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00:00:00Mia Khalifa hi hi thank you so much for joining me today I'm so happy to be here it's so crazy

00:00:07that you are here and I'm so excited to have you on um I want to start by talking about our story

00:00:14together and how we discovered each other how this came to be and like why are we here today

00:00:20you go first I will go first okay so when everything broke out with call her daddy last

00:00:25year I started seeing things about it pop up on my for you page on TikTok and I became obsessed

00:00:32like obsessed consumed everything I could about it I needed to know every single detail and I was

00:00:40just so inspired by your strength through it all and the way you handled everything and especially

00:00:46by that first video you did when you came back the YouTube yes that YouTube video was

00:00:50chef's kiss oh my god thank you I think I saw someone parody it parody it after the Oprah

00:00:58interview saying like they photoshopped the queen onto your face saying the queen after she watches

00:01:02this interview wait I did not see that it was hilarious like it was incredible you showed so

00:01:08much strength and you made me a call her daddy fan that's amazing to hear because I well thank you

00:01:16first of all I had always knew like knew who you were um and then I remember going to follow you

00:01:23and seeing that you followed me and I went to DM you then because I'm like I need to have this girl

00:01:28on the show and then I saw that you had already DM'd me and your DM to me was unbelievable so thank you

00:01:36so much it was basically explaining exactly kind of what she said about the video yeah I mean I just

00:01:40wanted to like I knew I knew you wouldn't see it because at that time you were just getting

00:01:44completely blown up it was I love how you say that and you have like 20 million followers you're

00:01:48like I just like didn't know if you're gonna see it I'm like I'm surprised you even know who I am

00:01:52so thank you very much I think I started it with you'll never see this but yeah no I'm a big fan so

00:01:57thank you and um and I'm a huge fan I to give anyone context right now daddy gang listening I am

00:02:04sitting with Mia in her house right now um and we hung out last night which I think was crucial for

00:02:11this interview because we wanted to kind of go through what Mia is going to be comfortable

00:02:15talking about not talking about and just so it can be an enjoyable experience for both of us and

00:02:20something that you're proud of and you want to put on the internet um because I've seen some of your

00:02:24past interviews and the people that interview are fucking assholes I'm like what the fuck are these

00:02:28people doing so I want to give you a hopefully a different experience today um but as we kind of delve

00:02:35into some topics some are going to be fun call her daddy topics and some will be more serious

00:02:39topics but I just wanted to tell the daddy gang that Mia and I have had a conversation about what

00:02:44she's comfortable talking about today um and the themes that we're going to be talking about hopefully

00:02:49a lot of you will be able to relate so I want to kind of go through Mia you just explaining like your

00:02:56childhood and just where you're from and just giving a little bit of background on like who you are

00:03:01in case people don't know who you are okay I moved to America in 2001 from Lebanon and I grew up

00:03:09as one of the very few brown people in Montgomery County in the school that I went to um it was

00:03:15me and a couple Indian kids and that was it I was the odd one out and everyone was white and Jewish

00:03:21and I wanted to have a bar mitzvah and I wanted to do all of these things that everyone else was doing

00:03:25and eat the peanut butter jelly sandwiches in my lunch bag like everyone else and there was a lot of

00:03:31bullying and a lot of things that ensued after 9-11 happened so my childhood was a little rough I didn't

00:03:38have too many friends I was also extremely overweight and just did not fit in anywhere anywhere um so I

00:03:48turned inwards and I I I don't know I had a lot of shame over being different not being attractive um not

00:04:00getting not getting any positive attention or validation from myself so I sought for it elsewhere

00:04:10and by the time I was 16 I was dating someone who was 23 and

00:04:16you were looking for validation through men yeah and we we'd had a conversation about that last night I

00:04:24think to kind of go through some of your childhood I think is thank you for sharing that because those

00:04:29are like all themes I think that a lot of people can relate to is one being bullied at a young age

00:04:35significantly affects your mental health and the way that you look at yourself in your adolescent years

00:04:40and then affects you if you don't get into therapy or you don't address it it affects you throughout the

00:04:44rest of your life and the decisions that you make and the relationships that you get into um I can only

00:04:50imagine like you're saying you so did you move here around the time of 9-11 yeah in January so by the time

00:04:57school start school started 9-11 happened and being in DC it was did you grow up in New York

00:05:03uh no but Pennsylvania but the northeast the northeast in general I think was differently affected by 9-11

00:05:08than the rest of America because we didn't have school for like a week yeah we got sent home and did

00:05:14not go back for a week did you do those trainings of like if this ever happens again in school like

00:05:18everyone was learning how to like where to take cover in the like rooms it was crazy code red drills

00:05:22yep yep and everyone brought like lunch boxes that you have to like pack to like have in case it was

00:05:27crazy times in the northeast isn't it so wild that we look at like the red scare and how kids were

00:05:32hiding under their desks like oh my god I can't believe they did that meanwhile we're putting up

00:05:36cardboard over the small window in the classroom right there's an active shooter or something

00:05:40times have changed but it's it's kind of same same but different yeah same same but different

00:05:44so was it for you was it so hard coming from where you came from to then come to the United States

00:05:52and then to be in the United States around that time at such a young age like did you deal with

00:05:56bullying around not being from America yeah the accent I didn't lose until like probably middle school

00:06:04so there was bullying surrounding that there was bullying surrounding the way I looked the way I acted

00:06:08the food I brought to school basically everything I just did and I didn't know anything else so I

00:06:13didn't know if I would ever fit in anywhere I thought everywhere was like this so you felt very

00:06:18isolated very so you said you grew up sort of from like a military not a military background but you

00:06:25did go to military school etc high school so you were kind of on like a I wouldn't say like a straight

00:06:30and narrow path but you definitely were not living in a way that like your eyes were on you your parents

00:06:36not were strict but like you're going to military school which and so when you get to your

00:06:42adolescent years you go to college and like can you talk about your experience with weight in college

00:06:48and like the transition from feeling like insecure and not confident in yourself and then having that

00:06:54body image changing in college to getting your boob job oh the crazy thing is my body image didn't change

00:07:00until maybe like four or five years ago even when I even after I lost all the weight between those few years

00:07:08after high school and uh my early 20s I thought it would fix everything I thought it was my boobs that

00:07:13made me feel so low and so self-conscious about myself but after I got my boob that one was a breast lift

00:07:19and implants oh because of my drastic weight loss got it I had 34 triple d's and then I lost 60 pounds and I

00:07:27had 32 a's but I had all of this excess skin to the point where the doctor couldn't put implants and

00:07:33otherwise my nipples would face like my toes so they had to do a lift and then put implants in

00:07:38and did the weight loss also affect other parts of your body not just your boobs yes so many parts

00:07:43like yes so and was that a journey too to try to get back to like what you wanted was that hard for

00:07:50you to struggle with it was really hard for me to struggle with especially having so many friends my age

00:07:55right seeing their bodies compared to mine I I looked like I had three kids like I had I still have

00:08:01all of this excess skin and stretch mark the stretch marks I don't care about it's it's the

00:08:06it's what my skin does when I sit and when I move certain ways that you can tell that's like there's

00:08:12no way to fix that other than having it surgically removed right and I lost the weight in the worst

00:08:16possible way what do you mean how did you do it not eating just being completely unhealthy abusing

00:08:21laxatives just doing all of these things to put my body through the wringer and lose this weight so

00:08:26drastically where how where were you like mentally in that state of your life hated myself I couldn't

00:08:32I there wasn't a version of me that I could see in the mirror and be okay with I didn't see the person

00:08:37that was actually there in the mirror even though I had already lost 60 pounds I looked like a

00:08:42completely different person I did I still saw that chubby girl that I kind of hated and was ashamed of

00:08:50and I didn't feel as pretty as I was so whenever I got attention from men I felt like I need to hold

00:08:56on to this I'm gonna lose it I might not ever get it again like I don't know when this will pass again

00:09:00it's like a shooting star I need to hold on to this and do whatever I can to make them happy so that I

00:09:05can keep getting this because you hadn't gotten any of that while you were younger yeah if anything

00:09:09you were getting shamed about your body yes so to get any type of positive reinforcement about the

00:09:14way that your body looked from a man was something that you had not experienced so it was like

00:09:18something again I get what you're saying you wanted to hold on to yeah that's a lot of weight

00:09:22to lose obviously yeah and we had talked last night a little bit about your struggle with body image

00:09:30and having openly saying you were comfortable talking about having an eating disorder and I think

00:09:35so many women struggle with weight in general but to acknowledge and understand that you have an

00:09:43eating disorder like can you kind of walk us through that journey and how you've well you're saying

00:09:48it's been the past what four years you started to really love yourself can you kind of talk us

00:09:53about like what that journey has been for you therapy I love therapy you said that last night

00:10:01you like therapy me and I I was like nervous to ask her because I'm like oh god like is this rude

00:10:06to ask if you know we need to normalize asking people yo are you in therapy right I don't want

00:10:09you in my life unless you're in therapy are you actively working on yourself last night I looked

00:10:13at me and when she said yes I was like okay now I fuck with you this is amazing we get along

00:10:17and then to ask each other like oh are like our significant others in therapy and we're like

00:10:22absolutely I was like I will never date another guy that isn't in therapy no you're like you don't

00:10:26understand yes so you got into what age did you get into therapy 2016 okay like five years ago I was

00:10:3523 24 maybe got it um and it completely changed my life and I I've heard I've heard you say you need

00:10:41to try different therapists totally and I fully agree with that it's like dating yeah it's like

00:10:45dating it's like having a trainer it's like having a dermatologist like you're not just going to mesh

00:10:50with the first one you go and that's okay yeah so your experience with therapy has helped you dealing

00:10:56with that body image not just the body image well a lot of other shit yeah yeah everything seems to tie

00:11:02back to shame yeah it's the most powerful emotion a human can experience yeah it's crippling it's

00:11:09debilitating it can change the way you look at yourself you look at others you it's the number

00:11:15one thing that you should probably work on if you have any other surrounding issues yeah everything

00:11:20leads back to shame well I that's what I wanted to talk about so daddy and Mia and I had a conversation

00:11:25I think we're sitting here and obviously there is an event in your life that happened that

00:11:32I'm sure you're tired of talking about um and it has definitely affected your life and and everyone

00:11:38listening you may or may not know about that event we're not here to talk about the event I almost

00:11:44want to start now like after this big event after this this porn scene goes viral who was that girl

00:11:53the minute that goes viral and like from then to now because last night you were saying you're the

00:11:57happiest you've been in your life to have the most isolating feeling like you're alone you have

00:12:04people sending you death threats you have your family at the time not supporting you where like where

00:12:11was your head at and like how did you get here today you know what I'm saying like a lot of people

00:12:14wouldn't have been able to get through that mentally and and your mental health I'm wondering like

00:12:19where were you mentally post that video so I don't know where I was because that is around the time

00:12:27that I started dissociating and just compartmentalizing everything and pretending like things never

00:12:34happened to the point where I didn't even talk about porn for the first like three years after I just

00:12:40went quiet never spoke about it anytime I would do an interview that was the one thing they were not

00:12:46allowed to ask me about I refused to even acknowledge that I did it and it wasn't until therapy

00:12:52that I realized how detrimental that is I can't just scooch things under the rug and hope that they

00:12:57go away that's not how it works you have to face them head on and acknowledge them and talk about them

00:13:03it's it's that feeling of like I don't want to talk about it because I don't want to bring attention

00:13:07to it but I need to talk about it because I need to explain myself because everyone is just

00:13:12misinterpreting the whole thing right so it's that catch-22 of not wanting to bring it up and

00:13:18needing to bring it up because it's the it's like the elephant in the room everywhere you go

00:13:22right I remember last night you saying like you're at first the the your your pseudo name Mia at first

00:13:30was like hard for you at times to hear because you're like oh my god it probably brought you back

00:13:35to those days in porn and being like I don't really want to associate with that person we were joking it

00:13:40was almost like the Miley Cyrus Hannah Montana effect where like you're living two different

00:13:44lives yeah and that mentally can fuck with someone yeah like even if I'm saying like at times on my

00:13:50show I act a certain way and then behind closed doors if I'm a certain way like if you're living

00:13:54two different lives it can directly affect your mental health and it's like well which one who do

00:13:58you address first Mia or who you actually are and like how much of Mia is you so I guess I'm trying

00:14:05to understand like as a young woman feeling so alone in those moments like if you were kind of not

00:14:11thinking about it what were you doing in your life post that video like where did you go like what

00:14:18were you doing how were you making money I was working as a paralegal at a law firm and then I was

00:14:25working as a bookkeeper at a construction firm and then I was like okay I'm tired of living in this

00:14:31$500 a month efficiency it was disgusting it was so bad cockroach infested it was the worst times of

00:14:37my entire life and you were not really making money no no that was like such a like such a topic on the

00:14:43internet of like how is this girl lying about how much money she was making which I know you were

00:14:47vocal about how you basically didn't make any money from this the videos that you made and then they

00:14:51ended up making so much money and like whatever that topic was I'm sure hard for you because then

00:14:56you're living and slumming it yeah in a place that you're like everyone thinks I've made it like I'm not I don't have

00:15:01shit to my name right now followers on Instagram everyone thinks I'm living it up like that is not

00:15:05the case and you had lost your Instagram I did yeah it got hacked when it got hacked and then I

00:15:10I didn't I didn't create one for like a year and then I created one in 2016 when I decided to move to

00:15:16Austin why did you decide to come back to social media because I knew at that point there is no

00:15:23turning back everyone knows who I am right I can't work anywhere that's why I left the law firm job it was

00:15:28very uncomfortable for me to work there well actually the company dissolved but I was very

00:15:32uncomfortable working there can you explain that experience yeah it's very weird to go into a job

00:15:37interview thinking oh I'm just going to go back to normal life and having the interviewer ask you if

00:15:43if you if you did porn right there is nothing oh you think they're asking that because they knew

00:15:49yes yeah they recognized me and I went to a couple interviews where some comments were made and then I

00:15:54finally got a job at the law firm and then I got a job working for a friend's company at the

00:15:59construction firm and then I just realized I you feel uncomfortable I feel uncomfortable everywhere

00:16:05I go like I can't be sent into the field they have to be careful about who they let in the office

00:16:10because some subcontractors are creepy like I started to feel like a burden on the person who was

00:16:15taking a chance on me and giving me a job wow to say you felt like a burden to the people that were

00:16:21giving you a job yeah you are an educated smart woman who deserves to be at that job you made a

00:16:28decision in your life that a lot of women make oh I've made a sex tape with a boyfriend and maybe

00:16:36it didn't happen to go viral but there was a chance people's nudes get released people decide to do porn

00:16:41and back to the point of you being a paralegal the fact that you were a paralegal Mia like you're

00:16:47I didn't say I was a good one no I I know you were a good one no but I can tell you're a smart

00:16:53educated woman so like I that was the first thing when I sat down with you last night I was like this

00:16:58girl's fucking smart and the same way about you so but it's it's crazy to then think that you had to

00:17:04feel you couldn't fully get into a job and allow yourself to go full force at a job because you were

00:17:11being haunted by a decision you made in your past yeah um after you left and decided to get back into

00:17:17social media what was your like mindset like who did you want to present to the world were you

00:17:22thinking that you were going to have to completely remake yourself or you knew people were going to

00:17:26comment like how did you think how did you kind of strategize the way I got myself to Austin was I

00:17:31started camming and I cammed in Austin for about a year before I decided okay I I don't want to do

00:17:38anything nude ever again can you explain camming to people that don't understand it's just like

00:17:43oh I had a very different experience with camming okay um I was probably the worst cam girl in

00:17:50history Mia I love the authenticity I would leave the camera on in my empty room and hear like the

00:17:58tips go off knowing that they're trying to get my attention to come back in but I'd be watching

00:18:01Netflix in the living room shut the fuck up you're like guys this is an unbelievable episode of

00:18:07America's Next Top Model I can't miss it hold your money I'll be right back so you were just like

00:18:12not invested in it no I was I would no the entire time I was doing it I was trying to get my foot in

00:18:18the door doing other things like I was writing uh for this website called fansided I think their

00:18:26website hasn't been updated since like 2005 it's just it's so bad but I was writing this like weekly

00:18:31column of my top seven picks in football and doing all of these things so you're trying to venture

00:18:37out while also being like okay I need to try to make a living and I'll try to do camming while

00:18:41I'm trying to figure out where can I place myself and where will I be able to fit in not something

00:18:46sexually oriented yeah and Complex took a chance on me and they gave me a little gig hosting a show

00:18:51with my hero Gilbert Arenas that's amazing also yeah it went well so you're living in Austin

00:18:56you go from camming trying to now find jobs you get a couple gigs then where does your career

00:19:03take like where does it take you so you decide I'm done with camming yeah when did you make the

00:19:07decision was that when you made the decision like I'm completely done with anything sexual

00:19:10yes got it I think it was June 17th 2017 were you nervous like in that decision no no because I gave

00:19:18myself a one-year timeline and I did it in 11 months what do you mean a one-year timeline I only

00:19:23wanted to cam for one year and if I didn't figure it out that fucking sucks I guess I have to move back

00:19:27into an inefficiency got it so you're saying you gave yourself one year of like you can rely on

00:19:33this like sexual aspect of your career but once that's it's done yeah and we when you're saying

00:19:37Austin how did you end up in Austin because you're saying I'm oh everything happened in Miami all like

00:19:42got it my worst years of my life were played out in Miami Florida do you ever go back there I went

00:19:48back once oh my god is it like scary it's so scary it also changes very fast right I felt like

00:19:56I mean I only lived there for I only lived in Miami for three years but I felt like an outsider going

00:20:01back right and it must be like kind of like like PTSD a little yes yes I'm very sensitive to number

00:20:09one smells and number two places right so anytime I drive by a place where like something happened or

00:20:15like I have a memory it's like a visual trigger yes very so being back in Miami was like god there

00:20:22was streets I couldn't drive down there was places I couldn't go to food I couldn't order

00:20:26we said we're gonna keep it vague but toxic manipulative relationships and men in your life

00:20:33what do you think was like the reason you got into them and how did you get out of them I got into them

00:20:37because I didn't think highly of myself I thought that that was the best that I deserved and even more

00:20:44than that I thought let me overextend myself and over deliver and over just just do everything to

00:20:52the extreme to keep this person happy because they are the best that I can do right I can't do any

00:20:57better how did you get out of like one of your most toxic relationships my most toxic one I actually

00:21:04got out of around the same exact time that I got out of porn because I came to the realization that

00:21:10these these these two things correlate right and I would not be here if it wasn't for the other thing

00:21:20so recognizing that made me it made me it made me grow pretty fast because it made me realize a bunch

00:21:30of other things about myself and the decisions I make but I think the the most that I took away from

00:21:36it was I have not been thinking for myself and I have been making decisions with other people's best

00:21:45interests in mind not my own I've been trying to please people who aren't worthy of that instead

00:21:50of taking care of myself and standing up for myself dude that's so profound too because when I think back

00:21:57to our conversation last night of you being saying it went hand in hand with deciding you were done

00:22:02with porn deciding you were done with a relationship the way that you've spoken prior to like about

00:22:10that effect it had on your life it also makes sense then like how you almost probably felt like so out

00:22:17of control of like wait wait and and I feel like everyone may have those moments in your life where

00:22:22you go a little too far like you're dating the bad boy for a little too long and then you're in jail

00:22:26right literally and then you're in jail or you wake up and you're like oh god like I've been partying

00:22:30too hard and now I'm in jail or I got a DUI and like you went after the video came out how long

00:22:36after did it take you to be like what am I doing it took it took a month or two yeah it took long

00:22:44enough for me to realize I'm being put in danger yeah I'm just going along with what people want to do

00:22:50and I'm putting myself in danger like these aren't shackles I don't I don't have to be here no one no one

00:22:56can force me to do this if I don't want to and as soon as I realized that I I knew I could get out

00:23:02but do you feel like what the minute you knew you get out and I guess that's where it almost goes then

00:23:07to what we had been talking about about your job like a lot of girls I feel like don't get out of

00:23:12it regardless of whether it's porn or a bad relationship or maybe you're not happy where you

00:23:18are in your life at like a job or college like the the concept of getting out of something when you're

00:23:24so deeply not only deeply ingrained but then in your situation to the extreme of like

00:23:27can I get out yeah is there where am I going if I get out into an efficiency in North Miami

00:23:34you're moving into the cockroach infested efficiency that's how you get out right and so then you're like

00:23:39so so that that's what I'm trying to understand like as a young you're 21 yeah as 22 as like a young

00:23:47female with you don't have the finances to be like oh I'm out of here I'm gonna go get myself a nice

00:23:52apartment a lot of girls usually cling to bad relationships or in your case stay in something

00:23:58because they're like I have nothing else how low mentally you had to have been to then how strong

00:24:07you were to be like as low as I am I can't stay here did you ever think once you went to the efficiency

00:24:15to be like I should I just go back no you didn't no and I I did absolutely nothing for a year I didn't

00:24:22decide maybe it wasn't even maybe I should go back it was more so like I I rationalized what

00:24:28camming was and I knew that I could do it from a place where I felt safe I could do it from my home

00:24:34I don't need to see anyone or interact with anyone and I can I can do what I want to do right so I

00:24:40rationalized that as this is the best decision I can make for myself in my life right now now I made

00:24:46the decision in a bad way I could have completely done it on my own but instead I went back to a

00:24:53place I should not have and worked for them got it people that yeah that you've known prior and that

00:24:59was my biggest mistake had did you I'm interested to know because I think like the the theme of

00:25:06loneliness I'm sure maybe you can tell me if I'm wrong but maybe that was probably the loneliest time

00:25:11in your life yeah did you have any friends that like girlfriends at the time or were you so isolated

00:25:19I was so isolated I had no one but the guy I was dating at the time and even then my only friends

00:25:26were were his friends so I had no women I had no girlfriends I didn't really speak to anyone from

00:25:34back home right my family wasn't talking to me I just had these two dogs I've had I've had these two

00:25:40dogs since I was 18 19 do you understand how that sounds like I'm trying to like I have so much

00:25:46respect for you because I'm like you decide to leave the porn industry your family is not in your

00:25:52life at that point you have a boyfriend that wasn't obviously the best decision you're also saying so

00:25:57like you're alone how like how did you mentally where like you were just blacking out like where

00:26:05how did you even cope with that like I'm I feel so I want to give that girl a hug I feel like any

00:26:11female being by I mean man or female like being by yourself in that moment having no one to turn to

00:26:16no girlfriend you can call and cry to like who were you crying to yourself and you're like how

00:26:21literally myself and that little efficiency on the Ikea bed like I I spent so much time in my in my room

00:26:28just crying or going for drives because I felt pretty free being able to drive and having a car

00:26:35um and at that time did you go out in public and people knew who you were I was that was that was

00:26:40one of the things that made me feel even more isolated I was so scared of going out in public

00:26:44because I was alone most of the time I saw my boyfriend Saturday Sunday that was it uh you know if

00:26:50if I saw him that week but I was alone most of the time I was scared to go to the grocery store I was

00:26:55scared to go do laundry I was scared to go do anything that required me getting out of the

00:27:00confines of either a car or my four walls because I had already been at that point followed to my car

00:27:06death threats rape threats everything you can think of like thinking at the time being banned from my home

00:27:12country like them literally saying you are not welcome back on our soil like all of these things

00:27:16that made me feel like no one knows what I'm going through and I don't want to tell anyone because I

00:27:23don't feel like I don't feel like the people I do talk to about it will be able to to fathom what I

00:27:30mean when I say I feel alone like I I feel alone globally not just like oh I'm lonely right it's not

00:27:39like oh I'm feeling lonely tonight I am I am it wasn't until I started talking about it that I realized

00:27:44so many people feel this way for so many different reasons right you don't need to have

00:27:50twitter completely against you or an entire army on the internet coming after you for you to feel

00:27:56this way it can be something as small as your family just looking like girls that oh or men

00:28:03you have a family member that doesn't want to accept you and you feel only or you have a bad

00:28:08relationship with your parents or your friends you lose a friend group or you're in college and you

00:28:13find out that your best friend was talking shit on you and now it's like do I need to find a new

00:28:17friend group those are obviously lower to what your extreme was but like the concept of feeling

00:28:21so alone and having no one to go to is something every single person listening to this podcast can

00:28:27relate to everyone is fighting a battle that they feel like telling someone about they won't understand

00:28:32when you I guess it's just fascinating to me you being in that low place because like I said I have

00:28:37so much respect like how we're now sitting in this amazing house like what do you have anything you

00:28:43remember other than those drives are amazing that you're saying you took um was there anything else

00:28:49that you would like have in your brain that kept you going like did you have a goal or did you have

00:28:56like what was what was in your mind of like I am so alone globally and I'm getting banished from where I

00:29:03was literally born like where did your head go to like what kept you going in those moments

00:29:08I I don't know my number one my dogs like what kept me alive and kept me from actually giving into

00:29:16thoughts that were entering my head was literally my dogs I had no next of kin at that point I thought

00:29:21like I had no one to take them I was the reason that they would be alive every day so they consumed my

00:29:27entire life and I love them so much especially this one my first born you you asked me yesterday who's

00:29:34your favorite I was like my first one but like right I know but I I had to ask so your dogs which

00:29:41like people can like laugh I think that's like very like reasonable are you kidding me a bond with an

00:29:46animal absolutely makes sense my dogs and finding communities online like I found a little sports

00:29:52community and I found I just found different different places online that I felt like I could be

00:30:01myself and be at home and I didn't really start to feel like I had a place in the world until I met

00:30:07my best friend in the entire world Rachel oh who by the way is freaking out that I'm on this show we

00:30:12really yes shout out Rachel shout out Rachel Ray I fucking love you wait Rachel Ray not the chef

00:30:17Rachel Ray not the chef and not the girl that Jay-Z cheated with oh my god I was like that was her

00:30:22Instagram bio for the longest time stop wait that is actually amazing I'm like Rachel Ray like

00:30:28really wow wait how did you meet Rachel online on Twitter we started DMing each other one day we

00:30:35realized we were wearing the she posted a picture on her on her Twitter and then I posted one on mine

00:30:39and we realized we were wearing the same thing so we literally DMed each other should we move in

00:30:44together stop and I said yes I'll move to Austin right now so that is when I up and decided I'm moving

00:30:50to Austin I have a life in Austin now I have a friend I have my first girlfriend in years

00:30:56wait that's so interesting because I'm going back to social media for a lot of people is the

00:31:05antithesis of everything they're like I hate it so much it makes me feel small at that point

00:31:09it was your escape completely because you didn't have to leave your house it felt weird saying

00:31:14social media was my escape because social media was probably it's like the internet spawn of the most

00:31:20of my pain right but but in the beginning when you that I'm dude the fact that you couldn't go

00:31:25outside and you felt so unsafe did you was it also safety but was it also like not I wouldn't I don't

00:31:34know if it's the word paranoia but um like does that has that man watched my video like is he staring

00:31:40at me through my clothes type shit my anxiety would completely take over and I couldn't look anyone in

00:31:46the eyes without wondering oh my god how do they know right do they know have they yeah those thoughts

00:31:51oh like even even being in this room right now like I that that goes through my head right and makes me

00:31:57feel uncomfortable to like walk by people or get too close right like all of these things like

00:32:01wondering like oh did they have they googled me before like have they looked at my shit before like

00:32:06is that something that like still stays with you today yeah and you're working on that there I am

00:32:11working on it yeah I try and ground myself when my when my thoughts go to that and I try and think

00:32:17and right yeah like where where what has you have you gotten in therapy from that like where do you

00:32:25are you trying to get mentally when you go out and because I imagine public settings for you I

00:32:31understand now like full PTSD anxiety driven yeah has this person looked me up before not that there's

00:32:37any fucking thing wrong with it but understanding that in the beginning after that video came out

00:32:41judgment societal judgment and shame was put on you you can feel however you want about it and you can

00:32:46have your oh I shouldn't have done that or oh I wish I had but for other people to place judgment on

00:32:52you that's where I have the issue of like why do people continue to bring it up nothing is changing

00:32:57from the decision you made and to be the woman you are today it frustrates me to see people still

00:33:02commenting on a decision you made seven years ago if we all fucking brought out our skeletons in the

00:33:06closet and continue to bring them up every fucking time you post a picture or something it frustrates

00:33:11me that that is one negative social media that they can make things live forever that don't need to

00:33:16live forever people grow people change um and again like I said you did nothing wrong so I guess the

00:33:23Rachel you finding a friend because that's I mean any daddy gang listening like I think back to like

00:33:29you're saying you didn't have a girlfriend it was the first time I felt unconditional love in

00:33:34probably since I was a teenager so you meet online did she know who you were yeah yeah we met on

00:33:40Twitter like she full-on knew who I was right from the beginning did not care and from the beginning

00:33:45was my bulldog and she was the only reason I was able to go out and enjoy things in Austin because for

00:33:51the first time in my life I felt like I have someone in my corner if like something happens or if

00:33:55someone comes up to me and tries and tries to do something or say something right because prior to that

00:33:59you had been fully alone and then any man in your life was also had a hidden agenda so trust also

00:34:05issues must be huge for you she really helped me rebuild my trust in people in general and I think

00:34:11that if it wasn't for her I wouldn't be in a place in my life where where I could where I could have

00:34:18someone who deserved me right that's interesting I think like it's so crazy because friendship is so

00:34:27underrated because I feel like a lot of time in the podcast I'll talk about like who is your

00:34:31significant other and half the time you couldn't maybe have gotten to a place to have a significant

00:34:36other had you not found Rachel first yep because Rachel was showing you unconditional love and I'm

00:34:41sure the relationship and the dynamic between you and men was so threatening to you mentally at the time

00:34:50from what you had just gone through so then to have a female in your life maybe that was like the best

00:34:55opportunity for you to like start to put your toe in the water of like can I trust people now let's

00:35:00talk a little bit about with regard to your relationships um I know you had mentioned that

00:35:05you had a very toxic relationship that was um you were young and whatever and you felt like it was

00:35:11very strange imbalanced relationship of him being older you being younger I've had I've been in three

00:35:17relationships in my life including my my me and my husband right now got it um the first relationship

00:35:24I was ever in was the most naive facade of a relationship you could ever imagine I don't I

00:35:32don't even want to call it a relationship because I was I got married four days after my 18th birthday

00:35:37yeah if a guy ever says you're mature for your age fucking run run the other way and call the police

00:35:42probably just to be safe right just to be safe just double oh so someone used to say to you you're

00:35:47mature for your age oh my god yeah that is like that is I'm too old for you but I'm not cool enough

00:35:54for any girls my age like the motto belittling of you no that is that is their motto that's like

00:35:59what they wear on the patch that lets others know hey I'm a groomer right like I'm going for younger

00:36:04girls yes and you're so mature for being a younger girl yes oh you're so mature for your age you started

00:36:10dating when you were 16 yes oh that's fucking young as shit yeah it was so you kind of were like

00:36:14unaware even of really what you were doing and then I was immediately thrown into the wife role

00:36:18and the I need to please him keep him like do all of these things to make to not make him lose

00:36:26attention or to to not make him lose his focus on me right his interest yes because I I mean

00:36:32we talked about it but do you do you think that was um half in your head half the way he was treating

00:36:39you or was it fully by the way he was treating you or do you think it was still in that self

00:36:43validation like I need him to love me love me I think I was vulnerable enough right to where

00:36:47everything that he tried went through like a hot knife and butter got it it was just too easy

00:36:54because I was so low mentally yeah I didn't see anything in myself I didn't see anything special

00:37:00or worthy or important and I just I let him tell me what I was worth that's like a deep ass statement

00:37:09because we talked about that last night I remember we were exactly we were standing in the kitchen

00:37:12and we talked about how how unhappy you are with yourself directly affects the partners you choose

00:37:19yeah and that's why it's so important to have you don't have to have a lot but like friends around you

00:37:27and that's probably why it was hard for you to get out of these things too because like you said you

00:37:31didn't have anyone to be like hey um Mia yeah I was so isolated he moved me across the country and

00:37:37I didn't I was in a completely different time zone than everyone else I ever knew I was in a new place

00:37:42every like couple years it was it was insane do you have any advice for women that feel

00:37:48they are in a they because it's so fucking hard to see when it's toxic oh yeah and then the toxic

00:37:55becomes addicting and you don't know how to then have a normal healthy relationship but do you have

00:37:59any advice for like one like how how to get out like it's not easy like and it's a process and I

00:38:06know friends and and family members who have been in toxic situations that it's like it's okay if it

00:38:11takes you a year to first start self-actualizing and having the conversation like how would it look if I

00:38:17leave him and how would this and and your safety and what's going to happen like there's so many things

00:38:22that go into leaving but for you specifically using your own story like how could you help younger

00:38:28women or or women that are married right now who fucking knows how old you are young you are

00:38:33how did you personally be like enough is enough like what was that journey for you looking like

00:38:38to get out of a toxic situation in a relationship because I couldn't imagine going back to the way

00:38:44things were after I after I came to the realization of this is this is not me this isn't what I want to

00:38:49do and it'll be hard and scary and I do not know what that road looks like like at all right I was

00:38:57fucking terrified but I knew that I could not go back to that relationship because it would still be

00:39:02that same vicious cycle of right the his perverse thoughts and his fetishes and all of these things

00:39:09that I no longer wanted to be a part of or play into or placate or pretend like I had interest in

00:39:16right because at that point I realized you don't deserve me I am better than you yes full judgment

00:39:23yes bitch I'm so much better than you yes oh my god I want to like cry but it's so hard to tell

00:39:30women like you're better than that what you need is to it's first working on yourself to even know

00:39:36what you need and who you are not just working on yourself but talking to the people around you and

00:39:41not being stuck in that in that mindset of they're not going to understand if I tell them they're

00:39:47going they won't be able to comprehend the things that I'm going through yeah take that step it's

00:39:53scary but take that step and talk to people first a relationship I wanted to talk to you about in the

00:39:59sense of like unconventional sex and things that you know there are some girls that are like hey like

00:40:06my boyfriend um wants me to peg him is he gay like you've had sexual relationships where or a

00:40:13sexual relationship where you were like oh this was different yes and and the process of how it

00:40:18transpired and how it unfolded and him explaining to you what he wanted um can you can you explain that

00:40:24because I think it's not we're not shaming anyone it's almost like you want to explain the process of

00:40:30how it was presented to you yeah and in a in an accepting way like we want to talk about it's

00:40:36call her daddy like can you explain what that dynamic was sexually it was the most unconventional

00:40:42and eye-opening sexual dynamic I've ever been a part of and I'm not going to say who the person was

00:40:49you don't need to um but I do feel like it was very much a shared experience and I was I was I was 50%

00:40:56of that great and it then becomes one of my life experience as well and I treasure it and I'm still

00:41:04curious about it yeah so I want to talk about it because I've never talked about it yeah yeah I had

00:41:11a relationship with a guy who was very curious about being the woman in the relationship and

00:41:18dressing dressing the part acting the part to the extent of me pegging him and me playing the part of

00:41:25the man yep and it started very gradually like early in the relationship testing the waters with

00:41:32just my underwear and then it extended into my lingerie and then it extended into getting him

00:41:38his own lingerie and his size and then it went into full-on wardrobe and outfit and shoes and wigs

00:41:46like really good quality wigs I feel like well we're spending a lot on this this is high quality

00:41:50sex baby four hundred dollars on a wig one holy shit so and and um me as walk us through because

00:41:56I remember you had said like how did how did he first engage like how did he first let you know

00:42:01that he was interested in this like it was so minor basic right it was yeah it was like very small steps

00:42:06right and I think he at the same time was was experimenting with it I don't think it was something

00:42:13that was he was also you're saying like coming to this in his own like he had never fully gone through

00:42:17this so we were very vocal with each other about about what we wanted to try next and what he wanted

00:42:23to do next and I just kind of was like down this is your safe space I you tell me what you want to

00:42:30do next and I will do what I can to make that a safe comfortable enjoyable experience for you

00:42:36that ended up being the only relationship where I was cheated on in my life like that was one of the

00:42:40worst relationships the guy that you pegged yes we what an asshole yes you give him the dick and he

00:42:46goes to find new dick oh my god not only that do you know how expensive fake boobs are no not like

00:42:52my fake boobs but like fake boobs to put on him to put on a man yeah you bought him invested so much

00:42:57into that really I bought myself a dick and you tits okay and where do I get where does that get me

00:43:03cheated on wait you bought him boobs yes and you bought him wigs yes why were you buying it not him

00:43:09just because you had the money or no yeah you were just do or you were just go to the store and get the

00:43:13shit yeah I would go and like try it on and got it like the wigs and stuff so you were fully committed

00:43:18to this which is great on you and and we didn't you say last night that was some of the best sex

00:43:23you had ever had though yes because it was just it like all your inhibitions were both down you're

00:43:29just like we're trying something so different when someone puts all of their guards down and

00:43:34no pun intended but they're right in front of you and probably the most vulnerable position they

00:43:38will ever be in their entire life you can't help but feel a connection there's something about going

00:43:43there the vulnerability aspect yes like sorry but pegging your dude in front of you like that man

00:43:48is on all fours that becomes a shared experience exactly like what we did isn't just his experience

00:43:53it was also mine and it made me question things about myself like I liked being in that male role I

00:44:00really thoroughly enjoyed that like genuinely and right and I think I'm conscious enough now like as old as I

00:44:07am after all the therapy I've been in to recognize the difference between doing something to please a

00:44:11man and doing something that I also enjoyed do you think that it had anything to do and I could be

00:44:17reaching here but do you think it also had anything to do with like you've been so out of control in

00:44:22some things in your life that like maybe it was kind of hot for you to you to be the one I think a lot

00:44:27of people write it off as oh she's a boss at work so she or no she's he's a boss at work so now he

00:44:34wants to be like treated like uh I think a lot of people write it off as being that but what

00:44:38but what I came face to face with was my own gender identity and like questioning who am I who do I who

00:44:45do I think I am like who do I want to be what role do I want to play do I want to be in a relationship

00:44:51with a woman where I can be slightly more masculine and enjoy that dynamic and fascinating that opened my

00:45:00eyes to it and therapy also opened my eyes to the possibility of that is probably the case it's

00:45:06not it's not just oh you know I'm a boss at work yeah it's that's pretty surface level to thought

00:45:11I that's fascinating you had you had those thoughts prior to that relationship or no I was in I was in

00:45:17a relationship with a woman when I was a teenager and she was she was incredible and I've I've always

00:45:25loved women I've never I've never written off dating a woman but it made me it made me question

00:45:32what type of relationship I would be in if I was in a relationship with a woman and it made me realize

00:45:37I think I I think I would want to play the more play I don't I don't even know how to talk this is

00:45:42actually my first time ever talking about it no I I appreciate it because I know so many men and

00:45:47women write in and what would my I think it was more of like what would my role be yeah it made me

00:45:54question what I want whether I want to be with a man or whether I want to be with a woman and feel

00:45:58feel that way because I really liked the tenderness that came along with taking care of the version

00:46:05right of him that you know we explored together I kind of love that too that you're saying like

00:46:10you both were getting so much out of that dynamic yeah and I think that's a huge point for sexual

00:46:17exploration to daddy gang listening it has to be mutual yes and you have to create a safe space

00:46:24for the person who is just being being yeah being the most vulnerable can we talk about the

00:46:29um thing that I told you right before this interview what um malala daddy gang this is my god this is and

00:46:37this is what I wanted to talk to her about because I was saying you know I I wrote down I was like the

00:46:43question of how far do we let the public go in defining us as women before we take over and define

00:46:52ourselves and I am what I'm reading online before this interview and I'm looking up that

00:46:57Pakistani education activist malala who is the youngest woman to just win a nobel peace prize

00:47:04you tweet at her no I commented on her tiktok so you comment on one of her tiktok saying queen

00:47:10yes and she comments back recently created one and she comments back and mia didn't even know this

00:47:16until I sat down today news to me I started freaking out wait no you sat down and you're like can I ask you

00:47:21about malala and I'm like why why are we talking about malala I'm like because of the article I was

00:47:26just reading and how she commented back to you and she's getting scrutinized on the internet I think I

00:47:29got up screamed and ran for my phone the article discusses how she commented back to you and said my

00:47:35bestie and she's getting was getting scrutinized on the internet for having any type of relation with you

00:47:42and it frustrated me in the sense that like why are we the the relationship between the two of you

00:47:53and who you are as women that says so much to me about that relationship why is this woman getting

00:48:00scrutinized for for something that happened in your past seven years ago yeah like that makes no fucking

00:48:05sense to me yeah and so I thought that that article was profound in the sense of like people on the

00:48:10internet just want to bring up negative shit to bring up negative shit yeah you have two

00:48:15unbelievably educated women who are yes in their careers doing different things but at the end of

00:48:20the day the fact that she has she has respect for you and you have respect for her and then there's

00:48:25people shitting on her for associating with you like has that how has that affected you mentally in

00:48:33like have you had issues with people not wanting to work with you or like backlash like explain that kind

00:48:38yeah I mean I've been rejected from a lot of female hosted podcasts like oh not not brand safe sorry

00:48:46like oh well on call her daddy here sweetheart we don't focus on brand safe we focus on real and

00:48:51authentic we focus on not losing our sponsors every week yeah well I thankfully I have sponsors that

00:48:57trust me so here we go thank god but no I know what you're saying so people have have turned you

00:49:01away I've had brands turn me away I've had podcast hosts turn me away I've had people tell other

00:49:07people not to associate with me because of my past like I've I'm very used to having that door shut in

00:49:13my face but it hurts a little bit more when it comes from women and it hurts a little like it hurts

00:49:19even more when I see other women getting shit for interacting with me like Mina Harris started getting

00:49:27shit for following me on Twitter and I started to have imposter syndrome like oh yeah this woman is

00:49:34a badass leader and so her her female voice is so incredible and impactful I should probably just

00:49:41deactivate my Twitter I'm not worthy of having a follow from her I'm embarrassed for anything that's

00:49:46ever been on my Twitter anything I've ever said because I don't want to disappoint this person and

00:49:50this person is like clean and untouched and right you know what I mean well I think Mia one she

00:49:55clearly sees something in you she made the decision to follow you no one forced her to follow you so

00:50:01give yourself a little bit more credit because seriously like she followed you for a reason also

00:50:06like thinking about how I've changed as a person in the past year past two years past three years not

00:50:13saying that you need to change and like we need to wipe clean anything you've done you've done nothing

00:50:17no it's not change it's growth that's what we've done we've gotten older we've grown we've learned we

00:50:22we see a version of ourself that we want to be and we go after it and to be put down like

00:50:27mine is on such a smaller scale so I never want to compare but like but you run the biggest podcast

00:50:31in the world but no but like we talked about this last night I was like I have had in the beginning

00:50:37before it got big my family what people were looking at my family like your daughter is a slut your

00:50:41daughter is talking about blowjobs your daughter is your daughter is blah blah blah blah blah and my mom

00:50:46got frustrated because the only comments that were ever made was like what does her father think

00:50:51what does her dad think yeah why did why why do you what is it about my dad that what's the

00:50:56difference my mother birthed me why are they so focused on the daughter to father dynamic and it's

00:51:02just because of societal stigma that people have put on that the dad must be so disgraced that the

00:51:08daughter and it's like what the fuck you just encapsulated middle eastern female issues in

00:51:14one fell swoop I really yeah that was insane the first thing that an arab woman gets asked is what

00:51:21family are you from who's your father like anytime someone sees some sees them doing something haram or

00:51:27just not up to their standards the first thing they're asked is what family do you come from

00:51:33and it's like what does it matter what family I don't speak for them they speak for me I am my own

00:51:38person it doesn't matter what yeah what does that have to do with my family same thing as what judge your

00:51:43entire lineage based on the decisions they are watching you make and and then it goes now to

00:51:47someone following you on in or twitter now it goes all the way to that to be like why does

00:51:53someone following you that doesn't mean that that person believes everything you do yeah but why it's

00:51:59just so crazy to me like and I think it's been frustrating as females to sometimes like try to have a

00:52:05voice and then be if we have any type of sexual like if I talk vocally sexually if I have this podcast

00:52:15people can't fully take us seriously when we talk about sex or we have had a sexual past like fuck

00:52:21first of all fuck all of you because you've all had sex you're alive because your parents were

00:52:25fucking maybe I have a sex take somewhere that's gonna come out am I not allowed to do something

00:52:29because like Mia has porn oh my god so that defines you for the rest of your life it just

00:52:33it really aggravates me to think about like the dynamic of how something in your past can continue

00:52:39to like people are saying haunt you why oh I mean it goes both ways too it's either it haunts me like

00:52:46how dare you have done that or I get shit for doing anything I do now like I'm on OnlyFans doing non-nude

00:52:53and people are mad at me for number one not being nude or number two having the audacity

00:52:59to be on a site like OnlyFans and not do nude content wait can you explain that yeah what is

00:53:05your well one how did you decide not to post nude content on OnlyFans I just haven't done nude content

00:53:13I was on Patreon before and I just decided to switch platforms I was tired of Patreon it wasn't user

00:53:18friendly I hated running it it was too much work I just decided to do what I was doing on

00:53:23Patreon but on a different platform yep and I didn't think much of it and the reason I switched

00:53:28to OnlyFans is honestly it was meant to just be not I needed to raise a hundred thousand dollars

00:53:36okay to send to the Lebanese Red Cross after the Beirut blast and I thought OnlyFans everyone's on

00:53:42OnlyFans it'll be the best way to make money and then I got shit for using money I made off OnlyFans

00:53:47to donate to the Lebanese Red Cross people were like how dare you send this dirty whore money to

00:53:53Lebanon we don't need this like what wait what so it's like you can't do anything you don't have

00:53:59you're not in a position to pick and choose where the money is coming from yeah what like I'm being

00:54:04I you are graciously offering the lira is worth like a fraction of a cent you have no place to sit

00:54:11and nitpick where the money is coming from to the Lebanese Red Cross did they accept the money

00:54:16that's not on them it's the yes the Lebanese Red Cross except donate to the Lebanese Red Cross

00:54:22holy shit they all accept money from anyone it's it wasn't the people who were actually in charge of

00:54:26getting it it was backlash from Lebanese people got it now there was also a lot of support and a lot

00:54:33of appreciation for Lebanese people but what I'm saying is you cannot please anyone you can't

00:54:38anyone it's like me is like I'm gonna use my OnlyFans and I'm gonna take all my money a hundred

00:54:44thousand dollars and I'm gonna put it to an amazing cause and then they're like that's disgusting Mia

00:54:48that's from OnlyFans as you're not stripping you're not doing and if you were if you were fucking

00:54:54putting a dildo in your pussy who gives a shit you're giving to an organization and it's like a cause

00:54:59that you are passionate about how has your relationship we're swerving here but like I'll

00:55:04go back to OnlyFans in a second how has your relationship after being banned you were banned

00:55:09from Lebanon for how long until they decided that you know I was allowed to come back recently

00:55:16right okay my relationship with my home country has changed 180 in the last year and it was it was

00:55:24after the Beirut blast that people really started to to realize what is important in life like

00:55:31every everyone was taking stock of of things in their life and I think a lot a lot of people were

00:55:36just more open-minded we were all just in a set in in a mindset of we're Lebanese we need to protect

00:55:44each other we need to support each other exactly like there's not many of us and even our own are

00:55:48trying to kill us like we have to stick together and that is when the conversation around me and

00:55:53Lebanon changed and I'm so I'm so thankful for it because I I think that has to that has to do with

00:55:59why I feel like I'm in such a good place in my life can you explain to me what is your career right

00:56:04now and like where are you kind of like seeing it going I I'm in a weird place in my career right

00:56:09now where I can take it any direction I want and I'm so fortunate for that I have so many exciting

00:56:16things ahead but right now I'm loving being on OnlyFans I'm really seriously loving it and it's

00:56:23it's not just me being on there that I'm enjoying I'm really enjoying learning about the sex work

00:56:28community and getting to know sex workers and hearing all of these different people's stories

00:56:34and their experience in the industry and I think I think it's very very important to

00:56:42acknowledge that sex workers need to need to be treated better and need to have more protection

00:56:48but I also think it's important to acknowledge the amount of grooming that takes place online when

00:56:53people start glamorizing the industry and porn and being a sugar baby and all of these things that are

00:57:01really detrimental for young women who are watching and listening and thinking looking for an out

00:57:06honestly and seeing someone post like that and instantly think this is my escape because it's not

00:57:11I I I don't I don't encourage people to go into the sex and the sex work industry but

00:57:17I also will like die to protect people who are in it especially in the last year like just getting

00:57:25to know so many sex workers and people who basically taught me how to be on OnlyFans because I for for

00:57:33for as much as I'm considered a sex worker I know fucking nothing about the industry and I want to

00:57:40learn because I think it's irresponsible for me to be this quote-unquote face of it for better or worse

00:57:46and not know what's going on with the people who are actually in the industry that's fascinating

00:57:51because it that I respect you a lot for saying that that you've at one point really tried to take

00:57:58yourself out of that world and now being on OnlyFans and knowing there are sex workers on there you do want

00:58:06to continue to educate yourself on a world you were previously fully ingrained in took yourself out of

00:58:12and now I remember seeing you doing an interview and you had said um even just something as different

00:58:18as adjusting when a say it's a porn company is handing a young girl a contract kind of like what

00:58:25we were joking about in the perpetuity aspect when you're handing a young girl a contract just as simple

00:58:30as she's not allowed to sign it that day what about even just putting instilling that type of rule just

00:58:35because like you said you're sitting there with men staring at you as you're about to sign this

00:58:39contract the word perpetuity is on there you don't know what it means but they're staring at you and

00:58:44you're feeling a little bit like I guess I should just sign this because there's three men staring at

00:58:48me and like I don't understand half of these words and it's like embarrassing and you don't feel like

00:58:52you're you just are like I guess I should sign it for it to almost be instilled that like there needs

00:58:58to be some type of guidance there needs to be a lawyer in the room to help someone understand what

00:59:03they're signing protection because if the industry is allowed to target 18 year old girls those girls

00:59:09need protection in place as young females or males signing something that you don't have an

00:59:14understanding of is detrimental especially when you're in your adolescent adolescent age of your

00:59:19brain is still forming how are you going to make a smart decision when you don't even understand

00:59:22what's in front of you exactly I mean there's so many things it's going to be cool to see what

00:59:26happens with our relationship because we had talked about last night um the whole like child

00:59:29pornography thing and like what happens when you're younger and if a girl I didn't realize

00:59:34that when a girl's picture if she takes a nudes and sends it to her boyfriend most of the time

00:59:39they don't prosecute if it gets spread around because the female underage female also gets

00:59:46prosecuted for distribution of underage porn even though it's her it's a double-edged sword

00:59:52so no she can't she these girls are backed their back is against a wall because they can't report

00:59:57their image being circulated and sent around by the guy they sent it to because then they would be

01:00:02admitting to procuring distributing taking underage pornography how is that even it's so fucked up

01:00:12that's like what did we say last night we're like let's put our suits on what will we wear we need to

01:00:17write a bill right can you imagine to get yes we need yes I can daddy is like this episode has

01:00:24taken a turn Mia and Alex are talking about passing a bill we will be there in our nice

01:00:28are gonna be legislators Mia I think sitting down with you has been one of my favorite interviews just

01:00:35because I can tell how one genuine well you are genuinely authentic so smart so educated but also

01:00:41with your past to be sitting with you today you you can tell you've done the work like you can

01:00:47tell that you can tell that you have been through an experience but it's kind of as much as I said

01:00:54last night like although you would maybe take it back when you were younger like would you be sitting

01:00:58here had all this not happened you know what I mean I think I think that I would I would take back

01:01:03the reason why I made the decisions I made yep but hey man it it made me grow up very fast yeah for

01:01:12better or worse it made me grow up I did not get to have the same early 20s as most people my age

01:01:18and I don't know if I I don't know if I regret that because I think that I would be in a different

01:01:24place at 28 than I am now if I did I think to hear the way you talk about your husband and to hear the

01:01:32way that you talk about your life right now my friend Lauren and I are so corny recently but we keep

01:01:37saying I really do believe everything happens for a reason you may not have met him you may not we

01:01:43may not even be sitting here you know what I mean and so to look at the positives about what one point

01:01:49in your life was the darkest place in your life to see the woman you are today and to meeting you and I

01:01:55feel like I've learned so much from you already and I've this is the second day I hung out with you

01:01:58it's inspiring honestly to be in your presence so thank you thank you so much for coming on call her

01:02:03daddy I'm cheering up thank you for coming on call her daddy I hope that I hope I'm excited to see

01:02:09where your journey takes you in your career and I'm excited to see where we end up I feel like we're

01:02:14already friends yeah me too thank you seriously thank you for putting out the things that you put

01:02:20out because you have no idea who you're inspiring and how much you're inspiring them you made me you

01:02:25made me feel like I can literally do anything I want I can start a podcast if I want like I cannot

01:02:32believe she's doing it on her own editing it writing it doing everything on her own and also

01:02:37dealing with all of this shit she's dealing with yeah facing the internet sitting in front of a camera

01:02:43with amazing lighting and talking about all of it amazing lighting god it took a minute to get that

01:02:49apartment had great windows it did great windows great exposure the way you had your wall set up

01:02:54yeah all of the shelves the whole yeah we love it no thank you I have chills just like talking about

01:03:00that video you see you seriously made me feel like oh my god anything is possible thank you

01:03:06mia you've been amazing daddy gang go show her love tag yourself where they find you it's just mia

01:03:10khalifa go follow her on all things social media go subscribe to her only fans so she can continue

01:03:16to use her money for good I love you I love you okay how long was that

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