00:00I will go now live to a special interview to The Economist, César Censión.
00:06Let's listen to the statements.
00:12They already abandoned that topic, and now they are showing their full intentions.
00:17They want to take the oil. They are saying that they are going to take companies to Venezuela
00:22to control this. They are saying that they want to run the country. So he could maybe,
00:29Donald Trump, declare himself president of Venezuela at any moment.
00:33And he also said that Venezuela is free, but he will continue the blockade. So that's a little bit
00:41strange. But if it's free, it shouldn't be blockaded. So Trump was a little bit misleading in
00:52the speech. But definitely he is going to continue with the threats. But they didn't have a strategic
01:01victory. They hit hard, but they didn't take the power. And the people are going to continue coming
01:10out to the streets. And there's a lot of people also at an international level. And I think that
01:20this is hitting hard on the United States.
01:23Today it's Venezuela with the oil, but tomorrow it could be lithium in the southern countries.
01:39Yes, exactly. That is part of the strategy. He said he's going to control the entire Latin America.
01:45That in Latin America there's no room for other competitors from other continents. He's talking
01:54about China and other countries with more presence in Latin America.
02:01So that is in his strategy of homeland security. He wants to control the territory. That's the
02:12chapter one of that homeland security document. He wants to control the commerce of Latin America and
02:20the natural resources. He wants the ports of Peru, Chile, Ecuador, Brazil, Venezuela,
02:29China. Of Central America, Marco Rubio also had orders against Puerto Rico and El Salvador. They want to
02:37control the Panama Canal. So they are working on that. They want to control the ports in order to fight
02:49back China through commerce and also other competitors that they have in the region.
02:54And they want to control that commerce for the United States. And he also said that in Latin America,
03:05and that's the same thing that is in the official document, that it's the backyard for them. And he said
03:13this openly and that he will act against anybody who will act against this territory. So he decides who
03:24is attempting against the security and who doesn't.
03:28And so that is to say that instead of the rhetoric of the right, that's the rhetoric of democracy and
03:43pluralism and the supposed respect to the law. This is not bad. This is the announcement of an imperialist
03:54project of domination. And that is the same thing that he has announced for the Indo-Pacific.
04:02That's the strategy as well, the control of the Indo-Pacific,
04:08the Indochinian Sea.
04:11That's a strategy as well for Africa, for Europe, for Taiwan. So we are looking at an empire that it's a
04:19very, a very intense stage because they're being displaced. They are weakened. So they are even more
04:28aggressive. But I have the impression that this strategy is not going to work out for them. Actually,
04:37they have failed in many attempts in Latin America. For example, the military base in Ecuador now in
04:46Venezuela, it's a strong head, but they have not political power right now. They are not being able to
04:53conquer Mexico or Brazil and other countries. So we need to wait because this is a decadent empire.
05:06And he's aggressive, but it doesn't mean that they are going to have their way.
05:08So all of this definitely is showing the repositioning of the doctoral
05:19doctrine in the continent with the plunder of the natural resources of the countries.
05:29Exactly. They tried this through the FDA. That's the project of Clinton first and afterwards Bush.
05:37And it failed. That was a project of commerce, of privatization, of the control of public services,
05:48the construction of the agriculture, and that failed.
05:56Another project linked to Panama and a similar attempt in Central America.
06:02America. They have always been aggressive, but right now they're doing it in a more violent way.
06:12Because what Trump is doing right now is to reject
06:18those supposed ideas of a free trade agreement. They supposedly wanted that, but right now they're
06:26rejecting it. So yes, they are very aggressive. And America for the Americans in their conception, that
06:39is America for the United States. It's not for us. I am an American. I am from El Salvador.
06:47An Argentinian, a Venezuelan is an American. But for them, America is for the United States.
06:54So all governments, left or progressives, they should be worried about this.
07:04Because the plunder plan is already established. It's already published.
07:11So if the Peruvian government does not understand this, or the Chilean government does not understand
07:17this, or the Ecuador government, it's a problem because it could be them next as well.
07:26Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, of course, they have more interest because this is a battle.
07:31We are looking at a battle from an empire that can be displaced, but they are trying to grip,
07:37and they have force and strength because they have military force. And Trump is talking about America
07:47for the United States. But when should we see the United States for those from the United States?
07:55Because the country itself has an important crisis. What is Trump doing for them?
07:59Yes, that is part of the contradiction. He is violating all norms of international law.
08:10And inflation went up to 3%.
08:12And in some goods, even 12% or 15%. That is very, very high. And that is raising costs.
08:25And that is being translated to prices.
08:28And the countries have also answered back with more tariffs. So that has affected the prices as well.
08:40The economy is not growing.
08:46The unemployment is also increasing. It's at 4.4.
08:52And many people are underemployed as well.
08:55So what's happening inside an economy that is not growing so much and with high prices?
09:04And the public debt continues to grow. And the social programs.
09:09Poverty is rising as well because the cost of living is higher for them.
09:16It's not so much because the sacking of the plunder is for the elites.
09:22And that is not the oil of Latin America. That is not for the whole of the United States. That's for the elites.
09:33And any other sort of natural resources like from Bolivia or other countries. That's for them.
09:41They are fighting with the entire world. They are messing with many different wars.
09:53For the population of the United States. They are not doing well.
09:59But he's also losing popularity. He lost the elections in New York.
10:05I do not have high hope for his rivals because they are also imperialists.
10:15But if he loses the midterms, it's also a failure for him.
10:20Do you consider that these actions will have repercussions in those midterms?
10:30Maybe because there is a situation that is not a good one.
10:35In that case, services are worsening. The employment is worse. They are
10:48deporting many of the Latin American workers. There's a lot of persecution.
10:54And that Latino population can also turn against them.
11:04Because that is an anti-migrant policies that is to hit our countries.
11:12But it's also being affected to that community.
11:16So governments that have countries that have governments that do not follow their own policies.
11:29And this is a phase of capitalism characterized by monopolies and also financial capital.
11:38That is the essence of imperialism. Monopolies and that financial aspect.
11:44And the United States is the main imperialist power.
11:49So that government is not for the people. The people is voting.
11:53But that government is not for the people. It's for the elites.
11:59Not only the United States, but also the oligarchy groups of other countries.
12:06Look at what happened in Honduras. The interference in other countries like Argentina in favor of Malay.
12:14So always with the right and with the business elites from their countries and other countries.
12:23That is their nature. That is why we need to be prepared in order to face that strategy.
12:31Because in their nature is aggressiveness. We need to close down our lines.
12:42I would like to see for the Sao Paulo Forum to be reactivated.
12:47We need to see for example to be summoned. We need to see because of course all of them are being threatened.
12:58Trump is threatening for example Greenland as well saying that it's going to turn it into the next state.
13:05So it's a decadent empire that is attacking through force.
13:16And but it's heading towards failure as well. He had it with Iran.
13:22And this is a back and forth. They are very aggressive.
13:28But we need to see how we will face it in the best way.
13:32I think that Venezuela has conditions to defeat it because the power of the people of the party and international solidarity and the movements,
13:44the social movements, the social movements, but people need to close ranks in that battle.
13:51That is the battle of our era. We need to take them to failure so we see a new world.
14:02Cesar, in these new circumstances, do we need to ask, is there still room for diplomacy and international law?
14:14We have seen a lot of shows of solidarity for the government of Venezuela.
14:20On Monday, the UN Security Council is going to meet for this illegal aggression on Venezuela.
14:28But beyond this, we have seen regarding the topic of Palestinians so many meetings.
14:35How many meetings have they done in the Security Council, in the General Assembly?
14:41But what results have this delivered if foreign powers like the United States, like Israel continue to assault
14:52peoples and civilians and nothing happens to them?
14:55Well, the thing is that they have the veto power at the United Nations.
15:01So the UN can approve something in favor of Palestinians, for example, but the US will veto it.
15:10This has to do with the international order that is responding to those powers in particular.
15:16In this case, in the United States, that is a power that is also an aggressive power.
15:24Because you have China that's a great power, but it's not involved in wars with other countries.
15:31China has another logic.
15:33China has another logic.
15:34There is a tax for Latin America.
15:39There's a strategy for Latin America.
15:43And they have that capacity.
15:46It's 45% of the weapons.
15:55And they have a strong power, but they are in the process of being replaced.
16:01And the goal here is to take them to failure.
16:05They need to be replaced either by a nation like China or our group of countries like the BRICS,
16:15for example.
16:16But there is a tendency, a very clear tendency, when you see all the economic variables and also
16:23all the social numbers that China has already overcome and surpassed them in production.
16:37They are competing.
16:40And Latin America is also an important key area, Asia, India, Vietnam.
16:47So things will continue to change.
16:51So as their strategy fails, we will see more conditions either for the international law to be
17:03applied or for new mechanisms to be built.
17:07Because, of course, in this context, to face Israel or the United States is not anything.
17:14These are nuclear weapons.
17:16But they attacked Iran and it didn't go well for them because Iran did strike back.
17:24It's true that there's difficulties in the application of different politics,
17:32even with the application of different policies in terms of the environment.
17:37But they are weakened and their aggressiveness has to do with that.
17:48It's an aggressiveness like it's like frantic.
17:52It's like not serene.
17:53It's dangerous.
17:54César, of course, we will continue to join you after we go to some live information.
18:09We will listen to the economist César Censión.
18:13He stated that the intention behind this is to control the natural resources of Venezuela.
18:28Also, they intend to control the port of several countries in Latin America,
18:35like Puerto Rico or Peru, to fight back China economically.
18:38Censión also stated that the United States is a decadent empire,
18:43using the Monroe Doctrine to plunder Latin America.
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