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Judy Craymer, 'Mamma Mia!' Creator, Talks Working With Meryl Streep and Cher | THR News
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Musical producer Judy Craymer dishes on all things 'Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again' as she talks casting decisions, Cher, costume design and more.
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I never did ask you guys, what happened when you met my mother?
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Mamma Mia! may now be a global musical sensation, but the story of an idyllic
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Greek island, three potential fathers, a pair of overalls and a soundtrack
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consisting of songs by pop group ABBA was once just an idea in producer Judy
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Kramer's mind. Kramer was inspired by the theatrical potential of ABBA's
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emotional ballad, The Winner Takes It All, and decided to put her production
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skills to use to create a story around some of the Swedish band's greatest hits.
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It was nearly 20 years ago when Mamma Mia! hit the stage for the first time
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on London's West End in 1999. Since then, Mamma Mia! has established itself
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as the eighth longest-running show in West End history, grossing over $2 billion
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throughout its run. Now, the beloved musical has spawned a sequel film with a cast
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of new characters, including Lily James, as a 20-something version of Meryl Streep's
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Donna. Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again, which dances into theaters July 20th,
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explores the rich backstory that originated in Donna Sheridan's diary from the first film.
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The Hollywood Reporter's Sydney Onman caught up with Kramer to discuss the sequel,
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working with Meryl Streep and Cher, and making overalls great again.
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Spoiler alert ahead for Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again.
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When speaking of staying true to Donna's backstory, which we learned from her diary
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in the first film, Kramer explains just how imperative that was.
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It was incredibly important to quite literally mime the origins of the story, she says.
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We have something that I like to call the Mamma Mia! factor, and I think the goal was to
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somehow find that while exploring the backstory and going into the present day, while also
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giving serious nods to the last film. The location, the island, the sense of place, the sense that
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you want to join old friends and be back there — it was all important.
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And when it comes to the decision to kill off Donna, played of course by the legendary Meryl Streep,
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Kramer assures us that the Oscar-winning actress was always a part of that conversation.
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Says Kramer,
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She was so glorious in the first movie and has so much affection for Mamma Mia!
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So she was always a part of a conversation for another film.
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I think for her, it was a matter of what and how, and we also did chat occasionally about that.
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It was a matter of the right script. Also, Meryl likes to conquer new things, and she had played
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Donna Sheridan and been singing nine or so ABBA songs in the first movie.
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I think she felt that she liked the idea of leaving this to the younger ones and she wanted to be involved,
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but she wasn't going to take on such a big role. From one iconic performer to another,
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Kramer also weighs in on the casting of another Oscar-winner, Cher, in the role of Ruby Sheridan,
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Donna's mother.
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That was always kind of on the big dream list when we started working on this one at Mitz Kramer.
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There was really only one choice, which was Cher, and she said yes.
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And I know she's a musician, so she loves ABBA, and I knew she'd love the stage show.
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I have to say, though, once again, she isn't just a great voice, but a great actress and a great comedian.
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She was quite forensic in her work and her thought process.
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Of course, a big part of the Mamma Mia! films are the costumes, and the sequel does not disappoint
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with flashbacks to the 70s where we see Donna and the Dynamos as their younger selves.
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Kramer quips that she has hopes that overalls will become fashionable.
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I think what Lily James is wearing and what they're all wearing when they go back to the 70s
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is very kind of clever, she says. It's not clichéd. It's very much what any 20-something would want to be wearing,
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just as any 20-something would want to be on that holiday romance. Well, I hope. I would.
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And finally, when asked by Oddman what she loves most about seeing Mamma Mia! on the screen,
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as opposed to the stage, Kramer has this to say.
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It celebrates women, but it celebrates friendship and men, too. You feel, with all those guys coming back,
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Pierce and Stalin and Colin, that they really are friends. The story that we left off in the first
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movie was about Sophie discovering her three possible fathers, and now I think you really feel
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they have a family unit. So, it's like saying, there's all kinds of families. It doesn't matter,
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you can be a little unconventional, but family and friends are important.
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To read Sidney Oltman's full interview with Judy Kramer about Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again,
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head to THR.com and tell us, are you planning to have a sing-along in the theaters this weekend?
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Let us know in the comments. For The Hollywood Reporter News, I'm Lyndsey Rodrigues.
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