Claudia Jordan and Luenell share their thoughts on the decline of talk shows

Claudia Jordan and Luenell, two dynamic personalities, delve into their perspectives on the decline of talk shows.

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00:00All right, so real quick, there was a story that came out in Time Magazine called,

00:03Talk shows are endangered species. To survive, they must evolve. When you look at the talk

00:09shows that are on TV right now, do you think they reflect what people want to see or just

00:12what they're trying to fill for advertisers and white people?

00:15I feel like a lot of them are too safe. I want to say that I feel like cocktails of Queens,

00:21we're not safe and we're a little edgy.

00:24A little edgy?

00:24A lot edgy, but I think we're the real. We're very real. Not to take away from the real,

00:32because that was a great show, Emmy-nominated show, Emmy award-winning show. But I feel

00:35like our show is very, we don't bite our tongue on anything. And sometimes we have to talk

00:40about celebrities that are our friends and we have to give a real opinion on things.

00:44And I think we need to stop being so scary, advertise it, stop being so scary and go with

00:49the real shit. All this perfectly curated and safe shit is boring. We don't need that.

00:53We need to be, like, I want to hear the same kind of conversation I would hear in the barbershop

00:58or the beauty salons, where you just go in. You're not worried about, like, who am I going

01:01to offend?

01:02Yeah.

01:03Well, I'm trying to be the next black woman at Late Night. Late Night has a certain vibe.

01:11I don't feel like contents with Queens attracts men. I think it attracts women and supports,

01:20what we feel with each other. But I want to have a show that, it's like, it's just like

01:26in comedy. There's female comics who are funny, but there's female comics who are what they

01:32call guy funny, where a guy would want to come see you even without his shit. Or three

01:38or four guys want to come and see you. And that's very different. You have to be a different

01:43type of person. I want to be the type of person who has a show that embraces the men as well.

01:49You know, nobody except for gay men and women want to hear women. They don't want to hear our

01:55opinion. They don't. So I want to do things that attract them in, and then they inadvertently

02:03hear our opinion, you know?

02:05I feel like talk shows back in the day, like Ginny Jones, Ricky Legg, even Sally, Jessie, and Oprah,

02:11Geraldo, everybody had something different that got everybody. Like, you can tune into any of those

02:16shows and be captivated by what you're seeing. Nowadays, I feel like most of them are boring,

02:20and most of them are lackluster. And I don't know, is it because they're afraid to have the

02:24real conversations that people are having, or is it because the brands just don't want to have

02:28those real conversations?

02:28Well, daytime is different than nighttime, see?

02:30And everybody thinks I can be a talk show host, and everybody can't.

02:33And everybody wants to do daytime. You know, I'm just not with the selling of the soap powder

02:40and trying to make Christmas wreaths out of toilet tissue rolls and stuff like that. I want

02:46to do like, you know, like what Hugh Hefton used to have, Playboy After Dark, boozy and sort

02:53of sexy with poetry or comedy and musical artists and stuff like that. I'm not trying to get

03:03the housewives on my teeth. So that's what is up for me. I just want to lay down.