story?
10:08Why is he doing it?
10:10Why?
10:12Why is he on this train?
10:14And, you know, is the audience going to believe him?
10:20And we just really need to, we needed to really layer why he's doing it and keep making sense.
10:27As an actor, you know, if it doesn't make sense, actors are very kind of used to very quickly say,
10:34this doesn't make sense.
10:35Why?
10:36Because we're the ones that have to say it.
10:39And so I definitely feel like there's, you know, for me, it was about the why.
10:48Tell me more.
10:48Tell me, let me understand.
10:50And I want to let the audience understand why he's on the train.
10:54You have done everything from sharp comedy to high-tension drama.
10:59How did that mix of experiences help you to take on real-time thrillers like this?
11:06Thanks, Yvette.
11:07Well, yeah, so I suppose Hijack is really sort of a culmination of a lot of the things I've done
11:15and I've learned over the years in terms of storytelling.
11:18You know, there is probably not so much comedy in Hijack,
11:24although I do try and make sure that all the shows I make have some levity to them.
11:29I don't think, you know, even in real life,
11:33humans do not react with just no humor at all in any given situation.
11:39I think it's been proven time and time again that when the going gets tough,
11:44you know, people will find the lightness even in the darkest of situations.
11:50So I think I've brought quite a lot of that into the show.
11:55We try and have that levity there and that lightness where we can.
12:00Otherwise, it just becomes, you know, relentless and it's not true to life.
12:04So, so, yeah, I think, you know, the show at its core is a thriller
12:10and it's dangerous and it's dark and it's psychological.
12:16You know, those are all things that I've explored, you know, over the years
12:20and really come to a sort of peak in this show.
12:24So, yeah, for Apple TV.
12:26Yeah, for Apple TV.
12:28Maravilloso.
12:28Y, bueno, vamos a seguir teniendo cosas.
12:30Ahora sí que de todas las plataformas, de todas las maneras en las que pueden
12:34llegarnos estos extraordinarios programas,
12:37¿no te parece increíble que todavía estamos viviendo una era en la que la gente
12:39dice, es que no tengo nada que ver en la tele?
12:42Me faltan días y horas para poder ver todo lo que quiero.
12:45Hay que elegir bien y por eso aquí traemos las entrevistas y las recomendaciones
12:49de lo que consideramos que vale toda la pena, ¿no?
12:51Y estas dos, de verdad que lo valen.
12:53Sí, absolutamente. Gracias, Iber.
12:55Gracias, como siempre, un placer.
12:56Y gracias a ustedes por acompañarnos.
12:58Aquí seguiremos en Milenio Televisión.
13:00Esto es M2.
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