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03:18Let's just get by this one today and then we'll take it one game at a time, like I take my life one day at a time.
03:26Bob had that special talent and whenever anybody talked about Bob Purry, it was always followed by the sentence,
03:34wow, he could have been the best. He had so much talent and look how he's ruining his life.
03:39That always followed. It was almost part of his name.
03:42Bob Purry, isn't that the kid's got so much talent and ruined his life?
03:45I was born in Patterson, New Jersey, June 2nd, 1952, in Patterson General Hospital, from what I know of.
03:56I have one dead brother and four living sisters.
03:59My brother, Charles, was the first one born, died of sick disc fibrosis.
04:04Then I had four sisters, Ann, Joan, Pat, and Jean.
04:08I was six years old. My father took me bowling down the perilous lanes.
04:12It was in River Street in Patterson, and that's where I first started.
04:17I used to get one special lane, lane five or lane six.
04:20I'd get my own ball. I had a special number. I had it off the rack, 124, I think it was. I'll never forget it.
04:25I used to throw it all the time, all Friday night long, by myself.
04:29You know, I didn't really keep score much.
04:31And then when I would come home, I'd have my own little pin and my own ball, and I'd bowl in the living room all the time.
04:35My father bowled under Charlie Purry. See, him and his brother was Chet Purzycki and Charlie Purzycki, and they used to all, they couldn't figure out which was which, and they'd spell the name wrong all the time.
04:46But when I was six years old, my father named me Bob Purry, and that's the name I stuck with.
04:52I mean, Patterson was a good town.
04:53You know, you could keep your door open. You didn't have to lock your door then.
04:58Not like today. I mean, you know, the urban's moving in everywhere.
05:02But certain parts, that don't look too bad. I mean, but, you know, what it looks like now, what it looked like then, it's two different things.
05:08I used to be a paper boy for all these people over here.
05:11And, you know, I'd come and deliver the papers, and after a while, half the people wouldn't pay me.
05:15I used to go to the door and knock for the money. We don't want the paper no more.
05:18I was the only guy that had a paper route in New Jersey that used to get in trouble because the people wouldn't pay me.
05:25I didn't, and I used to get scared, so I used to just not deliver it to them no more.
05:29I was not a tough guy. I was a small guy. I was the smallest guy on the block.
05:33I was real skinny. You know, I had tough times. My broken arms and my eye, and, you know, I wasn't, I was just one of them little skinny, little skinny kids, little tiny kids, real thin.
05:45This is the playground where I used to play when I was in grammar school, St. John's Grammar School and St. John's Cathedral High School.
05:53They had 40, 30, 40-year-old bowling alleys with real old pins and house balls, and I used to come down here when nothing was going on,
06:02and the priests, if I was hanging out, used to let me go downstairs, and I used to set up the pins myself, come back up, throw the ball, go back down, set the pins up, send the ball back,
06:12because they were 50-year-old lanes. They had no ball return.
06:16The house looks exactly the same from 1972, exactly the same. There's no difference except maybe for the steps, but it looks close to the same.
06:26The first house we had burnt down in 1972, and we had this one rebuilt, and it's a little bit different, but the foundation's still the same.
06:34This is the backyard I was born and raised in when I was growing up. It looks exactly the same. The wall's still the same.
06:40That's what's going on here. And this is where I was born and raised. I used to play a lot here. Ricky lived next door here,
06:48and this is where we used to play a lot, and we had the pool here. We had a pool here, but before that,
06:56this is the place where I got hit, and I got blinded. They had a bowling alley in the World's Fair, the AMF Pavilion.
07:03The winner would get a scholarship to college, but what happened was I qualified locally, and I bowled very well,
07:08and I knew I was going to do well. I won the first regional, and we went to the second regional, I won that,
07:12and we went to the third regional, and I won that. So we went into New York, and I had won that regional,
07:17and, you know, we were going to go to the finals, and I was doing very well, and I felt that I had a great chance
07:22of winning, and I was really up there, and, you know, then it never got to be done. You know,
07:29I never made the final thing in the World's Fair. My father gave me a croquet mallet set,
07:34and he said, I don't want you to play with that at all unless I'm home with my mother,
07:38because we played one day, me and Ricky next door, played with it outside, and we played in the backyard,
07:43and Ricky would hit the ball like it's a golf ball. He didn't hit it like it was a croquet mallet.
07:47And he went to swing it. As he swung it, he liked over by acting, and then he said,
07:51I turned around, and as I turned around, I got it dead in my head, and it crushed half my face.
07:57And I was across the street, and the woman, all of a sudden, we heard my brother screaming.
08:02We ran outside, and he was running down the driveway holding his head, and blood was just coming out everywhere.
08:11And a lady across the street thought that I was getting beat up, or somebody was beating me up real bad,
08:15and she ran across the street. Diane's mother, Millie, and Millie came in the house and so on.
08:21And she was a nurse, I think, and she said, call your father, and we've got to get him to a hospital.
08:25My father worked about 25 minutes away, and for some reason, it was like he was home in three minutes,
08:32and then we were to the hospital.
08:33Doctor was trying to do my eye, and then he told my father I couldn't see.
08:37And he said, it's my left eye, my left one.
08:40And he said that, you know, your son can't see.
08:45This is where I think my watching over Bob the rest of my life came in,
08:51because I was holding his hand in the emergency room, and he was like,
08:56don't leave me, don't leave me, please don't leave me.
08:58And when I look back now, this is, I think, where my connection really bonded.
09:05I can't see no people or places or make any kind of distinctions out or anything.
09:11So it was determined that I had a shattered retina that scarred and buckled over and twisted,
09:16and it never healed.
09:18So that's what I was dealt with.
09:20And then after that, life became really terrible for a while.
09:25That's the guy that used to, like, somehow get me inside his house
09:29and then molest me and do bad things to me, and it wasn't a good time.
09:35There was a gentleman that lived across the street from me.
09:37He was 17, 18 years old. I was 12.
09:40I was right after that, but it was happening at that time.
09:43He used to somehow find a way to get me in his house.
09:46And when he got me in his house, he used to molest me.
09:48He used to try to perform sexual acts on me and have me do it on him,
09:52and I was scared to death. I could not handle that.
09:56I didn't know how to tell my father.
09:57I couldn't tell anybody because I was scared.
10:00Second of all, I didn't think anybody would believe me.
10:02Later on down in my life, I felt that that was one of the reasons that, you know,
10:05they tell you that you drink for several different reasons,
10:07and, you know, I didn't get to deal with this until I was 40 years old.
10:11So I carried this thing for, like, 28 years, and it was a very hard thing to deal with.
10:16Jeannie and I bowled with my mother, and we had a league.
10:20It was my mother, myself, Jeannie, a cousin, and then a friend of ours.
10:26And when my mother died, that was when we stopped bowling.
10:29My mother was very into bowling.
10:31But we bowled a lot of years, though.
10:32We bowled in the Catholic Women's League.
10:34Right, Catholic League, Friday nights.
10:34We all bowled.
10:36I was young, and I really didn't bowl long.
10:38My father would sit behind us in the bowling alley, and if you,
10:42while we're bowling in the league, and he'd be behind,
10:44we would be on the team, and he'd be behind,
10:47and he'd come over the seat and say,
10:49you didn't do it right this way, you didn't do it right that way.
10:51Can't get the ball around your fat ass.
10:53Get your ball around your fat ass.
10:55When Mommy died, that was it.
10:57Nobody had to pick up a bowling ball again.
10:59If you were sick, my mother couldn't understand if you were sick and you didn't come.
11:02You had to be there.
11:03You had to be there.
11:04My father died, and we were bowling that night.
11:07And Ann said, we're not going bowling.
11:09And my mother said, yes, we are.
11:10Your father would have wanted it.
11:12And we were a big family.
11:13And we all played sports.
11:15And my mother drove us all to sports and all our friends.
11:18We had to.
11:19There was a boy before me who died 20 days before I was born.
11:23And then there was four girls.
11:24And then there was Bobby.
11:26And he's the only male on the one family's side.
11:30So he was like, oh, here's the son.
11:33No, but to us.
11:34Oh, but to us he was a toy.
11:35I broke his arm twice.
11:36I don't remember anything.
11:37Oh, yeah, we broke his arm.
11:39Yes.
11:39Well, what was an accident?
11:40We were laying on the couch, and he fell off.
11:43I mean, we didn't go to break his arm.
11:44He fell off.
11:45So we racked it up.
11:46No, first we said, look, it's not broken.
11:49Oh, yeah, we did kick it a little.
11:50We said, it's not broken.
11:51It's not broken.
11:52Because we would get in trouble that he got hurt.
11:54My friends, like their fathers, like, because, you know, anybody who didn't have a son, you know.
12:00So he was the kid of the neighborhood.
12:02Well, my bowling game, I didn't bowl for a while.
12:04I didn't bowl until I was almost 14 years old.
12:07I didn't really get to do a lot of things.
12:09I was very clumsy.
12:10I would fall down.
12:10I couldn't see.
12:11I'd walk into things.
12:12Everybody said, you're not going to make it.
12:14I think if I was you, I would quit.
12:15And I said, I'm not going to quit.
12:17I said, I'm going to be a professional bowler, I told everybody.
12:20And everybody used to laugh at me.
12:21You're going to be a professional bowler.
12:22I said, that's right.
12:23I'm going to be a professional bowler.
12:25I started bowling.
12:26I threw the ball down the lane.
12:27Every ball went in the gutter.
12:28I couldn't even bowl 50.
12:30For my kid that was going to bowl in the 190s and 200s and 210s at the age of 12, at 14, I couldn't bowl 100.
12:37And it was very, very embarrassing because, you know, people were waiting to see me bowl and I had no idea what to do.
12:45So the next year and a half, from the age of 14 to 16, it was really hard on me, but I wouldn't give up.
12:50What happened was I got a job working at Arrow Fastener.
12:53It used to be on Route 80 in Saddlebrook, New Jersey.
12:56And I worked there all night long from 8 at night to 4 in the morning in the night shift.
13:01And then at 8 in the morning to 5 at night, I would bowl all day long.
13:06I bowled 12 hours a day, every day, for the entire summer.
13:10And I went to Lodi Lanes and an old friend of my father's, Al Foscorino, was helping me.
13:15And I went from throwing a straight ball to throwing one of the strongest balls in bowling.
13:20Bobby disappeared for about six months.
13:23Come back into the bowling alley one day and he says to everybody, he says,
13:28I want to bowl you, I want to bowl you, and I want to bowl you.
13:31He says, because you just all stink.
13:33And the guy looked at me and he goes, you're 170 average bowlers.
13:37I said, whatever I am, you could bowl me.
13:39And I went from 170 to like 200 or 220 in one summer.
13:43And I walked in a bowling alley and I devastated everybody.
13:46Even the best bowlers always respected and somewhat feared Bob because they knew of his talent.
13:53His talent was exceptional because he was one of those natural bowlers or natural sportsmen, as we would say.
14:02But the rhythm that he had, the execution that he had of the bowling ball, the roll on the ball,
14:09the power that he had at the end of the, at the end of, in the pocket, it was something else.
14:16He had, like, one of the greatest arm swings.
14:19You know, and a lot of, a lot of the young players today have a high backswing, Pete Webber's backswing, real high.
14:25A lot of those guys have all these high backswings.
14:27Well, Bob started that high backswing.
14:29And I went from some kid on the street that was nothing to the best bowler in the East Coast.
14:34I used to go out every Friday night, everywhere, and bowl everybody for money.
14:37It didn't matter.
14:38I went and all these big-time money bowlers, they'd walk in, they'd see me, and I'd step on a lane.
14:42After I was done with them, they'd walk out scratching their heads, like, where did this kid come from?
14:47We battled each other on the lanes in competition, match play, and he beat me and I beat him, and he beat me and I beat him.
14:55But we had a lot of fun together and he was a great guy to watch.
14:59I was terrific.
15:00I won my first professional title.
15:02I remember I bowled 12 tournaments, 12 regional tournaments.
15:06The most first place was $1,000, and I was leading money winner with $6,000.
15:12I was at the American Bowling Congress Championship.
15:14I got him in doubles and singles with another young guy who bowled tour, Ty Critchlow,
15:21and put the two guys together for the doubles and singles competition that afternoon.
15:26And lo and behold, Bob and Ty won the classic, the professional doubles title that day.
15:32He would bowl against anybody, anywhere.
15:36He bowled in leagues in maybe 10 different areas in New Jersey.
15:42Almost invariably, he would be the leading bowler in the league.
15:46He's rolled 300 games in 800 series in 10 different counties in the state, which is an incredible feat.
15:53There's this organization called the NBA.
15:57That's the National Bowling Association.
16:00Now, this is a complete black organization that was formed because initially in bowling,
16:06only whites were allowed to bowl.
16:08So they formed their own organization.
16:10And each year, they have a tournament.
16:13So what happens, because of rules, they have to accept anybody.
16:18So one tournament, in walks Bob, and he wins the NBA singles championship.
16:23I ended up being the NBA bowl of the year.
16:26I was black bowl of the year, and I was a white guy.
16:28Well, actually, in 1972, I bought Encyclopedia Britannica,
16:31and every year, you get the book of the year after that.
16:36You would, the book of the year would come in the mail.
16:39And I opened it one day, and I said, oh, let me look up bowling.
16:41And I looked up bowling, and there was my brother's name in Encyclopedia Britannica.
16:45I joined the PBA when I was 19.
16:48I had graduated high school.
16:49I think it was the summer.
16:51I had a choice either to go to college or to become a professional bowler,
16:54and I became a professional bowler.
16:56This is the Bergen County Bowlers Association.
16:59It's one of the only associations in the United States that owns its own building.
17:04This building was, they bought this building in 1973
17:07when they had 30,000 bowlers in this county of Bergen County.
17:12And it was one of the largest bowling associations in America.
17:15This is where, if you want to become a great bowler,
17:19you need to bowl on Monday nights at Palamas.
17:21That's where all the famous bowlers bowled in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
17:25Hey, Bob, how you doing?
17:26Yuck, shumash!
17:30How's everything?
17:31Good, good, good.
17:33We came here to see the Hall of Fame.
17:34Oh, good, nice.
17:36Fellow Hall of Famer, fellow teammate.
17:38Thanks.
17:38Joe Tove, so, you know.
17:40Good, great.
17:42Let's go inside and see everybody.
17:45These are pictures of everybody that's been inducted
17:51to the Bergen County Hall of Fame.
17:55A lot of these people I know personally,
17:59and a lot of them had an effect on my life.
18:02The first person that I beat for my first professional title
18:05was Ralph Engen.
18:07Joe was on the same team as Eddie Totola,
18:09who was a teammate of mine in Paramus.
18:11Then we have Chuck Pizzano, who's a really personal,
18:14a good friend of mine.
18:16Then we have the greatest bowler, I think,
18:18that New Jersey's ever seen,
18:19and that's Tita Simez.
18:20That's on top over there.
18:22You know, he was probably the greatest bowler
18:25the state of New Jersey has ever seen.
18:27You know, you think about being put in the Hall of Fame.
18:29I mean, it's a great honor.
18:33And, you know, it's a well-deserved honor for a lot of people.
18:36I mean, even for me, it was a well-deserved honor.
18:40But, you know, drinking and drugging
18:41took a lot of things away from me.
18:43It took the State Hall of Fame away from me.
18:44They'll never put me in the State Hall of Fame
18:45because of the way they act.
18:49I mean, they had the elections again this year,
18:50and they didn't put me in.
18:52And I've been on a ballot for 15 years.
18:54I mean, it's totally ridiculous.
18:55I mean, I had major accomplishments in bowling.
18:58I never got in, so.
19:00As Bob started getting older and bowling better,
19:04a lot of people started showing up
19:07very interested in what Bob was doing.
19:14People from Patterson,
19:17a lot of people that were...
19:22I don't know how to say this.
19:25I don't really know how to say this.
19:31People that were...
19:32I don't want to say mafia people,
19:37but I want to say...
19:41shady people.
19:45Actually, it's not shady people.
19:47Maybe powerful people.
19:49Maybe that's the word I'm looking for
19:50because I was impressed also.
19:52The fat man was a guy named Raymond Szymanski.
19:57He was a funny guy.
19:59We called him the fat man
20:00because he was always sweating.
20:01He was big and heavy.
20:03And he had money.
20:04We got to know Raymond.
20:06Raymond used to take us here.
20:08We'd go here.
20:09We'd go there.
20:09Raymond was the money man.
20:11Don't worry about it.
20:12I'll put up the money.
20:13And he'd be the backer.
20:14Yeah, I'm trying to ball for it.
20:15You know, that's the kind of guy he was.
20:17He was the wise guy.
20:18Raymond was the wise guy.
20:19He was the wise guy.
20:21He was also known as Uncle Raymond.
20:23Uncle Raymond.
20:24Right.
20:24He had them fucking dangerous eyes.
20:27You know what they talk about?
20:27People with eyes that can look through you
20:29and cut you up.
20:30That's what he had.
20:31He'd go like this.
20:35There's a tough element there behind gambling.
20:37And if you don't perform, you can get hurt physically as well as mentally.
20:45And you have to be careful how you're introduced into gambling in pot games,
20:52as we called it back then.
20:54Bowling was gambling itself.
20:57They bowled for money all the time.
20:59It was like going to a movie and seeing the sheriff of the town
21:03going against the fastest gun.
21:06because when you walked into a bowling center,
21:09you would actually challenge the best bowler in that center.
21:13It was fun.
21:14You go in a bowling alley, you could be broke and walk in,
21:16and they'd all bet on you.
21:16You win, and they'd give you the money, and you go home.
21:19It was great.
21:20Friday nights was terrific.
21:21If I had 200 or I had nothing, I would come home with a lot of money.
21:24The problem is the money that he did win, very little of it was his money.
21:29So it was a tough life.
21:32And naturally, being awake three, four days at a time,
21:36that would lead to some type of a drug to try to keep you going.
21:41This accident was all my fault.
21:46I had to deliver liquor.
21:48I was working for this company, and we had all customers in New York City,
21:51and I had to deliver the Christmas gifts to them,
21:55which were bottles of, you know, bottles for Christmas and things like that.
22:00So I said to Bob, would you drive me?
22:02If you drive me, I can just run in.
22:05So he said, okay.
22:06So he drove me.
22:07So the first one I had to go to was Gimbel's department store,
22:10and he said, Pat, you take too long.
22:12I'll go.
22:13You drive the car.
22:15It's okay.
22:15So I'm sitting in the car, and all of a sudden, I'm waiting and waiting.
22:18I'm illegally parked on 31st Street.
22:22Now I'm walking across, and I come to the traffic light,
22:26and that's where the Avenue of America meets Broadway.
22:28I think it's called Herald Square.
22:30So I was coming where the one way's coming down,
22:33and the one way coming down is on my left.
22:35Now you have to understand that I'm blind in one eye.
22:38And I'm standing there, and I was talking to this gorgeous brunette
22:41that was standing next to me.
22:42I'll never forget it.
22:43And the light turned green, and she said, look out.
22:46She says, look out, and she screamed at me, and I turned,
22:48and I said, oh, my God, and I got hit by a cab.
22:51And I'm waiting, and somebody knocks on the window.
22:56And I look up, and they said, are you here with your brother?
22:59And I said, yeah.
23:02And they said, oh, he just got hit by a cab down on the corner.
23:06And I went, what?
23:07The cab hit me.
23:08It hit me.
23:09It crushed me.
23:11It hit me.
23:11It dragged me.
23:12I went almost to 32nd Street.
23:14And I ended up hitting an antenna of a parked car,
23:18and it ripped my face back open again.
23:20And I'm laying on the ground.
23:22And I was laying on the ground.
23:23I said to myself, I can't move from my waist down.
23:27And my legs hurt, and they were swelling, but I couldn't move.
23:29So I said, let me just lay here.
23:31And my face was bleeding.
23:32And this cop walks over, and he says, this sucker's dead.
23:34And he threw his jacket on top of me.
23:36And I'm laying there, and I'm going, I'm dead.
23:39I don't believe this.
23:41I'm dead.
23:42And I said, well, if you're dead, you're supposed to meet somebody,
23:45the God, the devil, or something.
23:47And I can hear these sirens and people screaming and stuff like that.
23:52The people surrounded the cab so they couldn't get away.
23:54And my sister comes screaming.
23:56So when I get to the corner, there's my brother laying in the street,
23:59and they had him covered with a coat that he was dead.
24:02So I started screaming, oh, my God, I killed you, I killed you, I killed you.
24:08Look what I did to you.
24:09And all of a sudden, the coat went flying in the air.
24:11And he goes, I'm not dead.
24:13I'm not dead.
24:14I'm alive, so.
24:15And they took me to Wayne General, where I stayed for the next 169 days or something.
24:21On crutches and a walker and a wheelchair, you know.
24:24And then, you know, I got addicted to perc-a-dans at that time.
24:27And I started doing a lot of perc-a-dans, and I started doing a lot of booze.
24:30And then I started doing a lot of coke.
24:33So, you know, the drugs were trying to make me move a lot better than what I was moving, you know.
24:38Well, they were saying I couldn't walk again, never mind, blow again.
24:41Everyone did drugs.
24:42We all did drugs, okay.
24:44It just depended who got hooked and who didn't.
24:48I really got heavily addicted into perc-a-dans as pain killers because my legs hurt a lot.
24:53You know, I remember the day my father died.
24:55I remember flushing all the morphine and things down the sink so my brother couldn't get it.
24:59But, I mean, it was really a bad time, but he stuck through it.
25:03I was scheduled to go on the PBA tour, and I never got to go.
25:06I was going to leave the week later because it starts in January, the first week of January.
25:10I never got to go.
25:13So.
25:15When my father was dying, my brother was a stone drug addict, an alcoholic.
25:21My father finally was diagnosed with lung cancer, and he was going to die.
25:26And the doctor told him that, you know, he had six months to live, and don't you think he led your life?
25:30You shouldn't be upset.
25:31My father was 62 at the time.
25:33And I loved my father.
25:34I never had a chance to say I was sorry to my father for everything that I did.
25:37At that time, you know, I was, I had just started using cocaine then.
25:42I mean, I used it because what it did was it really kept me up, and I used it to stay up.
25:47I mean, it also got me high, but at night I couldn't, you know, I used speed and coke, and I was staying up.
25:52And I wasn't really heavily addicted to that at that time.
25:55And at the end, when the liver went to, the cancer went to his liver, you know, he didn't want to stay in the hospital anymore,
26:03and he asked me if he came home, if I could take care of him.
26:06You know, we started to get close again after all the times that we separated.
26:11And for that nine months, like, you know, it was hard because all day long I was out hustling and doing what I need to do,
26:17trying to earn some money.
26:18And at night, my aunt would take care of my dad during the day, and then at night from like 9 or 10 at night to 9 in the morning,
26:24I would stay up and give him his medicine and stuff like that.
26:27It was really hard to watch him die.
26:29So, of course, I let him down, but, you know, you can't go your whole life when you get sober saying,
26:35that's the reason I should destroy my life.
26:37You know, I wish I would have been in a different shape and form when people came to the funeral home to see me.
26:42You know, I'm not the same person I was then.
26:45That was 15 years ago and 20 years ago.
26:48It's 21 years since my dad died, you know.
26:50I mean, it took us to come here for me to come to the grave.
26:58Hey, Dad.
26:59Hey, Mom.
27:01Long time.
27:02When you're a drug addict and alcoholic, you steal from your family.
27:20I mean, you threaten your family.
27:23I could go on forever and ever.
27:25And my family couldn't take it.
27:27Bob always owed 50 million people.
27:29If it wasn't long sharks, it was that, you know, thing.
27:31But there's one time it was really a serious thing, and there was really a contract out on him.
27:36And I had given him the money.
27:39And I went with him to pay it.
27:42Because I enjoyed it.
27:44All right?
27:44And he paid it.
27:45If he came to your door, you gave him money.
27:47And I told all my neighbors, you give him money.
27:51I'm not paying you back.
27:52I'm telling you right now.
27:53Because they all knew Mr. Bowler.
27:55A lot of them didn't know the other side of him.
27:59But they knew us.
28:01Right.
28:01So they'd say, okay, here's 100.
28:02Your sister will give it to me.
28:04And I told my neighbors, you give them money.
28:06It's your money.
28:06My sisters were strong enough to walk away from him.
28:10I never was.
28:11They were strong enough to set limits and boundaries that he wasn't allowed to be in their lives
28:15or this and that.
28:15I was never that strong.
28:18But the effect that it had on everyone was devastating.
28:21I remember a Thanksgiving at my house after my father had died.
28:25He came.
28:26He was like, what you would want to have done was throw him in the shower and scrub him.
28:30He was so down and out.
28:32And there was no way we could get him to leave.
28:35Shoe leather, skin, hair, no teeth, hair wild, no teeth, filthy dirty.
28:42And then it was so bad that my mother really didn't want him to leave.
28:47But then I think just took Gene and somebody took him down to a motel in Patterson to give him a room.
28:54Remember that one?
28:55Yeah.
28:55I mean, it was great.
28:56You wouldn't have known it was him.
28:58You would have thought it was just anybody.
28:59But this was not a human being.
29:01This was a chemical.
29:02This was, um, he just, there was no understanding.
29:08For him it was survival.
29:09Whatever he had to do to survive, there was no right or wrong.
29:12And I just told him, get out of my life.
29:14You are already dead because you're nothing but a chemical.
29:17Get out of my life and go die because I have had it.
29:20I ran into this drug called crack.
29:29I had a guy, I was over his apartment, we were drunk.
29:31And he says to me, why don't you try this?
29:33And I smoked it and I got high.
29:35And it was one of the best highs I've ever had in my life.
29:38And I couldn't stop.
29:41Coke got me sick.
29:42Booze got me sick.
29:43I'd drink because I needed it.
29:44I'd be trembling and then I needed a drink to stop trembling.
29:47But I wouldn't stop trembling.
29:49I thought I would.
29:49Then at the end it was, I couldn't live with it and I couldn't live without it.
29:53I would smoke anywhere from 80 to 100 vials a day.
29:56It was nothing for me to do that.
29:58I mean, I was in a blackout one time.
30:00I came, I walked into Times Square and I yawned.
30:03I opened my eyes up and I'm in the middle of Times Square.
30:06I said, what the hell am I doing here?
30:07And I looked around and, you know, and I said, and I looked in my pocket.
30:11I had 20 bucks and six vials of crack.
30:14And I said, wow.
30:15And I got on the phone and I dialed my friend Bobby Richardi because he had an 800 number.
30:19And I said, let me speak to Bobby.
30:21And Bobby gets on the phone and Bobby and I used to drug together.
30:25I mean, God bless his soul, he's dead today.
30:27But, you know, him and I drugged a lot together.
30:30And I said, Bob, what's the problem?
30:33Everybody's looking for me.
30:34He goes, where are you?
30:34I said, I'm in Times Square.
30:35I said, what the hell are you doing here?
30:36I said, I don't know, but what's the problem?
30:38I said, I was with you last night.
30:39He says, no, Bob, that was three weeks ago.
30:42And I lived in a blackout for three and a half weeks.
30:44And, you know, I don't know what happened that time.
30:46And, you know, we're talking three weeks of your life go by and you don't remember.
30:49You know, this is dangerous.
30:51But this is about showing what it's like when, what happened to you, what it was like and
30:56what happened.
30:58And, you know, it builds up a lot of bad vibes.
31:01I'd go in here and lean in here.
31:03And I would just take this dam and do it.
31:05I'd try to lean here and try to keep cleaning it out and trying to get high and trying to
31:09get high and just maintain my high for the night.
31:12That's what I used to do.
31:13And I'd come over here and this is 8th Avenue, right in these buildings right here, 495,
31:19493, 491.
31:23At one time in the 80s, this was a place where we'd buy a lot of our, I'd buy a lot of my
31:27crack, a lot of my coke, a lot of my dope.
31:30And I'd spend most of the nights here trying to hang around with the street people or the
31:34home, the dope fiends and the drug dens in these buildings.
31:41And down here, you see the crates.
31:45We just picked this up.
31:46We used to go down underneath there and that's where we used to smoke the dope and hang out
31:50and hide during the day.
32:07And if you turn around and you look up the street here, I mean, look up the street, I
32:12mean, you think it's, you just feel a little warmer today, but think about 20 below with
32:17the wind blowing or 10 below and, you know, it's real cold and you got the same clothes
32:22on for six months, same socks, your head's up like this and you're freezing, you're walking
32:27around and you're living right on the street here.
32:30I mean, this is it.
32:31This is where I did.
32:32I walked up and down, all the way up and down these streets.
32:35I used to walk up and down, up and down, up and down all night long.
32:38I walked up and down, up and down, up and down all night long.
32:42This is what I did.
32:47And I used to come in here.
32:49I come down here like three or four in the morning.
32:51Freddy used to work here.
32:53Freddy was pretty good.
32:54As long as, you know, if I owed him money, he owed me money, he would give me $10 or $20.
33:00And as soon as I got $20, I'd go around the corner and try to pick up some bottles of crack.
33:04We'd come over to show world.
33:06I'd check my pocket to see if I have any quarters left.
33:09If I did, or maybe if the guys in the air I knew, I'd go in there and I'd get a couple
33:14of dollars I'd put in and I'd get like maybe a half hour or 45 minutes.
33:18And then there was holes in my mouth from my teeth when I pulled them out.
33:22And then that just made the hole bigger and bigger.
33:25And it's just the whole piece of my mouth was coming off because of the teeth rotting away
33:30and my gums rotting away.
33:32I went to the peep show.
33:32I used to go in there and have what booze and drugs I have.
33:36I would put the dollars in, turn the peep show on.
33:39If I had some booze, I'd drink it.
33:41And then I would put the crack in the stem and then suck the devil's dick.
33:44That's what they call it.
33:45When you smoke a crack, they say you're sucking the devil's dick.
33:54Now it's the next morning.
33:56You have no money.
33:58You don't have money for a bus.
33:59You don't have money for a cup of coffee.
34:01You don't have any money.
34:03You can't go anywhere.
34:04You're all blacked out.
34:05You've been up all night long.
34:07You're filthy.
34:08Your hands are black.
34:08Your throat is like ready to close from the butane.
34:12You're coughing.
34:13You're spitting.
34:14And you're walking around and you ain't got no money.
34:15And even if you got money, if you have $30 left, there's nothing to do.
34:19Because everybody that's on the street right now are all deadbeat artists.
34:22That's all they are.
34:24Deadbeats.
34:26Because I was told that three things are going to happen to me if I don't get better.
34:29I was more than saying I would either kill somebody, kill myself,
34:32or spend the rest of my life in the same asylum.
34:39When you reach the point in life of drinking and drugging
34:41and you beat yourself into submission, I had enough.
34:45I was walking down the street and it came to me that I don't have no more mind.
34:49I didn't have any money.
34:50I had no chance of getting better.
34:51I had ran out of every possible way, method that I could use to exist another day getting high.
34:59And it was all over it.
35:01And after being downstairs in the subway, sitting there smoking crack and feeding 30-pound rats,
35:06I felt that there would be no return if I didn't do something about it.
35:10And that the road back was so long, it was unbelievable.
35:13So I just said, this is it.
35:16We are done and we need to do something.
35:19And I said, well, what's the most painless thing?
35:22Couldn't kill myself drinking and drugging.
35:24All I knew was that the truck's come down the street really fast
35:27and if I jump, I'll never feel it.
35:29And I saw the truck coming down the street and I jumped in front of it.
35:32But as soon as I jumped in front of it, I had one minute of sanity
35:35and I slipped and so did the truck and it missed me.
35:38And if that guy would have caught me, he'd have beat the living crap out of me
35:41and I would have died then.
35:42But I ran away and then I decided from that point on
35:45that I needed to do something about my life.
36:09I was feeling better and they told me I could go to Green Moor.
36:12St. Christopher's Inn.
36:14And I went up there and I said, listen, I said, brother, I said, I need help.
36:18I need a bed.
36:19You've got to help me.
36:20He arrived.
36:21I had said to him, you know, you've been drinking again.
36:24But his driver had left.
36:26You know, we kept him.
36:27And I think that was, God wanted him to be here.
36:35It was, it was like, I guess it was like 45 days since I saw you.
36:40From when he went into Green Moor, which I didn't even know until later.
36:42No, you didn't see me for a long time.
36:44Or even before that, I don't, I don't, time is, time is not something you relate to anymore.
36:49I saw, I saw defeat, but I saw healing.
36:56That the shell, maybe to explain it, the shell had come off.
37:12And there was a beginning of healing.
37:13The emotional inside you could never explain.
37:18I, myself and others, pushed him.
37:22And said, you know, if you're going to be here, and you want to go on with your life,
37:26you're going to have to do something.
37:27And that's just a matter of being here.
37:28It's not just a matter of being in the building and letting all these activities.
37:32But you have to kind of absorb them.
37:34You have to kind of make yourself a part of it.
37:37St. Christopher's was probably the biggest inspiration of them all.
37:40Especially with the Spirio experience with Father Paul.
37:45And knowing that I had some hope in life.
37:49And I got all that from here.
37:51I mean, when I left here, I had a good foundation underneath me.
37:55I knew I was going to stay sober.
37:57And I was determined to stay sober.
37:59And according to the way they structured me, that I could make it.
38:10You know, God saved my life, and St. Christopher saved my life.
38:18So, you know, had I come here, I probably would have died.
38:24Chances are I was dead already, so I would have definitely been dead if I wasn't here.
38:27A friend of his had lent a guy money for a business that he wanted to start.
38:43And his friend died, Bob Rashardi.
38:45And supposedly, the brother wanted the money back.
38:52And the people Bobby knew, they went to collect the money.
38:57And Bob went to Manhattan to tell this guy we wanted the money back or else.
39:01I sat down, I talked to him.
39:03And I was told certain things.
39:06And, you know, I kind of like took it to another level.
39:09And tried to get the guy to get the message.
39:11And the guy did get the message.
39:14But the message not only was being given to the guy, it was being given to the FBI.
39:17You know, I mean, the FBI was there all the time.
39:20I didn't know that.
39:21He was charged in a very serious crime.
39:24He was charged in an extortion.
39:26Some of the people that he was accused of participating with were alleged to have contacts to organized crime.
39:35And he was in a bit of trouble.
39:36They handcuffed me, and they put me in the back of a federal car,
39:39and they took me all these side streets and under a tunnel into the federal building in Manhattan.
39:45And they took me up into a room.
39:46And I'm standing there, and they're going through my wallet.
39:49Who's this guy?
39:50Who's that guy?
39:51And they bring a guy in to meet me.
39:54And they said, do you know who this guy is?
39:55And I said, no.
39:56He said, this is the guy that locked up John Gotti.
39:58Bob had been arrested and charged with extortion in federal court in the Southern District of New York.
40:03The U.S. Attorney, Clark, is telling the magistrate that I'm a cop in a gangrenial crime family,
40:12that I can kill people with the snap of my fingers.
40:15And my lawyer turns to me and says, I thought you were a bowler.
40:17What are you talking about?
40:18I said, I have no idea what he's talking about.
40:20On the day that I met him, he made it clear that he wanted to find a way to acknowledge the criminal activity in which he was involved,
40:28and he was prepared to deal with the consequences, and that was unique among the people I represent.
40:34At the end of the day, Bob was sentenced to a time-served sentence and a term of supervised release,
40:42in other words, a non-incarcerative sentence.
40:45And as you well know, he was able to go on with his life and go on with his trade,
40:50and he proved the judge's judgment about him correct.
40:53This is Tudor Smith, the greatest of all time.
40:59Oh, yeah.
41:00Better than everybody.
41:01Nobody better than Tudor Smith.
41:02He's my friend for 30 years.
41:03Oh, don't get me wrong.
41:04When this kid grew up with Mark Roth, him and Mark Roth were just as even in those days,
41:11but, you know, one went another way, he went another way, and he could have been one of the best in the world.
41:17I've got a dry day.
41:18No.
41:18I used to stay at his house.
41:20When I grew up, this was it.
41:21His father was one of the greatest men I ever met, and he always followed this guy wherever he went.
41:30And he always, if his dad didn't come and we went together, I had to watch over him.
41:36The second dad, let's put it that way.
41:40Yeah, my first night on the tour, I roomed.
41:42I roomed with Tudor.
41:43So he was blessed for me the rest of his life.
41:46So we got 40 years later, he's still blessed for each other.
41:48But it's great.
41:51It's great.
41:51It's great to see him back.
41:52Good.
42:09Good to see you.
42:11All right.
42:12Everything's good.
42:13Good.
42:13You ready?
42:13Yeah, I'm ready.
42:14All right.
42:15You know, it hasn't been an easy life.
42:20Like I said before, he's come out of it.
42:23He's back.
42:24He's off the canvas now, and my son is going to help him get back, drilling his equipment.
42:30And once we get everything ready for him, I think he's going to be very competitive.
42:34We'll be right back.
43:04I started bowling again as Bob Brzezicki when I got sober.
43:26Because I wanted no affiliation because I'm sober.
43:29My name is Bob Brzezicki.
43:30I wasn't sober as Bob Hurd.
43:32You need to just deal with this.
43:34This is recovery, and recovery is keep going forward.
43:38Not look at the past.
43:40Because I'm not regretting my past, but I'm not going to beat myself up because when I was
43:47not sober that my parents got to see me be a lowlife.
43:51Today I'm not a lowlife, so they see that.
43:54We all believe in God, and we believe in our higher power.
43:56So I know they're in heaven, that's all that matters.
43:59Whether I go to heaven or not, but we know that they're in heaven.
44:03Well, Earl Anthony, we have arrived.
44:14We have arrived at our championship match.
44:17The Super Bowl high roller, the winner of this match, $100,000.
44:22Wow, Brzezicki and Chris James.
44:27Both of these guys are feeling a lot of heat right now, and the opening shots will probably
44:33get down there real quick.
44:36There are a lot of Bob Brzezicki fans all across the country.
44:41That's a nice ball.
44:42There it is.
44:44Outstanding shot there, and you can see they're both using a lot of ball speed.
44:49Bob using a little more than the younger player, Chris.
44:52Besides being the greatest bowler, which he is, there was a higher purpose for him.
45:02And that's the kind of thing, a psychological thing.
45:03That's a double for Bob, and it could affect Chris James.
45:07Only 23, as I mentioned.
45:10Already feeling plenty of pressure just bowling in this circumstance.
45:15Oh, another good shot.
45:17Boy, that's a beautiful ball after that double from Brzezicki.
45:20So somewhere these demons were conquered.
45:24I don't know who conquered them, but I think 99% has to go to Bob.
45:30Conquered his own demons.
45:31He's got a determination in his face.
45:35Both bowlers working on a double.
45:38Oh!
45:40Brzezicki!
45:42Well, I'll tell you what.
45:44You've got to feel pretty fortunate, as you can see.
45:47And he's out there with that bowling ball.
45:50You never know.
45:52There might be another hand behind him helping.
45:53In the fifth frame.
46:00Oh!
46:02There's a look at him.
46:06You're getting another chance now.
46:09You can start a new career.
46:11In what you're doing, in addition in bowling,
46:14where you can again become a national champion.
46:17So take advantage of it right now.
46:20But it really comes down to Chris James needing three strikes minimum
46:23to make Bob Perry get a mark.
46:26Bob Brzezicki should say get a mark on the 10th frame.
46:28It's there!
46:28Oh!
46:29Wait a minute!
46:30Look out!
46:32Hit!
46:32Oh, no!
46:35Unbelievable.
46:36His fourth solid 10 of the match.
46:38I think Bob had a tough life.
46:42But he hasn't hit the 10th count.
46:45Right now he's on nine and three quarters.
46:49You know, but he's up.
46:50Well, it's a wonderful story.
46:51And he's very open about talking about what Brzezicki is.
46:54He's a recovering alcoholic.
46:56He works with kids day in and day out.
46:58He gets kids off the streets.
46:59He finds jobs.
47:00He'll like it!
47:01He'll be lost!
47:04All right, 200 to 193.
47:06And Bob Brzezicki is the champion of the Super Bowl High Roller here in Las Vegas.
47:25There is a winner, Bob Brzezicki, the winner of the High Roller here at the showboat in Las Vegas.
47:33$100,000.
47:35$200, 193 over Christian.
47:38Bob, we're in the middle of a wonderful moment here at this showboat.
47:41And I don't know if you can find the words, but please try.
47:45This is a moment that you've got your whole life to wait for.
47:50I come from a...
47:52I had a real bad time in life.
47:54And five years ago, this was a dream.
47:57And today it's reality.
47:58And I have a lot of people for it.
48:00And I thank God for it.
48:01And without it, I'd have nothing.
48:03Very, very nice.
48:07I think he's fine now.
48:09I think that there won't be no count of ten.
48:12I think from now on, he'll be the referee.
48:15Counting for other people.
48:16Happy birthday to you.
48:22Happy birthday to you.
48:25Happy birthday, dear Bobby.
48:30Happy birthday to you.
48:33I didn't think I was going to make 35.
48:48I didn't think I was going to make 50 years old.
48:50Not at all.
48:51You know what a ramp coming down is?
48:54Ten years of sobriety.
48:56Sober ten years this month.
48:57It wasn't that bad.
48:58This month is the month that I got sober.
49:02June 27th of 1992.
49:06Like it says in another wonderful book,
49:09you know, love endures all things,
49:11it bears all things.
49:12You know, love is what it is, you know.
49:14And I think Bobby got a genuine love for people.
49:16Especially people that went through what we went through,
49:18you know, and took the journey that we took.
49:24We started Last Stop in September of last year,
49:27of 2001.
49:29The first original reason of Last Stop
49:31was to start a motor vehicle agency.
49:34Also, I was doing secondary referrals
49:36for treatment centers.
49:37In other words, when people are in treatment
49:39for drugs and alcohol,
49:40I would find another treatment center
49:42for them to go to,
49:43such for people who are homeless
49:44or people that need more treatment
49:47to stay in them for a long-term treatment center.
49:49I would try to find that
49:50when I was working at several treatment centers.
49:53So when I came and we started the store,
49:55my sister felt it would be a good idea
49:57if we started doing referrals.
50:00In other words, put a sign outside
50:03that people have drug and alcohol problems
50:04and need help,
50:05because a lot of people in this world
50:06don't know what to do
50:07when they have problems with drugs and alcohol.
50:09So I started Last Stop.
50:12It was a train station.
50:13Patsy loved the building.
50:14Patsy's my sister.
50:15and she loved the building
50:16and she felt,
50:17and I felt Last Stop would be a great name.
50:19I don't know if I do this
50:20because I'm looking for any type of gratitude.
50:23I just do it because it needs to be done.
50:25I mean, there's a lot of people
50:26that don't want to do it.
50:27People want to stay sober
50:29and don't want to help people,
50:30and there's people that want to stay sober
50:32and help people.
50:33The best way I can help them
50:34is the people that are dying.
50:36There's a lot of people dying today.
50:38You know, it's good that you help a lot of people.
50:41It's not about money.
50:42I don't charge.
50:44I don't ask for anything.
50:46People that talk about getting better,
50:51a lot of people don't know
50:51what it's like to get better.
50:53A lot of people have different ideas,
50:54but when you come from that store,
50:56it's a little bit different.
51:08It's a little bit different.
51:38It's a little bit different.
52:08It's a little bit different.
52:38It's a little bit different.
52:39It's a little bit different.
52:40It's a little bit different.
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