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00:00Steve Kilby!
00:08Jess, how are you? I'm good.
00:10I'm great.
00:11You grew up when the moon landings were actually happening.
00:15What was that like?
00:17Extraordinary. It was 1969.
00:20The Eagle has landed.
00:21And I remember it was during a maths class
00:24and we had a little TV up there
00:28and we watched them walk on the moon.
00:30That's one small step for man,
00:33one giant leap for mankind.
00:37It's strange we all just sat there and watched and went,
00:40oh, yeah, we've landed on the moon.
00:41And then he just went on with the day.
00:43Yeah. Isn't that bizarre?
00:44Back out in the playground,
00:46having your milk at 11 o'clock and trying to chat up a girl.
00:51It was a very different world.
00:53Lift-off for a group of six women.
00:56Seeing as we are going out in reality...
00:59Back to the moon and beyond.
01:01How do we make sure that we do that well?
01:05We won't.
01:06Look, I know what you're thinking.
01:22It looks like I'm prepping for zero gravity.
01:25But no, I'm not leaving Earth.
01:27I'm making a sculpture.
01:28And I built this piece
01:32to celebrate one of Earth's smallest superheroes.
01:36The bee.
01:37The inspiration was helping people
01:39to stay connected to their own love for the environment.
01:42Because I've always believed
01:44that art can speak to the urgent things.
01:46Climate.
01:47Care.
01:49Connection.
01:49And I've spent most of my time
01:51focused on the space beneath the clouds.
01:53On the series Star Trek Strange New World,
01:56she stars as Nurse Chappell.
01:58Bob is rejecting this here.
01:59That is, until I joined the cast
02:01of Star Trek Strange New Worlds.
02:04Because suddenly then,
02:05I was surrounded by scientists,
02:08futurists,
02:09thinkers,
02:10people who opened my mind
02:11to what's happening up there.
02:13I can't wait for us to hear the sonic boom.
02:16Oh, the moon!
02:18You guys, I have to tell you,
02:19look at the moon!
02:20Yep, we are entering
02:22a new era of space exploration.
02:25Hey, you're in space!
02:27Woo!
02:28I'm not going to lie,
02:29it's a bit surreal.
02:31And also a little terrifying.
02:34This is not right.
02:35Something happened.
02:36We have lost this ship.
02:38It would appear to have had
02:39a launch vehicle fail.
02:41But most of all,
02:42it's got me thinking
02:43how many resources went into
02:45putting these women into space.
02:48With our track record here on Earth,
02:50can we really go into space
02:53without totally messing it up?
02:56And
02:56can art
02:58help guide the way?
03:03I've heard you've got five albums coming out.
03:05Yeah.
03:06Not slowing down at all?
03:08I can't.
03:09I'm wired into this thing
03:1124 hours a day.
03:12Why are we so obsessed with space, anyway?
03:16It's a planet in a spiritual sky.
03:18To find out,
03:19I've come to chat with one of
03:20Australia's greatest songwriters,
03:23Steve Kilby.
03:24He's world-renowned as leader of the band
03:36The Church
03:36and co-writer of their smash hit
03:38Under the Milky Way.
03:39With a musical imagination
03:46that's taken listeners
03:47to other times
03:48and other worlds,
03:49I'm keen to hear
03:53why Steve thinks space
03:54has inspired so many artists.
03:58Space and sci-fi
04:00has been something
04:01that is fairly new to me.
04:04And it seems that
04:05you share that interest
04:06but maybe it goes back
04:07a little further?
04:08All the way.
04:09Yeah.
04:11I remember
04:11when I was 18,
04:13suddenly this genre of space rock
04:15just came out of nowhere.
04:20It was Hawkwind
04:21and Pink Floyd
04:22and then Ziggy Stardust.
04:29For the first time ever,
04:30musicians were exploring
04:33not just the idea of space
04:34but the feeling of space.
04:36That really got me in.
04:39And this band, Hawkwind,
04:40have you ever listened to them?
04:41I have had a little listen to them.
04:42Yeah.
04:43They're awesome.
04:43Yeah.
04:44So cool.
04:51Well, they were the first band
04:52I ever heard
04:53who were trying to give you
04:54the feeling of what space travel
04:56might be like
04:57and sort of had this,
04:59for want of a better word,
05:01druggie feeling.
05:03The stars and the comets
05:04are all translated
05:06as synthesizers
05:07and oscillators.
05:11It's like...
05:12So exploring space
05:28imaginatively for you
05:30is more about the escapism of it?
05:33Yes.
05:33Yeah.
05:33In music and art,
05:35I'm not really interested in reality.
05:38I'm interested in this
05:39poetic aspect of space.
05:43And when you're immersed
05:45in this weird,
05:46spiritual,
05:47magical world,
05:49that's music
05:50that gives you ample opportunities
05:53for weirdness.
05:54Yeah.
05:55Because space is weird.
05:56Different.
05:56So that's where I go back
05:59to find the things
06:00I want to give out
06:01to the audience.
06:02Yeah.
06:02This other world.
06:03Yeah.
06:04Wish I knew
06:05what you were.
06:07And you can definitely feel
06:09that expansive,
06:10otherworldly quality
06:12in the church's biggest song,
06:14Under the Milky Way.
06:15Because what do you think
06:17about the song
06:19is so accessible,
06:21universally,
06:22connective?
06:23I think it's ambiguous.
06:25And I think ambiguity
06:26is a really interesting thing
06:27and it's one of the things
06:28I kind of specialise in.
06:32You've got this line
06:33of ambiguity.
06:34If you go too far
06:35and it's too specific,
06:37you're going to block
06:38a lot of people out.
06:39They're going to go,
06:40that can't be me.
06:41But if you can fall
06:42right on the line
06:43and people love it,
06:44Under the Milky Way
06:45is that.
06:46Anybody can inhabit
06:47that song.
06:53I happen to think
06:54that because it's
06:55under the stars
06:55that people can look up
06:57and realise
06:58that we're all seeing
06:59the same thing
06:59and so it's unifying
07:01in a way.
07:01It's really beautiful.
07:02No one's ever said
07:03that before.
07:04Really?
07:04No.
07:04That's very surprising to me.
07:06No, looking up
07:07the cosmos
07:08reduces us all to one.
07:10Yeah, exactly.
07:12Looking up at the stars
07:14is kind of an equaliser.
07:16No matter who we are,
07:17we're all staring up
07:19at the same sky.
07:22And maybe that
07:23shared perspective
07:24is exactly what we need
07:26as we head back
07:27into space.
07:29At the start
07:31of this episode,
07:32I asked Steve,
07:33how do we make sure
07:35that we do that well?
07:37We won't.
07:38And let's just say
07:40he didn't sugarcoat it.
07:42We will go to other planets,
07:43we will pollute them
07:45and burn them out
07:46and if there are people
07:47there,
07:48we will enslave them
07:49and kill them
07:50and try and make them
07:51believe in Jesus
07:52and that sort of
07:54seems to be
07:55what humanity does.
07:56Which brings me
07:57to the real question.
07:59Do you think
08:00that the art
08:01that we make
08:01can have an impact
08:03on how things
08:04play out?
08:06Yes, I do.
08:08You can get a glimpse
08:08of the world
08:09we could have
08:10through art.
08:12Now that's something
08:13I can work with.
08:16Because sure,
08:18art reflects
08:18the world we live in,
08:20but I'm interested
08:21in how it can
08:23offer an alternative.
08:26Right now,
08:27it's easy to feel
08:28like the future
08:28is being built
08:29for the few,
08:30not the many.
08:33I want to thank
08:33every Amazon employee
08:35and every Amazon customer
08:37because you guys
08:39paid for all this.
08:40And while billionaires
08:41turn space
08:42into their next
08:43big business,
08:45down here on Earth,
08:48one artist
08:48is imagining
08:49something else entirely.
08:51This is so cool.
09:06Sewa Atapha's studio
09:07feels like stepping
09:08into a time portal.
09:10Whoa, that's cool.
09:11On one side,
09:12piles of vintage tech.
09:14So these are bits
09:14and pieces of e-waste
09:16and like scrap tech.
09:18Epic.
09:18On the other...
09:19This monitor is crazy.
09:21This sleek,
09:22high-powered workstation
09:23with surreal new worlds
09:25in progress.
09:26This is my spaceship.
09:30It's where she builds
09:32her digital dreamscapes,
09:34not as a visitor,
09:35but as the main character.
09:37Growing up,
09:38I was obsessed
09:39with like avatar-based games.
09:42But I felt like
09:43I could never totally
09:44be myself
09:45or do what I wanted.
09:46So I just started
09:48making my own
09:49little metaverses
09:50and trying to create
09:51visions of our future
09:53where I could
09:53actually see myself.
10:02Sewa's futures
10:03aren't billionaires'
10:04playgrounds,
10:04that's for sure.
10:06They're a lush,
10:07layered,
10:08black perspective
10:08on what our journey
10:10to space
10:10could look like.
10:12Displayed across
10:13five screens,
10:14this one features
10:15female warriors
10:16rising from burning
10:17slave castles
10:18and shipwrecked
10:20colonial vessels.
10:21In Sewa's words,
10:23a futuristic realm
10:24of resilience
10:25and reclamation.
10:27Like, I'm noticing
10:28that you have
10:28like a real interest
10:29in vintage future,
10:31like old imaginings
10:32of the future.
10:34Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
10:34You can't look
10:35to the future
10:36without looking
10:36to the past.
10:37Mm-hmm.
10:38I think that's
10:38where we mess it up
10:39is dreaming up futures
10:40that have nothing
10:41to do with our past.
10:43So I think that's
10:43why I'm really into
10:44those older depictions
10:45of the future.
10:47Yeah.
10:47Because they give us
10:48an indication
10:48of what we've wanted,
10:49what our dreams were,
10:51why we want to make
10:52these things.
10:52Yeah.
10:53I guess, yeah.
10:55And Sewa's work
10:56is part of a tradition
10:57that digs deep
10:58into those dreams.
10:59It's called Afrofuturism,
11:02a reimagining of the future
11:03through a black cultural lens.
11:07It first emerged
11:08during the civil rights
11:09movement of the 60s,
11:10partly in response
11:12to a very white space program.
11:14We choose to go
11:16to the moon
11:16in this decade
11:17and do the other thing.
11:19From the cosmic jazz
11:20of Sun Ra
11:21to the science fiction
11:23of Octavia Butler
11:24to Janelle Monae
11:25and Black Panther,
11:28it's about depicting
11:28a future where
11:29African history,
11:31culture,
11:32mythology
11:32and tradition thrive.
11:35Your work has been
11:35described as
11:36Afrofuturistic
11:37quite a bit.
11:37How do you feel
11:38about being included
11:39in that tradition
11:40of art making,
11:41like that world?
11:43Feels great.
11:44Like, the more
11:45I can sort of create
11:46visions like that
11:47that can hopefully inspire,
11:49that really means
11:50a lot to me.
11:53For me,
11:54I make my artwork
11:55not really for the people
11:56of today.
11:57I make it for the people
11:58of the future.
11:58I make it for my
11:59future ancestors.
12:01Sort of like
12:02the opposite of an elder.
12:03Like, as insane
12:04as it sounds,
12:05I feel like I'm trying
12:06to learn from people
12:06that aren't here yet.
12:08That's so cool.
12:09You know, like,
12:10learn from my elders,
12:11but I also try and
12:11think about my
12:13great-great-grandchild,
12:14trying to make a world
12:15that she would want
12:16to live in.
12:17I love Seewa's works.
12:25She calls them
12:26heavenly dystopias.
12:29They're beautiful,
12:31bold,
12:31and they make space
12:32feel like it belongs
12:33to all of us,
12:34not just the richest,
12:35the fastest,
12:36or the first.
12:38They're not just
12:39visions of survival,
12:41they're visions of joy,
12:43of care,
12:43of possibility.
12:47But I know
12:48what you might
12:48be thinking.
12:50Can art
12:51really help
12:52shape the future?
12:54Like, really?
12:57I controlled myself
12:59and didn't wear
13:00my Star Trek uniform
13:01for the interview.
13:01Oh, that would've
13:02been so good!
13:03I would've loved that!
13:04It's in the closet,
13:05you tell me.
13:07I'm nowhere near
13:08as much of a sci-fi fan
13:09as you.
13:09Probably why you had
13:10friends in high school.
13:14We have Michael.
13:16Through Star Trek.
13:17I've met some amazing
13:18people working
13:18in the space industry
13:19and Mike Gold
13:21is one of them.
13:22One of the biggest
13:23Star Trek fans
13:24around in the industry.
13:25He's not just
13:26a sci-fi fan.
13:27Mike spent his career
13:28turning science fiction
13:30into science fact.
13:32From NASA
13:32to Redwire,
13:34a company building
13:35tech for life
13:36beyond Earth.
13:37And he's got me
13:38wondering,
13:39can a TV show
13:40really shape
13:42what we build
13:42in space?
13:43You are
13:44without a doubt
13:46the biggest
13:47Star Trek fan
13:47that I've ever met.
13:48Did it influence you
13:49to embark
13:51on the career path
13:52that you've taken?
13:53Absolutely.
13:54My life
13:54wouldn't be
13:55what it is
13:56without Star Trek.
13:58Not just
13:59the inspiration
14:01and awe
14:02and wonder
14:02of space,
14:03but the optimistic
14:05society
14:06that Star Trek
14:07portrayed.
14:08While I may be
14:09the biggest
14:10Star Trek fan,
14:11you know,
14:11if you go
14:12to NASA headquarters,
14:14I wouldn't be alone.
14:15That so many
14:16of us at NASA,
14:17so many of us
14:17in the private sector
14:18were inspired
14:19by Star Trek.
14:22Could you, like,
14:23give us some insight
14:23into some ways
14:24that Star Trek
14:25has influenced
14:26NASA and Redwire's
14:27approach to space
14:28exploration?
14:29Absolutely.
14:30And you'll have
14:30to stop me
14:31because we could do
14:31a show just
14:33on this question
14:34alone.
14:35It was because
14:36of the diversity
14:37of Star Trek
14:38and particularly
14:39the work
14:39of Michelle Nichols
14:40who played
14:41Lieutenant Aurora
14:42in the original series.
14:44She spent,
14:44I think,
14:44the better part
14:45of six months
14:45under contract
14:46from NASA
14:47crisscrossing
14:48the country
14:49to find female
14:50and African-American
14:51astronauts,
14:52minority astronauts,
14:53and those became
14:54the first female
14:55and minority
14:56astronaut candidates
14:56in the history
14:57of NASA.
14:59This is your NASA.
15:00The name
15:01of the first
15:01space shuttle
15:02was originally,
15:04I believe,
15:04going to be
15:04Constellation,
15:06and it was because
15:07of Star Trek fans
15:08writing in
15:08and complaining
15:09that they made
15:10the name
15:11of the first
15:11space shuttle
15:12Enterprise.
15:14At Redwire,
15:15we're building
15:16a system
15:16that can take
15:17the dirt
15:17from the moon
15:18and turn it
15:19into roads,
15:21turn it into housing,
15:22and that very much
15:23is modeled off
15:24of the Star Trek
15:25replicator technology.
15:27They're all
15:28fantastic examples
15:29of Star Trek
15:30influencing our
15:31future in space,
15:33but there's
15:33another one,
15:34a big one,
15:35that Mike himself
15:36helped bring about.
15:37If you had 15 seconds
15:39in an elevator
15:39to tell me
15:40what the Artemis
15:40Accords are,
15:41what would you say?
15:41The Artemis Accords
15:43are a global
15:44commitment by now
15:4553 nations
15:47to explore space
15:48in a peaceful,
15:50safe, sustainable,
15:51and transparent fashion.
15:53I would say
15:54they're the vehicle
15:55to achieve the dream
15:57that is Star Trek.
15:58Wow.
15:59And what was
15:59your part in it?
16:01Well, as you
16:01might note from the name,
16:03I named
16:04the Artemis Accords.
16:06Just that little thing.
16:07Yeah.
16:08I had to get
16:09my Star Trek reference in.
16:11You can't really
16:11get more direct
16:12than that, can you?
16:14Whoa.
16:15Can we just
16:15take a moment?
16:16That's a remarkable
16:17example of our
16:19journey into space
16:20being shaped
16:21by art
16:21and storytelling.
16:22It's such a magic,
16:23symbiotic kind of
16:24relationship, isn't it,
16:25between art and reality?
16:26It's very cool.
16:27Jess,
16:28I consider you
16:29and your colleagues
16:30part of the space program
16:31because you play
16:33a role
16:34that is as important
16:36as any engineer,
16:38as any rocket science.
16:40Whew.
16:41Whoa.
16:42Talking to Mike,
16:43it really hits me.
16:46Art doesn't just
16:48imagine space.
16:49Sometimes,
16:50it helps us
16:50actually get there.
16:52A TV show
16:53became a blueprint.
16:55A story
16:56turned into a strategy.
16:59But while 20th century
17:01sci-fi
17:02may have helped
17:02launch us
17:03toward the stars,
17:05the world's oldest
17:05continuous culture
17:07has had a deep
17:08relationship with space
17:09for millennia.
17:12To explore those stories,
17:15art historian
17:15Mary McGillivray
17:16is teaming up
17:17with astrophysicist
17:19and proud Wiradjuri woman
17:20Dr. Kirsten Banks.
17:23So this is an early
17:2418th century
17:25star atlas.
17:27And Orion's belt,
17:29I think,
17:30is one of the most
17:30well-known constellations.
17:32Yes.
17:33In Wiradjuri,
17:33we actually see
17:34the stars of Orion
17:36as the same sort of pattern
17:38representing a human
17:39or a man.
17:40For us, though,
17:41we see it as
17:42the creator spirit
17:43Bayami.
17:44And in one of the stories,
17:46he's running along
17:47and chasing an emu
17:48called Dinawan.
17:49And he trips on a log
17:55and falls flat on his face.
18:01And that is illustrated
18:03in how the stars move.
18:05When Orion sets in the sky
18:07from Australia's perspective,
18:09he sets headfirst.
18:11So Bayami is falling over.
18:14Yeah, headfirst into the ground.
18:16That's fantastic.
18:17Illustrates the story
18:18quite well.
18:20I love it.
18:24In Wiradjuri culture,
18:26the Southern Cross
18:27isn't a cross.
18:28We actually see it as
18:29Yaran,
18:30which is a tree.
18:30But the two stars
18:35next to the cross,
18:36the Southern Pointers,
18:37we call them
18:38Mare Mare,
18:39which represent
18:40two cockatoos.
18:42And what's going on
18:43is that Yaran
18:44is their home.
18:45The tree is their home.
18:47And they're following
18:48their home in the sky.
18:50And again,
18:51it's illustrated
18:52in how the sky moves
18:54because of the rotation
18:54of the earth.
18:56Mare Mare
18:56are always following
18:58their home in the sky.
19:00What's different
19:03about the dark emu
19:04compared to the constellations
19:05we've looked at here
19:06is that the patterns
19:08we look for
19:09with the dark emu
19:10are the negative spaces,
19:11the patches of gas
19:13and dust
19:13that naturally block
19:14the light from
19:15more distant stars
19:16in the Milky Way galaxy.
19:19And I can see it here.
19:21So underneath the Southern Cross,
19:22you see this little patch here?
19:24It's kind of like
19:25the head and the beak
19:26of the emu.
19:27Yeah, yeah.
19:27And then if you continue
19:28along this way
19:29towards the center
19:29of the Milky Way,
19:30that's kind of like
19:31the neck.
19:33And then the
19:34bulge of the Milky Way
19:35is the body.
19:38It's very kind of
19:39long, lean emu.
19:40Oh, it's huge.
19:41It's incredible.
19:44Once you see
19:45this constellation,
19:46you can't unsee it.
19:47It is amazing.
19:49And in Wiradjuri,
19:50we call them Gorgoman.
19:53It's also really useful
19:55in Wiradjuri culture.
19:57Its position in the night sky
19:58indicates when it's the right time
20:00to go looking for inu eggs.
20:01Fantastic.
20:03Our fascination
20:04with the night sky
20:05has inspired
20:06incredible stories
20:08and exploration.
20:10But with the commercialization
20:11of space travel,
20:12how do we protect
20:13these new frontiers?
20:15This year,
20:17even the moon
20:18was listed
20:18as a threatened
20:19cultural heritage site.
20:22Amos?
20:22Hey, I'm Jess.
20:23Nice to meet you.
20:24This is Amos Gebhardt,
20:26an award-winning artist
20:27and cinematographer.
20:29And I've come to visit
20:30an installation
20:31that treats the moon
20:32not as a place to conquer,
20:34but as a collaborator.
20:36And this is Alexis.
20:38These works,
20:40like this award-winning portrait
20:41of Wani writer
20:42Alexis Wright,
20:44were all created
20:44using the moon
20:45as the only light source.
20:48It's not the easiest thing
20:50to work with film,
20:52but it's got this
20:53squisor potential.
20:55It's precious.
20:56Beautiful.
20:58They're not just beautiful,
21:00they're quietly powerful.
21:03There's a deep intimacy to them.
21:06I'm left with this visceral feeling
21:08of stillness.
21:15I don't know,
21:15when I stand in this room,
21:17I mean,
21:18like when we walked in,
21:18I felt like a release.
21:20Yeah.
21:20You know,
21:20like there's just like
21:21relaxation into the space.
21:24Yeah.
21:24Yeah.
21:25There's something about
21:26being under the moonlight together
21:27in the darkness
21:29and the quietness
21:30of the nervous system
21:31and to be there
21:32with the camera
21:33to kind of feel
21:34into what might
21:35be able to be photographed
21:36because you can't see everything.
21:38There are kind of mysteries
21:39that are hovering
21:39on the edges of your vision.
21:42There was an almost
21:43childlike awe
21:44that kept coming out.
21:47This body of work
21:48is called moangada,
21:50a word that I haven't heard before
21:52but won't be forgetting
21:54in a hurry.
21:55Moangada is a Swedish word
21:58that translates literally
21:59to moon road.
22:01It signifies
22:02that extraordinary image
22:03that the moon creates
22:05when it's hanging
22:06over a body of water.
22:07That kind of pathway
22:08towards itself
22:09speaks to this idea
22:11of a pathway
22:12into the unknown.
22:14And the subjects
22:15of Amos's portraits
22:16are all on that pathway.
22:19They're visionaries
22:20imagining liberated,
22:21collective futures.
22:22Why do you think
22:28the moon
22:28is such a potent symbol
22:30for change?
22:33I think one of the things
22:35that really struck me
22:36was this idea
22:37of renewal
22:38where we see
22:39this cholecyst celestial companion
22:42constantly shrinking
22:43and expanding
22:44and reminding us
22:45of change.
22:47How do you feel
22:47about human expansion
22:48into space?
22:49It strikes me
22:51as a pathology actually.
22:54In Aileen Morton Robinson's
22:56interview actually
22:57her grandparents
22:58raised her
22:58in Kwondamooka country
22:59and she came home
23:00one day
23:01as a little kid
23:02when a man
23:02landed on the moon
23:03and she was very excited
23:04to her grandfather
23:04and he was just
23:07devastated
23:07because he knew
23:09what it meant.
23:10He knew
23:11that the implications
23:12of conquest
23:12to expand
23:13into space
23:14in that way
23:14and the arrogance
23:15and the audacity
23:16yeah
23:17I sit on that fence
23:18I think.
23:19I think if you
23:20can't experience
23:21awe
23:22from the place
23:23that we're
23:23born into
23:24and onto
23:25and balanced
23:25with the earth
23:26then I think
23:28there's something
23:29out of whack.
23:34Amos's words
23:35are so valid
23:36a reminder
23:39that our dreams
23:40of space travel
23:41are often
23:41intertwined
23:42with the language
23:42of colonialism
23:43and empire
23:45those connections
23:52can be hard
23:53to shake
23:54but what if
23:56we had a stronger
23:57relationship
23:57with the stars
23:58from here
23:59on earth
23:59how would that
24:01change the way
24:02we think
24:02about space
24:03hi
24:10hi Jeff
24:11Shireen
24:11nice to meet you
24:12nice to meet you
24:13too
24:13great
24:15is it always
24:15this tidy
24:16or is it
24:16well I mean
24:17it's pretty messy
24:17over there
24:18but come on
24:19it's beautiful
24:19in here
24:20it feels like
24:20a display home
24:21oh no
24:21Shireen Tawil
24:29is an artist
24:30whose connection
24:31to the stars
24:32has taken her
24:33on an extraordinary
24:34journey
24:34and has forged
24:36a link between
24:37her Lebanese
24:37Australian heritage
24:38and a science fiction
24:40vision of the future
24:41so in the studio
24:43I've been
24:44investigating
24:45celestial navigation
24:47technologies
24:47and really
24:49it comes back
24:49to the core
24:50materiality
24:51of copper
24:51and its connection
24:52into science
24:53and astronomy
24:54and practice
24:55of time
24:56and its cultural
24:57connections
24:58the navigation
24:59devices I've been
25:01delving into
25:02are from the
25:02Arabic sciences
25:03and they're made
25:04also from precious
25:05metals like copper
25:06and brass and silver
25:07Shireen handcrafted
25:10these three devices
25:11used for navigating
25:12by the stars
25:13a quadrant
25:14an astrolabe
25:15and a compass
25:16my tools
25:18are literally
25:19the same
25:20as the astronomer's
25:21tools you would
25:22have found
25:22at an observatory
25:23up until
25:24like the last century
25:26yeah
25:27and so this is
25:28a reet
25:29which is the front
25:30face of an astrolabe
25:31but what's so
25:32beautiful about
25:33an astrolabe
25:34is like
25:34you're holding
25:35the universe
25:36in the palm
25:37of your hands
25:38and so
25:39within a device
25:40of an astrolabe
25:41which is kind of
25:42like a computer
25:42each point
25:44you would find
25:45you would find
25:45on the device
25:46is actually
25:47pointing to a
25:47specific star
25:48yeah
25:49yeah
25:51there's something
25:53so beautiful
25:53about how tactile
25:55and elemental
25:56it is
25:57and you're also
25:57exploring ideas
25:58of like
25:59yeah
25:59things that are
26:00so far beyond
26:01absolutely
26:02and this materiality
26:03has had such
26:04a play
26:04in astronomy
26:05last year
26:11Shireen went
26:12on a pilgrimage
26:13a Hajj
26:14following a line
26:15towards Mecca
26:16across Australia
26:17and New Zealand
26:18for over
26:195,000 nautical miles
26:21and she used
26:22those handmade
26:23instruments
26:24and ancient
26:25navigation techniques
26:26to plot a course
26:27using the stars
26:28in the night sky
26:29it was such
26:32an extraordinary
26:32experience
26:33constantly being
26:36connected to the
26:36night sky
26:37and you're
26:38literally
26:39like eyeballing
26:40the star
26:41you're relating to
26:42it must be
26:44an incredible
26:44feeling to be
26:45so aware
26:46of your
26:47global location
26:48in such a
26:49tactile way
26:49like you're
26:50so connected
26:50to the whole
26:51of earth
26:51at any time
26:53Shireen's journey
26:55was part of
26:56an artwork
26:57called
26:57Pilgrimage
26:58of a Hajjanaut
26:59taking age old
27:00practices of faith
27:01and migration
27:02and imagining
27:03what they would
27:04look like
27:04on a journey
27:05into space
27:06within like
27:11the Arab region
27:12for millennia
27:13we've been
27:13extraordinary
27:14travellers
27:15we know
27:17the iconic
27:17pilgrim
27:18for Hajj
27:18wears like
27:19the white garments
27:20I was wanting
27:22to fold in
27:23the space garments
27:24but also it
27:25like unzips
27:25and becomes
27:26a sacred space
27:27for prayer
27:28did you get any
27:33profound insights
27:35from your
27:35process
27:36it's definitely
27:38an experience
27:39I'm still reflecting
27:40on myself
27:41being Lebanese
27:43Australian
27:43when my parents
27:45migrated here
27:46and having grown up
27:47here we've always
27:48had to think
27:48of the future
27:49and work towards
27:50that sense
27:51of kind of
27:52survival
27:53and establishing
27:54a sense of place
27:55and belonging
27:56so it's been really
27:57beautiful to think
27:59about future
27:59practices
28:00that are also
28:01connected to
28:02off-earth
28:03experiences
28:03of the sacred
28:04if we are to
28:07journey out
28:07into space
28:08as a species
28:09how do we
28:10not mess it up
28:12there needs
28:14to be far more
28:15diverse voices
28:16in the activity
28:17of space
28:18because we're all
28:19connected to the
28:19night sky
28:20and we all
28:21come from paths
28:22that have
28:22involved
28:23really beautiful
28:24dialogues
28:25and contributions
28:26to our
28:27understanding
28:28of astronomy
28:28it's incredible
28:31how Shireen's
28:32deep research
28:33into the ancient
28:34past
28:34brings us
28:35to the moment
28:36we're in right
28:37now
28:37standing on the
28:39threshold
28:39of the universe
28:40why is it
28:44important for us
28:45to go into
28:46space with a
28:47collective approach
28:48as opposed to
28:49a competitive one
28:50space is hard
28:51really hard
28:53quote of the day
28:54everything in space
28:55wants to kill you
28:55from the vacuum
28:56to radiation
28:58is extremely dangerous
28:59and that requires
29:00innovation
29:01and diversity
29:03is the fuel
29:05for innovation
29:06the more diverse
29:07a group is
29:08the more likely
29:08it is to be creative
29:10and come up with
29:10solutions that
29:11we never thought
29:12of before
29:13and that's why
29:14diversity isn't
29:15just the right
29:15thing to do
29:16it's mission
29:17critical
29:18to achieve
29:19the dreams
29:20that we have
29:21in space
29:21I set out
29:23on this journey
29:23to see if there
29:24was a way
29:25we could explore
29:25space without
29:26messing it up
29:27and like everything
29:28we humans do
29:29it's complicated
29:30with no easy
29:31answers
29:32but I do think
29:34art offers a way
29:36to keep our eyes
29:37open and steer us
29:38in the right direction
29:39and if our vision
29:41of the future
29:41can make room
29:42for more voices
29:43then our next
29:45giant leap
29:46into the unknown
29:47could land us
29:48somewhere
29:48truly incredible
29:49and we'll see you in the right
29:55next
29:56and we'll see you in the right
29:57next
29:57next
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