ITL reaction to the weird penalty game vs the Colts

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ITL reacts to a strange, penalty-heavy game vs the Colts

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00:00This was a weird penalty game.

00:02We talked about how it was kind of off early on for the offense of the Texans.

00:08It was also off because what was happening with the execution

00:11and the way that this thing was going early on?

00:13Did you surmise anything of this?

00:16Because early on, I was like, the operation of not covering a wide receiver,

00:23but then also covering a wide receiver, just messing that up.

00:27I forget which one it was in this moment.

00:29I'm so flustered by how upset I was watching it happen.

00:32Well, I think Blake Fisher reported eligible and wasn't covered on one of them.

00:35Right, there you go.

00:35And then there was another one where even J.J. Watt, I shouldn't say even,

00:39but J.J. Watt astutely, the Texans ended up calling a timeout,

00:43said, hey, they're doing it again.

00:45They're screwing this up again.

00:47They didn't cover up the tight end on the other side.

00:51That's not rust.

00:52That's not C.J. Stroud rust.

00:54There were moments of C.J. Stroud rust, and I think he cleaned it up,

00:58and we talked about that.

00:59You don't think that operation of making sure that those guys are lined up correctly?

01:03Well, maybe ultimately he has some responsibility to put them there,

01:06obviously, at the line of script.

01:07This didn't happen with Davis.

01:08Right.

01:08And I know that that's going to be a popular refrain in Houston.

01:12Well, it was early on.

01:12Tell me about your Davis Mills takes in the first quarter,

01:15because my wife was all about it.

01:17Oh, yes.

01:17Yes, I heard Jan was getting spicy with it.

01:20But the thing that I came to was, then you also had the weird illegal formation on the kickoff,

01:27and I was like, oh, so this might not just be an offense thing.

01:30What is this?

01:32It's probably a combination.

01:33There is the responsibility at the line of scrimmage by C.J. Stroud.

01:36I mean, he clearly could have gotten them straight.

01:38But they weren't straight to begin with.

01:41The play call, whether it was the script, whether how they worked it,

01:44and there was some confusion during the week or whatever,

01:47it was just disjointed, and that's not something you want to see.

01:50That said, they did start cleaning it up, and they looked much better at the end.

01:55They started cleaning it up.

01:56And then.

01:57The refs didn't.

01:57And then, yes.

01:59This was objectively, and outside of any level of bias,

02:04understanding where my feet are, this was terrible evading this game.

02:08Like, it was not.

02:09Well, terrible actually might be a little harsh, but it was bad.

02:11No, it was terrible.

02:12It was terrible.

02:13You can't.

02:14I mean, that was a full second.

02:16I've seen it broken down on the Internet of the delay a game that was not called,

02:21that was huge.

02:22And then, the pass interference, look, we're all happy now,

02:27but the pass interference was a swipe at the dude's hand.

02:30Yes.

02:30Like, just like, you know, basically a little swipe at the dude's hand.

02:34If I were an Indianapolis Colts fan right now, I would be losing my mind.

02:39They are.

02:39I feel like.

02:40They are.

02:40Don't worry about it.

02:41I feel like they're losing their mind over the no-good field goal that was good.

02:45That was the cherry on top.

02:47All right, so I think that those are the three biggest portions of this,

02:51and I think probably almost in order, on that big third, was it third down?

02:56Third and long, in fact.

02:56Yeah.

02:57It was a third and 17 or something like that.

02:59Something like that, yeah.

03:00Where C.J. Stroud, it's a delay of game by the letter of the law.

03:05I thought, can you pull up the pool report?

03:07I have the pool report right here.

03:08Was it Clay Martin who was the official here?

03:10We should say his name because you should probably remember his name next time it comes up.

03:13He runs a pretty disorganized crew, in my estimation.

03:17What was his response to the delay of game?

03:20So you have a pool reporter whenever there are controversial calls.

03:24This was three questions they asked Clay Martin, which says a lot about the job that they did.

03:29Yeah, because usually the pool report is only, we ask if there's something really big that was problematic that happened.

03:34They were like, hey, we got multiple questions, big dog.

03:36We got work that we need to put in here.

03:38Hey, bro, you got time?

03:39You got some time?

03:40Here, take a seat.

03:41Hey, you might as well have a seat.

03:42We going to be here for a little bit.

03:44Yeah, so this was his explanation on the delay of game.

03:47The back judge is the calling official, and there is a process on that.

03:51When the clock hits zero, he looks down to the ball, and if the ball is snapped, he looks down from the clock to the ball.

03:57We leave that alone.

03:58That's what he ruled on the play.

04:00That's not really an answer.

04:01I mean, it is an answer, but it was a full second plus.

04:06Yeah, that's the thing.

04:07But the standard, that is the standard response.

04:11That is the boilerplate response that you get in these circumstances, and I wasn't that upset by it.

04:16I understand why Colts fans would be in that moment.

04:18But how long do it take you to look at the ball and then look back up at the clock?

04:22That was the thing.

04:24How long do it take you to do that?

04:26Seth made a fantastic point earlier.

04:27He said he's talked to some refs, and that's what they say.

04:31The reality is they just kind of play it by feel.

04:32If it feels like you're taking too long, then they'll call it.

04:35So I can maybe let them live off that because it is not too far from what they typically do.

04:40The pass interference was the one where I was like, this is real nasty business.

04:44Well, this is the follow-up from the pool report.

04:45This is real nasty business.

04:46The reporter said, on the same play, what led to the pass interference penalty on Kenny Moore?

04:51And Clay Martin said, the calling official had an arm grab at the top of the route.

04:56When you look back, the ball was in the air, and when you see the ball in the air, that makes it pass interference.

05:01Okay, so here, if he did really grab his arm, I love when they say, well, the official had this.

05:10He had that.

05:10He saw this.

05:11But that's not what happened.

05:13So he saw it, and it was wrong.

05:15Aggressively wrong.

05:16It was just a swipe at the hand.

05:17It was just incredible.

05:19I think Hutchinson was actually tripping.

05:20I think he was already falling.

05:21He might have been.

05:22I think he was already falling, if we're going to be entirely honest.

05:24My estimation, I could easily be wrong, but I did go back and watch this game.

05:28TV copy.

05:29I would love to see all 22 things in that nature, which I think I have access to now today.

05:35But yeah, man, I think that that was one of those things where, I'll take it, but I will

05:38acknowledge that that was one of a few things that they did wrong.

05:42And then there's the extra point.

05:43Those happening on the same play as Wild, and then there's the extra point, which I don't

05:47know how we get to a correct answer here.

05:49But hey, Clay, what'd you see, big dog?

05:50Okay, so earlier he said, the calling official had the arm out.

05:54And this one he said, the calling official had the ball above the upright and completely

05:59inside the outside edge of the upright, so he ruled a successful try.

06:04Okay, this one is the only one of the three that I'll give them a little bit of grace.

06:09Yeah, same.

06:10Because from our perspective, there are so many figments of the imagination, so to speak,

06:16that you could, you know, it was an illusion, so almost, where the ball is and isn't.

06:23I'll give them this one, but even when you slow it down.

06:25That was super close, man.

06:27The problem is, there's no way that we can cross-reference when it's crossing that threshold.

06:33Right, the illusion of it all.

06:34I'll give them a little bit on that one.

06:36I just don't know what to do with that one.

06:37Do you buy in at all to the idea that the Xavier Hutchinson pass interference was a make-up

06:43call for the lack of a pass interference on that deep ball, that pass interference that

06:47was called on, was it Kamari on the right side, where it was just uncatchable.

06:53Ball was way, way out.

06:54I mean, it hits halfway through, halfway down the sideline, and I don't know that Downs

06:59was going to get up and elevate to go and try and get at that one.

07:03Do you feel, any credence to that in your mind?

07:05I do believe in make-up calls.

07:07It's going to be hard for me to buy that, though.

07:09Yeah, and those were like a third and 15.

07:11Those were bad.

07:12And then immediately after the Tyler Warren touchdown.

07:14Right.

07:15And so you could easily take it if you wanted to from a Texas perspective and go, all right,

07:19definitely refs were bad in favor of the Texans in some ways, but also there was another

07:24way in which that you probably gave up seven because the refs had a really weird call.

07:28And by the way, Colts, make an extra point yourself.

07:31Yeah.

07:31And then you have an opportunity to go and tie it with the field goal and take the overtime

07:35or something of that nature.

07:37But yeah, bad refs.

07:38But ultimately, I think I land on, I don't think they impacted the way that this game went,

07:42even though it was really ugly in the way it happened.

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