00:00They are not, it seems like, concretely swimming in the Cody Bellinger waters.
00:04At least, they're not swimming in the Cody Bellinger waters that Scott Boris wants them to be swimming in.
00:10The Yankees have offered Cody Bellinger, this is according to Bob Nightingale, five years, about $160 million with no deferrals.
00:20Bellinger and Boris are hell-bent on getting a seven-year deal.
00:25If you put five for $160 million in front of Cody Bellinger, are you floored that he's not taking it right now?
00:34No, because of who his agent is, but otherwise, yes.
00:37Podcast P is shaking his head about the money there.
00:40I agree.
00:41I like Bellinger.
00:42I'm bought, and we talked about it in the Diamondbacks Playing GM episode.
00:45I think he's a good fit for a lot of teams.
00:48Also, one last thing before I forget, the other wrinkle why I think it's a slam dunk for the Phillies,
00:52aside from Bo just fitting in, I think, to the culture there and everything, is the Don Mattingly influence who he's decided as a mentor as well.
01:00So I love that wrinkle in it as well.
01:02With which Toronto just agreed to become the bench coach for the Philadelphia Phillies.
01:06Which is, which just timing is great there.
01:09I just don't, I don't, I think the Yankees are fine sitting there and saying, go get your seven years.
01:15Kind of like the Bogarts thing, where, like, if somebody out there is willing to give him seven, so you tip your cap and say, okay.
01:23It would be tough for the Yankees, though, because they really need to then replace his production, and I don't know if they'll be able to do that.
01:31And that's why we have a staring contest now, because I think Boris knows that.
01:34And the Yankees know that, or at least feel confident, that no one's giving him seven.
01:39And I do ultimately think this is a staring contest that would end up favoring the Yankees.
01:46However, that's why we did the playing GM to the Diamondbacks.
01:50Like, that's where the Diamondbacks sometimes come out of nowhere and say, we'll give you the same exact offer.
01:55And you're going to have, you know, you're going to take home more.
01:58You're going to go back home.
01:59And, you know, or we increase it by five million, let's say.
02:03Then it becomes a little bit of a conversation.
02:05But I still just, I think it's a staring contest that we had a similar thing come out, I think, if I remember correctly, with the Yankees and a player as well.
02:15This is where Podcast P, I might call you out of the bullpen here.
02:18Was there not a similar kind of leak situation where it was the Yankees and X player are distancing themselves, and they ended up bringing him back?
02:27Hmm.
02:28I'm trying to think.
02:29Peyton has no idea right now.
02:31He was familiar.
02:33I'll try to dig that up.
02:34But I want to say that happened in the last couple of years and ended up bringing him back.
02:39So I think it's a lot of posturing.
02:41And you're talking about two teams here that probably, or two sides here.
02:45You know, you know Boris is weaponizing the media.
02:49And then you also know that the Yankees and Cashman are going to do that.
02:52They've always done that.
02:53So this is where the reporting around this whole thing, it's like you've got to take it with a grain of salt.
02:58Yeah, 100%.
03:00I just look at the Yankees and they're putting themselves in a position to possibly get beaten for Bellinger.
03:07And unlike the Red Sox and Bregman, I think the Yankees are okay if they get beaten out for Cody Bellinger's services.
03:14Meanwhile, Boston, they're not okay getting beaten out for Alex Bregman's services.
03:18Now they're kind of scrambling.
03:20If Bellinger were to go to an Arizona or were to go somewhere else, heck, were to go to the New York Mets,
03:26the Yankees are fine because they have their outfield of Dominguez in left, Grisham in center, and of Judge in right.
03:32Yeah.
03:32And you're cool with that.
03:34It's not great, but it's definitely better than the infield that the Red Sox are dealing with.
03:38It at least has more upside.
03:39Puts them over the top, man.
03:40And Dominguez has been your top prospect for how many years?
03:43Grisham is overhated, by the way.
03:45Dominguez hit a 103 WRC plus last year.
03:48He was a little banged up.
03:49He's a switch hitting 22-year-old.
03:52I still think he can take a big step forward this coming season.
03:56The one you point to is Grisham, but Trent Grisham is on the hook for $22 million.
04:01So that's not a negligible amount of money that you can just saddle on the bench and not play.
04:05He's going to play.
04:06He's a three-win player last year.
04:08Yeah.
04:08Grisham was a three-win player, and Jason Dominguez was solid in his own right.
04:12719 OPS.
04:13Thank you, Peyton, for pulling that up.
04:15The issue is the defense.
04:16Another guy that is way too fast and way too talented to be as bad as he is a defense.
04:20I imagine he practiced all offseason.
04:22Do you hope that he got better with his reads and routes?
04:24He's an elite arm.
04:25If the defense can just be shored up a little bit, I think he's in a pretty good spot.
04:29Then the battered ball angles were a little bit of a challenge here and there.
04:32I think the Yankees have ragdolled him in his development as well.
04:34I think all the expectations for him have been unfair.
04:36And I think it's been a really rough ride for a guy that really hasn't been that bad at all at the big league level.
04:43So I still think he's a candidate to take a big step forward.
04:46I think Ben Rice is a candidate to take a big step forward.
04:48Where I'm curious is like the McMahon slash shortstop slash really just that situation.
04:55And then if Dominguez is hurt, which is a very fair question because he is hurt quite often, I just I need somebody at least an insurance policy out there.
05:05And I think they can pivot and do that or at least grab a guy that can take the short side of the platoon because right now Jason Dominguez just shouldn't be hitting much from the right side.
05:13So there's something out there.
05:14They're going to have to pivot to some other moves.
05:17But I agree with you.
05:18It wouldn't be as dire.
05:19But this team wouldn't be a World Series favorite without Bellinger.
05:23I think it hurts.
05:23I think they're definitely a notch down from where they would have been.
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