मुंबई, महाराष्ट्र: एक्टर गुलशन देवैया ने अपनी नई वेब सीरीज 'द परफेक्ट फैमिली' के बारे में IANS के साथ खास बातचीत की। उन्होंने बताया कि इस शो पर काम करते हुए उन्हें काफी मजा आया और उनका अपने को-आर्टिस्ट के साथ काम करने का एक्सपीरियंस भी बहुत अच्छा रहा। उन्होंने ये भी कहा कि शो में काम कर रहीं एक्ट्रेस गिरिजा ओक के साथ उनका वर्क एक्सपीरियंस भी बेहद खास रहा। बता दें, गिरिजा ओक को लोग आजकल 'नेशनल क्रश' भी कहते हैं। इसके अलावा गुलशन ने अपने एक्टिंग करियर में आने वाले संघर्षों से लेकर फिल्मी दुनिया में अपनी पहचान बनाने तक के सफर के बारे में खुलकर चर्चा की। उन्होंने नेपोटिज़्म पर भी अपनी राय रखी। गुलशन ने ये भी बताया कि बचपन से ही मनोज बाजपेयी उनके फेवरेट एक्टर रहे हैं और वे उन्हें अपना आइडल मानते हैं। इसके अलावा, उन्होंने हाल ही में दिवंगत हुए सुपरस्टार धर्मेंद्र के डिमाइज को लेकर मीडिया कवरेज पर भी बात की। उन्होंने कहा कि कई बार इस तरह की कवरेज में संवेदनशीलता की कमी होती है और ऐसे मुश्किल समय में उनकी फैमिली के लिए रिस्पेक्ट और सहानुभूति दिखाना बेहद जरूरी है।
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00:00Gulchand, firstly, welcome to INS.
00:02So firstly, tell us how, I mean, since Perfect Family is now airing,
00:09how excited are you for the reviews?
00:11Have you got any reviews as such abhi tak?
00:13I have not seen anything. I have been sick since yesterday.
00:15I have not seen anything.
00:16So I think I have to do interviews today all day.
00:21I missed hanging out with the other people, with all my colleagues
00:24and having some fun time doing interviews with them and promoting the show.
00:28So I am trying to catch up right now and somehow find some way
00:32to sort of fulfill my obligations and my duties.
00:35I am excited. I had a great deal of fun, you know, being part of the show.
00:41A great cast.
00:43I think I want to get a little better and then probably I will start paying attention to the reviews.
00:48Usually I let it be, like the first few to three days, sometimes a week also,
00:53I don't really, you know, read any reviews or anything.
00:56I just, and then slowly, slowly, I think people will start messaging, people who have seen the show,
01:02they will say their own words, there will be some tweets or like, you know, some posts on Instagrams.
01:08So, they will not be able to save them, they will not be able to see them.
01:12So, I haven't started paying attention yet.
01:15But I am very excited.
01:16I think it's a very well written show, I had a great time working with Sachin.
01:20He had such a wonderful vision for the show and a stellar cast and the kids also, they were like terrific to work with.
01:29So, when we did so much fun, I think Palak also, like the writing was quite, it's very relevant and very relatable to all of us actually.
01:39Right.
01:40So, and it's been presented in a way where it's not like really like force fed or anything like that.
01:45It's sort of disguised as a comedy.
01:49Right.
01:50Like all our lives are, like you know.
01:52In real life.
01:53Yeah.
01:54Yeah.
01:55So, you know, when you talk about, as you rightly said, it is a reflection of your real life family.
02:00Right.
02:01All our lives.
02:02Right.
02:03So, firstly, how did you come on board for this show and also what made you say yes to the character?
02:08Because, as compared to other characters that you have portrayed till yet, right?
02:13Yeah.
02:14This is a very slice of life kind of, it is very relatable and very, you know, like you find such characters in every, such situation in every family.
02:22Yeah.
02:23So, how did you come on board and what made you say yes?
02:24Yeah.
02:25Compared to Atmaram, it's a slice of life character.
02:28Yeah.
02:29I liked it.
02:30I liked the idea.
02:31I met Sachin.
02:32I think Mukesh called me and he said, was it Mukesh?
02:37Was it Mukesh?
02:38I think it was Mukesh.
02:39Or somebody from his office.
02:41When they say Mukesh, it's Mr Mukesh Chhabra.
02:44Yeah.
02:45So, somebody called me and said, like, they have organized a meeting and Sachin Pathak wants to meet you.
02:51And I was a bit familiar with Sachin's work.
02:54I have seen his earlier work and I really liked it.
02:57So, I had a meeting with him and we discussed it and it just seemed like a good idea.
03:01You know, the character, the cast, I mean, the sense, the plot.
03:06You know, the subjects that we were exploring.
03:09I think it just made perfect sense that we sort of present something like this in a very relatable, you know, manner to people as a slice of life sort of a thing.
03:20So, I really liked the idea.
03:22And I am also a sucker for like, you know, versatility in my career.
03:26So, I had just finished shooting for Ulaj.
03:29So, something like this came.
03:30So, I was like, ah, this is a nice contrast to that.
03:33That's right.
03:34Yeah.
03:35Also talking about the concept of the show, the theme, the storyline talks about mental health stigma in every family.
03:42Right?
03:43So, what kind of conversations do you think that this show will kind of spark and what kind of conversations are you expecting that it should cater to?
03:50I don't know actually.
03:51Like, I don't know if I want to say that this should spark conversation or something like that.
03:56If it doesn't spark conversation also, because having conversations also requires a great deal of courage sometimes for us to admit that we are vulnerable or we feeling pain or we feeling weak.
04:08Particularly for men, you know, it's like when there is a certain generation of men like my dad's generation.
04:13Like, they find it really hard to also admit that they, you know, that they can't do certain things, you know.
04:21So, I don't know if it, more than sparking conversation, I think if we are able to introspect and understand ourselves better and help and deal with our emotions, our situations.
04:36You know, we all have different situations and sometimes we feel that our situation is worse than everybody else's where most likely it's not.
04:43Somebody else is going through a harder time.
04:45But that doesn't mean that you are having it easy.
04:48You have to find perspectives actually. There is no one perspective that works for everybody.
04:53You have to find a perspective that works for you.
04:56Okay.
04:57So, that requires some push and pull, some trial and error and some introspection.
05:04So, sometimes maybe some people can openly talk about it or seek help.
05:09Maybe it's not so easy for some people, but they can, as long as you realize that, yeah, there is something that you need to do and not brush it under the carpet,
05:17then that's probably a good start.
05:19So, if it doesn't start conversations, at least if you are able to have a chat with yourself and introspect, then that's a good start.
05:27Now, one show like this can't completely change everybody's life, right?
05:31We're not, that's not practical at all.
05:33But if it's able to sort of point you in a direction or like, if it makes you realize that, okay, I need to like think about this.
05:42I'm going through something, I feel a certain way, you know, my relationship is bad or I feel down or I don't have energy, whatever it is.
05:50Like, you know, if you are able to sort of realize that something is wrong, then maybe something can be done to sort of set that right.
05:57I mean, that probably is the ideal situation.
06:02Right.
06:03You know, like you rightly said in your answer that usually with men, right, they still, as of yet, do not know how to kind of open up and accept their emotions.
06:15Also, the kind, the taboo, which we have set set, men don't cry, men don't express, they are strong, they are this, they are that.
06:23That is kind of like a burden for men, I feel personally.
06:26What is your, do you think with times things have changed for men's mental health?
06:30Sure, but it has its place, you know, being strong and being the immovable object does have its merits, right?
06:39But you can't be like that all the time and every man cannot be that person or every person cannot be that kind of a person.
06:47So, you have to find a perspective that really works and that, and that you can be consistent with and that will help you, that will empower you in your life.
06:56Through, to, you know, live your life, through, to reach your goals or have a fulfilling, meaningful life with.
07:04And for some people it is achieving goals, for some people it is having a wonderful family.
07:10It can be different for different people.
07:12Like I was saying that, no, one particular method or perspective is not going to work for everybody.
07:18But we have to go in that, in that journey where we find, you know, something that works for us and we have to personalize it.
07:25So, when we say mental health, it's like that, when I talk about my mental health, my mental health is mine.
07:33It's not about being a man or an actor or Indian or a human.
07:41It's just mine, it's mine, it's very personal and I have to approach it in a very personal way also.
07:46And I have to find ways to sort of overcome certain things in my own way.
07:51It could be a method that other people also use or it may not be also.
07:57So, I think it's important and also, I think the technologically we have really advanced in the last hundred years,
08:08if you just even do like a basic search on the internet and see how advanced we are as compared to say 1925 or say 200 years, 1825, the whole world I am saying.
08:20But I don't think biologically we are that advanced. We still look the same.
08:24And I feel that, this is not my expert opinion, this is just my experience.
08:30I feel that psychologically, mentally and biologically we are not capable to sort of keep up with so many things that have happened.
08:37Like I can remember like when I was a young person, I was in like 10-12 years old, my father never brought his work home.
08:47Like he used to go in the morning and come back in the evening and then there wasn't a file or anything and his boss wasn't calling him home or something like that.
08:56There was a certain period of time that did work.
08:58And the rest of the time you did work in the house or you did something that you had to do or you spent time with the family and all that.
09:05But now if you see it's very common that people bring their work home, you are accessible all the time.
09:10But these also put a lot of pressure on us, which many of us are not able to handle in a very constructive manner over a long period of time.
09:20That's what I mean. That means that biologically we haven't evolved to cope with this kind of stress, constant, consistent stress.
09:28Like pre-historically, like you know, go out hunting and then you hunt, you come back with your bruises and injuries and then you recover.
09:36But now it's nothing. You don't even get like four hours of sleep to recover.
09:40So we have to find ways to sort of cope with that, you know.
09:44So I completely forgot what your question was, but I think I said something that was relevant.
09:52Right. You know, extending to the question of mental health, especially, I mean, every person in every phase has different kind of stress that they deal with on a daily basis.
10:02Right. But when it comes to the field of entertainment, where things are so uncertain, where aaj picture hai, kal nahi hai, parso hooga ke nahi, pata nahi hai.
10:10Nothing is, it's, everybody's clueless. Right.
10:14So in certain, in such situations, how have you dealt with your mental health and how, what, what has kept you grounded, what has kept you going for so many years?
10:30I think I accept the nature of the business, that it is, it's subjective, you know. Anything that's subjective, you can't measure. It's always people's opinion.
10:42If somebody thinks I'm a good actor, it's their opinion. Can they, and it's still a subjective opinion. Somebody, if somebody very experienced, says that I'm a good actor, it's probably carries a bit more weight.
10:54Like if Nasir Dinshaw or Manul Bajpayee, you know, have good things to say about me, which is a very educated opinion, but it's still an opinion.
11:02So I think I accept the nature of the business. And that helps me not take things personally. It's hard. It's not easy. You have to practice it.
11:13And when I say practice, it's like practicing anything. It's like practicing to have better handwriting or like, you know, driving a car.
11:24The more you do it, the better you get it. But initially, you have to really be deliberate. Until you get to a stage where you don't have to think about it, it will automatically happen.
11:35So, it's like that. When you start to feel that your ego is getting hurt or you feel rejected or something, you have to just practice like, don't take it personally, don't take it personally.
11:45And in the beginning, it was pretty much like that. I used to keep telling myself like, you know, just go sit somewhere alone where nobody has to see me.
11:52Even if I'm feeling emotional, if I want to cry or something, I just like have a cry and keep telling myself, don't take it personally. It's okay.
11:59You know, people are just trying to, you know, that doesn't mean that you are not good enough or anything like that.
12:04It's hard. But with practice, it gets better. And I don't think I'm at a stage when such things don't completely affect me.
12:11But then it's definitely a lot better. It takes a lot to sort of get me a little unfazed.
12:17So, now and then, but it's an ongoing process, you know, and the nature of this business is really uncertain.
12:24Sure, I work in the entertainment business, so I have a little bit of expert opinion as to how to deal with the day-to-day functioning of this business and the nature of this business.
12:36But other people who work in other businesses also have to find ways to sort of deal with their stress and disappointments and all of that.
12:43This whole, there's a big deal made of merit. Like, I, it's a fact, like, you know, in the arts, merit cannot exist in the arts.
12:55It's always an opinion. It's always a subjective opinion. And I completely accept that nature of the arts, that it's truth, that it's fundamental truth.
13:05So, what people like me want is consensus. We want more people to like my work or our show. That's what we want.
13:14And to some extent, we do, like, interviews and PR. We dress nicely and then, you know, we smile and post videos on Instagram and, you know, pretend like paparazzi is following us and all of that stuff.
13:30We do, in order to control this narrative, you know. To some extent, you can do it. To some extent, you can't do anything. People will still form their own opinion.
13:39You can't control everybody's mind. But that's the nature of the business. And I accept it wholeheartedly that it's purely subjective.
13:46So, extending to your answer itself, this question in the exam, as you said, as we discussed it, there are very uncertainties in the industry and all of that.
13:55Sometimes movies are there, you're very excited that you're going to do a shoot or cancel. Have you ever faced anything like that?
14:00Yeah, sure, it happens. It's part of life.
14:02So, any particular project that you...
14:04No, I mean, there are lots, like, I mean, what is the point, apart from creating some controversy or like some misdirection, if I take some names, like people will form their own opinion or something.
14:18True.
14:19Nothing happens.
14:20I have no remorse, nothing, no pain, nothing. Everything, I have given them, nothing happens.
14:26Nothing happens. It happens. This hit or hit-flop is a part of our life.
14:30Correct.
14:31And rejection is also part of our life.
14:33Correct.
14:34And then many times, many things don't happen for a variety of reasons. It can be a variety of reasons. There can be one million reasons why certain projects don't happen.
14:42Right. Do you take that in your stride?
14:44You have to. If you have to have a career in this business and you have to also be mentally stable, you have to accept the nature of this business.
14:54You have to do it.
14:55This doesn't mean to put up with injustice. I don't do it.
14:58Like, sometimes it's just like something that I have said, you know, I say in broad spectrum...
15:03No, no, no. You shouldn't put up with injustice. That's not what I am saying. There's nuances to everything.
15:09Yeah. So, yeah, you have to accept the nature of this business.
15:13Also, just as you said, Nasruddin Shah and Manoj Bacha, there will be opinions.
15:18So, for example, I wanted to know that has there been any compliment that you have received for any kind of your work?
15:23These people have been very good.
15:25What was that if you could elaborate?
15:27Also, people send me videos of them, like clips of interviews where they have spoken.
15:32They talk good in front and back.
15:35The first time, I think it was Mr. Nasruddin Shah.
15:38He was doing an interview with Anupama Chopra and she sent me that clip.
15:41Saying that, see, this is what...
15:43And a million other people also sent when that interview released.
15:46He said, how did they tell you about it.
15:49So, does that feel flattering or does that...
15:51No, somebody like him of his stature.
15:53How do you keep yourself grounded after that?
15:55No, just go back a little bit.
15:57Just go back a little bit.
15:58Just enjoy it for what it is.
16:00Manoj Ji also, he is so appreciative.
16:05He doesn't hold back in his appreciation.
16:09And then, it's such a thing, stalwarts like them, people who are high achievers.
16:15And Manoj Bhashbhai is my hero.
16:18Because, as I saw him, there was hope that it can happen in life.
16:22Right.
16:23You don't have to be like a dancing, lip-syncing sort of a type of a hero.
16:28So, you can become a leading man.
16:33I mean, of course, there have been...
16:35There was Nana Patikar, there was Nasruddin Shah.
16:37Many people like Om Ji, even Amol Palekar to some extent.
16:41But, I think at that age where it really mattered to me, it was Manoj Bhashbhai.
16:46I kind of found Manoj Bhashbhai.
16:48He was a great inspiration.
16:49Suddenly, he is that light bulb that I needed in my life.
16:53From Satya, Shul...
16:55Yeah, yeah.
16:56He said that everything can happen.
16:57There is something that can happen.
16:58I mean, he came in 98, right?
17:01He came in 98, 99.
17:03I've been 10 years old.
17:05But, that bulb was lit back.
17:08He was lit back.
17:10He was lit back.
17:11Okay, okay.
17:12Also, you're not talking about...
17:13You've been there in the industry for a pretty long time now.
17:15And you're not just there, you're sustained very well.
17:18And your graph has been more like...
17:20Just like we're going up and up and up.
17:22So, you're going up and up and up and up and up.
17:25Especially, not...
17:26I won't talk about commercial graph.
17:27I would talk about the quality of graph.
17:29The quality of roles that you've done.
17:30Right?
17:31So, I would just want you to know that...
17:34In this industry, there is a lot of debate about outsider, insider, falana and imkan and all of that.
17:39Have you ever faced anything?
17:40And what is your take on all of this?
17:41Because, usually it is said that when you are from a family that...
17:45You know, has been a...
17:47Basically, Bollywood family.
17:49Aapko...
17:50Start up ka easy ho jata hai as compared to an outsider.
17:53What is your take on this?
17:54And have you ever faced something like this?
17:56See, I went to private school.
17:59Right?
18:00So, I have a certain quality of education that I could...
18:03I received.
18:04Right?
18:05Which many people who can't afford to go to school didn't receive.
18:08So, it clearly creates an advantage for me.
18:11That my opportunities in life to get a job, to learn, to be able to read a book.
18:16As opposed to somebody who can't.
18:18See, there are exceptions everywhere.
18:20Like, broad spectrum mein agar liya jaya ka somebody who can read and write clearly has an advantage over somebody who can't.
18:26Right?
18:27Somebody who has...
18:28Who has stronger physically capabilities clearly has an advantage over somebody who does not.
18:34So, that's the same thing.
18:35The advantage that people who grow up in the business, they have is that they understand the business.
18:40Much better than people who start from scratch.
18:43There is that advantage.
18:45Ab isko leke maathar pitke matlab rohne wali kya baata is this mein?
18:49We all have...
18:50We all have...
18:51Hum log aapna advantage bool jate hain.
18:52Like, see...
18:54Like, my mum and dad, my mum...
18:56I've had...
18:57My mum's been sick since 1984.
18:59And progressively getting worse.
19:01When I wanted to leave in 2008, not one day.
19:04She was like in a very bad shape.
19:05She's always been in poor health.
19:07And I'm the only child.
19:08Ek baar bhi mammi ne na papa ne bula hai ki mad jau.
19:12Kya hoga?
19:14Yehihi raho ga to humara saara ba...
19:16Kuch nahi.
19:17Jau.
19:18Or unkii tabbiat bighadati rahe yor.
19:21Ab to papa ki tabbiat bhi kapi kapi down chal raha hai.
19:26But kabhi unho ne roka nahi ki mat jau humare saath raha.
19:29Kabhi nhi ka.
19:30That's my privilege.
19:31Right?
19:32Many other people don't have that privilege.
19:35Unke ophor were responsibly rated.
19:37Yeh ki ghar chalana badega.
19:38Maabaap ka khayal rakhna badega.
19:40Yeh hai.
19:41People even with like many siblings also.
19:44They still have those pressures.
19:45Mujh pe boh pressure nahi tha.
19:47So everybody has their advantages.
19:49We clearly, conveniently forget our advantage and our privilege.
19:53That we have over millions of people behind us who are less privileged.
19:58And we start crying about people who are more privileged than us.
20:01It's rubbish.
20:03I'm sick and tired of it.
20:05Stop complaining.
20:06I'm not saying put up with injustice.
20:08But stop complaining about this kind of trivial nonsense.
20:12And put in the work.
20:14Accept the nature of the business.
20:17Bohat hard work ke baad bhi ganta kuch nahi mil sakta hai.
20:20That is the nature of the business.
20:22Are you prepared for it?
20:23Come.
20:24Otherwise, get lost.
20:26Do something else.
20:27And this is harnessed.
20:29For somebody else's, yeh edo angst raha hai na ki hai.
20:33Everybody feels that they deserve better.
20:35Who the hell are you to think that you deserve better?
20:37Who the hell are you?
20:39Keep your head down.
20:40Work.
20:41And hope for the best.
20:42Gratitude.
20:43Do your best.
20:44Yeah.
20:45And have, yeh.
20:46And somebody like me who is a working actor.
20:47I have immense gratitude.
20:48Yeah.
20:49I have, yeh.
20:50Yeah.
20:51I have immense gratitude.
20:52Yeah.
20:53Yeah.
20:54I mean, it's true.
20:55It's true.
20:56It's true.
20:57It's true.
20:58It's true.
20:59It's true.
21:00But I've learned.
21:01There are so many things you can do.
21:03Instead of like whining and cribbing and this nepotism, fapotism, nonsense and all that.
21:08It's rubbish.
21:09It never bothers me and it should never bother anybody else also.
21:12So, if you have to sit down and sit down and sit down and sit down and sit down.
21:16It's not my responsibility for changing the world.
21:19Right.
21:20You know, continuing to the question.
21:22So, as somebody who is coming from a family who does not know the nature of the business.
21:33And I know they have 5 years in this industry.
21:36But they don't do what they have to do.
21:39Because they belong to the certain section of Bollywood.
21:41Right.
21:42So, how difficult or easy is it for people?
21:45It's difficult.
21:46What is the problem with difficulty?
21:48Something that you have to be unique in life is difficult.
21:52It's difficult.
21:53It's easy.
21:54What is the problem with difficulty?
21:56Right.
21:57If you have to stand up with a new party and win an election, you have to do it.
22:02First, no one knows what you have to do.
22:04It's hard.
22:05But then when you achieve it, when you achieve it.
22:08It's not the problem.
22:09But the nature of the business, I told you.
22:12It's like that.
22:13It's cutthroat.
22:14It's not going to do you any favors.
22:16So, if you want to achieve something over here, you have to be able to face these difficulties and overcome these difficulties.
22:22And not let it stop you.
22:24You have to do it.
22:25Remain strong throughout.
22:26That doesn't mean that people shouldn't be nice to each other.
22:29Professionalism can't exist.
22:31Or you should become a Machiavellian lobbyist.
22:35You know what I mean.
22:36You don't have to be a cutthroat, scheming politician in order to sort of get ahead.
22:47You can find your own, you can be a decent professional, hard working professional and still make it really, go really far.
22:56You can do that.
22:57Right.
22:58Right.
22:59But it's hard.
23:00Of course it's hard.
23:01It's not easy.
23:02So, how have you sustained in it?
23:04We talk about you.
23:05What has kept you going throughout this entire journey?
23:08That's it.
23:09Because I told you, I accept the nature of this business.
23:11It is cutthroat.
23:12It will chew me and spit me out.
23:14After doing that, in another five years, maybe nobody will give me work.
23:19It's possible.
23:20Are you ready for that mentally?
23:21I don't know.
23:22Right now if you ask me, no.
23:23But then, should I be?
23:25Will I be?
23:26Maybe I will.
23:27Maybe I will accept it.
23:28We never know.
23:29But at least I know that this can happen.
23:31Possibly.
23:32I am not pretending that this will not happen.
23:34There are so many people who, when I saw 10 years ago,
23:38all the actors that I saw in my childhood,
23:42sometimes I am like, I wonder, what are you doing?
23:45Will I be doing?
23:46I don't know.
23:47But they don't see how many people are doing.
23:50So, this can happen to me also.
23:53And now with the technology and AI and all of those things,
23:56they are already making shows.
23:57So, one hit show where all the actors are made from or simulated,
24:02and one simulated superstar and that's it.
24:05The culture of the social media,
24:09basically now a lot of people have told me that
24:14in case the casting and the auditions also happen on the basis of
24:18how many followers do you have?
24:20And how many audiences attract, grab when it's the release time.
24:24Right?
24:25So, do you think that this is fair for any actor on a whole?
24:29And how do you deal with this?
24:30I don't give a shit.
24:32It is a trend.
24:35Okay.
24:36Is it valid?
24:37Does it have any merit to it?
24:38I don't know.
24:39I am not sure if all that following is translating into subscriptions
24:43or ticket sales.
24:45I am not sure.
24:46But somebody else who knows better than me is taking these decisions.
24:50Again, it's probably a good idea to hire somebody else or something like that.
24:53And some of them are even pretty decent also.
24:56They are pretty good actors also.
24:58I don't want to say anything bad or negative about anybody.
25:02So, everyone will see themselves.
25:04Now, let me open my social media and see how much of my following is.
25:07I don't have 300k.
25:09They will get my work.
25:11Right.
25:12But do you feel the pressure of keeping up with the social media game?
25:14I am not taking that pressure.
25:15They are making reels and this and that.
25:16It's up to me.
25:17Yeah.
25:18It's not up to my management.
25:19It's not up to people also.
25:20My fans.
25:21It's not up to them.
25:22It's up to me.
25:23If they like me.
25:24If they follow me.
25:25If they like my work.
25:26It's because I am the way I am.
25:27Right.
25:28If I suddenly start changing and doing something else.
25:30Then I won't be myself.
25:31Right.
25:32My authentic self.
25:33So, it means that I have the meaning of this.
25:36Right.
25:37Right.
25:38Talking about perfect family.
25:39We saw a interview in the front of Girija Ma'am.
25:42Where she had gone all out in lauding you on how decent and how cautious and conscious you were
25:50while filming a particular scene.
25:52Right.
25:53Yeah.
25:54I am a very decent guy.
25:55So, she had said that if there is something else, it might be very uncomfortable.
25:58Considering it was being shot.
26:01Right.
26:02But with Gulshan, he was such a decent guy.
26:04And I was conscious that he is so good.
26:08So, firstly, tell me how difficult or easy is it?
26:11It's very difficult to do such scenes.
26:14Because there is a line that we always cannot cross.
26:17Right.
26:18Simulating intimacy and violence.
26:22These are very tricky.
26:24Because there is always a line that you cannot cross.
26:26But you have to also create the illusion of it being real.
26:29Right.
26:30So, you have to find ways to do it.
26:32And if I am working with somebody else, they have to trust me and I have to be able to trust them that we will take care of each other.
26:38So, you have to develop that trust.
26:40And when you don't know them that very well, you have to find ways to sort of make them feel comfortable.
26:45Sometimes there are intimacy coordinators.
26:47Like in Ulaj, we had an intimacy coordinator from the UK.
26:49Right.
26:50And that person very stage by stage systematically took us through like, you know, that particular thing and made us feel comfortable.
26:59It's a different thing.
27:00It's a different thing.
27:01It's a different thing.
27:02It's a different thing.
27:03It's a different thing.
27:04It's a different thing.
27:05It's a different thing.
27:06But sometimes you have to do it.
27:08I think I am a bit more experienced.
27:10I think Hate Story was the time when I was shooting in 2012.
27:14There was no intimacy coordinator.
27:16There was nothing.
27:17We had to figure it out.
27:19And I was lucky that I was working with Pauli who was such a good sport and she made me feel very comfortable.
27:25And that's when I was like, you have to figure this out.
27:28And before I went to shoot there, I had to talk about what can we do two days.
27:33How do we prepare?
27:34There are many things that you have to do.
27:37Personally also.
27:38And also from my side, I always want that other person to be comfortable.
27:42And I extend the same courtesy when I am too male.
27:47It doesn't matter what sex they are.
27:50When I am doing action also.
27:51Because I don't want to hurt that other person.
27:53So I am like, is this comfortable?
27:55This will happen.
27:56This will happen.
27:57This will happen.
27:58And I don't want to get hurt either.
28:00So you have to be careful and you have to be a thorough professional.
28:03And you have to make that other person or other people feel that they can trust you.
28:08And they also should sort of win your trust over.
28:14So that's what I was doing.
28:15That's all.
28:16Right, right.
28:17And how was the shooting with the national crush currently?
28:19That's all.
28:20That's all.
28:21We knew before that.
28:22Fantastic.
28:23I don't know why it took so long for our career paths to sort of cross.
28:29But I am very glad it did.
28:31And I had a wonderful time doing scenes with her.
28:35And getting to know her also as a person.
28:38And meeting her son, her family.
28:40And hanging out with her.
28:42And it was really, really nice.
28:44She is a friend.
28:45So I have such warm feelings for her.
28:48I really like chilling with her.
28:50And you know, talking with people.
28:52It was good.
28:53I was talking about your Tamil debut with R Madhuban also.
28:57Right?
28:58If I am not wrong.
28:59Please shed some light on that.
29:00How is the experience and what are you looking up to?
29:02I mean, you are already there down south with Kandara and all.
29:06But with Tamil, how is the experience?
29:09And also continuing with the same question.
29:11What stark difference do you find in Bollywood and south while working?
29:15We will start with that question.
29:18Some technical, like the way they refer to certain things is a little different.
29:23But rather techniques are the same.
29:25The cameras are the same.
29:27Some technical terms.
29:29The shift timings.
29:30There are different unions.
29:31There are different rules.
29:32So in Karnataka, there are some shift timings.
29:35There are different rules here.
29:37And in Chennai, it is similar.
29:40I think some other place I heard that in Kerala,
29:46it is counted that when you leave home,
29:48the shift starts.
29:49I don't know.
29:50I have never worked in the Malayalam industry yet.
29:53So I really had a great time.
29:56It was not very easy.
29:58I do speak the language.
29:59Because I went to Bangalore.
30:01I am quite comfortable with most of the southern languages.
30:04Maybe Malayalam being my weakest.
30:07Telugu, not so good.
30:08But I can manage.
30:09But Tamil, I grew up speaking it with my friends and their family.
30:14So I was a bit well-versed with that.
30:16But speaking conversational Tamil and Kamchalau Tamil
30:20and then articulating dialogues is a thing.
30:22But they gave me a very good trainer, Smriti.
30:25She is a dubbing artist.
30:26She spent a lot of time with me doing online classes.
30:29And she used to be on set every time.
30:31And because she was a dubbing artist, she was a voice actor.
30:34So she was able to sort of guide me properly.
30:38And her being there on set was also like really...
30:41And after the first two days, I think the director, Charu Shekhar,
30:44started changing my dialogues.
30:46Like, you are always saying, right?
30:49I was like, don't do that.
30:51But yeah, I had to do a little bit of work.
30:53It was not finished.
30:54It was only two days.
30:56Yeah.
30:57Right, right.
30:58And you are talking about your other South venture that has boomed.
31:02Yeah, Kantara.
31:03Firstly, Ya Kantara.
31:04I wanted to know how are you feeling with such a stupendous, you know,
31:09Jho Se Mila Hai reviews.
31:11Commercially also and critically also.
31:13Yeah.
31:14Even your character,
31:15your character is the most hated but loved character.
31:19Yeah.
31:20So how does it feel?
31:21I am very surprised that a lot of people really,
31:23you know,
31:24they meet me with such warmth and
31:26that I have been working for nearly 15 years now.
31:30But I think for KFI,
31:33the Karana Film Industry,
31:34the Karana audience,
31:35they have never seen me.
31:36So I think it's just like a little thing.
31:39So before,
31:41there was no dog in our locality,
31:43so now I am here to know.
31:46When I go to a medical store,
31:48I go to a bakery,
31:49I go to a supermarket,
31:50I go to a hospital,
31:51I go to a hospital,
31:52I cut a lot of hospitals.
31:54So there is a lot of advantage
31:57because people like now recognize you,
32:00you want to take pictures with you,
32:01you want to talk to you and all that.
32:02So,
32:03and they somehow like,
32:05you know,
32:06I don't feel that I have done anything really different or anything,
32:08but they feel that there is something new to me
32:10that I have come to take that project.
32:12So I think that's why
32:14Rishabh had hired me also,
32:16that I will,
32:17creatively,
32:18I will bring something to it,
32:19which will be a little different.
32:21So,
32:22I am happy with it.
32:23I am,
32:24I am,
32:25I have already forgotten about it.
32:26I am not trying to take it very seriously.
32:28As I told you na,
32:29these things to,
32:30hit-flop to,
32:31aapne life mein chalta hai rehta hai.
32:32Abhi,
32:33abhi,
32:34abhi 851 karne ke baad,
32:35aap sochne laga ho ga ki,
32:36yeh hee sab kuch hami,
32:37muturram khan hai,
32:38phir ho gaya,
32:39kaam tamam.
32:40I think I will be able to survive.
32:41So,
32:42I am,
32:43moved on.
32:44I am happy that this happened.
32:45I am happy that my first step,
32:46ah,
32:47into the karna film industry,
32:48was with,
32:49was with such a special film.
32:50I am very grateful to Rishabh,
32:52and Hombali,
32:53and everybody involved.
32:54They were so,
32:55they were so nice.
32:56They served it on a platter to me.
32:58So,
32:59I couldn't have,
33:00wished for anything better.
33:01Right.
33:02Aapke answer mein na,
33:03abhi aapne bola ki,
33:04Kerala industry mein kaise,
33:05probably,
33:06they start the shift from the time you leave home,
33:07right?
33:08Hei work hour debate pe,
33:09bahut charcha chalri hai filhal ki,
33:11Bollywood me 8 hour shift ho na chai,
33:1210 hour shift ho na chai.
33:13You want my opinion?
33:14Yes.
33:15Everybody should work for 8 hours.
33:16Everybody.
33:17Everybody.
33:18Technicians,
33:19everybody.
33:20And jaha pe,
33:21for example,
33:22certain departments who need to work longer,
33:24should have shifts.
33:25Which means that you should have like,
33:27jase,
33:28hospitals mein na,
33:301st shift,
33:312nd shift,
33:323rd shift.
33:33People who do the same job,
33:34like attenders ho na,
33:35nurses ho na,
33:36they don't work through the day.
33:37They'll have shifts.
33:38So,
33:39for example,
33:40set department,
33:41art direction,
33:42and production design.
33:43Sometimes you have to work through the night
33:45because you have to erect the set in the morning.
33:47So, you should have like,
33:482 or 3 sets of people
33:50to work through 24 hours,
33:51who will do 8 hour shifts.
33:53So,
33:54this should be for,
33:55not just actors.
33:56Many actors like,
33:57I'll tell you.
33:58If,
33:59I'm a little grumpy,
34:00no, no, no,
34:01I'll work through 8 hours,
34:02a lot of people will agree.
34:03They will write in my contract.
34:05But,
34:06I feel that 8 hours is,
34:08is something that is really,
34:10something that everybody should be given that.
34:12Everybody.
34:13Because,
34:14you'll have time,
34:15you'll say,
34:16Mumbai,
34:17travel me,
34:18it's not time,
34:19where do you have the time to spend with your family,
34:21or watch something interesting,
34:23or have a meet,
34:24dinner together,
34:25or just have your own chill time to do like,
34:27nothing.
34:28That's what you need.
34:29So,
34:30we'll just do the work.
34:31So,
34:32I think,
34:33and this is particularly also for people who work on a daily wage.
34:37There are many of them,
34:38like,
34:39more than,
34:4060-70% of a film set works on daily wage.
34:43So,
34:44they charge per day.
34:45So,
34:46for them,
34:47they're working on one set,
34:49they're working on another set,
34:50then you're just like going from one set to another.
34:52I've seen action teams,
34:54do night shifts,
34:55and then do a day shift in the morning.
34:57The same team.
34:58And,
34:59that's very critical.
35:00I'm like,
35:01action team,
35:02like,
35:03you're also responsible for safety protocols.
35:04Like,
35:05you have not slept through the night.
35:06I mean,
35:0712 hours,
35:08night shift,
35:09you're going to do the day shift,
35:10you're going to do this.
35:11This is really terrible.
35:12I think,
35:13everybody should work for eight hours,
35:15so that they have time,
35:16the rest of the time,
35:17for themselves,
35:18and their families.
35:19This year has been very tough for Bollywood,
35:21with Dharmendra sirs passing away.
35:23What do you think,
35:24the media culture,
35:25overall,
35:26just covered it.
35:27What is your take on that?
35:31I don't know,
35:32I don't like it.
35:33I think,
35:34everybody should just like,
35:35chill out,
35:36chill out a little bit.
35:37And,
35:38Instagram is a real culture,
35:39everything doesn't have to be big news,
35:41everything doesn't have to be covered,
35:43everything doesn't have to be,
35:45everything doesn't have to be,
35:46we were the first to cover,
35:50I think,
35:51the quality of coverage,
35:52lose,
35:53and insensitivity,
35:55I think.
35:56See,
35:57for public figures,
35:58it's going to be there.
35:59Like,
36:00people will sort of,
36:01be interested,
36:02your privacy will,
36:04it's not the same.
36:06Like,
36:07but,
36:08somewhere you have to draw the line,
36:09and have a,
36:10slightly humanitarian approach towards such things.
36:13Yeah,
36:14I think that's pretty much it.
36:15Thank you so much,
36:16for your time.
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