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In her first podcast appearance ever, Kylie joins Khloé, with martinis in hand, for some confessions and unapologetic sister talk. They laugh-cry over growing up together, compare parenting styles, and gush over happy memories shared. Kylie opens up about “Pop Star Kylie", acting nerves, and the boundaries that protect her peace. And it wouldn't be a sister chat with at least one prank on the family.
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00:00:00Kylie, you're my bitch.
00:00:02I don't know if I've ever been on a podcast before.
00:00:06Kylie and I are getting so f***ed up today.
00:00:10What will you please?
00:00:12What is something that you think about all the time?
00:00:15Aliens, the first scary movie I've ever seen with signs.
00:00:19What the f*** is signs?
00:00:20When you're spiraling, who do you text first?
00:00:22When do you mute our family group chat?
00:00:25You were always muted.
00:00:27What?
00:00:28Truth or dare?
00:00:29Okay.
00:00:30Will you pick?
00:00:31Oh.
00:00:32Are you okay?
00:00:33Are you okay?
00:00:34I see your eyes watering.
00:00:35No, mine are glossy from alcohol.
00:00:37Yours are glossy from tears.
00:00:39There's a difference.
00:00:40What was our bonding experience like being pregnant?
00:00:44I don't think we ever expected to be pregnant at the same time.
00:00:47Okay, let's call mom.
00:00:48Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram?
00:00:50Bang, bang, kiss, kiss.
00:00:52What?
00:00:53Show me.
00:00:53Tell me right now and get it down.
00:00:55What are some of your superstitious rituals you do?
00:00:59Sorry, I'm applying my lip liner.
00:01:01Cheers to us.
00:01:02Cheers.
00:01:03And welcome and thank you for being on Chloe and Wonderland.
00:01:06I love you.
00:01:08I love you.
00:01:08I'm so scared to see this episode.
00:01:10I'm so scared to see this episode.
00:01:10You are getting nasty right now.
00:01:17Better calm down.
00:01:26Kylie.
00:01:27Hi.
00:01:27Welcome to Wonderland.
00:01:30I'm so happy to be here.
00:01:31No, I'm so happy that you're here.
00:01:32I'm so happy.
00:01:33So I don't know if people know and not like this isn't like a diss.
00:01:37No, it's fine.
00:01:37But this has been like the fourth attempt to get Kylie Jenner on the pod and it, but
00:01:44timing is everything.
00:01:45Timing is everything.
00:01:46Because you're here now.
00:01:47We're present.
00:01:48And Kylie and I are getting so f***ed up today.
00:01:51Yeah.
00:01:52I don't know if we would have done that the other times.
00:01:54Yeah, you're right.
00:01:54We wouldn't have.
00:01:55Timing is everything.
00:01:56But also, can I cap the floor?
00:01:58You can say everything.
00:01:59Okay.
00:02:01So when you first were doing your podcast, we had a date.
00:02:04You didn't know if it would be successful.
00:02:04That's not true.
00:02:05I'm just kidding.
00:02:06We had a date to do it, but I felt like I felt strongly that you needed to have non-family
00:02:15members on first to solidify your place in the podcast world.
00:02:20So I felt like you need to do you and then I'll come on.
00:02:23F*** you hoes half the time.
00:02:25Yeah.
00:02:25Yeah.
00:02:26Yeah.
00:02:26Right.
00:02:27And also what I do want to say to all the viewers and listeners is that-
00:02:32I need to get something off my chest.
00:02:33Oh my God.
00:02:34I'm like wasted.
00:02:36Breaking news.
00:02:37Me too.
00:02:38It's hitting me.
00:02:39So Kylie and I, before we started recording, we shared a shot together.
00:02:43Like what the f*** is going to happen this whole time, okay?
00:02:46But Kylie and I don't really drink that much anymore and half a shot of vodka and half
00:02:53a martini really f***s us up.
00:02:56Mm-hmm.
00:02:57Oh, yeah.
00:02:58It's also like 2 p.m.
00:02:58When the olives slap you in the face, you know it's a big deal.
00:03:03I'm like so like, what's happening?
00:03:05But what I did want to say is that, so Kylie and I shot a YouTube video together.
00:03:10However, everyone has seen it because it's like the most viral sensation.
00:03:14It's definitely the best, most watched video on YouTube.
00:03:17But we did that ages ago.
00:03:19Yeah.
00:03:19So in honor of that video, we did a YouTube video for your YouTube channel where Kylie
00:03:26and I were so drunk.
00:03:27I literally blacked out in the garage here, which is crazy.
00:03:31And Kylie's security to take me home when I had to f***ing hold it together for security.
00:03:36I felt like I was like, I was like, hello, sir.
00:03:38Yeah.
00:03:39How are you?
00:03:39I don't know why.
00:03:40Like, I literally had like an accent.
00:03:42But that's when it was like, well, that's when I was drinking personally a lot more.
00:03:49And in the video, I go, I took six shots.
00:03:52Chloe took five shots.
00:03:53We're going to start the video.
00:03:55I've taken one shot and I'm like, not okay.
00:03:58No, no, you've taken half of one with me.
00:03:59Yeah, that's true.
00:04:00And Kylie and I, we're here.
00:04:01We have all of Kylie Cosmetics here because we're here and we're trying to bring that same
00:04:05energy.
00:04:06But I'm not asking Kylie today, like, where are you from?
00:04:09Because you're my sister.
00:04:10Like, it's weird.
00:04:11If I'm like, so how was your childhood?
00:04:13So we're just going to ask random fun questions that probably most interviewers.
00:04:18Let's keep this fun.
00:04:19It's f***ing fun.
00:04:21It's f***ing fun.
00:04:22And whatever you don't want to answer, say it, b***h.
00:04:24Shut the f*** up.
00:04:25And we don't answer it.
00:04:26And we move on.
00:04:27And these aren't like riveting questions because you're my sister.
00:04:30I can ask you things that another interviewer is too afraid to ask you because they need
00:04:34to be like proper.
00:04:36F*** you, b***h.
00:04:37I don't need to be proper.
00:04:38And on that note, let's take half a shot.
00:04:41You think so?
00:04:43Chloe, please.
00:04:45I'm not okay.
00:04:46How are you okay?
00:04:47I'm not okay, but I can read still.
00:04:50Okay.
00:04:50So I'm going to take a quarter.
00:04:52Mm-hmm.
00:04:53Can I just take a big gulp of my martini?
00:04:56It's like the same thing.
00:04:57Whatever you want to do.
00:05:01F***.
00:05:03Head.
00:05:04I also wanted to say, I don't know if I've ever been on a podcast before.
00:05:08What?
00:05:09Right?
00:05:10I don't know.
00:05:11What podcast have I been on?
00:05:12Stoss?
00:05:13No.
00:05:14I've never been on a podcast before.
00:05:16Honestly, though.
00:05:16But I wanted this public announcement.
00:05:18I wanted to start maybe getting on some podcasts.
00:05:20But I couldn't have done that.
00:05:21No, don't say that.
00:05:22Without going on yours first.
00:05:24Well, yeah.
00:05:24Now you're on mine.
00:05:25So honestly, that's how it should be, though.
00:05:28Yeah, duh.
00:05:30Okay.
00:05:32Kylie Kristen Jenner.
00:05:34Why are you scared?
00:05:35No, it's fine.
00:05:36Whatever you don't want to talk about, we're not talking about.
00:05:39It's fine.
00:05:39Okay.
00:05:40I'm just so drunk.
00:05:42Discuss your Roman Empire.
00:05:44Like, what do you think about way too much?
00:05:47What is something?
00:05:48It could be the most, like, I think about the color pink all the time.
00:05:52Whatever it is.
00:05:52What is something that you think about all the time?
00:05:56Aliens, maybe.
00:05:57Yes.
00:05:58Talk to me.
00:05:59Yeah.
00:06:00Probably aliens.
00:06:02I just have this, like.
00:06:02Kylie, you and I at this moment, just, we got so much deeper.
00:06:06Yeah.
00:06:06Yeah, yeah.
00:06:07No, we just did.
00:06:07This, we relate about this a lot.
00:06:11I just.
00:06:12Love you more and more every day.
00:06:13I don't know what it is ever since I was a child.
00:06:16I think it's because the first scary movie I've ever seen was Signs.
00:06:20What the f*** is Signs?
00:06:21Signs, bitch.
00:06:23I don't know.
00:06:24With Joaquin Phoenix.
00:06:25I don't know if I know.
00:06:28I have to see.
00:06:29Maybe if I show you a photo.
00:06:30Yeah.
00:06:30But that was the first scary movie I've ever saw.
00:06:33Okay.
00:06:33And it just gave me this, like, intense fear of aliens.
00:06:38And that would just be something that I think about a lot.
00:06:41Do you think that they're, so are you afraid of them now?
00:06:45Yes.
00:06:46So I want to reassure you.
00:06:48If aliens were to land on Earth, like, I don't know what, I would have to just.
00:06:54Kylie, they are among us.
00:06:56I know.
00:06:56You don't have to be afraid.
00:06:57Dr. Stephen Greer already said that the government.
00:07:00I watched that podcast.
00:07:02That they're going to stage an alien invasion.
00:07:04So don't believe that.
00:07:05You said they are?
00:07:07They are?
00:07:07Dr. Stephen Greer said they are.
00:07:09He said the government is going to try to instill fear in everyone.
00:07:13They're going to stage an alien invasion.
00:07:16So, bitch, I'm good.
00:07:18Okay.
00:07:18When you can't fall asleep at night, what is your go-to scrolling app?
00:07:23TikTok.
00:07:24What are you looking up?
00:07:25Are you just, like, mindlessly?
00:07:25I'm just on my For You page.
00:07:27Yeah.
00:07:28And what is, like, your algorithm?
00:07:30It's really, it's a lot of animals.
00:07:32Okay.
00:07:33Wait, wait.
00:07:34Cut to.
00:07:34How many animals do you have?
00:07:36So I just got two cats, and I have lots of dogs.
00:07:39I lost count.
00:07:40Yeah.
00:07:41You have a ton of dogs.
00:07:42But my TikTok scroll is, like, animals, like, funny videos of, like, chickens and roosters.
00:07:47I was going to say, and you have chickens.
00:07:48Lots of cats.
00:07:49I have chickens, too.
00:07:51Lots of cats.
00:07:54And what else is on my For You page?
00:07:57Like, people falling and stuff.
00:08:00That's random.
00:08:02Okay.
00:08:03And that is random.
00:08:04How many group chats do you think you have?
00:08:09I feel like I only speak in group chats.
00:08:11Oh, really?
00:08:11Yeah.
00:08:12Okay.
00:08:13So I feel honored when I have an individual conversation with you.
00:08:16Yes.
00:08:17Okay.
00:08:17Cool.
00:08:18I'm like, ooh, this is serious if Chloe's texting me on the side.
00:08:21Yeah.
00:08:21Yeah.
00:08:22Yeah.
00:08:22I want to know, what are some of your memories of us growing up in the same house?
00:08:29Like, they could be the most random.
00:08:31Like, I don't know.
00:08:32What are, like, the things that come to mind?
00:08:34Okay.
00:08:36Do you want to know some of my earliest memories with you?
00:08:38I do.
00:08:38Okay.
00:08:39We were at the Hidden Hills house, and I remember you were, it was my birthday.
00:08:44Okay.
00:08:45And we were by the window.
00:08:47I just remember, this was like a very early memory.
00:08:50So I just remember we were by a window by the backyard, and you were telling me how old
00:08:56I was turning, and I think I was like four or something.
00:08:59Shut up.
00:09:00Okay.
00:09:00Yes.
00:09:00And you were like, hold up your fingers, and you were helping me hold my fingers up.
00:09:05Kylie, there's no way you remember this.
00:09:06Are you going to cry?
00:09:07No, I need to hear the rest.
00:09:11I cried.
00:09:14Wait.
00:09:15Are you okay?
00:09:16Are you okay?
00:09:17I see your eyes watering.
00:09:19No, mine are glossy from alcohol.
00:09:21Yours are glossy from tears.
00:09:22There's a difference.
00:09:23So sweet.
00:09:24And then I remember, this is a little scarier.
00:09:28Oh.
00:09:29I just remember when you got in your car crash.
00:09:31Wait.
00:09:32And you were like laying in your bed with a neck brace.
00:09:38And I remember.
00:09:39These are not the same story, by the way.
00:09:41No, this was a different time.
00:09:42Okay.
00:09:43So the first memory is, that's so sweet of me.
00:09:50You were four.
00:09:51And you were holding up my fingers to tell me how old I was.
00:09:56That's so nice of me.
00:09:56You were like my mom.
00:09:57I'm going to cry just because you're crying.
00:10:00I mean, the martinis do this to me.
00:10:02I don't know why.
00:10:02No, just because it's sweet.
00:10:03Okay.
00:10:04And then, pause.
00:10:06Pause.
00:10:07Another memory.
00:10:07Next memory is.
00:10:09I remember you, I remember, I think my, when my parents, you know, my mother and my father.
00:10:15I know them.
00:10:15And they were like, Chloe, they kind of, I remember they like explained to me kind of
00:10:19what happened.
00:10:20And then I went in to see you and you were like laying in bed with a neck brace.
00:10:23Am I wrong?
00:10:23No, you're not.
00:10:24Yeah.
00:10:24So at 16 years old, I got into a really bad car accident where an older gentleman ran
00:10:32a red light.
00:10:33I spun out.
00:10:35I went through my car windshield.
00:10:37I had to be removed from the car with the jaws of life is what it's called.
00:10:41I've had three knee surgeries from it.
00:10:44I was in a neck brace.
00:10:46I had like third degree burns.
00:10:47Your head went through the windshield.
00:10:48Yes.
00:10:48My head went through the windshield.
00:10:52And my dad always said, and I remember it was on cold water right before Ventura,
00:10:56my dad's office.
00:10:57I never knew where it was.
00:10:58I knew, I know exactly where it is.
00:11:00If I drive by it, I'm like, oh, I literally start like tensing up because I'm like, pay
00:11:05attention, look all around you.
00:11:07And I remember the stop sign, the man rolled to hit me.
00:11:11So it was a stop sign.
00:11:13Yes.
00:11:13So Ventura was there and then right below it was like a stop sign.
00:11:17And to my right, because I was driving to my dad's office and my dad's office was,
00:11:22there was a Jerry's deli and a pins bowling alley.
00:11:25And my dad had an office right before.
00:11:27Okay.
00:11:27And my, I had a Mercedes and my on star immediately called my dad's office and Kim answered
00:11:34because she was his secretary.
00:11:35And it said, airbag went off, whatever it says.
00:11:38And Kim ran down and I kept saying, mom, mom.
00:11:41And I, I have no recollection of that at all.
00:11:43Kim would always say that.
00:11:44And they cut my jeans and it was the only, I was a little chubbier.
00:11:48So it was the only pair of jeans that fit me.
00:11:50And I kept saying, these are the only, Kim told me this.
00:11:53These are the only jeans that work.
00:11:54Don't do that to me.
00:11:56Oh, wow.
00:11:57And I went straight to surgery that day for my knee.
00:11:59But, um, and I had some memory loss from that incident and yeah, and that was horrible.
00:12:08And then I was put in a neck brace.
00:12:10I had a knee brace from my ankle to my upper thigh for like three months.
00:12:14And mom made me go on a date with someone in that time.
00:12:17And I was like, the way I walked into the date, her and Gunnar put me in a date with someone.
00:12:22It was like the meanest thing to do.
00:12:24I remember you healing at the, at home.
00:12:27I remember that was like very significant.
00:12:29Yeah, that was, that was.
00:12:31And you in bed with your neck brace.
00:12:33That wasn't great, but I'm alive and praise God.
00:12:36Praise God.
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00:15:54Does Kylie remember Chloe sneaking out and getting in trouble?
00:16:02Are those any of your memories?
00:16:03Okay, good.
00:16:04I think Chris shielded me from that.
00:16:06Thank God.
00:16:07Yeah.
00:16:07So what are your other memories?
00:16:09My other memories, they're all positive.
00:16:11You were definitely a strong authority figure in my life.
00:16:17So Chloe's the one that, like, always had my password.
00:16:20I remember I really wanted a Facebook or a MySpace.
00:16:23In Twitter.
00:16:24MySpace, Facebook, Twitter were the first three socials.
00:16:28But before I could even have an account, like, you had to sit Kendall and I down, talk to us about the dangers of social media.
00:16:36You needed our password.
00:16:37And if you guys changed your passwords, I would always say, I'm coming to find you and I'm taking them off your, like, whatever.
00:16:44You're not allowed to have them.
00:16:45Because if you violated not giving me the password.
00:16:48Yeah.
00:16:48And you guys were so good.
00:16:50Yeah, we were.
00:16:50Yeah.
00:16:50I think that saved me from a lot of things, probably.
00:16:54I didn't even have the thought that I can do anything bad on social media because I really felt like you were watching.
00:17:01That and then just like if I would get in trouble, you would take the home phone away from my bedroom.
00:17:08You were definitely like, I respected you.
00:17:13I don't know who I would have been.
00:17:16I don't know who I would have been today if you weren't there.
00:17:19I remember.
00:17:20Because you were like the discipline.
00:17:22Disciplinary.
00:17:23In my life.
00:17:24Yeah.
00:17:25And I love that.
00:17:26But we also had such a great relationship.
00:17:28Like, I remember when you told me the first person that you had like a real serious relationship with.
00:17:33And I remember like you would talk about it so freely.
00:17:37I remember exactly where I was.
00:17:38I was actually on the freeway.
00:17:39You called me and you told me all these intimate things.
00:17:42And I remember like, okay, I had to put the phone down and be like, okay, we just turned a corner.
00:17:49Like, thinking to myself, she's not a little girl anymore.
00:17:53But I had to like be cool.
00:17:55Okay.
00:17:56And not like, don't blow it, Chloe.
00:17:59Like, let her still tell you things.
00:18:00But I was driving to a basketball game, I think.
00:18:04And I just remember like telling myself, okay, be cool.
00:18:07This information isn't great.
00:18:09But now she's like dating people.
00:18:11We're okay.
00:18:11We're okay.
00:18:12And I just remember.
00:18:13And you would always come to me with problems.
00:18:16And I took such pride in that.
00:18:18Aww.
00:18:19Yeah.
00:18:19I didn't know that.
00:18:21Well, because I literally was like, don't freak out.
00:18:24It's okay.
00:18:25Do you remember the first time you've ever like lied to me?
00:18:28I don't really know if you and I have a lying relationship.
00:18:31We don't really have a lying relationship.
00:18:33But anytime I would even attempt to, I feel like you would catch me in a lie like immediately.
00:18:38I feel like we're both not good liars.
00:18:39I was way too afraid to lie to you.
00:18:41Yeah.
00:18:42And you're just, we don't have a lying family really.
00:18:46Yeah.
00:18:46Like I feel like we're, we would just avoid as opposed to lie.
00:18:51Yeah.
00:18:51If that makes sense.
00:18:53I agree.
00:18:53Oh yeah.
00:18:54F*** it up, Kylie.
00:18:55Cheers to that.
00:18:56We've already cried.
00:18:58We've laughed.
00:19:00What was our bonding experience like being pregnant?
00:19:03I don't think we ever expected to be pregnant at the same time.
00:19:07Never.
00:19:08In a million years.
00:19:09No.
00:19:10Going from you helping me count my birthday on my fingers to being pregnant together.
00:19:15So I think that we embraced it.
00:19:19I think we were, we were, yeah, we did.
00:19:21I remember like respectfully, I think Kim was first and she was a surrogate.
00:19:31So she wasn't.
00:19:32We really took her shine away really fast.
00:19:34We did.
00:19:34And I remember how jealous she was that you and I were pregnant together.
00:19:37Oh yeah.
00:19:38Cause then she was like, f*** why did I, like why wasn't I pregnant with you?
00:19:41Cause it just would have been like, what an experience.
00:19:44Yeah.
00:19:44And then you were pregnant.
00:19:46I had not a clue.
00:19:48Obviously I was pregnant three months after you.
00:19:51And I remember having the barbecue at mom's.
00:19:54You couldn't be there.
00:19:55You were sick from pregnancy and you were in bed.
00:19:58And when we FaceTimed you, you were like, stop, are you pregnant?
00:20:02And I remember saying yes.
00:20:03And it was like, never in a million years.
00:20:06I think that you and I did photo shoots together and so many amazing things, but never in a million
00:20:12years would I think that.
00:20:13I know.
00:20:13And God has such a way having our sons together, having our sons together ever.
00:20:19And Kylie is really one of the main reasons why I felt so safe and comfortable having
00:20:28Tatum because Kylie was like, come on air is six months older than Tatum.
00:20:33And when I was like crying and like, why is this happening?
00:20:37I can't believe it's happening a second time.
00:20:38And you were like, but God makes no mistakes.
00:20:41And this is supposed to happen.
00:20:42And now our sons get to grow up together and we in stormy and true.
00:20:46And now we have Tatum and air and you were so right.
00:20:50Well, who could have planned it better?
00:20:53God, you know, that's it.
00:20:55It was like, it's crazy.
00:20:56It is crazy.
00:20:57It really is crazy.
00:20:58And they have each other.
00:20:59Thank God.
00:21:01Because who would air be with?
00:21:02I don't know.
00:21:03No.
00:21:04Who would Tatum be with?
00:21:05I don't know.
00:21:05Right.
00:21:06It's crazy.
00:21:07They're so cute.
00:21:08And we have to keep them like nice and sensitive because when they're together, they like,
00:21:12I just sent Chloe a video like two days ago, they went to Disneyland and they were like
00:21:15in the cart, like holding hands like this.
00:21:18They love each other.
00:21:19Around Disneyland, looking, enjoying the experience.
00:21:22I want them to like be sensitive and close.
00:21:26And they love each other.
00:21:28Yeah, they do.
00:21:29What surprised you most about becoming a mom?
00:21:32I don't think you realize how selfish you are.
00:21:38Like even the little things until you have kids, like leaving the house, just leaving
00:21:44the house.
00:21:45Like even just going to a friend's house.
00:21:47It could be nothing.
00:21:48Going to a friend's house.
00:21:48Yeah.
00:21:48You can't do those things anymore.
00:21:50Yeah.
00:21:50So I think just little things like that, but also I was really scared the first time
00:21:57I was really young.
00:21:58I also think that maybe people don't fully know about you is that since you were little,
00:22:07you were the biggest nurturer and Kylie had a dog named Dolce.
00:22:14And I think you got this dog at seven, maybe younger, but around seven.
00:22:19They were in Sherwood.
00:22:21So probably younger, like maybe six, maybe six or seven.
00:22:26And the way Kylie was obsessed with this animal and the way, like normally kids are like, I
00:22:31want a dog.
00:22:32I want a dog.
00:22:32And they're cool for like two weeks.
00:22:34And then the kid, like it's the parent's responsibility.
00:22:37This dog was Kylie's baby.
00:22:39I couldn't have sleepovers because I was so obsessed with the dog.
00:22:42And it was instead of calling your parents when you're at a sleepover, like, mom, I miss
00:22:47you.
00:22:47It would be like, how's Dolce?
00:22:50Is Dolce okay?
00:22:51I have to come home.
00:22:53Yes.
00:22:54So I think innately Kylie has had this maternal instinct her entire life.
00:23:00And even if people saw it or they didn't see it, like, so obviously a dog and a human are
00:23:05two different things, but you've always had these progressional steps that were so natural
00:23:11to you.
00:23:11And you had this maternal instinct, even with your friends and you're silly and fun and
00:23:15all of that.
00:23:16But the mom gene, I don't think there was a lot that needed to change you because you
00:23:22were just like, okay, whenever it happens, I'm ready.
00:23:24Like I, I can lock in.
00:23:26Yeah.
00:23:27And you do.
00:23:28You lock in.
00:23:29Thank you, babe.
00:23:30Cheers.
00:23:31Oh, yeah.
00:23:33I mean, I'm still going.
00:23:34You better go.
00:23:38What are the difference of these brushes?
00:23:40You know what I wish you would do?
00:23:41What?
00:23:42I wish because like for idiots like me who doesn't know makeup, you see how it says Kylie
00:23:47Cosmetics.
00:23:48I wish this said like blush brush.
00:23:50I don't give a fuck about your number.
00:23:52No, I love that.
00:23:53Thank you for the feedback.
00:23:54Like contour.
00:23:55I also don't want to.
00:23:56Eyeshadow.
00:23:56But I don't want to limit it to.
00:23:58Okay.
00:23:59But on the website, it says more information.
00:24:02I just, I'm not.
00:24:03This is my foundation brush.
00:24:05Oh, okay.
00:24:05I was going to use that for blush.
00:24:06This is the blush brush.
00:24:06This.
00:24:07Okay.
00:24:07I need some blush.
00:24:07But you can use it for anything.
00:24:08Like this is my skin tint brush, but I use it for contour.
00:24:12I'm just not like a makeup.
00:24:14This is the concealer brush.
00:24:15You don't use this.
00:24:17I have it.
00:24:18This is the best thing ever.
00:24:20So this is the best brush ever for concealer.
00:24:23I just need something.
00:24:24I wish these said like specifics.
00:24:26That's just my wish.
00:24:27And you could customize it just for me.
00:24:29How do you balance maintaining your personal identity while being a parent?
00:24:34I think I have a really good balance.
00:24:38You have a great balance.
00:24:39I have a really good balance.
00:24:40I think that I definitely still feel like myself.
00:24:43It was a really hard for me having kids so young and you're just the emotions and the
00:24:52postpartum and probably being the only one in your circle.
00:24:56The only one.
00:24:57Iris, that's Iris and I became a lot closer.
00:25:00She's a little bit older than me.
00:25:02She, we had kids together.
00:25:03Iris was on the pod.
00:25:04She was on the pod, but I think I did a pretty good job.
00:25:10I think it just takes time.
00:25:12You did a great job.
00:25:13It took me like a year probably after, both times, to really feel like myself again.
00:25:19I think that's normal.
00:25:20Yeah.
00:25:21I think it just takes a minute to like get your mojo back.
00:25:24No, it does.
00:25:25Has being a mom changed how you think about your own childhood or how you view mom?
00:25:30Yes.
00:25:31In what ways?
00:25:32I think that I can relate to her more.
00:25:35I understand maybe some of the decisions that she made.
00:25:39For sure, it's changed my whole relationship with my mom.
00:25:44It's interesting because in interviews, if someone asks me, like, has being a mom changed
00:25:49the way you view mom?
00:25:50And I say, significantly.
00:25:52And I say, I almost am jealous of Kylie for getting to have, because I think when you
00:26:00become a mom, you have so much more empathy for your own mother.
00:26:04Like you understand, wait, we're just humans.
00:26:07Yeah.
00:26:07And she's doing the best she knows how to do.
00:26:11Just because you're a mom or a doctor, we put so much like power with these people.
00:26:16And like, they're still normal human beings that like, yes, we view them as superheroes,
00:26:22but doesn't necessarily mean they are.
00:26:24And they're just like, our mom had us in her young 20 or had the older ones in the young
00:26:2920s.
00:26:30And then if she makes mistakes, that's okay.
00:26:33We're allowed to give her grace and forgiveness.
00:26:35And so the fact that you get that understanding so young, your relationship with mom gets
00:26:41to be so close from such an early age where I feel like mom and I butted heads a lot when
00:26:46I was a teenager.
00:26:48When I was a teenager too, though.
00:26:50Really?
00:26:51Like before I moved out the house, I couldn't wait to get the f*** out of there.
00:26:54I feel like you and mom, you were like always a mommy's girl.
00:26:57No, her nickname, me and Stoss lived with me, basically.
00:27:01Her nickname was Dark Shadows.
00:27:02And every time she would walk in the door, we'd be like, Dark Shadows is home.
00:27:06Like we, like I had such a hard time.
00:27:09We butted heads.
00:27:11Shouldn't understand.
00:27:12I mean, you know me as a human being.
00:27:14I'm very type.
00:27:15Her name was what?
00:27:16Satan.
00:27:17Yeah, exactly.
00:27:18But I'm very type B.
00:27:20Yeah, no, there's no A.
00:27:22There's no A.
00:27:24Nope.
00:27:24In here.
00:27:25I'm like messy.
00:27:28But in a very, like I know where everything is.
00:27:31It's just how my brain works.
00:27:32Like if there's a mess and someone moves my mess.
00:27:35You guys.
00:27:36I know where.
00:27:37I know.
00:27:38During the fires.
00:27:39Okay.
00:27:40Kylie was nice enough.
00:27:41We were getting evacuated.
00:27:43Hidden Hills.
00:27:43The podcast.
00:27:45We had to even, I think, prolong our start of our podcast because the fires.
00:27:50Kylie was nice enough.
00:27:51She was like, come evacuate me, Scott, all the kids.
00:27:55And we were all at Kylie's.
00:27:56Are you going to talk about your evacuation?
00:27:57No, no, no.
00:27:58We were all at the.
00:27:59No, no, I'm not.
00:28:00We're all at her other home in Beverly Hills.
00:28:02And Kylie's like, are you good?
00:28:05Are you coming to Palm Springs?
00:28:06I'm like, yes, we're going tomorrow.
00:28:07Thank you so much for letting us be here.
00:28:09And she's like, are you, are you, Kylie said, are you going crazy?
00:28:14And I was like, why?
00:28:16And she's like, because all the piles of things everywhere.
00:28:19And I was like, well, now that you offered that, yes, it's a little crazy.
00:28:23And she said, Chloe, I'm just a go with the flow type of girl.
00:28:27I don't want to stress up things.
00:28:30And I was like, okay.
00:28:32She was so like, like just lackadaisical.
00:28:36I was so envious.
00:28:37It wasn't even like was everywhere.
00:28:40You were just like, there's a method to this.
00:28:42Be cool.
00:28:43And I was not cool.
00:28:46I couldn't handle it.
00:28:47And you were so great.
00:28:48And I was like, and the fact that you even let us all come over there, that alone would
00:28:51have freaked me out.
00:28:52You know, mom would have been like, the hotel is full.
00:28:55Yeah.
00:28:56Just even if it was empty.
00:28:57Just because she's like, no one.
00:28:59It was like you and Scott, right?
00:29:00Me, Scott, Cece, Lala.
00:29:02Oh.
00:29:03All of our kids.
00:29:06Rob and Dream.
00:29:07I didn't even know you guys were all.
00:29:10I mean, I told everyone you can absolutely go, but I was out of town and I didn't hear
00:29:14from you.
00:29:14Yeah.
00:29:14No, you were fine.
00:29:15But you were so chill.
00:29:17And you were like, are you going nuts?
00:29:19I was like, I don't know.
00:29:20Because you were in my bed.
00:29:21Because it was right after Christmas.
00:29:21I was in your bed.
00:29:22But my room, by the way, we're making it seem like my room is like a tornado.
00:29:27It's just like, you know, I have books and I have my crystals and I have my.
00:29:30And it was right after Christmas.
00:29:32So the presents and they was like, but to you, it's or I was like, do you want me to
00:29:36help you put this away?
00:29:37You're like, no, I know where everything is.
00:29:39And I'm like, okay.
00:29:41It was great.
00:29:42And my closet, I don't know what to do about my closet.
00:29:45It's like.
00:29:46No, but you're moving.
00:29:47I keep trying to.
00:29:47I know.
00:29:48So it'll be a fresh start.
00:29:50What do you think our different parenting styles are?
00:29:53Because I think you and I are somewhat similar or no.
00:29:57Am I crazy?
00:29:58No, we are similar.
00:29:59Yeah.
00:29:59I feel like we are.
00:30:00I think you are.
00:30:02Well, you're the best mom.
00:30:05So are you, though.
00:30:06I think you're a little more regimented.
00:30:11Regimented.
00:30:11Yep.
00:30:12That better word.
00:30:13Yeah.
00:30:13Than rigid.
00:30:16You are very like they need to be asleep at this time or like my day.
00:30:22Like it's the world has ended, you know, where I'm a little like it's like fine.
00:30:29And we're at Disneyland.
00:30:30Like they can stay 30 more minutes.
00:30:32You're very.
00:30:33Listen, I let Tatum go to Disneyland the other day.
00:30:36But even now and not have his nap.
00:30:37I know he didn't.
00:30:38He didn't take a nap.
00:30:39I'm like, wow.
00:30:40I wasn't going to say anything to you.
00:30:41It was a big day.
00:30:41But he's like seven.
00:30:43And he was a demon.
00:30:44He's seven.
00:30:45He's three.
00:30:46When he came home, he was like, don't you talk to me.
00:30:51I was like, oh, my God.
00:30:53Tatum, is that you?
00:30:54Well, because you haven't.
00:30:56Because he's never not had a nap.
00:30:58Tatum needs his nap.
00:30:59Tatum was a lunatic.
00:31:01I mean, my son, Air, hasn't had a nap in like a year.
00:31:04Air has lost his nap?
00:31:06Yes.
00:31:07For a few months now.
00:31:09Kylie, that's major.
00:31:11They're going to be in preschool next year.
00:31:13True.
00:31:14No, it's happening soon.
00:31:16Air is also six months older than Tatum.
00:31:20That's true.
00:31:21It's a big difference.
00:31:22And Tatum was out of the movie of The Exorcist when I saw him after Disneyland.
00:31:27I was like, I need.
00:31:30But they got to go on more rides.
00:31:31And he's not going to remember, oh, I was so tired.
00:31:34I just, coming home from Disney.
00:31:35No, he thrived except for him begging for his nap.
00:31:38I said, you will not have a nap.
00:31:40And he was fine.
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00:33:10Ooh, what is the peak and the pit of your week so far?
00:33:14Well, the pit of my week is losing my Norman.
00:33:17That was, like, very hard for me.
00:33:19Very hard.
00:33:20I didn't think that.
00:33:22I was preparing myself because he was about to turn 13, and I knew that I didn't have as much time with him, but...
00:33:27But how crazy with the King Kylie anniversary of it all?
00:33:31I know.
00:33:32It's like, he made it to King Kylie.
00:33:34But that was definitely the pit of my day.
00:33:37The peak...
00:33:37The week.
00:33:39The peak would be, besides being here...
00:33:44It would be, I think, my King Kylie collection launching.
00:33:48F*** yeah.
00:33:49I've been preparing for that for, like, years.
00:33:51No, f*** it, in 10 years of any brand, anything, store, anything being in existence, that's f***ing...
00:34:00That's iconic.
00:34:01Yeah, it's a good dream.
00:34:03It is.
00:34:03I didn't think this far, but it's pretty amazing.
00:34:07How could you?
00:34:08You were so young, starting this from your...
00:34:11You were at mom's house, like, this is what I want to do.
00:34:15And you did it.
00:34:16And look at you.
00:34:17It's amazing.
00:34:18So, speaking of King Kylie, we have Popstar Kylie.
00:34:22Yay.
00:34:23Okay.
00:34:23How does it feel to be Popstar Kylie?
00:34:25I send you so many TikToks.
00:34:27Okay.
00:34:28So, all I do is send...
00:34:30I've sent you, like, 20 TikToks that I'm ignored on, that Kylie, it's...
00:34:36Wait, you send me TikToks, like, on TikTok?
00:34:39No, I don't know how to do that.
00:34:40Okay.
00:34:40Just to your text.
00:34:41I was going to say, I don't look at those.
00:34:42Obviously, but you look at your text messages.
00:34:44Yeah.
00:34:45It's fine.
00:34:45I'm not offended.
00:34:46Okay, whatever.
00:34:46And they're all about the Fourth Strike song and people dancing to them.
00:34:51They have choreography.
00:34:51Oh, yeah, you do.
00:34:52I did ignore that last one.
00:34:53And how cool.
00:34:53I'm fine.
00:34:53But only because I've seen it already.
00:34:55And I was like, oh, cute.
00:34:56Oh, you have?
00:34:56Good.
00:34:56Yeah.
00:34:57I just...
00:34:57I don't care if you acknowledge me.
00:34:58I'm like, you should, like, hype them up.
00:35:00I think it's so cute.
00:35:01Yeah.
00:35:01How does that feel?
00:35:03It feels really good because I had zero expectation.
00:35:07I didn't expect really, like...
00:35:10I mean, I loved it.
00:35:11I was proud of it.
00:35:12I thought it was amazing.
00:35:13But I didn't really do it for...
00:35:16To get a number one song or, like, I wasn't...
00:35:20Yeah.
00:35:20I tried and I put, you know, all the love and the best I could do.
00:35:24But I wasn't expecting anything.
00:35:26So anything extras feels really good.
00:35:29It's just, like, creative freedom and to have fun.
00:35:32Well, you know what was on my vision board?
00:35:34What?
00:35:36To record a song.
00:35:38I love that.
00:35:39Yeah.
00:35:39And when do you make vision boards?
00:35:42I do them with Iris every year, like, around New Year's.
00:35:46We just do it when our schedule's in line.
00:35:48Iris, I feel like anything she puts on those boards...
00:35:52She's such a good manifester.
00:35:53She's such a good manifester.
00:35:56It's crazy.
00:35:57Anything she puts on those boards.
00:35:58But yeah, we did a vision board.
00:36:00And honestly, I haven't done one in a few years since then.
00:36:03But everything on my vision board has, like, come true.
00:36:05Okay, then we got to do another one.
00:36:07That's what I'm saying.
00:36:08I'm setting up...
00:36:08Now I'm, like, in a dream even bigger.
00:36:10Hello?
00:36:10I have some thoughts on my vision board.
00:36:13Okay.
00:36:13I want you to put them on the vision board.
00:36:15I'm not going to tell you to talk about them.
00:36:17But I need to be a part of this.
00:36:19Yeah.
00:36:19I need to do this, too.
00:36:20We should do it, the three of us.
00:36:21We should.
00:36:22But yeah, I did record a song, like, get out of your comfort zone.
00:36:27Did you put acting on there?
00:36:29Because I'm your acting girl.
00:36:32I did.
00:36:33You did?
00:36:34Well, I didn't put acting, but I put more general, like, do things that you're afraid
00:36:39of.
00:36:40Do things outside of your comfort zone.
00:36:42What are the two things that you're most afraid of?
00:36:46Career-wise, acting and singing.
00:36:48Okay.
00:36:49And you did both this year.
00:36:51Wow.
00:36:52Oh, my God.
00:36:52For the Charlie movie coming out, I was Chloe.
00:36:57What?
00:36:57I was so scared for days.
00:37:03For what?
00:37:05To actually do it.
00:37:06To act.
00:37:06I had a very small part.
00:37:08I mean, I had a lot of lines, but I was just so afraid.
00:37:12I think I'm so used to, I think I used to do a lot more things out of my comfort zone,
00:37:17and now I'm used to, like, being very sheltered, staying in, like, a safe box for me.
00:37:25I relate to that a lot.
00:37:26Yeah, just, like, my safe space to not be, it's probably the reason why I don't share
00:37:30as much, just to not be judged or criticized or years of that takes a toll on you, and I
00:37:37think at a certain point, you're like, okay, I'm going to do A, B, and C to just protect
00:37:42myself.
00:37:45I'm, like, so drunk.
00:37:48No, everything I'm saying, I, like, mean, but I'm like, wow.
00:37:51I'm going to look back on this and be like, yours is not okay.
00:37:54But, um, and then, um, so I just, I don't even remember what I was talking about.
00:37:59Anyway, I was very scared to do this and very proud of myself when I did it.
00:38:04I'm so proud.
00:38:05I remember when you did it.
00:38:06Yeah.
00:38:07I'm so proud of you.
00:38:08Who do you turn to for acting?
00:38:11I don't know if it's advice or just support or, like, to give you that confidence that
00:38:16you need.
00:38:16I think, well, before I officially, it was right around when Jesus passed, so I felt
00:38:22like I committed to it, and then I was like, wow, I'm in a really bad place, and I just
00:38:28don't know in a month from now if I'll be okay to do this.
00:38:32I think it was, like, a month away.
00:38:33And, but I still, you know, I was like, I know the director, obviously, Aiden, so I
00:38:40was, like, in contact with him, and I'm like, I really want to do it.
00:38:43I hope that I'm in a better place.
00:38:45Like, just give me a chance.
00:38:46Like, I'll get it together.
00:38:48And then closer to, I actually called Kim, and I was just like, I know you're, like, in
00:38:54your acting bag right now, and I just need a little, like, encouragement and some advice.
00:39:00And I read the lines to her, like, how I would say it, and she was like, you got, you're
00:39:04like, you're saying it perfect.
00:39:05You got this.
00:39:06This is so easy.
00:39:07What's your role?
00:39:08Or do you not want to give it away?
00:39:09I'm myself.
00:39:10Cute.
00:39:10I can't tell you anything other than that.
00:39:12But basically, it's major, obviously.
00:39:15Obviously.
00:39:16Do you want to continue acting?
00:39:18I.
00:39:19Get in your acting bag?
00:39:21I would do it if it was, like, the right.
00:39:25Thing.
00:39:25Was the right thing, the right role.
00:39:27Okay.
00:39:28I would.
00:39:29Okay.
00:39:30I don't think I'm so, I would love to do something that was, like, I think I'm, I think
00:39:37I'm hilarious.
00:39:39You are.
00:39:40So I would want to do something that was, like, funny, or, I don't know.
00:39:45I think it would have to just be the right thing.
00:39:47What is your go-to TV show?
00:39:49I'm watching Task right now.
00:39:51What the f*** is that?
00:39:52Oh my god, you're such a loser.
00:39:55I'm such a loser with TV.
00:39:57So tell me, what are you watching?
00:39:58Honestly, it's fine.
00:40:00Wait, let me just-
00:40:01Because I'm watching Love is Blind, and when I get home later, I get to watch the wedding
00:40:05episodes.
00:40:06Stop.
00:40:07Have you watched them?
00:40:07I haven't gotten into the recent season.
00:40:10What?
00:40:10Okay.
00:40:10So maybe I'll get into that after, but I'm watching Task right now, and I'm really into
00:40:14it.
00:40:14What is Task about?
00:40:15Task is about, oh, I'm, like, bleeding.
00:40:18It's cool.
00:40:18You're bleeding?
00:40:19Look at my big toe.
00:40:21Whatever.
00:40:22So-
00:40:23I have to pee so badly, and I'm just, like, holding on.
00:40:26Just-
00:40:27Take a pee break.
00:40:27I need a second.
00:40:28Okay.
00:40:28I need to pee break.
00:40:32We are back.
00:40:34What are some of your silly and superstitious rituals you do?
00:40:39Because you are superstitious.
00:40:40Sorry, I'm applying my lip liner.
00:40:43That's okay.
00:40:44Okay.
00:40:45Wouldn't you consider yourself superstitious?
00:40:48I think so.
00:40:51I just believe in, like, whatever you believe in.
00:40:54Yeah, so what are three things you believe in?
00:40:57Like, I don't know.
00:40:57What are you trying to say?
00:40:58I'm trying to say that-
00:41:01Like, you love crystals.
00:41:02I loved crystals.
00:41:05I still love crystals.
00:41:07Got it.
00:41:07Okay.
00:41:08But I wouldn't say, like, I don't really, like, leave them out, and the moonlight, and
00:41:12the sun, and charge them, and the whole thing.
00:41:13But yes, I used to be obsessed.
00:41:15Yeah, you used to.
00:41:15Okay.
00:41:17So no superstitions?
00:41:19I don't think so.
00:41:20I think I just don't really speak anything into existence that I-
00:41:24I will keep things inside my deepest fears in my head, because I won't think of them.
00:41:31I mean, I won't say them out loud to other people.
00:41:34I will say that's the smartest thing you could do.
00:41:37I don't care what you believe in.
00:41:39The tongue is so powerful.
00:41:42I agree.
00:41:42And whether we sing it in a song or whatever, that s*** comes true.
00:41:47Your body doesn't know if you're f***ing singing a song.
00:41:50Yeah.
00:41:50It comes true.
00:41:52I do believe in that.
00:41:53Period.
00:41:54When do you mute our family group chat?
00:41:57Like, at what point?
00:41:59You're not muted now, because I got a new phone.
00:42:01You were always muted.
00:42:03Bye.
00:42:03Ooh, dis.
00:42:04Just because sometimes when you guys are just-
00:42:06Sometimes we will be having separate conversations on the chat, and it's like, I don't really
00:42:12need to hear this right now.
00:42:15This has nothing to do with me.
00:42:16But so far, I mean, so far-
00:42:18So far we're behaving.
00:42:19No muting.
00:42:20Yeah, has happened.
00:42:21Your boundaries, I don't know, 10 years ago to now, have they changed?
00:42:30My boundaries, personally?
00:42:32Yeah.
00:42:32Yeah, for sure.
00:42:34Right.
00:42:34And do you think, like, I remember how much we all used to get on court for, like, the
00:42:41trigger word of boundaries.
00:42:43Yes.
00:42:43But now, like, especially that I'm older and, like, I have kids, I'm like, I'm eating
00:42:48my words.
00:42:49Like, I love a boundary.
00:42:50Yeah.
00:42:51Do you love a boundary?
00:42:52I do love a boundary, of course.
00:42:54And what's your favorite boundary?
00:42:56That I have for myself, personally.
00:42:58Mm-hmm.
00:42:58Like, my kids' personal life, I guess.
00:43:01I will say you in court are the best at having whatever boundaries are.
00:43:06They're very different, you in court.
00:43:07But what your boundaries are, just abide by them.
00:43:11Yeah.
00:43:11Like, I love that you guys aren't, like, sometimes I get frustrated.
00:43:16I'm like, come on, or whatever.
00:43:17But I respect how you guys just stick to that.
00:43:22And you're like, no, I'm not bending for anyone.
00:43:24And you don't feel guilty about it.
00:43:25I wish I didn't feel guilty about everything.
00:43:29I feel guilty about everything.
00:43:30When you're spiraling, who do you text first?
00:43:34When I'm spiraling, well, I'll call you a lot when I'm spiraling.
00:43:38I love that.
00:43:40I do.
00:43:40I really love that.
00:43:42The last call was fun.
00:43:44What was that?
00:43:45The hair.
00:43:46Oh, yes.
00:43:46Yes.
00:43:47My daughter, True, had a really high temperature.
00:43:51I posted about it last Christmas.
00:43:53And it, like, was so, so, so sad.
00:43:57True had 107 fever.
00:43:58Crazy.
00:43:59So crazy.
00:44:00I never knew that if you had such a high fever for that long.
00:44:04Months later, three months later, it will cause significant hair loss.
00:44:10True lost about between 50% to 60% of her hair in volume.
00:44:15She still has hair.
00:44:16We took her to the doctors.
00:44:17It was the most terrifying thing.
00:44:20Kylie and I really were able to talk about Stormy had an interesting hair situation.
00:44:27And hair trauma is a big thing.
00:44:29I think when it happens to you as an adult, you're like, okay, I can, this sucks, I can process this, hair will grow back, I'll get some whatever, extensions.
00:44:39You can't do that for kids.
00:44:39When it happens to your kid, you're like, it sucks.
00:44:44And you have to stay strong so they don't realize there's a problem.
00:44:48Of course, of course.
00:44:48And that's the hardest part.
00:44:50Yeah.
00:44:51I think that's the hardest part.
00:44:52I really do.
00:44:53How are you letting loose in finding your happiness these days?
00:44:57Like, what makes you happy?
00:44:58I have never been happier.
00:45:03I love that.
00:45:06And what makes you so happy?
00:45:08Just all the stars are aligning?
00:45:10All the stars are aligning.
00:45:12And yeah, I don't know.
00:45:16So, I mean, there's a lot that, I think it's just also growing up, I think, and finding yourself and surrounding yourself with the right people, everything.
00:45:30How do you feel about Kendall turning 30?
00:45:33Kendall turning 30 really scares me.
00:45:35Why?
00:45:37I don't like it at all.
00:45:38But why don't you like it?
00:45:39Because you know you're next.
00:45:40Yeah.
00:45:41Yeah, I figured.
00:45:43Every time she gets to an age, I'm like, damn.
00:45:46Oh, I'm going to be there soon.
00:45:47Not that I don't feel, by the way, I feel like 45.
00:45:51What?
00:45:52Yes.
00:45:52What do you mean?
00:45:53I mean, I have two kids.
00:45:55I like have a million jobs.
00:45:57I have a business that just turned 10 years old.
00:45:59Like, of course I feel 45.
00:46:01What do you mean?
00:46:03That is so weird to me.
00:46:05Really?
00:46:05Yeah.
00:46:06Don't you feel like I am that bitch?
00:46:08I have two kids.
00:46:10I have a business that was 10 years old.
00:46:11I mean, I can't still feel like that bitch.
00:46:14No, I'm not.
00:46:14I'm that bitch and I'm 41.
00:46:16Exactly.
00:46:16But I'm just saying, when you're not 45 and you have all those things, like most people
00:46:23don't come into their own until they're 40s, sometimes 50s.
00:46:27No shame in that.
00:46:29You are that bitch at, okay, what was that?
00:46:32Under 20?
00:46:34Yeah.
00:46:35It's, I feel very young, but I feel very mature at the same time.
00:46:39I can get that.
00:46:41So.
00:46:41I also think maybe because of that, do you get enough grace when you do have like, like
00:46:48a wild night out?
00:46:50I guess you guys don't, I think you, you and Kendall have always been really aware.
00:46:56I got it out during COVID.
00:46:56I will say I got it out.
00:46:58What I was going to say is I think when you guys turned of age, society sort of changed
00:47:07a little bit.
00:47:07We're like the club life, the going out life wasn't what it was when I was 21.
00:47:13So when you guys went out, maybe it was more private, but let's just say a bad photo of
00:47:19you guys like stumbling out of a location, which is normal.
00:47:22We've all been there, came out like, especially if you're a mom and like, you're like having
00:47:28a fun night out.
00:47:29Other moms do it.
00:47:30Do you feel like you get as much grace, like a pass?
00:47:34Like why you're a business owner?
00:47:35You're responsible.
00:47:36I think I do.
00:47:37Good.
00:47:38I hope you do.
00:47:38Yeah.
00:47:39It's, I mean, it's rare to find us like.
00:47:41I can't remember the last, but I do think I get enough grace.
00:47:45Yeah.
00:47:46I don't really pop out like that.
00:47:47Let's be real.
00:47:48No, I know.
00:47:49But why don't any of us pop out like that?
00:47:51Because times are changing or because the eyes that are on us?
00:47:55I think I would just rather, rather not.
00:48:00Because I do feel like we get down and dirty at one of our houses.
00:48:02It's not like I'm dying to pop out.
00:48:03Exactly.
00:48:04No, but we.
00:48:04I'm not like dying to pop out.
00:48:05Oh, I'm missing out on so much.
00:48:07I just, I would rather just not do that.
00:48:10Yeah.
00:48:10You want to go to One Oak tonight or something?
00:48:13I do think times are just changing.
00:48:15One Oak's not even open anymore.
00:48:16You know that.
00:48:17Stop.
00:48:18I just learned that like two seconds ago.
00:48:20I'm like, what?
00:48:20I just learned that.
00:48:21Where have I been?
00:48:21Sometimes I drive in the streets and I'm like, where did this restaurant come from?
00:48:25And this, that's how much I just don't know what's going on out there.
00:48:29I think you just broke my heart a little bit.
00:48:30One Oak is gone.
00:48:31It's gone.
00:48:32It's something else.
00:48:34That's sad.
00:48:34I know.
00:48:35What is your idea of a perfect Sunday?
00:48:38Perfect Sunday is in the backyard in the sun all day with my kids, taking a walk, doing
00:48:44a puzzle, maybe a glass of wine at night, no gluten all day.
00:48:49No gluten.
00:48:50Oh my.
00:48:51You are getting nasty right now.
00:48:54No gluten.
00:48:55But maybe like a gluten-free cookie at night.
00:48:59You better calm down.
00:49:01You need to really take a chill.
00:49:03Maybe like glasses of wine, white or red, however I'm feeling.
00:49:08Are you a red or a white?
00:49:10Lately, I'm a white.
00:49:11I know.
00:49:12What?
00:49:13Pinot?
00:49:14Like what white?
00:49:15The white kind of just gets me going.
00:49:17No, but like.
00:49:17But Santa Margarita.
00:49:18Santa Margarita.
00:49:20Yeah.
00:49:20Okay.
00:49:20Talk to me dirty.
00:49:22Say it to me.
00:49:23Say it.
00:49:24Santa Margarita.
00:49:25Ay, papi.
00:49:26Okay.
00:49:28In an alternate universe, what would you be doing if you weren't you?
00:49:32I would be a, I would be something super major.
00:49:39Okay.
00:49:40Totally.
00:49:40I would be like a, maybe the best makeup artist in the world.
00:49:44You f***ing would.
00:49:46I f***ing would.
00:49:47You f***ing would.
00:49:47I would be the best makeup artist.
00:49:49I just, fun fact.
00:49:50I don't, I'm sure you remember this.
00:49:52So Kylie, it's just not meant to be that Kylie ever does my makeup.
00:49:56Okay.
00:49:56We have tried, I know at least two different occasions over the past 10 years.
00:50:02One of them, Kylie and I were going to film.
00:50:05We had apps together.
00:50:07You came to my house in the Oaks.
00:50:10We were about to film and mom got in a car accident.
00:50:14Oh my God.
00:50:14Yes.
00:50:14There was two other times that you were supposed to do my makeup on camera.
00:50:19Every time something crazy happened where you weren't able to do my makeup.
00:50:25Well, I would love to do your, I'm like, I live right next door to you.
00:50:28I don't know what my point is.
00:50:29I think I forgot because I'm drunk.
00:50:30But I'll do your makeup at any time.
00:50:32Literally call me.
00:50:34Okay.
00:50:34I don't know why I brought that up.
00:50:36It would be my honor.
00:50:37But anyways, crazy.
00:50:39Truth or dare?
00:50:40Okay.
00:50:42Will you pick?
00:50:43Oh.
00:50:44Haven't played this in a while.
00:50:47Truth.
00:50:48First DM you ever sent to someone you didn't know.
00:50:51Oh, I know this one.
00:50:53You do?
00:50:54What is it?
00:50:55I send a DM.
00:50:57I'm not going to say who.
00:50:58Stop.
00:50:59I'm dying already.
00:51:01To a guy for my forced dost.
00:51:06Okay.
00:51:08So it was like, not for me at all.
00:51:10I've never DM'd a guy.
00:51:11What did you say?
00:51:12But you know, I was pressured.
00:51:13Stoss was like, I like this guy.
00:51:16I love this man.
00:51:17I'm obsessed.
00:51:17I don't know how to get to him.
00:51:19Text him my page.
00:51:21I mean, DM him my page.
00:51:23And I was like, whatever, that's my girl.
00:51:25What am I supposed to do?
00:51:26And did you do it?
00:51:27I did.
00:51:28No response.
00:51:28I want to call Stoss right now from your phone and be like, Kylie's in jail.
00:51:37Oh my God.
00:51:38Do it.
00:51:39Wait, what do we say?
00:51:40Okay.
00:51:41You're going to say.
00:51:41No, I need a prank.
00:51:42Okay.
00:51:42Okay.
00:51:42I agree.
00:51:43What is the prank?
00:51:45Wait, you want to know it'd be so funny?
00:51:47Obviously.
00:51:48Okay.
00:51:48I've been wanting to do this for a while.
00:51:49Stop.
00:51:50Yeah.
00:51:50Tell me now.
00:51:51It's like a, there's a TikTok trend where you were like, people will call their friend
00:51:55and be like, did you mean to post that on Instagram?
00:51:59Okay.
00:52:00I don't think it's funny.
00:52:00But I say that or you say that.
00:52:01Like, imagine we face on Kim where like, all you say is.
00:52:04Oh, Kim would cry.
00:52:05Did you mean to post that on Instagram?
00:52:07Try Kim.
00:52:09It's just you, not me.
00:52:10It's just me.
00:52:11Just you.
00:52:12But I don't want her to even see me because then she'll see the video.
00:52:13No, so just call her.
00:52:15I'm going to FaceTime.
00:52:16No.
00:52:16No.
00:52:16She can't see anything.
00:52:18She can't see that I'm like lit and perfect.
00:52:20So.
00:52:20So.
00:52:21Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram?
00:52:24What?
00:52:25What you just posted.
00:52:27What did I post?
00:52:29Well, look on Instagram.
00:52:31I'm just like, you should probably delete them.
00:52:34What?
00:52:34What is it?
00:52:35I don't see anything.
00:52:36That pic of you.
00:52:37What pic?
00:52:39What pic, Kylie?
00:52:40I don't see anything.
00:52:43We're just kidding.
00:52:44You're on the podcast.
00:52:45I'm like, what?
00:52:48I was literally going through my phone.
00:52:49I'm like, what?
00:52:50Okay, that's called mom.
00:52:52Oh my God.
00:52:53Mom doesn't post.
00:52:55I know, but.
00:52:57Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram?
00:53:00What?
00:53:00What you just posted on Instagram.
00:53:02I didn't do anything.
00:53:03What?
00:53:04That picture of you.
00:53:05No.
00:53:06It's like a selfie of you in the mirror and you're like not clothed.
00:53:12What?
00:53:12Show me.
00:53:16Tell me right now and get it down.
00:53:18You've got to be kidding.
00:53:21What?
00:53:22What am I wearing, Kylie?
00:53:23Just be honest with me.
00:53:25Uh.
00:53:26Really quick.
00:53:26Well, I see your fucking boob.
00:53:29I'm calling Jen.
00:53:30Gotta go.
00:53:31Bye.
00:53:31I feel so bad.
00:53:37Jen is going to get yelled at.
00:53:39Jen.
00:53:40Call her back.
00:53:41Jen's going to get yelled at.
00:53:42It's not that.
00:53:46Well, no, I feel bad.
00:53:47She's not responding.
00:53:48She's not answering.
00:53:50Okay, let's call Kendall.
00:53:51I love this.
00:53:52Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram?
00:53:55Kylie, don't do this to me.
00:53:56Kylie, don't do this to me.
00:54:01Kylie, do you think I'm?
00:54:03Why are you a legend?
00:54:05Why are you a legend?
00:54:07The smartest person you've ever met?
00:54:10We're just kidding.
00:54:10Mom, it was a joke.
00:54:12I texted you.
00:54:12It was a prank.
00:54:12We texted you.
00:54:15What?
00:54:16It was a prank.
00:54:18You guys just lost my mind.
00:54:21I'm sorry.
00:54:23Kylie.
00:54:24Oh, my God.
00:54:25I just was shaking.
00:54:27I was shaking.
00:54:28I'm thinking, how can I?
00:54:29I'm getting old.
00:54:30How can I be so stupid?
00:54:32Oh, I'm sorry.
00:54:33I'm turning into MJ.
00:54:35Wait, did you mean to post that on Instagram?
00:54:37What?
00:54:38What you just posted.
00:54:40You're such a liar.
00:54:43Is this a prank?
00:54:45How do you know?
00:54:46Your heart dropped a little bit.
00:54:48Landon was like, you got scared for a second.
00:54:51I definitely did.
00:54:52How did you know?
00:54:53Oh, you and Kendall are like cool as a cucumber.
00:54:55Mom and Kim are like, yeah.
00:54:59And then didn't call us back for five minutes.
00:55:01And we were trying to call her to tell her it was a joke.
00:55:03And then she called us back five minutes later and was like, I can't find it.
00:55:07I can't find it.
00:55:07I'm like, we're kidding.
00:55:10Wait, no, mom.
00:55:11Yes.
00:55:13Oh, my goodness.
00:55:14No, you guys, you guys had me for a second.
00:55:17For a millisecond.
00:55:22That, yeah, that's a good one.
00:55:24Did you know Court and I had a great chat and her and I are amazing?
00:55:28Oh, good.
00:55:29I know.
00:55:29I love to hear that.
00:55:30I love you.
00:55:31Love you.
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00:57:09Never have I ever.
00:57:10Okay.
00:57:11Let's get crazy.
00:57:12Please.
00:57:13Never have I ever ignored a sister's call on purpose.
00:57:17Do I have to sip?
00:57:18Just a little.
00:57:19So, I have.
00:57:20Well, you're going to have to sip probably the whole thing.
00:57:23Okay.
00:57:24Googled yourself on purpose.
00:57:26Well, yeah.
00:57:27I did that today.
00:57:30Blame something I did on another sibling.
00:57:33Yes.
00:57:34Okay.
00:57:34I'm not drinking anymore.
00:57:35Yeah, you're going to be drunk.
00:57:36Okay.
00:57:36I've done that.
00:57:37Faked crying to get something I wanted.
00:57:40I mean, no.
00:57:41Maybe when I was like three.
00:57:43Okay.
00:57:44Well, you still do it.
00:57:44Okay.
00:57:45Have you ever been pulled over and got yourself out of a ticket with an excuse?
00:57:49And if so, what was the excuse?
00:57:51No.
00:57:52I haven't been pulled over in a really long time.
00:57:54Me neither.
00:57:55And when I did get pulled over, it was for the tents on my car.
00:58:00Same.
00:58:00Anyway, what do you want to ask me?
00:58:06We're done here.
00:58:07What do I want to ask you?
00:58:09Anything you want to know about me.
00:58:11Why did you name it Chloe in Wonderland?
00:58:13Because my name is Chloe.
00:58:15That's number one.
00:58:16And Wonderland is like Alice in Wonderland.
00:58:19You're falling down the rabbit hole.
00:58:21I like the strangest of topics from aliens to self-help people.
00:58:27Like from Dr. Amen to aliens.
00:58:30So there's not, it's not one category.
00:58:34Every episode will be a totally different thing.
00:58:37And I want people to go down the rabbit hole with me.
00:58:40I like that.
00:58:41And you're just in a wonderland.
00:58:43I want us to always wonder, are you a flat earther or a round earther?
00:58:48I'm a round earther, I think.
00:58:49But honestly, I haven't had much thought or much research about it.
00:58:53I'm a round earther.
00:58:54And then Rob sends me all these things about flat earthers.
00:58:57And I'm like, do I think anything's possible?
00:59:00Yes.
00:59:00Same.
00:59:01I do think anything's possible.
00:59:03I believe in mermaids.
00:59:04I'd rather not worry about it.
00:59:06Well, it's not a worry of mine too.
00:59:08Yeah.
00:59:08I agree.
00:59:09I'd rather like just live in Wonderland.
00:59:12Exactly.
00:59:12I would.
00:59:13Do I believe anything's possible?
00:59:15A hundred percent.
00:59:16Do I care enough?
00:59:19No.
00:59:19I'm surviving.
00:59:20We've all survived here for thousands of years.
00:59:22Yeah.
00:59:23Whatever the earth is.
00:59:24Whatever it's shaped like.
00:59:25We're good.
00:59:26What are we going to do?
00:59:27Kylie.
00:59:28Yeah.
00:59:28You're my bitch.
00:59:29Forever and always.
00:59:30What are we going to do?
00:59:31What is the next step for Kylie?
00:59:34Like, not to scare you.
00:59:36Okay.
00:59:37But if Kendall is 30, that means Kylie will be 30 next.
00:59:42Okay.
00:59:43Just.
00:59:44Just putting it out there.
00:59:44Yeah.
00:59:45Just like a fact is a fact.
00:59:46Okay.
00:59:47What do the 30s look like for Kylie, Kristen Jenner?
00:59:51The 30s look like my children will be 10.
00:59:58And.
00:59:58That's crazy.
01:00:00Yeah.
01:00:00I'll have a 10 year old.
01:00:02But I think my 30s and my goal for the next year.
01:00:05I have.
01:00:06I mean, Kylie Cosmetics is my baby.
01:00:09So let's like not age ourselves.
01:00:10Yeah.
01:00:11Kylie Cosmetics is my baby.
01:00:12I have some more goals, some more things that I want to do for her.
01:00:17I think that's my main focus.
01:00:18I would do another acting job if it was the right fit.
01:00:22Love.
01:00:23And I do want to get back into the studio.
01:00:26Yeah.
01:00:26I'm not saying I would release any new music, but I want to try.
01:00:31Because why not try?
01:00:33Why not enjoy life?
01:00:34Why not try and just enjoy life?
01:00:36I think that's what.
01:00:38Why not just try and just enjoy life?
01:00:41But no, that's just my.
01:00:44I think no f***s.
01:00:45If no f***s were given before, no f***s are given now.
01:00:51Not a f***.
01:00:52I love it.
01:00:52Insight.
01:00:53Not a f***.
01:00:54No, I don't really care what people have to say.
01:00:58I don't.
01:00:58This is called not a f***.
01:00:59Yeah.
01:00:59Yeah.
01:01:00I think I've had goals and dreams in my life.
01:01:03And I just.
01:01:05Why would I let anyone else's opinion stop me from f***ing living out.
01:01:12Your dreams.
01:01:12Any dreams that I have.
01:01:16Nope.
01:01:18You know what?
01:01:19Cheers to us.
01:01:20Cheers.
01:01:20And welcome.
01:01:21And thank you for being on Chloe in Wonderland.
01:01:24I love you.
01:01:25I'm so scared to see this episode.
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