00:00I think it will become useful to speak to Vladimir Putin, yes.
00:04In any case, I see that there are people who speak to Vladimir Putin.
00:10So I think that we, Europeans and Ukrainians,
00:14we have intérêt to find the cadre to re-engager this discussion in good and good shape.
00:22Otherwise, we talk between us with negotiators who will only talk with the Russians.
00:26That's not optimal.
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