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did sisters bully 15-year-old girl? | part 1
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00:00Ruby socked me in my face, knocking my glasses down.
00:03Double the trouble from two sisters.
00:05While Ruby was on top of me, hitting me,
00:07Bertha took my phone.
00:09And their mother.
00:10Why didn't you stop them?
00:11I kept screaming at them.
00:13Wonders where they went wrong.
00:14I wasn't there, Your Honor.
00:16My mom's lying.
00:17You're a liar.
00:17How are you gonna call me a liar?
00:19I can call you what I think you are.
00:20You're a liar.
00:21And a thief.
00:22And not much of a daughter, either.
00:24Judge Judy.
00:25Miss Flores, how old are you?
00:26Fifteen.
00:27And do you go to school with the Ramirez sisters?
00:30Dressed with one.
00:31Who goes to school with Miss Flores?
00:33I am.
00:33What's your name?
00:34Hermit Ruby.
00:35Are you in the same class?
00:36No.
00:36And you're another sister?
00:37Yes.
00:38How old are you?
00:39Twenty-three.
00:40So you don't go to school?
00:41No.
00:41Were you there on the date of this fight?
00:43No.
00:44You weren't?
00:45No.
00:45So why are you here?
00:46They said that I was there, and...
00:48Who said you were there?
00:49Michelle.
00:50She says that you were there?
00:52Correct.
00:52Well, if she says that you were there, you were there.
00:57You wanna know why?
00:58Yes.
00:58I'm gonna tell you why.
01:00Because this is about an assault, and she looks normal.
01:04You haven't been in a psychiatric mental institution in the last six months, have you?
01:08No.
01:08No.
01:09So she's not crazy.
01:10So if somebody is assaulted, hurt, if I punched Bird, he wouldn't say, she did it.
01:19He'd want the one that punched him to be punished.
01:22Do you understand?
01:23I understand.
01:23Otherwise, you would be crazy, and she doesn't look crazy to me.
01:27Do you understand that?
01:28I understand.
01:28So when you say to me, I wasn't there, because I read the papers, and I read that one sister
01:33ran away, that would be you.
01:35You're Bertha.
01:35Correct.
01:36I am Bertha.
01:37Right.
01:37Now, how did I know that?
01:38You think I had a crystal ball?
01:40No.
01:40So, I want you to remove from your mind the thought of lying to me.
01:46Do you get it?
01:48I understand.
01:48Otherwise, I'm gonna make a fool out of you in front of 11 million people, and they do
01:53this show in repeats, in perpetuity, for the rest of the universe.
01:59You get it?
02:00I understand.
02:00Yeah.
02:01If you were defending or got involved with a fight that your sister was having, that's
02:05sort of understandable.
02:06But running away and lying about it is not.
02:09Got it?
02:09I understand.
02:11Good.
02:11Now, I would like you to tell me exactly what happened, and this was on April 29th.
02:16Okay.
02:16You had been in school that day?
02:18Yes.
02:19I had came out of school off my bus.
02:22Ruby approached me with Bertha and told me...
02:24The two of them?
02:25Yes.
02:26They approached me and told me that they wanted to fight me, but I continued on walking away.
02:31I ignored what they...
02:31Who said they wanted to fight you?
02:33Which one?
02:34Ruby.
02:34Why were you annoyed at her?
02:35Because all this started, it was from school.
02:38They were saying that the phone got stolen, and they were trying to say that I stole
02:42it.
02:43Just a second.
02:43Who said you stole a phone from her?
02:46Well, her friends.
02:47Her friends?
02:48Yes.
02:49Not her.
02:50She didn't say it, but friends of hers said it.
02:52Yep.
02:53To you?
02:54Yes.
02:54And that was in school on April 29th?
02:57Mm-hmm.
02:57Or that was before?
02:58I think before.
02:59How much before?
03:00Two weeks?
03:01Two?
03:01So two weeks before the fight, some of her friends...
03:06And herself?
03:07Well, you didn't say herself.
03:08You said some of her friends came to you and said to you that they heard that you stole
03:13her phone.
03:14Right.
03:14Correct.
03:15And that made you mad?
03:16Yeah, because she came and approached me as well about...
03:18Just a second.
03:19She approached you when?
03:21That day when we fought.
03:22Okay, so that day when you fought, she came up to you...
03:26Yes.
03:27...and said to you...
03:28Go ahead.
03:29We were on the bus, actually, when she came up to me.
03:31So now you're on the bus on 429?
03:33Well, yeah, that's when it happened.
03:34We were coming out from school.
03:36We were on the bus.
03:37Once we got off the bus, that's when we...
03:41...fought.
03:43Take a breath.
03:46Don't make things up as you're going on.
03:48Do you understand?
03:50Yes.
03:51Perfect.
03:51You're sitting on the school bus.
03:54Yes.
03:54Two weeks before, some of her friends had said to you,
03:57I hear you stole Miss Flores' phone.
04:01Well, they called me up to the office as well about the phone.
04:03Just a second.
04:04So you got called to the principal's office.
04:06Right.
04:06Yes.
04:07On what date did you get called to the principal's office?
04:10I do not recall that date.
04:12Was it the date of the fight or before?
04:14Before.
04:15How much before?
04:16Like two weeks as well.
04:18So on the day that her phone was stolen, you got called to the principal's office?
04:22Yes.
04:23How many times have you been in the principal's office?
04:26Like twice.
04:27So that it's vivid in your mind.
04:29Yeah, regarding about the phone.
04:31Both times about the phone?
04:33Yes.
04:33So the first time was two weeks before the fight?
04:36Yes.
04:37When was the second time?
04:39Like a week?
04:40Don't ask a question.
04:41I asked you, when was the next time?
04:44First time was two weeks before the fight.
04:46When was the next time?
04:47I don't recall that date.
04:48I don't recall that date.
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