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00:00:00fans love to see comedians together, right?
00:00:03And they go, oh my God, this guy is so funny.
00:00:06That guy is so funny.
00:00:07They're going to get together.
00:00:08They're going to laugh.
00:00:09They have the best time.
00:00:10I want to be in the present of these two guys.
00:00:12They're cracking so many jokes.
00:00:14Now, in reality, I want you to know
00:00:16when most comedians get together,
00:00:19they're not laughing the whole time.
00:00:20As a matter of fact,
00:00:21they're having very deep conversations.
00:00:30Welcome to another episode of Wild Truth.
00:00:35I have a very special guest,
00:00:38not just any guest,
00:00:39not someone from the States,
00:00:41not somebody from anywhere close,
00:00:43but all the way from India.
00:00:47Yes, that's true.
00:00:48Zakir Khan in the house.
00:00:50Thank you very much.
00:00:50That's very kind of you to have me on the podcast.
00:00:53I'm very excited right now.
00:00:55Thank you, buddy.
00:00:56I'm so happy that we can have this chat.
00:00:58Why?
00:00:58Why am I so happy to have this chat?
00:01:02Zakir and I recently connected on social media.
00:01:05Yes.
00:01:05We had a small chat.
00:01:07Hey, you know, love your work.
00:01:09Let's get to know each other.
00:01:10Sounds amazing.
00:01:11Let's do this.
00:01:11It's incredible.
00:01:13Then we connected at LAX,
00:01:17both landed in the same terminal
00:01:19on the same day from two different cities.
00:01:21Okay, cool.
00:01:22And we met.
00:01:23Now, off to this part,
00:01:24what a great fun scenario.
00:01:26Right.
00:01:27It's very romantic right now.
00:01:28Very romantic.
00:01:29It was very romantic.
00:01:30But as the romance was sort of evolving,
00:01:34we realized we talk about so many amazing life things,
00:01:40work stuff.
00:01:42And that's when I looked at Zakir and I said,
00:01:44buddy, I wish we could, you know,
00:01:46do a podcast so we can share a lot of this conversation
00:01:50with our friends and family and fans
00:01:52and allow people in to your world,
00:01:56to my world in this beautiful connection.
00:01:59So I'm going to give you my first impression.
00:02:01Yes.
00:02:02First impression when I saw you.
00:02:04Okay.
00:02:04Okay.
00:02:04And then first and foremost,
00:02:08I saw you at the airport.
00:02:10You came up, big smile.
00:02:12Immediately, I just felt like,
00:02:15ah, this guy is super easy to talk to.
00:02:18Right.
00:02:19Like it was instant,
00:02:20as if we knew each other for like 20 years.
00:02:22But the best thing about you,
00:02:25in my opinion,
00:02:26is how personable you are.
00:02:30You're so personable.
00:02:31You're immediately so open to share.
00:02:35And that makes you so likable, man.
00:02:38So likable.
00:02:39And so goes for you.
00:02:41At the time when I met you at the airport,
00:02:44it was so comfortable meeting you.
00:02:46So I think it comes over years.
00:02:51When you are more comfortable with yourself,
00:02:54you are sure of your own space.
00:02:56And that is when you can allow other people in.
00:03:00Or you can take them in your realm,
00:03:04in your universe with comfort.
00:03:07I think that's my new learning.
00:03:11And if I reach to this year in 2024,
00:03:13that feeling secure is like a superpower.
00:03:19Just, so I feel,
00:03:21I feel very secure in my space right now,
00:03:24wherever I am.
00:03:25And that just makes me so much comfortable
00:03:29around everybody, around human beings.
00:03:31It just helps me chat so much.
00:03:33It helps me talk to, connect with people,
00:03:36talk to random strangers.
00:03:38I know they can judge me.
00:03:39They can judge me.
00:03:41They can respect me.
00:03:42But a random pedestrian cannot decide
00:03:45how I feel about myself.
00:03:47And I feel great about myself.
00:03:50And that's the beginning of being warm and open
00:03:52and ready to listen to others.
00:03:54So I think that comes from there.
00:03:57And I think it's also,
00:03:59have you made me feel at that point?
00:04:02If you were somebody who was very uptight
00:04:05and not very open,
00:04:07I don't think it cannot open.
00:04:09A bridge cannot be open from one side.
00:04:10For the traffic to move,
00:04:13it has to be open from both the sides.
00:04:15You're absolutely right.
00:04:16You're absolutely right about that.
00:04:18And also, let me actually do one more thing.
00:04:21And because a lot of my fans
00:04:23that are watching this show
00:04:24that are being introduced to Zakir,
00:04:27I really want to do a proper introduction
00:04:31as far as who you are,
00:04:32what your background is.
00:04:33Zakir comes from a family of artists.
00:04:38And he's a very talented musician.
00:04:41And as he was growing up in the world of music,
00:04:43he started doing stand-up.
00:04:44And stand-up, it was something,
00:04:46it was just his calling.
00:04:47He just felt one day,
00:04:48I got to do stand-up comedy.
00:04:49And the next thing is history.
00:04:51Now, in order to put this in perspective,
00:04:54Zakir is a comedian
00:04:56who sells worldwide
00:04:58to massive numbers of his fan base.
00:05:02He just, you know,
00:05:03he met me at LAX,
00:05:05just flew in from San Jose.
00:05:06And I go,
00:05:07hey, buddy, how was the show last night?
00:05:08Oh, it was great.
00:05:09How many seats?
00:05:11And he goes, 9,000.
00:05:12As if it's just another day.
00:05:159,000.
00:05:16I go, what?
00:05:18I said,
00:05:19you sold 9,000 seats
00:05:21in San Jose, California?
00:05:23He's like, yeah,
00:05:24yeah, it was great.
00:05:25Yeah, it's just...
00:05:26Unbelievable.
00:05:28He's selling,
00:05:29correct me if I'm wrong,
00:05:30you sold 17,000 seats in Toronto?
00:05:33And 10,000 in Toronto.
00:05:3410,000 in Toronto?
00:05:3517,000 we did in Delhi.
00:05:36In Delhi, yeah.
00:05:37In Delhi, exactly.
00:05:38And Mumbai?
00:05:40Yeah, yeah.
00:05:4020-something thousand.
00:05:42We can,
00:05:43there's no place in Mumbai
00:05:46to hold those many people,
00:05:48but I'm sure someday,
00:05:49I wish I can.
00:05:51Wow.
00:05:51Yeah, so the numbers,
00:05:52I mean, his fan base is massive.
00:05:54He's so loved in India
00:05:55and the last thing I mentioned
00:05:58to the proper introduction
00:06:00is what's so special about Zakir
00:06:02is he does his stand-up comedy in Hindi
00:06:06and that is by choice.
00:06:08He wanted to sort of speak
00:06:11to the heart of his people
00:06:13and he does a show
00:06:15that sometimes it could be
00:06:17as long as three and a half hours
00:06:18and takes his whole audience on a journey
00:06:20and he's one of the best storytellers.
00:06:23So with that, you know, being said-
00:06:25Oh my God, now it's too much of pressure.
00:06:27I think I am not that great.
00:06:29No, no, really.
00:06:29I'm trying to be somebody that great.
00:06:32I am trying to be someone
00:06:34who can live by that introduction.
00:06:36No, you are.
00:06:37Here's another thing.
00:06:38And this is said by a lot of your fans
00:06:43at my shows.
00:06:44So I'm doing my shows
00:06:45and a lot of Indians coming to my shows,
00:06:48which makes me so flattered
00:06:50that I have a new audience
00:06:52that's discovering me
00:06:53and what a lovely people.
00:06:55They're giving me so much love
00:06:56and I talked to you about this in length.
00:06:58So a lot of the Indians that they meet me,
00:07:03I sometimes throw it in there
00:07:04and I go, hey, by the way,
00:07:05I'm friends with Zakir Khan
00:07:07and they go, oh, yes, yes, yes, of course, of course.
00:07:12Because they think all comedians
00:07:14are friends with each other
00:07:15and like we're like,
00:07:16it's so nice when they think something like that
00:07:21because comedians are funny.
00:07:23So they think about us as friends
00:07:26and because they also like you.
00:07:28So they want all their friends to meet
00:07:32and like, you know,
00:07:33it's such a nice imaginary world they have,
00:07:36which they want all the comedians
00:07:38who they like are funny
00:07:40to be together all the time
00:07:41and be friends.
00:07:42And it's so nice and warm
00:07:44for the fans to think.
00:07:45So when I put a story with you,
00:07:48like when we were driving
00:07:50and you tagged me in one of your stories
00:07:53and I reshared it,
00:07:54I can't imagine the amount of people
00:07:57who messaged me,
00:07:58like, oh my God,
00:07:59in what world would these people,
00:08:01like there are a lot of Iranis
00:08:03who live in India
00:08:04and they must be following your Parsi page
00:08:07and your work through their social media
00:08:11and they live in India,
00:08:12so they follow me.
00:08:14And when they see you with me,
00:08:16when they saw that we are hanging out together,
00:08:19it just delights them.
00:08:20It just makes them so happy.
00:08:21And that is so endearing to me as an artist.
00:08:24And it just tells that how important it is
00:08:28as people, as artists to collaborate
00:08:31and to reach out to people
00:08:33who are not from the same realm,
00:08:35from the same universe.
00:08:37And I think it was very lucky of us
00:08:41to be connected and somehow,
00:08:44and thanks to social media,
00:08:45to be very honest,
00:08:46that it was so easy
00:08:48just to send a text
00:08:50and then we could connect.
00:08:51You know, I have to say,
00:08:54fans love to see comedians together, right?
00:08:58And they go, oh my God,
00:09:00this guy is so funny.
00:09:01That guy is so funny.
00:09:02They're going to get together.
00:09:03They're going to laugh.
00:09:04They have the best time.
00:09:05I want to be in the present of these two guys.
00:09:07They're cracking so many jokes.
00:09:09Now, in reality,
00:09:10I want you to know,
00:09:11when most comedians get together,
00:09:14they're not laughing the whole time.
00:09:15As a matter of fact,
00:09:16they're having very deep conversations.
00:09:20Yeah.
00:09:20And a lot of people don't realize that about comedians.
00:09:25We're very observational,
00:09:27deep-minded people.
00:09:28And when we get together,
00:09:30we're analyzing,
00:09:31we're breaking things down,
00:09:32we're sharing thoughts and ideas.
00:09:34And a lot of time,
00:09:35it's heavy conversation
00:09:37in a very meaningful way.
00:09:39And once in a while,
00:09:40of course we laugh
00:09:41and we're silly and stuff.
00:09:43But if you break it down,
00:09:45the dosage is not necessarily always funny.
00:09:48It could be at times
00:09:49very serious
00:09:50and very wonderful and meaningful.
00:09:53I think that is something
00:09:55which now,
00:09:57as they have more empathy towards us,
00:09:59they start learning and understanding.
00:10:02I've been very lucky
00:10:03that people who follow my work
00:10:05understand this.
00:10:07And I have also
00:10:09sort of refrained myself
00:10:11from being funny
00:10:12offstage.
00:10:14Like,
00:10:14I don't want to live with this pressure 24-7
00:10:16that,
00:10:17oh,
00:10:17I'm a comedian,
00:10:17I'll crack jokes.
00:10:19I'm a comedian,
00:10:20come watch my show.
00:10:22I'm very funny on the show.
00:10:23So just come watch me on the show.
00:10:25If you see me there,
00:10:28I will not bullshit there.
00:10:31Yes,
00:10:31you're going to deliver.
00:10:32Yeah,
00:10:33I'll deliver.
00:10:33But there is an expectation.
00:10:35There is an expectation.
00:10:36And I will make sure
00:10:37that if you have come
00:10:39with the expectation of comedy,
00:10:40I will give you
00:10:42the best of my ability.
00:10:45Yeah,
00:10:45yeah,
00:10:45of course.
00:10:46I will make you laugh
00:10:48till your jaw hurts.
00:10:49I'll make you laugh
00:10:50till you make you laugh
00:10:52till you're out of your breath.
00:10:53But also,
00:10:54do it in my style.
00:10:56I think,
00:10:58I want to,
00:10:58I say it in English,
00:11:00I don't know,
00:11:00I say it in Hindi.
00:11:01But in my belief,
00:11:03even if I have to tell you
00:11:04something duper philosophical,
00:11:06I would like to do it,
00:11:09like I,
00:11:10how do,
00:11:10in Hindi we say this phrase,
00:11:12which is like an aftermath
00:11:13when you eat.
00:11:14It's a beetle.
00:11:15Beetle leaf.
00:11:17So,
00:11:17paan,
00:11:19we say it paan
00:11:19in India.
00:11:21And I believe that
00:11:23even if I have to poison somebody,
00:11:24I will put it in the paan
00:11:25and give it to them.
00:11:27Yes.
00:11:27Like,
00:11:27if I have to poison you,
00:11:30I will put it in a cake
00:11:31and give it to you.
00:11:32Put it in the desert
00:11:33and give it to you.
00:11:35So that you don't feel bad about it.
00:11:36So even if I have to do something,
00:11:37if I have to say something
00:11:38deeper to my audience,
00:11:40I make sure it's part of the show
00:11:41and you never realize
00:11:42that where it is going to come from
00:11:44and how it's going to come from.
00:11:45Well,
00:11:45you deliver in a smooth way.
00:11:47But there's definitely
00:11:48an expectation
00:11:49for comedians
00:11:51when they're not on stage.
00:11:54You know,
00:11:54when fans run into them
00:11:55in a restaurant
00:11:55at the airport,
00:11:57you know,
00:11:57and then they just,
00:11:58they just,
00:11:59they want to come up to you
00:12:00and they,
00:12:00you know,
00:12:01they're just,
00:12:01somehow they're expecting
00:12:02for you to turn around
00:12:03and be the funniest guy
00:12:04and crack jokes
00:12:05and sometimes they catch you
00:12:07in the most stressful time.
00:12:08You're like,
00:12:08man,
00:12:09I'm late to,
00:12:09I'm late to my flight right now.
00:12:11I love you,
00:12:12man,
00:12:12but I got to go.
00:12:14I really try personally
00:12:16to be as personable as possible
00:12:19and look them in the eyes
00:12:21and connect honestly.
00:12:22But yeah,
00:12:24there is that expectation.
00:12:26Yeah,
00:12:26there is.
00:12:27And I think I've,
00:12:28I've been very lucky
00:12:29that my people
00:12:31who follow my work
00:12:32really do understand that.
00:12:35I was very lucky
00:12:36that I traveled
00:12:37with my grandfather
00:12:37who was a popular musician
00:12:39and he told me
00:12:42that never spoil
00:12:43somebody's magic
00:12:44because when they see you
00:12:45on stage,
00:12:46it's very magical.
00:12:48To see an artist perform
00:12:49at the peak
00:12:50of their art form
00:12:51is so magical.
00:12:53To experience that
00:12:54as an audience
00:12:54is so magical.
00:12:56When they see you
00:12:57in that light,
00:13:00they see you forever.
00:13:03So when they meet you,
00:13:04they are not meeting you
00:13:05as a person.
00:13:05They are meeting
00:13:06the artist on stage.
00:13:08So,
00:13:08so they will meet you
00:13:09once in their life,
00:13:10right?
00:13:11Or,
00:13:12or at max twice
00:13:13in their life.
00:13:15So that moment
00:13:16for them is,
00:13:18so they,
00:13:18they can behave
00:13:19in,
00:13:19in 10 different ways.
00:13:21But mostly they know
00:13:22that this is the only moment
00:13:23I am getting this person
00:13:24access to this person.
00:13:26So at times
00:13:27they might behave weird,
00:13:29but you as an artist
00:13:29should be very aware
00:13:31of the situation
00:13:31that in this,
00:13:33with the case
00:13:33with most of the comedians
00:13:34is that
00:13:35it's a talking business.
00:13:36It's not music.
00:13:38So they are listening to us,
00:13:40but they have never
00:13:41spoken back.
00:13:42So after years
00:13:44of listening to you,
00:13:45when they meet you,
00:13:45they are in the middle
00:13:46of a conversation.
00:13:47So they want to say
00:13:51their part.
00:13:52So we need to help.
00:13:53So that's what I do.
00:13:54I,
00:13:54I try to guide my people
00:13:56when they meet me.
00:13:57I try to,
00:13:58I try to,
00:13:59to,
00:13:59to guide them
00:14:00what exactly
00:14:00they want to say
00:14:01because they are also
00:14:01out of their words.
00:14:02So I think that is something
00:14:04which helps them.
00:14:05That's how I look at it.
00:14:08Secondly,
00:14:09there is a lot of empathy
00:14:11in my community.
00:14:12I have for them
00:14:13and they have for me,
00:14:14especially to the,
00:14:15to the people
00:14:16who follow me,
00:14:17they eat out of my hands
00:14:18and I'm so lucky
00:14:20and I'm so blessed
00:14:20to have it.
00:14:22If I'm eating
00:14:23at a restaurant
00:14:24and they walk up to me
00:14:25and if I say,
00:14:26I'm just eating it
00:14:27and you know,
00:14:28they,
00:14:28they,
00:14:28they wait
00:14:29or they never come.
00:14:31Like they text me later
00:14:33that,
00:14:34oh,
00:14:34we saw you.
00:14:34Thank you very much.
00:14:35Totally understand.
00:14:37Just have your meal.
00:14:38But I try to say,
00:14:40I,
00:14:40I try to not deny everybody.
00:14:42Like.
00:14:43Yes,
00:14:43I understand.
00:14:43But Indians are very
00:14:45cordial community as well.
00:14:47They're very,
00:14:48very considerate
00:14:51in that sense.
00:14:51I've noticed that.
00:14:52I think that is also
00:14:53one of the reasons
00:14:54that the community,
00:14:56my people,
00:14:58especially people
00:14:58from India
00:14:59are thriving
00:15:00everywhere in the world
00:15:01and that allows me
00:15:02as a comedian
00:15:03to travel across the world
00:15:04is because
00:15:05they are very kind,
00:15:06considerate
00:15:07and
00:15:08they adjust
00:15:09very easily
00:15:10to the situation
00:15:11and the place.
00:15:12Okay.
00:15:12Can I ask you
00:15:14this question again
00:15:14based on what you just said?
00:15:15You said your grandfather said
00:15:16don't ever spoil
00:15:18that magic
00:15:19that people experience
00:15:22on stage
00:15:23with you.
00:15:24What does that mean?
00:15:26So what he told me
00:15:27because he was an artist
00:15:28and they,
00:15:29when people used to meet him,
00:15:32he used to be so warm
00:15:33and loving
00:15:34to them.
00:15:35And while I was his student,
00:15:37he was very strict
00:15:38to me.
00:15:38So I could see him
00:15:39switch from this
00:15:40to that.
00:15:42Then I confronted him
00:15:44one fine day
00:15:45that why do you switch
00:15:46like that
00:15:47and why are you so nice
00:15:47to these people
00:15:48when you are free?
00:15:49At times he's not well,
00:15:50at times he's suffering,
00:15:52he was old.
00:15:53So he was going through
00:15:54multiple ailments
00:15:55at the same time.
00:15:57But he still chose
00:15:58to be kinder
00:15:59to people
00:15:59which I felt
00:16:01was very weird
00:16:02back then
00:16:03and I asked him
00:16:03that,
00:16:04I thought he was
00:16:05two-faced
00:16:05to be very honest.
00:16:07I was like,
00:16:08why are you doing this?
00:16:09And he said that
00:16:10when people see you
00:16:11on stage,
00:16:12it's filled
00:16:14with blessing.
00:16:15What you do
00:16:15on stage
00:16:16is not yours.
00:16:17It's coming
00:16:19from divine.
00:16:21And when they
00:16:22see you off stage,
00:16:23you might not
00:16:24be that divine
00:16:25at that time.
00:16:26You are just
00:16:26a human being
00:16:27but they see
00:16:29you that divine.
00:16:31They see you
00:16:31that divinity,
00:16:33is this the right word?
00:16:34I'm not,
00:16:34my English is not
00:16:35that great.
00:16:36But they see you
00:16:36in that light
00:16:37and when you
00:16:38try to be human
00:16:40for them,
00:16:41it just breaks
00:16:42the spell
00:16:42for them
00:16:43and I would
00:16:46rather keep it
00:16:47on for everybody
00:16:48I can.
00:16:49Like that's how,
00:16:50let me put it.
00:16:51No,
00:16:51beautiful.
00:16:52So what you're
00:16:53saying is in order
00:16:54not to spoil
00:16:55that magic
00:16:55is to be kind
00:16:56and loving.
00:16:57Yes.
00:16:58So we need
00:16:59to plan better.
00:17:00We need to reach
00:17:01airport on time.
00:17:03We need to be
00:17:04considerate.
00:17:04We need to have
00:17:05a lot of time
00:17:06to people
00:17:07we bump into.
00:17:08Like that is something.
00:17:09So you cannot be,
00:17:10you cannot be lazy
00:17:11if you're popular.
00:17:13You cannot,
00:17:14yeah.
00:17:16So try to be
00:17:18as considerate
00:17:18as possible
00:17:19and then time
00:17:20will tell you
00:17:21and situation
00:17:22will tell you
00:17:23how considerate
00:17:23you can be.
00:17:24A week before
00:17:25coming to US,
00:17:27I was not well
00:17:28and I was traveling
00:17:29at the same time
00:17:30and everybody I met
00:17:31I told that
00:17:32I'm not well
00:17:32and when you,
00:17:35when your intent
00:17:36is pure,
00:17:37they listen to you.
00:17:38There's something
00:17:39which my father told
00:17:40and I want to
00:17:40underline that.
00:17:42When I,
00:17:42when my video
00:17:43went viral,
00:17:43he told me that
00:17:44don't,
00:17:46don't act
00:17:47to be a good person.
00:17:49You will have
00:17:50to become a good person.
00:17:52If you pretend
00:17:52to be a good person,
00:17:53people will catch you.
00:17:55So I think
00:17:55that is something
00:17:56which in the earlier
00:17:57days of my career
00:17:58stuck with me
00:18:01that,
00:18:01oh,
00:18:01I will have
00:18:02to be this person
00:18:03who is actually
00:18:04happy meeting people.
00:18:06I cannot fake it.
00:18:07No,
00:18:07100%.
00:18:08Authenticity
00:18:09is the most
00:18:11powerful tool
00:18:14a human can have
00:18:15as an artist.
00:18:16When you find
00:18:17that authenticity,
00:18:19people can connect
00:18:19with you.
00:18:20If you're not
00:18:21authentic,
00:18:22the connection
00:18:23would never be
00:18:24deep or long lasting.
00:18:26It'll be temporary
00:18:27as long as,
00:18:28you know,
00:18:28people think
00:18:30that's what it is
00:18:31and then soon,
00:18:32sooner or later,
00:18:33you know,
00:18:33it comes out
00:18:34exactly who you are.
00:18:35So I think
00:18:36being authentic
00:18:39is everything
00:18:40and being authentic
00:18:40doesn't always mean
00:18:41positive.
00:18:43You know,
00:18:43you could,
00:18:44you know,
00:18:44have certain flaws
00:18:45but as long as
00:18:46you're authentic
00:18:47and honest
00:18:48with who you are,
00:18:49I think people
00:18:49will know you're human
00:18:50and they connect
00:18:51to your human side
00:18:52and that's so beautiful.
00:18:54I think being honest
00:18:55is the most easy
00:18:57and magical thing.
00:18:58You just straight away
00:19:00say what you feel
00:19:01and that's what you're taught
00:19:01as a comedian
00:19:02on stage as well.
00:19:03That when you're stuck,
00:19:05even if somebody's
00:19:06during,
00:19:07when you handle a hackler
00:19:08and at times
00:19:10they are funnier.
00:19:11So you rather
00:19:12just be honest
00:19:14at times
00:19:14when you don't have
00:19:15a comeback,
00:19:15just say that
00:19:16I don't have a comeback.
00:19:18You won.
00:19:19Yeah, that's funny.
00:19:19And just move on
00:19:20with the show, right?
00:19:21So being honest
00:19:22is a superpower.
00:19:23It's just,
00:19:23you just be,
00:19:24it's easy
00:19:25and it's simple
00:19:26and it gets you going.
00:19:28Speaking of that,
00:19:29give us an idea
00:19:31about your creative process.
00:19:33How,
00:19:34how do you develop
00:19:35your stories?
00:19:36How do you,
00:19:37where do you draw
00:19:38your inspiration from
00:19:40in your performance?
00:19:42I think I meet
00:19:42a lot of people
00:19:43and I'm,
00:19:44and that's something
00:19:44which really excites me.
00:19:46I think I live for that.
00:19:47I want to do that
00:19:49for living
00:19:49all the time.
00:19:51Like,
00:19:51so there are multiple
00:19:52ways to do it.
00:19:53I think because
00:19:54I do a story,
00:19:55it's more like a film
00:19:56and it is also
00:19:58more like,
00:19:58like,
00:19:59what do you want
00:20:00to say for
00:20:01next two years?
00:20:03What do you want
00:20:03to talk about
00:20:04which is authentic
00:20:05to me
00:20:05and my audience
00:20:06both?
00:20:07It's a collaboration
00:20:08between me and them
00:20:09and it's a growth
00:20:11between me and them.
00:20:13However,
00:20:13I'm growing,
00:20:15they are keeping
00:20:15a track of it
00:20:16and I am also
00:20:18letting them
00:20:18grow with me.
00:20:21So it's a community.
00:20:22It's like a community.
00:20:23We are all
00:20:23growing together.
00:20:25So they know
00:20:25what exactly
00:20:26happened to me
00:20:27five years back,
00:20:28how I'm getting
00:20:29out of it,
00:20:30what next things
00:20:30I want to do
00:20:31and they are all
00:20:32part of it.
00:20:33So my hurdles,
00:20:35my stories,
00:20:36my past,
00:20:37my future,
00:20:38my references
00:20:39to my past,
00:20:40my learnings
00:20:41from my mistakes,
00:20:42all of that
00:20:43come together.
00:20:44All of that
00:20:45comes in a one show
00:20:48which I decide
00:20:50that I want to do this.
00:20:51So that is one thing
00:20:52that you have to
00:20:52pick the topic
00:20:54and what exactly
00:20:55you want to talk about.
00:20:57Like for example,
00:20:57this time I am
00:20:58talking about migration.
00:21:00This time I've decided
00:21:02that I'll talk about
00:21:03migration because
00:21:04I moved from
00:21:05my hometown
00:21:05and a lot of kids
00:21:07have to move
00:21:08from their places.
00:21:10And if you're not
00:21:11the one who
00:21:11has not moved,
00:21:12I want to tell you
00:21:13that you're the luckiest
00:21:14to be very honest
00:21:15because
00:21:16whatever you learn
00:21:18after moving out
00:21:19of your house
00:21:20and being displaced,
00:21:22it can be
00:21:23the most popular thing,
00:21:24you can be
00:21:24the biggest thing
00:21:25ever possible
00:21:25but that emotional damage
00:21:27will not be worth it.
00:21:30So I am trying
00:21:31to convey this message
00:21:32in my comedy special.
00:21:34But there's also
00:21:34so many lessons in there.
00:21:36You learn a lot
00:21:37but I'm saying that
00:21:38at the end of the day
00:21:39when you look
00:21:40and you count,
00:21:42that's not,
00:21:43that lesson
00:21:44was not required.
00:21:44all those learnings,
00:21:47we always have this
00:21:48option of treating
00:21:49our traumas
00:21:50as learnings
00:21:50but
00:21:51it's a choice
00:21:53you make.
00:21:54Oh, I was fucked
00:21:56but I learned a lot.
00:21:59It's a choice
00:21:59you make with yourself
00:22:00so that
00:22:01you feel better
00:22:02about your trauma
00:22:03but actually
00:22:03it is trauma,
00:22:04it's not learning
00:22:05but like humans
00:22:06have this habit
00:22:07of calling our traumas
00:22:08into learning.
00:22:10So most of the things
00:22:10we learn
00:22:11is actually trauma
00:22:12if you can heal
00:22:14the trauma
00:22:15then you're left
00:22:16with the lesson
00:22:17but healing traumas
00:22:19that's also
00:22:20I think I can
00:22:21let go
00:22:22some of the lessons
00:22:23given a choice
00:22:24I would not
00:22:25learn those
00:22:26I wish I didn't
00:22:28learn those things
00:22:28so I think
00:22:29that's why
00:22:30I decide
00:22:31that's part one
00:22:32part two is
00:22:33I meet a lot
00:22:35of people
00:22:35and it makes me
00:22:36very happy
00:22:37I live for conversations
00:22:39I want to talk
00:22:40to as many people
00:22:41I don't want to
00:22:41see yachts
00:22:44I don't want to
00:22:44see mountains
00:22:45I don't want to
00:22:46see rivers
00:22:47plains
00:22:48I want to
00:22:49meet more
00:22:50people
00:22:51I want to
00:22:52chat with
00:22:53more people
00:22:54and at times
00:22:55people will say
00:22:56like oh don't
00:22:57use this joke
00:22:57in your
00:22:58oh don't say
00:22:58this in your
00:22:59comedy
00:23:00I want to
00:23:00tell each
00:23:01one of them
00:23:02I will never
00:23:03use it
00:23:03I don't
00:23:04quote anyone
00:23:05am I meeting
00:23:07people is just
00:23:08a big
00:23:09research
00:23:10of how
00:23:11humans feel
00:23:12about everything
00:23:14it's my
00:23:15personal research
00:23:16which I'm doing
00:23:16I talk about
00:23:17feelings
00:23:18converted
00:23:19into stories
00:23:21and then stories
00:23:22have characters
00:23:23which might feel
00:23:24the exact same
00:23:25thing I picked
00:23:27from you
00:23:27so the words
00:23:30might be different
00:23:30but the feeling
00:23:31is same
00:23:32and when I say
00:23:33that you
00:23:34automatically connect
00:23:35so it's a
00:23:35longer process
00:23:37it takes
00:23:37a time
00:23:38it takes
00:23:38a while
00:23:38it takes
00:23:39me 6-8
00:23:40months
00:23:40for me
00:23:40to develop
00:23:41a show
00:23:41but when
00:23:43it happens
00:23:43oh boy
00:23:44Max
00:23:44I can't
00:23:45tell you
00:23:45how magical
00:23:46it is
00:23:46it's
00:23:48you have
00:23:49it's like
00:23:49an orchestra
00:23:50you have
00:23:52people
00:23:52in your
00:23:53in your
00:23:53hands
00:23:54and
00:23:55they
00:23:56they
00:23:57they listen
00:23:57to you
00:23:58like
00:23:58like you're
00:24:00reading some
00:24:00gospel
00:24:01and they
00:24:02react to
00:24:03each word
00:24:04your smallest
00:24:05of paws
00:24:06your fumbles
00:24:07like
00:24:08they want
00:24:09to
00:24:09they want
00:24:10to know
00:24:10everything
00:24:11you've said
00:24:11between the
00:24:12lines
00:24:12at the end
00:24:13of the show
00:24:14I always
00:24:15aspired
00:24:16and I have
00:24:17somehow
00:24:17I'm sort
00:24:19of reaching
00:24:19there
00:24:19I will not
00:24:20say I have
00:24:21reached there
00:24:21that I
00:24:22always wanted
00:24:23a show
00:24:23should feel
00:24:24very
00:24:24fulfilling
00:24:26like
00:24:26like you
00:24:27some knots
00:24:28of your heart
00:24:29should
00:24:29should be
00:24:30released
00:24:31something you
00:24:33should
00:24:33like
00:24:33you should
00:24:35be in a
00:24:35better place
00:24:36after a
00:24:36show
00:24:37and that
00:24:37is why
00:24:38my motive
00:24:39is
00:24:39I chase
00:24:40feeling
00:24:40I am
00:24:41I'm very
00:24:42sure of
00:24:43my comedy
00:24:43I can
00:24:44make you
00:24:44laugh
00:24:44whatever
00:24:45I
00:24:46that's
00:24:46that's
00:24:47a secondary
00:24:47part
00:24:47but
00:24:48I need
00:24:50to get
00:24:50the emotion
00:24:50right
00:24:51and that's
00:24:52where the
00:24:52magic lies
00:24:53comedy
00:24:54with emotion
00:24:55is what
00:24:56will make
00:24:57them remember
00:24:58you
00:24:59funny
00:25:00funny
00:25:00funny
00:25:01funny
00:25:01funny
00:25:01will never
00:25:02stay
00:25:03but comedy
00:25:04with emotions
00:25:05exact amount
00:25:07of emotions
00:25:07exact amount
00:25:09of truth
00:25:09exact amount
00:25:10of confrontation
00:25:11makes you
00:25:13remember
00:25:13what a lot
00:25:14of comedians
00:25:15don't realize
00:25:15is they
00:25:16want to
00:25:17outsmart
00:25:17they want
00:25:18to
00:25:19continuously
00:25:20do
00:25:20misdirections
00:25:21right
00:25:22which is
00:25:23funny
00:25:24which is
00:25:24very smart
00:25:25writing
00:25:25at times
00:25:26but your
00:25:27audience
00:25:28never
00:25:28trusts
00:25:29you
00:25:29with
00:25:29a
00:25:29statement
00:25:30like
00:25:31in an
00:25:31hour
00:25:32there
00:25:33could
00:25:33be
00:25:33five
00:25:33different
00:25:34jokes
00:25:34of
00:25:34misdirections
00:25:35but I
00:25:36cannot trust
00:25:38you with
00:25:38any statement
00:25:39when you
00:25:40do it
00:25:41for
00:25:41full one
00:25:42hour
00:25:42like
00:25:44that's
00:25:45what I've
00:25:45been observing
00:25:46here while
00:25:47watching comedy
00:25:47in US
00:25:48that they
00:25:49are so
00:25:50obsessed
00:25:50with
00:25:50misdirection
00:25:51joke
00:25:52that every
00:25:52line
00:25:53and then
00:25:53and then
00:25:54when I
00:25:54hear them
00:25:56talk about
00:25:56that
00:25:57oh I don't
00:25:58understand
00:25:58what's
00:25:59working
00:25:59what's
00:25:59not
00:26:00working
00:26:00why I'm
00:26:01not getting
00:26:01views on
00:26:02my reels
00:26:02it's because
00:26:03they're failing
00:26:05to trust
00:26:05you
00:26:06so I think
00:26:07that is
00:26:08trust component
00:26:08is very
00:26:09important
00:26:09and that
00:26:10is something
00:26:11which is
00:26:11a major
00:26:11part of
00:26:12a building
00:26:13of a show
00:26:14and I think
00:26:15when that
00:26:15happens
00:26:15I'm ready
00:26:16with the show
00:26:16so mostly
00:26:17it's that
00:26:17yeah
00:26:17well the
00:26:18trust component
00:26:19comes when
00:26:20an audience
00:26:21knows who
00:26:22you are
00:26:22if they
00:26:23think they
00:26:23know you
00:26:24then they
00:26:24can trust
00:26:25you
00:26:25but when
00:26:26if they
00:26:26don't know
00:26:26you
00:26:26there's
00:26:27there's
00:26:27nowhere
00:26:27to
00:26:28there's
00:26:28nothing
00:26:28to draw
00:26:29from
00:26:29right
00:26:29but you
00:26:30know
00:26:30I have
00:26:30this
00:26:31I have
00:26:31this thing
00:26:31that's why
00:26:32my shows
00:26:32are long
00:26:32because
00:26:3470%
00:26:35people who
00:26:36come from
00:26:36my show
00:26:37are people
00:26:38who ardently
00:26:39follow me
00:26:40and 30%
00:26:41of them
00:26:42have no clue
00:26:43who I am
00:26:43and they've
00:26:44just come
00:26:44that what
00:26:45is the hype
00:26:46about
00:26:46and being
00:26:47a popular
00:26:47comedian
00:26:48that's the
00:26:49curse you face
00:26:50all the time
00:26:50when you're
00:26:51on stage
00:26:51that
00:26:52continuously
00:26:53people want
00:26:54to
00:26:54find
00:26:57it's an
00:26:58Urdu phrase
00:26:58I'm paraphrasing
00:26:59that people
00:27:01want to
00:27:02find
00:27:03insects
00:27:04in the
00:27:05fireflies
00:27:05and now
00:27:07it's an
00:27:08insect
00:27:08it's like
00:27:09right
00:27:09they don't
00:27:11want to
00:27:11see the
00:27:11magic
00:27:11of that
00:27:12firefly
00:27:13right
00:27:14it's true
00:27:15so
00:27:15so for
00:27:17those people
00:27:17story has
00:27:19such a
00:27:19magical
00:27:20power
00:27:20that I
00:27:22see them
00:27:23sitting like
00:27:23this
00:27:23I see them
00:27:24judging
00:27:25I have a lot
00:27:26of artist
00:27:26friends who
00:27:27come for
00:27:27the show
00:27:27and they're
00:27:28analyzing
00:27:29all the
00:27:30while
00:27:30that what
00:27:31is the
00:27:31joke I'm
00:27:32using
00:27:32what is
00:27:32the direction
00:27:33I'm taking
00:27:34the joke
00:27:34or what
00:27:36route I took
00:27:37to have
00:27:37this joke
00:27:38landed
00:27:38in this
00:27:40way
00:27:40and they're
00:27:41just reading
00:27:42in the
00:27:43beginning of
00:27:43the show
00:27:43but that's
00:27:44the best
00:27:45part of
00:27:46the story
00:27:46storytelling
00:27:48is basically
00:27:49inviting
00:27:51everybody
00:27:52in your
00:27:53bus
00:27:53initially
00:27:55so that's
00:27:56why my
00:27:56first half
00:27:56is just
00:27:58pure
00:27:58jokes
00:27:59it's
00:28:00bringing
00:28:02everybody
00:28:03in
00:28:03slowly
00:28:04gradually
00:28:05it's like
00:28:06come come
00:28:06come
00:28:06it's okay
00:28:06it's
00:28:07it's like
00:28:08just sit
00:28:10you'll have
00:28:10a good
00:28:11time
00:28:11come
00:28:11come
00:28:11come
00:28:12you kind
00:28:13of ease
00:28:13into it
00:28:14yes
00:28:14you bring
00:28:15them in
00:28:16you bring
00:28:16them in
00:28:16you make
00:28:17them
00:28:17comfortable
00:28:17and once
00:28:18you get
00:28:19the grip
00:28:19of them
00:28:20then you
00:28:20can take
00:28:21that bus
00:28:21anywhere
00:28:22you can
00:28:22take it
00:28:22in the
00:28:22space
00:28:23you can
00:28:23take it
00:28:23the moon
00:28:23you can
00:28:24take it
00:28:24the oceans
00:28:24you can
00:28:25do anything
00:28:26with that
00:28:26bus
00:28:26but you
00:28:27need to
00:28:27try
00:28:28it's
00:28:28exactly
00:28:28like
00:28:29movies
00:28:29like
00:28:29when
00:28:29when
00:28:30the hero
00:28:30enters
00:28:30a story
00:28:31most of
00:28:32us are
00:28:33thinking
00:28:33that I
00:28:33don't think
00:28:34so
00:28:34does that
00:28:36even happen
00:28:36to anyone
00:28:37like oh my
00:28:38god
00:28:38like these
00:28:39I don't know
00:28:40there's no good
00:28:40movies these
00:28:41days like
00:28:42you're just
00:28:42continuously
00:28:42analyzing
00:28:43you're actualizing
00:28:44what is
00:28:45happening
00:28:45you don't
00:28:46even agree
00:28:47with the
00:28:47character
00:28:48in the
00:28:48beginning
00:28:48and then
00:28:49by the
00:28:49end of
00:28:50the
00:28:50end of
00:28:51the movie
00:28:51that that
00:28:51person is
00:28:52dying or
00:28:53or winning
00:28:53you're
00:28:54because now
00:28:55you're
00:28:56you're on
00:28:56the bus
00:28:57with them
00:28:57so that's
00:28:59the magic
00:28:59of
00:29:00storytelling
00:29:01and I
00:29:01think I
00:29:02have the
00:29:02comfort and
00:29:03luxury
00:29:03because I'm
00:29:04a storytelling
00:29:04comedian
00:29:05I get to
00:29:06do that
00:29:07I love that
00:29:09buddy
00:29:09I want to
00:29:10talk about
00:29:11work ethic
00:29:13yes
00:29:13and a lot
00:29:15of people
00:29:15I think
00:29:16see comedians
00:29:17specifically
00:29:18because we
00:29:18go on stage
00:29:19and we
00:29:20perform
00:29:20and they
00:29:21go oh
00:29:22that's an
00:29:22easy job
00:29:23and I
00:29:24think a lot
00:29:24of people
00:29:24don't understand
00:29:25that 98%
00:29:26of what
00:29:27happens
00:29:27off stage
00:29:28is hard
00:29:29work
00:29:30and it's
00:29:32not the
00:29:32most easiest
00:29:33lifestyle
00:29:33for that
00:29:352%
00:29:35opportunity
00:29:36in our
00:29:37lives
00:29:37that we're
00:29:37in front
00:29:38of our
00:29:38audience
00:29:39and we're
00:29:39connecting
00:29:39and having
00:29:40an incredible
00:29:40magical moment
00:29:41and I want
00:29:43to talk
00:29:43about
00:29:43your
00:29:44work
00:29:45ethic
00:29:46and
00:29:47how is
00:29:48your life
00:29:49you know
00:29:51off stage
00:29:52and you
00:29:53know what
00:29:54is your
00:29:54work
00:29:55off stage
00:29:55like
00:29:56I don't
00:29:57know
00:29:57I think
00:29:58it's
00:29:58everybody
00:29:58else's
00:29:59I'm very
00:30:00blessed
00:30:00that I
00:30:00have reached
00:30:01here
00:30:01I am
00:30:01the first
00:30:03person
00:30:03in my
00:30:03generations
00:30:04of my
00:30:05lineage
00:30:06to have
00:30:07the popularity
00:30:08and prosperity
00:30:10at the same
00:30:10time
00:30:11the money
00:30:11I have
00:30:12and that
00:30:13is something
00:30:14which pushes
00:30:14me so
00:30:15much
00:30:15that I
00:30:17want to
00:30:17work 24
00:30:187
00:30:18I really
00:30:20want to
00:30:20make the
00:30:20most out
00:30:21of it
00:30:21God has
00:30:24given me
00:30:24this opportunity
00:30:25and I'm
00:30:25very thankful
00:30:27for this
00:30:28opportunity
00:30:28and I
00:30:29want to
00:30:29reach to
00:30:31every corner
00:30:32of the
00:30:32world
00:30:32I want to
00:30:33reach to
00:30:34every
00:30:34something my
00:30:36father told
00:30:36me when I
00:30:37was young
00:30:37that you're
00:30:38going to be
00:30:38very big
00:30:39and he's
00:30:41never told
00:30:41me how
00:30:42and how
00:30:42much
00:30:43so I
00:30:45am working
00:30:45hard every
00:30:46day
00:30:47till the
00:30:48time my
00:30:49father tells
00:30:49me that
00:30:50that you're
00:30:52good
00:30:52and I
00:30:56don't see
00:30:56him saying
00:30:57that to
00:30:57me for
00:30:58a while
00:30:58so I
00:30:59am pushing
00:30:59myself very
00:31:00much so
00:31:01that's the
00:31:02ethic part
00:31:02of it
00:31:03that's
00:31:04the primary
00:31:05statement
00:31:06secondary is
00:31:07I think
00:31:08as a
00:31:08stand-up
00:31:09comedian
00:31:09one thing
00:31:10is touring
00:31:10I think
00:31:11for people
00:31:13who are
00:31:13pursuing
00:31:13comedy
00:31:14either in
00:31:15Hindi
00:31:15English
00:31:15or in
00:31:16Farsi
00:31:17should know
00:31:18this
00:31:18as a
00:31:19comedian
00:31:19one thing
00:31:20is touring
00:31:20but touring
00:31:20is just
00:31:21the part
00:31:22of it
00:31:22you do
00:31:24it either
00:31:25on TikTok
00:31:25or Instagram
00:31:26they don't
00:31:28dictate your
00:31:28life or
00:31:29your comedy
00:31:30or your
00:31:30art
00:31:30you are
00:31:31an artist
00:31:32they all
00:31:33are platform
00:31:34they are
00:31:34not personally
00:31:35designed to
00:31:36stop your
00:31:37growth
00:31:37they are a
00:31:38platform
00:31:39and you
00:31:40as an
00:31:40artist
00:31:41should
00:31:41understand
00:31:42and tweak
00:31:43your art
00:31:44in a way
00:31:45that you
00:31:45can use
00:31:46that platform
00:31:46for your
00:31:47benefit
00:31:47rather than
00:31:48being stuck
00:31:49and being
00:31:49becoming a
00:31:50slave to
00:31:51the part
00:31:51it's not
00:31:52about becoming
00:31:53a slave
00:31:54to the part
00:31:55it's about
00:31:56that platform
00:31:58is not your
00:31:59parents
00:31:59that platform
00:32:02is
00:32:02why are you
00:32:03arguing with
00:32:03it
00:32:04it's a
00:32:04company
00:32:05based
00:32:06somewhere
00:32:06in the
00:32:07world
00:32:07who's just
00:32:08trying to
00:32:09get more
00:32:09people on
00:32:09the platform
00:32:10just see
00:32:11what they are
00:32:12trying
00:32:12just see
00:32:13what you
00:32:13have
00:32:14which is
00:32:15palatable
00:32:16for this
00:32:17and just
00:32:17get on it
00:32:18are you
00:32:19trying to
00:32:20tell me
00:32:20that you
00:32:20can't write
00:32:21a joke
00:32:21for a
00:32:21minute
00:32:22like then
00:32:23why are
00:32:23you calling
00:32:24yourself
00:32:24comedian
00:32:25if you
00:32:26don't
00:32:27have a
00:32:28bit for
00:32:28a minute
00:32:28like just
00:32:30write a bit
00:32:31for that
00:32:32and it
00:32:33will help
00:32:33you
00:32:33it will
00:32:35it will
00:32:35really help
00:32:36you
00:32:36so
00:32:36okay
00:32:37I think
00:32:38I don't
00:32:38want to
00:32:39talk about
00:32:39this
00:32:39anyways
00:32:40but
00:32:40so
00:32:41first part
00:32:42is that
00:32:43touring is
00:32:43number one
00:32:44part
00:32:45if you
00:32:46ever get
00:32:46popular
00:32:46that is
00:32:47something
00:32:48which you
00:32:48will
00:32:48have to
00:32:50do
00:32:50and it's
00:32:50very important
00:32:51for you
00:32:51to be on
00:32:52stage
00:32:52try to be
00:32:53on stage
00:32:53as at
00:32:54least
00:32:54more than
00:32:55100 days
00:32:56which is
00:32:57almost 10
00:32:58days in a
00:32:59month
00:32:59types
00:33:01more than
00:33:02100 days
00:33:03be on stage
00:33:03then second
00:33:05part is that
00:33:05you will get
00:33:06a lot of
00:33:07brand work
00:33:08through your
00:33:09social media
00:33:10build your
00:33:12audience in a
00:33:13way that they
00:33:14respect when you
00:33:15do a brand
00:33:15work
00:33:16rather than
00:33:17you being an
00:33:18antagonist who's
00:33:19just trying to
00:33:20mint money
00:33:20earning money
00:33:23is not a
00:33:23wrong thing
00:33:24and
00:33:25it's like
00:33:26be respectful
00:33:27to the
00:33:28brands you're
00:33:28working with
00:33:29for that
00:33:31you need to
00:33:31choose what
00:33:32are the kind
00:33:32of brands
00:33:33you need to
00:33:33work with
00:33:34you should be
00:33:36okay ethically
00:33:36working with
00:33:37them in most
00:33:38cases unless
00:33:39they are paying
00:33:40hefty amount
00:33:40of money and
00:33:41that depends on
00:33:42your necessity
00:33:42and you need
00:33:43that's some
00:33:44that's I think
00:33:44is something
00:33:45which you have
00:33:45to deal
00:33:46personally
00:33:46but be
00:33:49very
00:33:50it's like
00:33:51going to a
00:33:52restaurant
00:33:52the restaurant
00:33:53might have
00:33:54the most
00:33:55amazing pizza
00:33:55but if
00:33:57they throw
00:33:58you the
00:33:58pizza I
00:33:59don't think
00:33:59so you
00:33:59would like
00:34:00to take
00:34:00it
00:34:00especially
00:34:02when brands
00:34:02are spending
00:34:03money to
00:34:04convey a
00:34:05message from
00:34:06their side to
00:34:07your audience
00:34:08you need to
00:34:09be respectful
00:34:09to this
00:34:10transaction
00:34:11you need to
00:34:13convey the
00:34:14brand brand's
00:34:16message with
00:34:16respect yes
00:34:17and also
00:34:18respect your
00:34:19audience by
00:34:20adding up a
00:34:21lot of content
00:34:22in that
00:34:22piece
00:34:23beautifully
00:34:24said
00:34:24yeah
00:34:24there is
00:34:26only one
00:34:27fair
00:34:27dealing in
00:34:29the world
00:34:29which is
00:34:30win-win
00:34:30rest everything
00:34:32is scam
00:34:32don't scam
00:34:34the brand
00:34:35neither scam
00:34:36your audience
00:34:37when you
00:34:39make both
00:34:40of them win
00:34:41you automatically
00:34:42win
00:34:43brand will be
00:34:44happy because
00:34:45you got a lot
00:34:45of engagement
00:34:46people will be
00:34:48happy they will be
00:34:48okay with you
00:34:49having a brand
00:34:50but because you
00:34:51gave them
00:34:51content and
00:34:52this just
00:34:53overall makes
00:34:54you a better
00:34:55artist a better
00:34:56writer it just
00:34:58pushes you to be
00:34:58better like so
00:35:00that is that that's
00:35:01something which you
00:35:02need to deal with
00:35:02I have a fiction
00:35:04show which has
00:35:06been in the third
00:35:07season we have
00:35:08seven writing rooms
00:35:09running right now
00:35:10we are writing a
00:35:11couple of films
00:35:12three more shows
00:35:13and two more
00:35:14seasons of our
00:35:15existing shows I
00:35:16have a podcast
00:35:17and apart from
00:35:20all of this we
00:35:21need to decide
00:35:22how we are going
00:35:23to tour nationally
00:35:23internationally
00:35:24so these are the
00:35:26things which
00:35:28take my day
00:35:29and that is
00:35:30I get up at
00:35:32I start my work
00:35:33in India because
00:35:34in India everything
00:35:35starts late
00:35:35I start my work
00:35:38at 11 and
00:35:40I think
00:35:40I have also
00:35:42realized that
00:35:43people who work
00:35:44with you you
00:35:44have to be very
00:35:45kind and patient
00:35:46with them because
00:35:47they are also
00:35:48trying to help
00:35:49you so you
00:35:50need to be kind
00:35:51to them you
00:35:51need to you
00:35:52need to help
00:35:53them in in
00:35:55making you
00:35:56grow so you
00:35:58wake up at 11
00:35:59o'clock no no
00:36:00no I start
00:36:01working at 11
00:36:02o'clock I wake
00:36:02up at 9 a.m.
00:36:03a.m.
00:36:04oh the way you
00:36:05said I thought
00:36:05you're gonna say
00:36:06I wake up at
00:36:066 a.m. or
00:36:07something no no
00:36:08no I wake up at
00:36:099 and I start
00:36:10working at 11 I
00:36:11need two hours to
00:36:12myself first of all
00:36:13I just need two
00:36:15hours of solace I
00:36:16need two hours to
00:36:17myself it will
00:36:18take me two hours
00:36:19to reboot this
00:36:19system and get to
00:36:20the world it takes
00:36:22me two hours
00:36:22that's amazing
00:36:24that's amazing I
00:36:27want to talk about
00:36:28certain non-industry
00:36:30topics okay I
00:36:32want to give you my
00:36:33observation as a
00:36:35non-Indian if I
00:36:36have to say one
00:36:38attribute of your
00:36:39people that I
00:36:41would say the
00:36:42highest best
00:36:43compliment I can
00:36:44give Indians is
00:36:45that generalizing I
00:36:47think Indians are
00:36:48very humble people
00:36:49yep I think
00:36:51they're very
00:36:51culturally you
00:36:55know custom to
00:36:56be down to earth
00:36:58very humble not
00:37:00so loud not
00:37:01flashy generalizing
00:37:03most Indians have
00:37:05this quality which
00:37:06is very beautiful
00:37:07but in a country
00:37:09like America or
00:37:10certain Western
00:37:11cultures when you
00:37:13are under the
00:37:15radar and you're
00:37:17not you know
00:37:18speaking up so
00:37:19much about you
00:37:20know promoting
00:37:20yourself or like
00:37:21you know walking
00:37:22into a room in
00:37:23some sort of a
00:37:23bang scenario
00:37:25you're underestimated
00:37:28you're not taken
00:37:29seriously and some
00:37:31of these people walk
00:37:32into a you know
00:37:33lobby of a hotel
00:37:34and this Indian
00:37:35guy is a billionaire
00:37:36or he you know he's
00:37:38the CEO of like a
00:37:39massive company or
00:37:40some like genius who
00:37:42just invented
00:37:42something he walks
00:37:44in and nobody
00:37:45even acknowledges the
00:37:48guy because he's so
00:37:49humble and he walks
00:37:52a very down to earth
00:37:55sort of vibe and
00:37:56energy that's a
00:37:57beautiful thing and
00:38:00sometimes I look at
00:38:04this scenario and
00:38:06it bothers me when
00:38:08people don't
00:38:11acknowledge this or
00:38:12or they they take
00:38:14certain people for
00:38:15granted and it
00:38:18makes you kind of feel
00:38:19like man this is not
00:38:21okay yeah anyways
00:38:23that that's the
00:38:23generalization I just
00:38:25made yeah I just
00:38:26pretty much want to say
00:38:27that that's something I
00:38:28admire in Indians
00:38:29thank you very much
00:38:30I'll take that for
00:38:32all of my people but
00:38:33yeah you were saying
00:38:34something what
00:38:34happened today today
00:38:36I mean I go to my
00:38:38hotel's restaurant to
00:38:40have breakfast and
00:38:42I'm sitting at a
00:38:43table a family of
00:38:45Indians come husband
00:38:47and wife and their
00:38:48son adorable they
00:38:50walk in and the
00:38:51hostess walks in
00:38:52goes hi okay here
00:38:54this is your table
00:38:55please have a seat
00:38:56here and the
00:38:57lady the Indian
00:38:58lady she goes oh
00:38:59um she and I'm
00:39:01watching this and
00:39:02she with the very
00:39:03sweet demeanor she
00:39:04goes okay is it
00:39:06possible we take this
00:39:07table both table
00:39:09four seater right
00:39:10next to each other
00:39:11restaurant empty and
00:39:13the lady pauses and
00:39:15she goes no that
00:39:17one is reserved for
00:39:18someone else uh you
00:39:20should sit here I
00:39:21know that and
00:39:22and instantaneously I
00:39:24mean if if this story
00:39:26didn't unfold properly I
00:39:28will tell you it was
00:39:29such an obvious
00:39:30scenario that this
00:39:32lady just said sit
00:39:34here and that's it
00:39:36yeah didn't remotely
00:39:38take these people
00:39:39seriously or I don't
00:39:42want to necessarily say
00:39:44racism but it sort of
00:39:47had an element of
00:39:48racism and why would
00:39:49you refrain from saying
00:39:51that it is racism it is
00:39:52because if it was
00:39:53another sort of type or
00:39:55viable people she most
00:39:57likely would have said
00:39:58okay sure please have a
00:39:59seat here but it just
00:40:01customed or or programmed in
00:40:05this person's head to say
00:40:07no sit here yeah I know
00:40:09these people and and so
00:40:11they sat down it bothered
00:40:13me and I'm looking at the
00:40:17wife the wife looks at the
00:40:18husband and they're in
00:40:19their own little world
00:40:20and I don't know what
00:40:21she's saying but I'm
00:40:22assuming they're talking
00:40:23about this and she goes
00:40:24and then she turns and
00:40:27she looks at me and I
00:40:28just go like this and she
00:40:31locks eyes and I go that
00:40:34just that's just that
00:40:35wasn't cool we know this
00:40:37table is not reserved who
00:40:39reserves a table at 8 a.m.
00:40:41in a restaurant and a hotel
00:40:43restaurant you know what I'm
00:40:44saying like are you kidding
00:40:44me right now like this is the
00:40:46most obvious scenario and
00:40:48and she smiled and she
00:40:49goes yeah it just felt a
00:40:52little rude and the way
00:40:53she said that my heart
00:40:54just melted man and my
00:40:56heart melted and and they
00:40:58were so humble they were so
00:40:59nice and what do they do I
00:41:01thought to myself man now my
00:41:03brain is this I'm like I you
00:41:05know I gotta go tell this
00:41:06lady what is wrong with you
00:41:07like you know I just I have
00:41:09this major thing in me that I
00:41:11like to stand for justice and
00:41:14when I see somebody bully
00:41:15someone or somebody does
00:41:16something wrong to someone
00:41:18or I acknowledge that I
00:41:19feel like it's my duty to
00:41:22to sort of like speak my
00:41:24voice otherwise I'm a
00:41:25coward I do I I was raised
00:41:28like this my father was the
00:41:29same way you know and a lot
00:41:31of times my dad would put
00:41:32himself in in such troubled
00:41:34scenario my mom go what is
00:41:35what is your business he's
00:41:36like but how can I not say
00:41:38anything about this so we
00:41:40sort of have this in our DNA
00:41:42and I see this situation
00:41:43breaks and now I'm fuming I'm
00:41:45like I gotta go up to this
00:41:46hostess and say hey what are
00:41:48you doing and I and I
00:41:49wouldn't do it in a way to
00:41:50embarrass her but in a way
00:41:51that maybe her light bulb will
00:41:53go on yeah you know how do you
00:41:55know like you know you should
00:41:57never to you know treat
00:41:58anybody this way no matter who
00:42:00they are so I'm having this thing
00:42:02build up and I see you know the
00:42:04waitress comes and the husband
00:42:06and the wife with such gentle
00:42:08soft tone of voice they just say
00:42:12and by the way we you know
00:42:14requested if we can sit on this
00:42:15table right here like next like
00:42:18right next to it and the hostess
00:42:20denied us and I just felt a
00:42:21little it felt a little rude and
00:42:23it bothered me I felt a little
00:42:25offended and the waitress said
00:42:27okay no problem I definitely
00:42:29address it thank you so much for
00:42:30mentioning okay no problem and
00:42:31they continue with their
00:42:32breakfast now I'm thinking
00:42:36sitting there going that was so
00:42:38beautiful because if that if it
00:42:40was me I would have ruined my day
00:42:42I would want to react to that and
00:42:45I'm not sure if my reaction to
00:42:49address and confront that would
00:42:52really I'm not sure I'm not sure if
00:42:54that's a more proper thing or what
00:42:55she just did and it kind of just
00:42:58set it and then let it go you know
00:43:00and it was it was such a impactful
00:43:04sort of interaction that it stayed
00:43:07with me half of the day and I'm sure
00:43:10you experience this a lot yeah I do
00:43:12experience a lot I fly first class
00:43:14and I have realized something when you
00:43:17travel to UK US and Australia
00:43:20especially if you're flying first
00:43:22class you have to dress up if you're
00:43:24a person of color like only white
00:43:27people get to be in their pajamas and
00:43:28also fly in first class otherwise if
00:43:31you're a person of color you will have
00:43:33to be well dressed if you're flying
00:43:35first class on my previous trip I was
00:43:39coming from San Francisco to to Miami I
00:43:44think and this is something which
00:43:46happened a couple of times I observed
00:43:48but I did not say anything this time
00:43:50when I was keeping my luggage this
00:43:53lady this air hostess she held my my
00:43:57hand and turned it to see whether I'm
00:44:01sitting I'm keeping my luggage on my
00:44:04seat or not or whether I'm flying first
00:44:06class or not it has multiple layer to
00:44:08it there must be other people who have
00:44:10kept the luggage in the empty blocks but
00:44:14I'm sure there's a context to her
00:44:16behavior as well but at the same time
00:44:20there was this old white lady she was
00:44:21also trying to stop me from doing that
00:44:23it was all happening together like you
00:44:26cannot keep your luggage here hello
00:44:29gentlemen you cannot keep your luggage
00:44:31here and I was just I'm like this is my
00:44:33seat and the air hostess goes like this
00:44:37is not your seat the the the hostess was
00:44:41very lucky to be very honest at the
00:44:42restaurant which you were air if you'd
00:44:45have done with that with me I would
00:44:48have fixed her for life I want to tell
00:44:52you very clearly that this decade is
00:44:54India decade and this decade is India
00:44:57decade in this country we are not
00:45:01somebody we are going to be more
00:45:03assertive my people are going to be
00:45:06more assertive we are already there we
00:45:07have our feet in places we don't fuck
00:45:11around we mean business and we are not
00:45:15taking this shit anymore and in coming
00:45:17years you will see Indian people being
00:45:20respected given more space because we
00:45:22deserve that space we have earned that
00:45:24space and I don't know about others but I
00:45:27am fully game for this battle if it is
00:45:30there any
00:45:31explain that to me what does that mean
00:45:34I'll tell you I'll tell you what happened
00:45:35and then she turned around and then I just
00:45:38confronted her point blank you have a
00:45:40problem with an Indian person traveling in
00:45:42first class and the moment you say that
00:45:44suddenly they're like oh why would I say
00:45:46that why would I have a problem with it
00:45:47and I knew I can see that in their eyes
00:45:50and then while I was sitting there all the
00:45:53flight I just did this tour
00:45:54for good one and a half hours each time
00:46:01when she looked at me I was like
00:46:03I ruined her day I know but I'm saying
00:46:10that you I at times I understand there a lot
00:46:14of people that thank yous and their their
00:46:18sorries are different when they are talking
00:46:21to us our accent is not the same and
00:46:23language is such a beautiful thing how
00:46:27people talk talk in Texas is not the same as
00:46:30how people talk in New York there is a
00:46:33difference of context in the language
00:46:36yeah right there is a local dialect there's
00:46:39a lot to a language of what I have learned
00:46:43how my native language is how we pronounce
00:46:46words and just I don't think so it is funny
00:46:51dialects are not funny pronunciations going
00:46:55wrong is not wrong it's not about my
00:46:58education it is not your pronoun your
00:47:00definition of pronunciation of a word will
00:47:03not define my education and my personality
00:47:05so that is one part of it second part of
00:47:09it is that Indians have made a lot of space
00:47:12in this country and world over we have
00:47:17really worked hard we have adjusted in
00:47:21every different culture of whatever this globe
00:47:24can offer you go to any country even to to the darkest
00:47:29corner to the brightest corners to the most
00:47:33underdeveloping underdeveloped country to the most
00:47:36developing countries you'll still find an Indian
00:47:38restaurant and Indian guy working somewhere
00:47:40having a business running it for himself so that is
00:47:44something which somehow and I'm just I just I'm not I'm
00:47:49I am not somebody who can take guarantee of everybody from
00:47:53India but this is something which I have noticed and and
00:47:58being from the same land just makes me feel connected to all
00:48:02those people that is one part another part is that especially
00:48:06when since the internet has opened we have all learned the power
00:48:12of our existence see 20 years back when the world isn't world
00:48:16was not open we were also unaware how much soft power as people as
00:48:22let me bring everybody in like Desi people from people from India
00:48:27Pakistan Bangladesh Sri Lanka we held we held a lot of power
00:48:32I don't think so we we had any clue about it
00:48:36now when we know I don't think so my people should be taking these things
00:48:42like no it's a it's also a community decision it's like people like you who
00:48:50have a voice who have a stage if this is something you talk about and you
00:48:55motivate your people then one by one these community figures motivate people to
00:49:03speak up for themselves and again there's a difference between speaking up for
00:49:09yourself and attacking people but we're not here to attack you're here to work
00:49:13we're here to work we're here to make a lot of money and we will pay a lot of tax so
00:49:19we are sure of what we are doing it but we treat everybody with respect my
00:49:24culture teaches me to respect everybody and I expect the same out and I think
00:49:29that's the power yeah that is the power see that's what I'm saying like you guys are
00:49:34very lucky that you already sort of have this engraved in you and and you're
00:49:39approaching things from a really wonderful place and you're correcting
00:49:43people and and and and confronting people from the right angle and and when
00:49:50you do that you actually make the world respect you and you don't give them an
00:49:55excuse to to hide their behavior over your behavior so when you with the way you
00:50:01approach that lady the way you said what you said it made her think it made her
00:50:07realize you know maybe I did you know treat this person differently because I
00:50:12assumed he would not I think that is something which comes with a lot of
00:50:15cultural context yeah behavior is so much has to do with where you have come from
00:50:21what is the geography history of that geography and that just in that in that
00:50:27that gets ingrained in your DNA and your behavior if you see the spiritual legacy
00:50:32of my country has been so huge yeah and from there has been so many different
00:50:42sects of spiritual gurus who've been just teaching patience to us there's so much of
00:50:50emphasis in our upbringing to be to be more patient and easy with people and there is
00:50:59so much of competition because there's there is so much so much of population there is
00:51:04equal amount of competition there's equal amount of rat race and there is a
00:51:08spiritual side which is the legacy of the country which is which is I think the
00:51:12spiritual currency we hold for over over the year that's that's our cultural heritage we have and together
00:51:19together when it comes it becomes a cocktail of power which the world is
00:51:24observing right now and it has been brewing from last at least 60 40 years and
00:51:30finally you can see the color there was a first generation which come to came to us
00:51:34which was doctors and engineer then the second generation came which became the
00:51:40the taxi drivers the uber drivers and now the time is the generation of of my age
00:51:47people my friends who are coming here you know what they are so good at their job they are so
00:51:54comfortable with what they do half of them don't even speak english their bosses are indians they are
00:52:01indian they live in indian community settlements they eat indian food they they they have so much of
00:52:09assurance of they are so sure of their jobs they're the best at what they do they are so sure of their jobs
00:52:18they are so secure at what they are doing they own their place they live like that so the generation
00:52:24one builds something for the generation two the generation two has built something for generation
00:52:28three and when this generation has come here everybody from my generation is more assertive
00:52:34everybody from my generation is more comfortable and secure and i think that's the magic everybody
00:52:39will be seeing in next decade and that's where i i would like to sum this up again that when i say that
00:52:45it is going to be an india decade and that's why i say that i love that i love that you say that and i love
00:52:53that um you know you put it out there because it's important this inspires indians it inspires other
00:53:02ethnic people to be motivated by other uh great um energies uh from other cultures that are coming
00:53:11together to be a force in the world i love that i sincerely love that and i just think in general
00:53:18speaking uh you know like you said you know this is the indian you know the next the next decade it's
00:53:26it's the indians world i think uh overall we can say the ethnic background people
00:53:36are really finally coming up in different gender in different places whether they're chinese korean
00:53:45uh iranian um you know whatever background in now because of the world becoming smaller
00:53:54with social media becoming more people becoming more aware of one another now we're seeing and
00:54:02respecting different qualities in different places in the world so everybody's shining in their own way
00:54:09i mean like it makes me so happy like that's what i do in india as well india is multicolored
00:54:16every state is different every state different speaks different language uh and i respect the law
00:54:23of land i want to meet the best artist beautiful when i go to punjab it's it's a state in india
00:54:30which is which has the biggest pop scene in in our region like a country which is our music is so
00:54:39much dominated by bollywood that no other music scene um has enough legs to stand in front of it
00:54:46but punjabi music has been existing for years and years and years and bollywood looks up to
00:54:53punjabi music punjabi music has been providing music so much to bollywood i when i go to punjab i meet
00:55:01every artist i love meeting them that's my way of that's my way of treaty that's my way of showing
00:55:09respect i especially in arts my awareness of max amini existing is because of internet in the world
00:55:18becoming smaller and if i have awareness and i don't acknowledge what am i even doing
00:55:24so this is the magic of internet and this is the magic of world being opened yeah and when the world
00:55:32is open world is but naked right now so you can exactly see what is what and what exactly you want
00:55:40yes and i will say i want to add something to this cultures and countries that are open to other
00:55:48cultures and countries they're going to evolve and you know have a much faster progress than others
00:55:56if you're really closed and you're not open to taking other people's art other people's music
00:56:03other people's philosophy of life uh other people's spiritual um teachings then you're really um
00:56:12shorthanding yourself you you're really not you know helping your community to to see things from
00:56:19different perspectives and grow um it's beautiful to see how indians are so open to other artists and
00:56:29and art forms and naturally they're so so loving in our land there are so many there's a tamilin culture
00:56:38there's a kanadika culture there is a talugu culture that these are all films by the massive
00:56:43diversity in the languages in the languages in the people be in the behavior
00:56:48in the practices in the food there's so much of diversity right there that the program program is
00:56:55that you know that there is somebody like what happens to a lot of uh english-speaking country that
00:57:00you don't even know that there are other the lang other language people exist in the world for like a
00:57:06big part of their life they are unaware uh well we can say this we can say europe also has this quality
00:57:12because you have these uh amazingly different the cultures languages very close proximity to one
00:57:20another so you got germany france i think you can say that in india is europe of asia oh wow yeah
00:57:26it's exactly same you can travel like so we that's what we say in in in india there's that's like a
00:57:33proverb it's a saying in india is like uh that every five miles uh the taste of the water and the and the
00:57:44taste sound of the tongue changes wow so so like for example i know exactly how a language moves from
00:57:53let's say marathi where i live in mumbai and how it becomes i can see that flow of language how it
00:58:02becomes a sindhi and then it moves to dari and then it moves to farsi and how that flow happens how
00:58:10a marathi translates into a malvi and a malvi translates into one sect goes to marwari and another one another
00:58:18branch goes to gujarati and how a gujarati translates to marwari and a marwari translates to
00:58:23haryanvi translates to punjabi like i can see the trans how it's the movement the transfer of dialect
00:58:31is happening so that is something which is part of the part of the land and i have been lucky enough
00:58:36to travel in my country i can be i can say this very proudly that i have traveled i think we're under
00:58:43arrest right now you hear the siren um i have my papers tell me about you oh man um
00:58:53beautiful buddy beautiful thank you so much uh you tell me something about iran like we have a lot of irani
00:58:59people by the way uh my best friend is irani um she does all my clothes uh cheap or whatever if i'm
00:59:06looking fine in any of my pictures it's all because of her and uh a lot of my friends are from iran uh
00:59:13we have a big culture in india of irani cafes yes yes we have a lot of irani cafes and um so the
00:59:22place where i used to live in mumbai used to have an irani cafe right opposite and it served the best
00:59:28food um i don't even know if you are aware of this but in india irani chai is very popular yes yes the tea
00:59:36yeah yeah so you tell me what is your connection with india and how do you know well i would say
00:59:42what iran shares in common in in the way you explain about india is that we also are you know
00:59:49it's a country that in at all times there are different season in different parts of the the
00:59:54country so you see completely different type of languages demographics of of iranians living in you
01:00:03know in the same country so there is such a beautiful love and respect for different cities
01:00:09with their different sort of food and dance and it just we're so different but yet we're the same
01:00:15country so we shared that in common but i would say if i have to say something about iran that
01:00:21personally i would say is the most powerful uh essence of this land is uh the spirituality um
01:00:31this this the history of spirituality in iran where you know rumi and hafez and sadi and and i feel
01:00:40like that's what makes iranians special is this beautiful uh legendary uh of life lessons that has come
01:00:51from you know uh these beautiful names and and every father and grandfather has has you know recited these
01:00:59beautiful poetries for their kids and passed down these philosophies and that's what makes us i think
01:01:04a rich culture true and i'm sure you can you can relate to this as an indian uh when you talk about
01:01:11spirituality and how that is a you know point of power for indians uh i feel like you know that is a
01:01:19that is the most powerful common sort of uh thing that i can talk about here and i truly will tell you
01:01:27the more the more we practice this magnificent treasure that uh our ancestor have left for us
01:01:35the the more uh you know the more powerful the more comfortable the more um you know happily we will
01:01:46live we have such an incredible uh jewel that that is gifted to us i just want to add something
01:01:55for the audience here um while you're listening to this you might be thinking that i am very spiritual
01:02:00or max is very spiritual though we might not be that spiritual to be very honest we are not
01:02:05we are no god men but i want to tell you that you might also here i just want to cut you and just add
01:02:10something right now is that a lot of people listening to me uh in iran and listening to max in india
01:02:17uh while this conversation is going on must be thinking that oh i don't follow rumi that much
01:02:21or must be thinking that oh i'm not that spiritual right now what culture provides you and what most
01:02:27of us are unaware that that cultural currency is so much ingrained in your upbringing and the
01:02:35conversations and everything that you don't even know how that has impacted the things your teachers
01:02:41say the things your parents tell you to do the things naturally automatically a person on the street
01:02:48will randomly say to you is all part of the spiritual cultural legacy we have built in you
01:02:55don't have to go to you don't have to read a scripture for it you don't even have to go to a
01:03:00mosque to to to pray or to a mandir or to a church it is all become the folklore and the part of
01:03:08everybody's daily conversation so you might not feel that spiritual about it but you're still part of
01:03:14that trip absolutely so beautifully said you know that's the gift that we have coming from this land
01:03:21yeah and everybody from that's why i always tell encourage people be proud of where you come from
01:03:27because if you look into your culture and your background you find something incredibly valuable
01:03:32now for us iranians uh when i say this is something that i'm so proud of the spirituality and
01:03:40the teachings and the poetry and and that's our treasure is because every time in my own personal
01:03:47life i've had a massive complex scenario and i've been able to utilize this sort of philosophies of life
01:03:57it's helped me solve my problems and be able to do better in life and feel better so that that's how i
01:04:06am so grateful and appreciative to this background in this culture and so i i will strive to be able to
01:04:17dive deeper into this as i get older and learn more about it and and i'm in no shape or form saying that
01:04:25uh i'm i'm i'm a godly person or a spiritual person in a highly levels no i'm just saying these tools are
01:04:34there for us to use and benefit from this this this availability of knowledge and access to these
01:04:40these ideas is something which makes your life very rich and i think that is something which is very
01:04:46common and you're so right it's so common between iran and india yeah yeah because you guys have such a
01:04:52rich history when it comes to uh hinduism uh meditation and uh the monks the way they live i mean gosh
01:05:03the what i believe is indians have been able to preserve this these lifestyles and these philosophies
01:05:16better than so many other countries in the world that that they also come from you know very spiritual
01:05:21backgrounds but you you your country has been able to keep this custom you know even wearing the the
01:05:27outfits and the sikhs wearing the turbans and living by their philosophies they really have stuck to it
01:05:34uh even in when they have migrated to western countries in different parts of the world they
01:05:39still keep so much to their custom and culture and a lot of people that are ignorant they don't
01:05:45understand it so they they go ah what is this and they'll they'll isn't that very important for a
01:05:51person's personality to to to cling on to their culture it it it it it gives you a lot of uh
01:05:58mental satisfaction it gives you mental emotional grounding when you are still connected to your
01:06:05roots uh regardless to your location because you cannot go you cannot reach somewhere when you don't
01:06:13know where you have started from and i think that is something indians are very good at
01:06:17yes is to always remember where they started from yes and that's that's the power uh that's the power
01:06:25we hold that uh most of the people who live away uh still have a house in india and still try to go
01:06:33back to their roots regardless to wherever they are in the world uh and at the same time talking about
01:06:39the on the the multicultural part the diversity and protecting it over the years it's been part of my
01:06:46learning as well because i went to a christian missionary school a proper catholic school and we
01:06:53prayed to jesus and mother mary till i was 17 wow coming from a muslim household living with most of the
01:07:02hindus i at a very young age knew that there would be multiple people who will be worshiping multiple
01:07:09gods even in hinduism there's so much of diversity of choice they have that they can
01:07:17pray to whoever they want they can choose their god and be their devotee and what religion does to
01:07:25all of us it gives a lot of grounding i think um culturally it just makes more easier
01:07:32yeah absolutely as long as you know religion is a fascinating topic and it's very complex but as
01:07:39my thing is as long as people can achieve the true acceptance of other people praying and having a
01:07:50belief in and religion of their choice and be in absolute respect and acceptance of that
01:07:56they have achieved such a magnificent part of humanity i think we have reached end of this
01:08:03discussion it's now we'll start slipping
01:08:06no i tell you you know um you and i can talk for hours and hours who thought when i first met you
01:08:16it's going to be an all-day conversation yeah so so i'll tell you what happened so max met me at the
01:08:22airport i was waiting for him at the belt uh then he was like hey man my car is here and i was like
01:08:28yeah i'll also call my uber and he was like oh by the way if you want to do you want to ride he said
01:08:34that do you want to ride i was like okay might as well and then we sat in his car he said that let's go
01:08:40for lunch first then went for then we went for the lunch i think uh we had a good meal we spoke for
01:08:48hours and hours and hours and then i don't think so we were still done so then we came to his office
01:08:53which was here and i landed i remember i landed at 10 30 uh in uh in the morning and i reached my hotel
01:09:03by 6 30 yeah yeah so yeah it was all day it was eight hours straight yeah uh first love at first sight
01:09:13affair i think that is something we call it the bromance the yeah yeah yeah definitely yeah that's
01:09:19why i told you that it was very romantic when i saw you for the first time it's like yeah big smile
01:09:23yeah i'm waiting for you why are you not coming i'm so grateful for this sit down and let's do it
01:09:29more often i think i'm sure we'll do it again when i'm back back in u.s catch up every once in a while
01:09:35and share you know where we've been and what's happening what's on our minds because uh i i not only
01:09:42enjoyed this but i think there's such i'm learning so much listening to you and i think it's such a
01:09:47valuable it's it's been such a pleasure to be here on this podcast and to meet you and to have your
01:09:53company i'm very honored right now thank you buddy i love you man love you too cheers cheers
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