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The Proof Is Out There - Season 5 Episode 18 -
Apollo 16 UFO, Radiation Burn Mystery, and Bosnian Spheres

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00:00the proof is out there did the apollo 16 astronauts spot a ufo over the moon and catch it on film
00:07people were convinced that nasa has been withholding evidence of alien life 50 years ago did
00:13something come out of the sky and leave this man with stomach burns as he got closer he smelled
00:19sulfur and saw some really bright lights his clothing and some of the soil out there were
00:24both found to be radioactive did a lost civilization harness a mysterious power in these stone spheres
00:31the ancients knew those particular shapes they are going to amplify the energy is this photo
00:38proof that a guardian angel helped a sick girl make a miraculous recovery the bottom line is
00:43miracles can happen and is this what it sounds like to go camping with bigfoot
00:49i think if these kinds of animals were out to get us there'd be very few of us left
00:55around the globe are videos
01:01photos and sounds that defy explanation
01:08we don't know where they come from who made them or how they operate what are they some sort of
01:19bizarre mutation what's exciting is nobody really knows extraordinary claims need extraordinary
01:24proof
01:24i'm tony harris and as a journalist for more than 30 years i've followed the facts where they take me
01:32now i'm bringing that spirit of investigation to the world's strangest sounds and images coming
01:38towards us we'll analyze each one with top experts it's a credible case it's a credible video
01:45and pass a verdict on what it is this video was clearly faked the proof starts now
01:52good evening and welcome to the proof is out there apollo 16 was nasa's fifth successful moon landing mission
02:08one of its primary objectives to inspect survey and collect rock in soil samples from the lunar surface
02:15but did this moon mission encounter extraterrestrial life as well and did nasa bury the truth
02:22april 25th 1972 the apollo 16 command module casper has spent a total of five days in lunar orbit
02:32circling the moon a total of 64 times but due to issues with the service module engine the crew
02:40re-docks with the command module and departs for earth one day earlier than planned as the men pull
02:48away from the moon they film a truly unexpected sight through the window
02:52a disc shaped structure appears to be moving in an unusual trajectory above the lunar surface
03:01it appears to have a dome in its center and a horizontal line or bar sticking out
03:07the camera looks away but shifts back once more in time to catch a final glimpse of the object
03:14this video has long drawn the attention of ufo enthusiasts
03:19it's understandable that people would see this and think it is a ufo
03:23this kind of has that classic circular or disc-like shape that ufos typically have
03:28but also it's at the moon we don't know a lot about the moon it's a very alien environment
03:33and people who are convinced that nasa has been withholding evidence of aliens
03:38would point to this as evidence that nasa missed hiding
03:41hang on could nasa really be hiding signs of extraterrestrial life
03:47well one of history's most esteemed astronauts said yes
03:52ed mitchell was an apollo astronaut he was the lunar module pilot on apollo 14 which meant he
03:58walked on the surface of the moon and he maintained throughout his life that nasa had evidence of
04:04alien life he was sure that there were some extraterrestrials out there that they had engaged with
04:10plus at least one expert has analyzed the footage in 2003 japanese engineer hiroshi nakamura wrote an
04:21article hypothesizing that this disc could only be an extraterrestrial object he said that it is the
04:27only explanation consistent with mission data according to nakamura's analysis the object's wobbly
04:34movement is indicative of something three-dimensional and its width estimated by comparing it to the
04:40craters on the moon could be as big as 70 miles there are a lot of questions about this footage and
04:46plenty of unknowns which kind of explains why this clip of the footage is so popular among ufo circles
04:52according to nasa people have now taken more than four million photos in space does this footage stand out
05:05among the rest as proof that something or someone is out there before making one giant leap to conclusions
05:12we check with our experts
05:14first a theory promoted by debunkers over the years this was just a glimpse of earth the reason why this
05:26could not be the earth is because the earth should be larger than what we've seen here they specifically
05:31has two circular bands unless there was a hurricane that was going around the earth at a high rate of
05:37speed there is no way that this particular object could be the earth some believe the object wasn't even
05:44really there that it was a reflection from the window but there's an easy way to tell camera reflections
05:51would be either an internal reflection or a lens flare and they have a characteristic look to them
05:57we would actually see a brightest spot and it would look like a fuzzy thing over here on the opposite side
06:03of the field it wouldn't be right next to it here it'd be across the center of the frame it looks to me
06:09like we're seeing a physical object could it truly be some sort of spacecraft like a ufo as nakamura
06:17suggested well we see one big problem with nakamura's analysis he presumed that the object was as far away
06:23as the moon and therefore huge but our analysis puts this object closer to the camera and therefore
06:29smaller when the camera moves around the object doesn't change position at all relative to the
06:36command module so what that's telling me is that this object is probably literally right outside the
06:42command module it's not very far away at all and that's not all the camera movement reveals the fact
06:48that the camera moved towards the object and then moved back i do not believe the astronaut thought that
06:54that object was that important and none of the astronauts have came out and said that they saw
06:59extraterrestrials on their mission my feeling is that this is a spotlight fixture on the command module
07:05this here is the stock with the wire this thing right here looks to me like a funnel shaped light
07:15shield to help increase the brightness and then that thing we see in the middle could be a light bulb
07:20but why would a spaceship need a spotlight on apollo 16 they had to actually go outside the command
07:29module and do what's called an eva an extra vehicular activity and when they did the eva or the
07:35spacewalk they had to use additional lighting so it was the eva floodlight housing and mount on the
07:43command module of the apollo 16. we agree with d antonio this is an eva floodlight nasa's artemis
07:55program is scheduled to land astronauts on the moon's south pole as early as 2027. if they spot anything
08:01strange we'll be sure to let you know we want to talk about another kind of ufo encounter now
08:10ones in which the eyewitness is allegedly injured unfortunately there are many accounts of such
08:16events like this one which has become one of the most famous canadian ufo incidents of all time
08:23it's may 20th 1967 after a relaxing weekend prospecting along manitoba's falcon lake
08:30emeter geologist and world war ii veteran stefan mahalik returns to his hometown of winnipeg
08:37where he immediately goes to the emergency room stefan is vomiting repeatedly fighting to remain
08:44conscious that's when his shirt is open to reveal a gruesome sight
08:48a series of dark circular burns protrude from stefan's torso in a precise grid-like pattern
08:58he was prospecting for silver and quartz when he saw two red glowing crafts in the sky
09:06one of them took off and then one of them landed so he decided to go get a closer look as he got
09:13closer he smelled sulfur and saw some really bright lights and when he reached out to touch the craft
09:19the craft began to spin and he was actually knocked down by a burst of air that set his clothes on fire
09:27a lot of people thought that this was a ufo but mahalik actually believed it was a secret military craft
09:34mahalik's youngest son stan vividly remembers the day his dad went to the er
09:42my dad who didn't want to get into it with this doctor tells him there was an aircraft accident
09:48he was scared here's a man who's been through the second war here's a man who's been to the
09:52concentration camps and he was terrified according to stan the doctors treat his father's burns but he
09:59continued to suffer from periodic blackouts swelling diarrhea and nausea all symptoms of radiation
10:06sickness the canadian government grabbed some of his clothing and some of the soil out there which
10:11were both found to be radioactive there was also radioactive metal embedded in rocks and a 15
10:17foot diameter circle that was newly devoid of any vegetation or moss the case became so big that even
10:25the u.s government pitched in to assist the investigation and some see similarities to another
10:31infamous case the 1980 rendalsham forest incident where two u.s servicemen claimed to have encountered
10:38a ufo deep within the woods near a u.s air force base in england all the radios of all the cops were
10:45kind of going nuts that something was in the forest right outside of the joint uk and united states base
10:52known as bent waters these two police officers for the air force peniston and burroughs actually go out
10:59into the forest to try to locate the downed ufo and lo and behold they find it both witnesses report not
11:09only a brilliant bright light but feeling this static charge in the air as they got close burroughs indicated
11:17to me that injuries that he sustained created havoc to his health heart complications and a loss of vision
11:25all of those are very consistent with radiation poisoning
11:28in 2015 burroughs received disability benefits for his condition which suggests that something did
11:38indeed happen to him but what about those burns on mahalic's stomach let's turn to our experts
11:44first did stefan mahalic's symptoms conform to radiation poisoning his reports say
11:55that these symptoms lasted for weeks you're really going to see those acute symptoms for two days
12:01then you have a latent period and we would have seen abnormalities in his blood work almost akin to
12:07people who undergo radiation or chemo but the reports that i reviewed showed that he had normal blood work
12:12and as far as these peculiar marks being radiation burns with radiation burns usually the zone of damage
12:20is going to be bigger it's not just going to be a small pattern to me this looks like something made
12:25contact with just that area of skin as opposed to a blast it's almost like somebody took an item like
12:32this and press it against his chest however not everyone is as skeptical this story matches so many
12:40other encounters like this where you have physical evidence and evidence of burn injuries to a human body
12:48if this is actually an injury from ionizing radiation that would imply some sort of very
12:55collimated beams of radiation unlike radiation from microwaves or radio waves ionizing radiation
13:02contains enough energy to damage living tissue you can have ionizing radiation from radio isotopes
13:09used perhaps as fuel for some sort of black ops exotic aircraft or spacecraft then there
13:17are the findings from the site investigation when the area of the siding was studied radiation was found
13:25not only in the soil but pieces of metal found in the crust vegetation in my opinion this is an
13:34unexplainable story over 50 years later this remains one of canada's greatest ufo mysteries the incident
13:42happened we have the evidence we just don't know what it was
13:46our verdict this infamous case still remains an unexplained incident unfortunately we may never get to
13:58the bottom of this story but hopefully continued research will shed more light on the alleged injury
14:04sustained during uap encounters when you think about the world's great archaeological
14:11destinations you may picture the egyptian pyramids or the greek parthenon but what if i told you there
14:18were potentially even greater wonders hiding in a little known balkan forest march 2016 near the city of
14:27zavidovich bosnia dr samir osmanagic sometimes called the bosnian indiana jones is exploring a forest
14:34a forest outside the town when he spots a strange object that immediately grabs his attention
14:41an enormous seemingly sculpted sphere is wedged into the ground standing in stark contrast to the natural
14:48wilderness surrounding it it appears to show some weathering with chips and lines on the surface but for the most part
14:54it is smoothly curved it's seemingly perfect shape has dr osmanagic wondering if something unnatural is
15:02at play you start thinking hey who are the people who are building all this it had to be much more
15:09advanced civilizations today you would need a huge pieces of equipment to shape it to move it we took
15:18precise measurements it is more than three and a half meter radius it is 37.4 tons this is by far
15:29the most massive stone sphere on the planet this bosnian sphere isn't traceable to any known civilization
15:38however there are some wild theories some people say this sphere would be evidence of a super advanced
15:44human civilization living in the area years ago that we have no idea about there were stone spheres
15:50discovered in costa rica in the 1930s they were hand carved by the disc culture between 600 and 1000
15:57a.d but they're significantly smaller than the spheres found in bosnia which are twice as heavy
16:02could an ancient civilization in the balkans have created this mysterious sphere in 2018 researchers
16:10discovered that the great pyramid of giza can concentrate electromagnetic energy at its base osmanagic claims
16:17that an advanced ancient civilization did the same thing here creating the sphere to harness energy the
16:24ancients knew that if they placed such structures in those particular shapes that they were going to amplify
16:33thick energy dr osmanagic once claimed that he'd found an ancient pyramidal complex just like the one in giza
16:45in the balkan hills again he said that this structure was the work of an advanced civilization and capable of
16:51amplifying energy osmanagic's claims have received support from the bosnian government but can we believe
16:58his claims about this mystery sphere let's ask our experts first we look into the idea that these bosnian
17:09spheres are advanced tech wielding powerful energy this one itself in in the picture you can see that
17:15there's a big missing piece of the the sphere and there's this crack here for me they're too random to be
17:25specifically carved to be a shape that can produce energy i would think that they would be perfect
17:33however when you really look at the sphere none of them are perfectly round it turns out geology and not
17:41an advanced civilization is the true force behind this massive stone the bosnian sphere is one of a
17:49a number of examples of a global phenomena called concretions these are stones sometimes they'll start
17:57around a walnut or a stick but as they roll through rivers of certain pitch that are made of mostly
18:05limestone all that particulate sticks to the ball and it rolls over time and it becomes kind of a snowball
18:15the geologic process of how these balls form is very well known it's very well documented and it's not
18:25debated there are some on the coast of japan there are some in oregon there are a few that are on the coast
18:33of new zealand there are a number of natural examples in the theodore roosevelt national park in the united
18:40states when you put those into the perspective the process is very common what's uncommon is them
18:48getting to very large size like the ones in bosnia our verdict we're going to go with concretion
18:59what makes these bosnian concretions so huge is still a mystery
19:03normandy france is known as the site of the great d-day invasion of world war ii we know the allied
19:12forces landed there but do these photos prove a ufo did too october 1989 normandy france in the early
19:22morning hours a man is trying to comfort his upset dog when suddenly he sees a large blue beam of light
19:29shoot up toward the sky in a nearby field the following day the owner of that field investigates
19:36and finds this more than 50 feet of the field appears destroyed the vegetation replaced by dark
19:45spongy soil sunken about six inches below the surrounding grass french ufo researcher baptiste
19:53free score says the strange sight becomes known as le true normal which means the norman hole people
20:02at the time considered it mysterious because suddenly after a huge light a patch of grass was burned
20:11so many thought it was a trace on the ground of a ufo landing it's easy to see why the theory caught on
20:19considering the french space agency cnes had already investigated a similar case years earlier across
20:26the country in a town called trance-en-provence one of the most intriguing events in french ufo cases
20:34happened january 8 1981 at 5 pm the witness hears a whistling a craft rushes through the trees
20:44lands 200 feet in front of him then the craft shoots up and circular traces are found on the ground
20:59a few days later the space agency collected soil samples at the site which suggested something heavy
21:05and perhaps very hot hit the ground there so did a ufo land and take off and did the same thing happen years
21:12later in 2007 france became the first country to release all of its ufo files this digital archive
21:22contains more than a thousand ufo cases including this one does that mean this is a true ufo not until
21:30our experts say so first could that flash of blue light that the eyewitness saw have come from a fire
21:40turns out there's a type of fire that can cause a pattern like this if you have very thick layers
21:46of organic material let's say like in peat bogs or in in areas where you have a lot of decked vegetation
21:53you can get these things called zombie fires peat is a kind of soil containing partially decomposed
22:00plant material making it rich in carbon and highly flammable the fires start they literally burn along the
22:06bottom and then it finally comes to a spot where it can open up to the surface and burn outwards
22:12but there's one problem with that theory zombie fires can smolder for months or even years and would
22:17have still been burning when people found it so was it a fire that started in a different way upon
22:24further investigation there was a chemical analysis done of the soil and of the grasses in here
22:31and guess what they found they found a chemical signature of kerosene and many aircraft at the
22:37time actually used kerosene as fuel so it's possible that blue glow might have been aircraft dumping fuel
22:45but that kerosene signature could also be attributed to some local history
22:52this is really near the normandy beachhead and during world war ii there were a lot of tanks and
22:57vehicles driving in that area so it would not surprise me to find a kerosene signature in the soil
23:09our verdict we're going with a kerosene fire though the source of that kerosene is still up for debate
23:15however the trans on provence case continues to be unexplained even by france's space agency and we've
23:22only begun to scratch the surface of france's ufo files who knows what we'll find next
23:30map making during the age of exploration was a feat of human ingenuity tracing the known world just
23:36as the world was becoming known but this map that we're about to show you is unlike any other it could
23:43be hundreds of years ahead of its time and perhaps not even human in origin 1929 istanbul turkey a german
23:53theologian named gustav deisman is cataloging antiquities at the top copy palace library while
23:59making his way through the material he sees this it's a faded map filled with detailed illustrations of
24:08europe africa and the americas at the bottom there appears to be a land mass depicting antarctica but
24:15there's a problem while antarctica was first spotted by explorers in the 19th century according to this
24:23text this antique map is dated 1513 what's up with that iceman found this map or the fragment of the map
24:33and being able to read the script on it he saw the name peter race peter days was an important figure in
24:41in turkish naval history at that time because he had written a book called the book of the sea he had
24:48written two different versions of it that are in different archives around the world the possibility
24:54that rays mapped antarctica some 300 years ahead of its reported discovery is already surprising but one
25:01missing detail makes this depiction even more interesting there are some who believe the map
25:07depicts antarctica without an ice cap and if that's the case that means it could be based on references
25:13that are at least 6 000 years old when the ice cap of antarctica was 160 miles away from where it
25:19currently is if that's the case it would also mean that it predates the oldest known map the amago mondi
25:25by thousands of years that's why some have suggested the map's true author wasn't pure erase at all
25:31pointing to a design element of the map as evidence some people think that this map is an example of
25:36the mercator projection a cartography technique that wouldn't actually be invented until later
25:41on in the 16th century mercator projection gives modern maps their lines of longitude and latitude
25:48the radial lines seen on the piri rays map are for some the fingerprints of the true map maker
25:56someone ahead of their time and possibly out of this world some people have taken that theory and run
26:02with it posing that the ottomans were actually in contact with aliens who gave them the details that
26:07they would need to create the map because according to them it's just too advanced for people of the 16th
26:14century to have created
26:21for years the vinland map was heralded as the earliest depiction of the new world dating from the 15th
26:27century but a recent analysis revealed it to be a fake drawn up with 20th century ink
26:34it's enough to have us asking if the piri rays map is everything that theorists claim let's ask our experts
26:44first we tackle the question of whether the true author of the map is extraterrestrial if this was
26:53something an alien had seen from above the air and was able to document it i think it would be more
26:59accurately depicted and what you see here is such a tiny fraction of what the whole of antarctica
27:05looks like there are other things about it that aren't correct like north america the caribbean
27:10isn't exactly correct i don't believe that this knowledge comes from anything extraterrestrial
27:16if aliens didn't have a hand in this map what about its allegedly advanced use of mercator projection
27:23that's not mercator it looks a bit like it but this is instead what we call a portolan map portolan means
27:31a port map and the radial patterns we see are from a fixed point where boats would navigate to
27:39hit various ports but the appearance of antarctica is at the dead center of all the questions about
27:46the piri rays map so what is it that we're looking at here starting sometime in the 15th 16th century
27:5517th century there was more and more talk that there must be some other continent to the south of us
28:01they called it terra australis it was actually a concept that came all the way back from the greeks
28:08the greeks also thought there must be some sort of continent down there but enough people talked
28:13about it where people were putting it theoretically on maps the terra australis explanation also sheds
28:21light on why there's no ice cap on this map's antarctica some people suggested that it was a picture of
28:29antarctica before it was iced over and that's an interesting possibility but we now have the
28:37technology to look under the ice and see where the actual landforms are it is nothing like what's
28:43portrayed in this map
28:50our verdict we're looking at terra australis
28:53this isn't the work of aliens just an example of a skilled cartographer attempting to map out the
28:59unknown and speaking of the unknown what on earth is this thing right here a dinosaur a mythical sea
29:07creature maybe that's a mystery for another time in a 2007 survey 57 of catholics 66 of evangelicals
29:18and 10 percent of jews reported having a personal experience with a guardian angel could this next
29:24story be proof they really do exist november 2008 charlotte north carolina colleen banton is at
29:32the bedside of her chronically ill 14 year old daughter chelsea chelsea is battling severe pneumonia
29:38and she's attached to a ventilator doctors have told colleen they are running out of options
29:44as colleen prays a nurse calls her attention to a nearby security monitor and that's when colleen
29:50sees something extraordinary on the screen she takes out her camera and photographs the monitor
29:56capturing this a bright spot is flaring in front of the doors to the pediatric icu
30:02it resembles a human figure with wings i said it looks like an angel but i've never seen anything like
30:11this i looked down the hall i don't see it there you could only see it in the tv monitor that was in
30:18there so i was blown away it stayed there for probably an hour or so again it's only visible on
30:27the computer screen not the wall itself colleen calls what happened next with her daughter a miracle
30:33and when they took her off with the machine all of her stats were perfect she was fine she didn't
30:40have to go back on the ventilator or anything even the doctor said that's from that angel that angel
30:47healed her and not just an angel a guardian angel the idea that every person has their own specific
30:54guardian angel is a common christian belief the idea that there is one angel perhaps assigned to them
30:59to look out for them in times of need in the christian tradition and the jewish tradition and even in
31:05the islamic tradition in the hadith we see angels being created from light stories within these
31:13religious traditions support colleen's belief that a divine healing power saved her daughter we see
31:20stories of jesus curing those people who are crippled those people who are blind and restoring them
31:26back to health we see numerous stories of angels exhibiting their healing powers for example in the
31:32gospel of john we see the stirring of the pool of bethesda so healing miracles are prominent in the
31:38bible we have as many as 36 million hospital admissions a year 140 million emergency room
31:46admissions so it's not surprising that people of faith would assume that there would be angelic events
31:52happening in a hospital itself in a previous episode we brought you the story of an alleged angel that
32:00saved a driver from a potentially horrific suv crash in that case our experts were stumped but what's going
32:07on here since this is an image of an image is it possible that the light we're seeing is simply the flash
32:18from colleen's camera it's definitely not it's embedded within the display you can see the lines of the
32:25monitor within that image so this is definitely not a flash there is something occurring within that
32:30space there is something that the camera is seeing the big question is whether the source of this light
32:37is divine or not i can't confirm or deny what the source of that light is but these doors appear to be a
32:43jar could they have influenced the light within that region to reflect or refract information up onto that
32:50corner to demonstrate the shape of something there's a number of components that can result in error
32:55create artifacts and we see this a lot in surveillance technology some surveillance cameras and digital
33:01sensors can see beyond the spectrum of light visible to the human eye so it's possible that whatever's
33:06beaming into this space when the doors open might go unseen by people at the hospital the source of the
33:13light remains unknown but what's undeniable is the miraculous timing of chelsea's recovery it's remarkable
33:19that so many things happened at exactly the right time the fact that she didn't die she came back
33:26so the bottom line is miracles can happen they are rare that's why they're called miracles i think
33:33after everything is said and done there's simply not enough data to make a definitive conclusion
33:39our verdict unexplained phenomenon we may not have definitive proof about the source of that image
33:51but we do have a story of miraculous recovery chelsea was able to make it home weeks after her mom took
33:57the picture just in time for christmas she brought absolute joy to her family but unfortunately in the
34:04following years her health issues got worse and she passed away in 2015 at the age of 21.
34:13did you know that our national forest service manages a whopping 193 million acres of land
34:21that's almost nine percent of the country so is it really so hard to believe that bigfoot could be
34:27living somewhere in there april 28 2009 we're in north carolina's uari national forest bigfoot researcher
34:36mike green has set up thermal imaging cameras to record through the evening he says he's encountered
34:41bigfoot in this forest before and he's determined to capture it on film after leaving the cameras
34:47unattended for a few hours he returns to see that they've recorded this the thermal imagery makes it hard to
34:55identify but if we push in and enhance the footage we can clearly see a large humanoid figure skulking
35:02between the trees green estimated the figure to be over seven and a half feet tall the technique of
35:09putting out a recorder or the camera and then leaving the area it frankly makes a lot of sense sasquatches
35:16are paranoid enough and if there's a person lurking around they're going to be acting differently than
35:22they would if they were alone then nearly 10 years later in 2018 another bigfoot researcher
35:29matt hooper of the carolina cryptid field research team set up audio equipment in the same forest i
35:35started hearing the stories of what other people were encountering out there so i went out there for
35:40five days with a friend i had my recorders going as usual and when matt checks them the following morning
35:46he captured a howl in the distance
35:55then another roar that seems to overlap with other howls it's hard to hear so we'll pump up the volume
36:01you see it the spikes on the the waveform and his thing is moving through the tree line
36:19hooper wouldn't tell us where in the forest he recorded the sound which is standard practice among
36:24bigfoot researchers i don't share my best spots for the same reason i don't share my best fishing spots
36:29um i don't want people going in there and planting evidence and trying to hoax me do these overlapping
36:35howls suggest multiple creatures possibly staking claim to their territory stories from the past
36:41suggest that sasquatch are indeed territorial take the case of port lock alaska the prime peninsula that
36:49was chock full of valuable game and shellfish was found mysteriously abandoned by the local natives
36:55who told stories about people being torn apart by the nanti nook or hairy men an attempt made in the
37:021920s to industrialize the area failed after continued disappearances and strange animal attacks prompted
37:10all the townsfolk to flee leaving the area deserted to this very day seeing one of these things must be
37:17horrifying especially this chasing you out of an area but i argue that these kinds of animals are not
37:24overtly aggressive because i think if they were out to get us there'd be very few of us left
37:33going back to that footage from 2009 mike green the man who collected it said whatever was in the video
37:40stole two things from his camp a zag nut candy bar and a squeaky toy that belonged to his grandchildren
37:47this is why many people now call this the squeaky thermal
37:51could these recordings be proof that beasts are lurking somewhere within the uari national forest
37:58let's talk to the experts
38:04let's start by taking a closer look at mike green's thermal video i am impressed by the shape of the head
38:10it has a kind of receding brow to a high point posteriorly that is a characteristic of hominoids
38:17lacking a large brain they don't have the prominent forehead that a human skull would have
38:22still the image is too ambiguous to be convincing proof by itself what about the audio recording
38:34there does not seem to be any edits or any discrepancies that would lead me to believe that
38:39there was uh anything tampered in the recording it appears to be an authentic recording many people
38:45thought these could just be coyotes so we compare the sounds
38:48it's not a coyote next we compare the recording to the so-called ohio howls recorded in columbiana
39:07county ohio in 1994. some bigfoot researchers consider it to be the genuine sound of a bigfoot howling and
39:14disturbing local dogs
39:29the ohio howls have this change of frequency the sounds from the uh huari recording have a very
39:35constant frequency they're from different sources so if that's not a match then what are we hearing
39:41although the exact location of the recording is unknown one clue might be an important landmark just
39:48several miles outside of the uari forest that's the north carolina zoo one of the questions would be
39:56how far away from the zoo could it be if there isn't much wind probably we could hear a zoo animal
40:02perhaps up to half a mile away so we don't have a way of knowing exactly what the sound source is here this
40:08would be from some other origin something worthy of investigation
40:16our verdict we're calling this one an unexplained sound both the video and audio recording weren't
40:23enough for our experts to come to a conclusion so if there is a monster lurking in the uari national
40:30forest it will remain anonymous until further investigation and that's our show for tonight thank
40:35you so kindly for watching and keep those cameras rolling
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