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00:00I first set my eyes on sweet Molly Malone
00:05As she wheeled her wheelbarrow
00:08Through the streets broad and narrow
00:10Crying cockles and mussels
00:13Alive, alive, oh!
00:16Alive, alive, oh!
00:19Alive, alive, oh!
00:21Crying cockles and mussels
00:24Alive, alive, oh!
00:27She was a fishmonger
00:30And sure was no wonder
00:32For so was her father
00:35I'm here in my hometown of Dublin
00:37And I'm trying to find the connection
00:39Between our Irish language and song
00:43After travelling the world
00:45I've always felt this fire in me
00:47A need to explore Irish through music
00:50It's something I've felt
00:52Removed from for most of my life
00:54In some way or another
00:56So now I want to learn it
00:58To live it
00:59To sing it
01:00I'd love to carry a handful of songs with me
01:04Songs that I can learn that will stay with me
01:07For all of me life
01:08I want to meet some of our Irish singing legends
01:11To listen
01:12And to learn from them
01:14Cause it's all belonging to us
01:17It's not a them and an us
01:19It truly is
01:20An us
01:21Alive, alive, oh!
01:23Alive, alive, oh!
01:25Alive, alive, oh!
01:27Crying cockles and mussels
01:30Alive, alive, oh!
01:34Miss Devine had been very brown
01:36She was!
01:40Good morning!
01:42I'm delighted that you're here chatting with me
01:45Because I'm on this discovery, if you like
01:48I'm questioning lots of things
01:50But also myself, you know, I'm wondering
01:53In Irish
01:55And learning Irish
01:57And speaking
01:59On scale
02:00And my fear of it
02:01And the shame that comes in with it
02:03And the...
02:05Afraid to make you show yourself
02:07Was it negative for you?
02:08I think you summed it up by saying the word shame
02:11The shame
02:12That you're up against Irish speakers
02:14And that you can't even string a sentence with them
02:17And now, as an older person
02:19The shame of, oh my god
02:21Why didn't I take an interest?
02:23Like, what was in my head that I was embarrassed?
02:27I was embarrassed by the Irish language
02:29I'd be scarlet for them talking Irish
02:31Scarlet
02:32So you saw...
02:33Yeah, I saw scarlet for them that they think they're great
02:35I always found it was more a country thing
02:38Yeah
02:39Do you know what I mean?
02:40And not Dublin
02:41People, you know
02:42The mullahs, we'd say
02:43The mullahs up talking Irish
02:44But you know
02:45And even the teachers in school were always
02:47There was never a Dublin person
02:49Oh, that's true
02:50Never
02:51Yeah
02:52That was relatively new
02:53So Irish wasn't
02:55Important
02:56A priority to getting ahead in life
02:58Yeah
02:59At that time
03:00So what about
03:02What about
03:03Because I wish Dad was still here
03:05Yeah
03:06To talk
03:07Mum always prayed in Irish
03:08Mum
03:09And she would bring us up
03:10Mum always said
03:11The Hail Mary and the Afal in Irish
03:12As far
03:13As long as I remember
03:14That's where I learned it from
03:15That was one thing that Mum did
03:17She would not fill out a form
03:19Yeah
03:20She didn't want to give aunt away
03:21But she'd do it in Irish
03:22Oh
03:24Do you remember that?
03:26You do
03:27I do, yeah
03:28There was a huge amount of secrecy
03:30To giving out information
03:32Because of the history
03:33Within the freedom
03:34Granny was
03:35In coming home
03:36Yeah
03:37Grandad was in feeing a errands
03:38You keep your mouth shut
03:39You don't tell everybody
03:40Because they would remember
03:41People getting
03:42Beaten for speaking Irish
03:44Yeah
03:45So bullets in the walls
03:46Of the
03:47Of the blackened towns
03:48Going down the street
03:49That would take a pot shot
03:50So if you were
03:51Speaking Irish
03:52Yeah
03:53You were
03:54You were a target
03:55Do you know that the Liberties
03:56Was a Gaeltacht
03:57Because a lot of the people
03:58That came to the Liberties
03:59They were living outside the pale
04:01And they all spoke Irish
04:03Because they came from
04:04The rest of the country
04:05Yeah
04:06Do you have any bits of advice
04:07That you'd give me
04:08As you know
04:09My
04:10My family and
04:12Friends
04:13And
04:14You know
04:15From the inner city
04:16And our experience
04:17Heading out
04:18It would be great to find out
04:19Not just
04:20What the songs meant
04:21You know
04:22Your pronunciation
04:23To be able to carry them forward
04:24And we'll know
04:25And we'll have knowledge
04:26That we should have had all along
04:27What I'd like
04:28From your journey
04:29To happen
04:30Is to unify us
04:32Because there was always
04:33The Dublin Jackines
04:34And the Cullgeys
04:35And we were always enemies
04:37You know
04:38So
04:39If I
04:40Head off
04:41And
04:42Try to learn
04:44Like I'm terrified
04:45You know
04:46Obviously
04:47I'm
04:48I'm going out of my comfort zone
04:49But if I was to learn
04:50Put yourself out there
04:51Yeah
04:52Yeah
04:53Yeah
04:54And
04:55And
04:56Being that
04:57Child
04:58That you don't want to make a show of yourself
04:59You don't want to get a slap
05:00If I was to learn one
05:02And
05:03Or
05:04To
05:05To come back
05:06With a song
05:07That I thought
05:08Maybe a lullaby
05:09Or
05:10Something that we'd be able to
05:11To sing
05:12Would you come and join me
05:13Would you be up for that
05:14Love it
05:15That'd be brilliant
05:16I'd love that
05:17Yeah
05:18And the roles are reversed in Melda
05:19Because I used to teach you
05:20When you were a little kid
05:21And now you're
05:22You're going to teach me
05:23Oh
05:24That's gorgeous
05:25We're looking forward to that
05:26We're looking forward to that
05:27Wish you luck
05:28As you wave me goodbye
05:30Well good luck on your journey
05:31And we're very proud of you
05:33Thank you
05:34Thank you
05:35Thank you
05:36Thank you
05:37Thank you
05:38There were levels of destruction in Asia.
05:41And the government was only waslarınale.
05:45So, the government was one of the great places.
05:47If they were 2000 years old and they were only in one place...
05:51..well, they would be like 3,000 people.
05:53But then we would be like 3,000 people.
05:55I think they went to college.
05:56They would love to get to college at a greater time.
05:59But the government would want to get to college because of our government.
06:03but I'll keep doing it at the same time,
06:06which you can see.
06:10But still, one time ago, I found a person
06:13that I've only got into a person
06:15and I've only got a person
06:17but I've also got into a person
06:20with a person
06:21and I have to go in front of someone
06:23with a reason.
06:25My person is very safe
06:30and there are a lot of potential
06:32It's been a long time for me,
06:35it's been a long time for me,
06:37and it's been a long time for me.
06:40But I've never been here for a long time.
06:42I've been here for a long time
06:44and I've been here for a long time.
06:53The quest, the journey, the voyage.
06:59While I'm in the middle of it,
07:00I'll be writing down names of people I should know
07:03or names of people I need to remember,
07:05or songs or, you know,
07:09meanings of words that I don't want to forget.
07:13And as I was here, I wanted to, you know,
07:15write down something off-scale.
07:19But when I come to this,
07:21I can't even write one word down.
07:23I have such...
07:26I just have this awful feeling,
07:28and don't make a show of yourself.
07:32And that's a terrible relationship to have
07:34with your own language.
07:35It's definitely a child
07:39afraid to be...
07:40to get it wrong.
07:41So, all the more reason for me doing this,
07:44and all the more reason for me
07:46heading off on this journey to learn,
07:49not just about language,
07:50but to learn about, you know,
07:53heritage,
07:56songs, you know,
07:57just to be able to put me down in the water
08:02without fear of drowning.
08:03I don't think so.
08:15It's a good place to start.
08:15place to start.
08:42Liam, I
08:44adore you.
08:48So we've known each other a long, long time.
08:50You've been, I suppose, a rock for me
08:54within something that I've been naturally uncovering
08:59for myself within the Irish language.
09:03So can you tell me first off, as a doe,
09:09how you're so in touch and how come you have the language
09:16and you're fluent in it and I don't?
09:19I think we, the Irish people, can let ourselves a little bit off the hook.
09:25I think people feel shame and also they're looking at this mountain.
09:30Oh God, I've never learned this. I mean, I wish I could.
09:33Yeah, I remember it was a penny dropped.
09:36That this shame that I had, and I still have it.
09:39And I'm, you know, I'm learning language, learning Irish and every time I go to speak the language,
09:46I'm making so much progress on my own, on my own at home.
09:50The words are popping into me head.
09:53But I get so embarrassed to speak around you or anyone else.
09:57It goes back inside me.
10:00I don't want to make a show of meself or, you know.
10:03And there's so much pressure.
10:06Not from anybody.
10:08And I feel it.
10:09But there are times even I feel that kind of not good enough.
10:14Not good enough. That's it. Totally.
10:17And that's, that's, what does that serve really?
10:21Who knows what's that, what that is serving, that idea.
10:24Yeah.
10:25Yeah.
10:26There's a panic in me.
10:27You can feel it.
10:28There's a, you know.
10:29Yeah.
10:30It's, it's, it's, it's energy.
10:31It's energy.
10:32Yeah.
10:33There's a, there's a, there's a passion.
10:34There's a, there's a, I feel like I'm in a hurry.
10:36Mm.
10:37I'm in a hurry.
10:38It's been too long.
10:40And, er.
10:42But you know, also, the language comes up through the people.
10:46Playfulness is at the heart of our, of the language.
10:49Playfulness.
10:50I think if you, in person, like, the sounds.
10:55Oh, my shit.
10:57Well, though.
10:58Have fun with the, with, and also the pronunciation is, I think, is almost more important than vocabulary.
11:05Okay.
11:06Her nonce.
11:07Have fun with impersonating.
11:09Your language that you speak, your daily language, that's Irish.
11:12That is Irish.
11:14So.
11:15In a way.
11:16I mean.
11:17No, I know.
11:18It's the way you, you work it and lilt it and dance it.
11:20It's.
11:21It'll, it'll always reclaim us.
11:23It's our music.
11:24It's our bird song.
11:25Ginnáirí let.
11:26Our mugglt.
11:27Well it's a rugglt.
11:29But I'm in a kind of a ball.
11:31She's a boher.
11:34Coop the fuckl.
11:35Well, I'll try me best.
11:37Yeah.
11:38Along the way to keep.
11:39Coop the fuckl.
11:40Mm.
11:41And just bein tainaf as, you know.
11:42Bein tainaf as, joit.
11:44Yeah.
11:45I'd like to learn more about the tradition of Irish singing in Dublin.
12:02How it developed over time.
12:04And I'd like to visit the places today where people can go to sing.
12:09I heard about this fabulous place.
12:11On the goal lane, Singers Club.
12:13Took the way.
12:14Up in the teachers club.
12:15On Parnell Square.
12:16They say if you wanna hear the real stuff.
12:18Unaccompanied.
12:19That's where you go.
12:24From the last one,
12:25to the new song and to the new song,
12:26the new song has happened to the new song.
12:28In the old song,
12:29the new song was a belong song.
12:31The new song would be a big song for the new song.
12:32And the new song was a part of a new song.
12:36And the new song was a big song.
12:38And a huge song was made.
12:39and I was a man of tea and tea and tea,
12:45and I was a man to do it with a lot of tea.
12:47And I was a man to do it with a lot of tea,
12:51and a lot of tea, and a lot of tea.
12:54And it was a lot of fun to do this with my band.
13:09Jeanette.
13:10Oh, I love it.
13:12Charlotte, not so sweet.
13:15Isn't that gorgeous?
13:16You know, from your Irish that you all have,
13:19is that from your parents that you were brought up with?
13:22Or did you just pay attention in school?
13:27I didn't really grow up speaking Irish
13:30other than the bit that you learn in school,
13:32so to then learn Irish through songs
13:36definitely feels empowering for me,
13:39for someone who didn't grow up speaking Irish.
13:42It's sort of giving it back to me a little bit.
13:45Yeah, I totally get that.
13:47I think in Ireland, it's one thing I love
13:49is that when somebody starts singing,
13:51it's, shh, cionis, cionis, let the hull,
13:54and there's a reverence
13:57that I think is such a wonderful thing.
14:00Yeah.
14:01It doesn't matter if you're a brilliant singer
14:02or you can just about string a melody together
14:04in a badly roaring voice.
14:06It's about carrying the songs on
14:07and the stories and the universality
14:09that are in those stories
14:10that have made them last.
14:12To be in the teacher's club on a Friday night
14:15and to just be, have a place where you can be present
14:18and listen and hear a story.
14:21You know, there's a famous line from a poem
14:25that's often said in the club that all the songs
14:27are living ghosts and long for a living voice.
14:31and when we're here listening,
14:33it's like you're getting to hear these,
14:35these ghosts come alive through the singer
14:39and we're hearing these stories
14:41and, but it's all happening in the present moment.
14:44I love that. It's gorgeous.
14:47to learn from the people who died
14:49when they died,
14:50it's like you're getting to do good.
14:55With a way that all the songs
14:57are up to the people
14:59and the voices
15:00and their voices are up to the people
15:02and the voices of the people
15:04who are in the profession
15:05and the voices of the people
15:07and the voices of the people
15:10I'm proud and well, I'm proud and well, I'm proud and well.
15:17I'm about to have my first meeting with Sian Nose expert and singer, Lillis O'Leary.
15:23It's time to learn more about the art form itself and to really start to prepare to sing in that style.
15:30The style of the art form of the art form and the art form of the art form of Sian Nose is as a result of the art form.
15:43For example, I've had a lot of art form in Sian Nose, but the art form of the art form of Sian Nose is a very powerful art form to be a part of the art form of art form.
15:56and he was a very great coach that he was in the Gaelian.
16:02He was very fortunate and wasn't able to do anything.
16:07And he didn't know if it was just a mistake while he was in the school.
16:11He was also in the middle and there was a lot of work at the school.
16:14And when he was on the school, he was in the middle of the school.
16:20But I was also a good teacher and a good teacher.
16:24...and I was a young man who was a young man who was a young man.
16:54I always felt a shame that I didn't know.
16:58Right.
16:59And I'm accepting that it's not all my fault.
17:04Now you're talking.
17:06Now you're talking.
17:08So I have to throw off that cloak of shame now.
17:11Yeah.
17:12Did you sing me a wee snatch or something now?
17:14No, I can't.
17:15You can't?
17:16I can't.
17:17Why is that?
17:19This is what I come up with.
17:21There's a major wall.
17:22A wall?
17:23We're talking about climbing over the wall or are we talking about breaking down the wall?
17:28Breaking down the wall.
17:29Okay.
17:30If you were sort of caught up in the shame you couldn't make that step.
17:35So it's a sign that you're moving away from that and towards something to do something about it.
17:41To actually be active towards this material that you already know some of.
17:47There are plenty of Dubliners and people from all over Ireland that aren't in the Grailtocht that speak fabulous Irish.
17:57That's right.
17:58But I suppose I'm trying to represent those of us who feel left behind.
18:02Yeah.
18:03And you feel so far behind that you don't know where to catch up.
18:07And I think it's all over the world.
18:09That's true.
18:10A lot of people feel that.
18:11And maybe even more so when you move away.
18:14The people where I grew up, a lot of them think that Irish is just a burden for them.
18:19Tell me about that.
18:20They don't really.
18:21Tell me.
18:22Well, they were so poor and they felt left out because they couldn't speak English in the past.
18:29I know.
18:30I didn't know that.
18:31Yeah.
18:32So that, that, that, that feeling is on both sides.
18:36Yeah.
18:37I did not know that.
18:39Exactly.
18:40Especially in the 19th century after the famine, they were going to school and they were, the school was all through English.
18:46They had hardly, could hardly speak English and they always felt that Irish was keeping them back.
18:53Irish was a barrier to progress.
18:56Unfortunately, there's a lot of trauma around both languages.
19:00Yeah.
19:01In the country.
19:02So, singing is one way to get around that.
19:06You learn one and you go on and then you learn more and then ten years later you realise how little you know.
19:12Yeah.
19:13And you learn more again and your, your perspective shifts.
19:16Yeah.
19:17As time goes on.
19:18Yeah.
19:19And, er, so on until today.
19:21If I go, er, I want to try and pick a song for each area.
19:28Yeah.
19:29To represent each area.
19:30To begin with, you know, as a starting point.
19:32Yeah.
19:33So will you help me?
19:34I will.
19:35Will you help me with that?
19:36I will.
19:37We're looking at songs and you're going to, I know that you're going to travel around.
19:40Yes.
19:41And meet different people in different parts of the country.
19:43And, er, that you're thinking about Waterford and, and Cork and Kerry and Galway and Donegal and South Armagh.
19:54So it's a, it's a, it's a bit of a, an odyssey really.
20:00Yeah.
20:01Oh.
20:02So you have to expect that on your journey that you're going to meet maybe the same song.
20:05But if you heard it sung and you didn't know the words, you might think it was a different song.
20:10Oh.
20:11Oh.
20:12Because it's an oral tradition.
20:13Yeah.
20:14And it has to be appreciated in the hearing.
20:18Yes.
20:19So this is a song called Donalag that is known in every Geltath in the country.
20:26These songs have become organic in the communities that they're sung in.
20:30They change from place to place.
20:33So even that verse is known everywhere, but there are certain words there that you wouldn't find anywhere else.
20:40Yeah.
20:41So that sticks that version, it joins that version to the community.
20:46Beautiful.
20:47that it's sung in.
20:48That's beautiful.
20:49And they'd be arguments, then, about who has the best version, and who is right.
20:52I'll call you.
20:53And who's right.
20:54I'll call you.
21:09SINGER HILLS
21:35That's very moving now to have to say that.
21:38Thanks for singing, you're very game, you're very game all together.
21:44I know you want to do this.
21:46I do, you want to.
21:48So, take me with you and don't forget me.
21:51Beel me heynlaat.
21:53Beel me heynlaat.
21:55Isnaajan Jaramud.
21:57Beel me heynlaat.
22:02Isnaajan Jaramud.
22:06Isnaajan Jaramud.
22:08Beel me heynlaat.
22:12Isnaajan Jaramud.
22:16Now, what do you think of that?
22:19I do.
22:20Thank you very much.
22:22Thank you very much.
22:24I've got my homework to do.
22:26I'm so happy with that.
22:28It's such a beautiful song and I'm feeling it.
22:31You sing it so well and you've been really patient.
22:34No, no, you've been really a great pupil.
22:38Your voice is amazing and your dedication too.
22:42You've already started.
22:44You did your preparation before you came here.
22:46Give me great confidence in your ability.
22:52I'm really nervous.
22:54But also very excited.
22:56This is a long time coming.
22:59And I'm ready.
23:00Let's be having you.
23:02I'm ready to learn.
23:04I'm ready to open the doors of the gale talks and see what's ahead of me.
23:10Bring it on.
23:12Next week I go to Waterford to learn about the difficulties of preserving the Irish language.
23:24And despite all obstacles, how they've kept the oral history alive through song.
23:30Those songs were all over rural Ireland.
23:34But then as the Irish language retreated into the great areas, the songs disappeared.
23:42As an Irish people, we had no history.
23:45Those in power write the history and those who suffer write the songs.
23:48I think that our oral traditions are kind of often overlooked.
24:06Those in power write the work of
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