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00:00The arrest is the pivotal moment in any investigation if you get it wrong, then it's game over
00:17Police officer with a taser
00:30Everything they're doing is on body warm video
00:43Everything they're doing would be examined by defense lawyers
00:49They can't make any mistakes
01:00It's nine days after one of britain's biggest riots of summer 2024
01:18Now police prepare to arrest one of the ringleaders
01:23The risk assessment would have been high
01:25I would estimate six officers going to arrest him because we don't know what would have been faced with
01:32We don't know if he'd have known this was coming and prepared himself
01:36So they're not going to take any chances
01:40Thomas burley had attacked officers as he tried to burn down a hotel now police had found him
01:48Hey put your hands out for us
01:50What's your name? Thomas burley
01:53He was involved in some of the worst of the violence
01:56Thomas uh you're in the arrest okay for violent disorder and ask him in the tent to cause danger okay
02:01Did you ask anything but it may have made a fair to mention my question
02:03Something if you're late like I'm caught
02:04Can you do a safe and never give an evidence
02:06At the end of the day this is somebody who's just tried to burn a hotel down and chucked weapons at officers
02:12So that shows how hostile he is towards officers
02:17Thomas burley was a
02:2027 year old who was from nearby he was from a place called swinton in rotherham in south yorkshire and
02:27He'd gone because he wanted to voice his opinion. That's what he told a
02:32probation officer
02:35He was part of a group who smashed the lower windows of the holiday inn
02:39And he was also part of a group who helped put fuel on a fire that was up against the fire door of the hotel
02:47He climbed up onto railings
02:53And he helped grab wood and place it into an industrial bin that was now burning up against that fire door
03:00There were people on the other side of that fire door
03:03They heard their fire alarms going off they could smell the smoke
03:06In evidence in court they said that they feared they were going to die
03:10The background to nine days of riots was a crime that broke the nation's heart
03:35Some breaking news merseyside police are attending a major incident in south port in which a number of people are reported
03:51seriously injured
03:53a teenager carrying a large kitchen knife entered a taylor swift themed yoga and dance workshop for six to eleven year olds
04:01It was the start of the school summer holidays
04:0526 children were attending
04:12Three girls are dead in south port after being attacked by a man brandishing a knife
04:18Elsie dot stancom age seven alice da silva aguirre aged nine
04:24And bb king aged six died despite strenuous efforts by police and paramedics
04:31Eight other children and two adults are being treated for serious injuries the suspect was arrested at the scene
04:40It was probably one of the most horrendous incidents in living memory that then set off a chain of events in south port
04:47A false report spreads on social media that the killer is a muslim asylum seeker
05:02Within 24 hours peaceful tributes to the victims give way to violence
05:07immigration is a genuine concern for the uk
05:18and a lot of what we saw within those riots
05:20i think was motivated from the false information that was provided over social media about
05:27certain individuals involved
05:29police and government couldn't keep up with the speed of false stories circulating online
05:34the use of social media and the false rumor mill that occurred
05:41did add a level of manipulation to people's mindsets and of course
05:45what happened in that vacuum of information in the very short hours in the days following what happened in southport
05:50it gave them something to hold on to it gave them somebody to blame
05:55and as a result of that they felt justified they felt morally justified to behave in that way
06:01in southport a crowd targets a local mosque trapping nine people inside
06:09we've seen protesters a crowd here throwing objects at a mosque that is just on the corner of this junction here
06:16they've been clashing now violently with police throwing objects at the police clashing with officers in riot gear
06:22and this really is a very tense situation it's the start of two days of violence in southport that will see 71 police officers injured
06:34this is high quality media footage which shows clearly people's faces and those throwing rocks and things at the police
06:42and it shows how a huge group of mainly young men are attacking far fewer police officers
06:50the police officers have deployed shields they've got uh riot vans there but they're simply being pushed back
06:56and we see that the crowd have attacked one vehicle and managed to set it on fire
07:01highly dangerous considering that vehicles are full of fuel in a crowded area
07:06walls or buildings have been attacked to uh take bricks down so those bricks can be used as weapons
07:15against the police and we see officers being dragged away have obviously been injured
07:23and the sad thing is that the many of these officers would have been involved in investigating the murder
07:28and may well have seen the the awfulness of that crime and know the face being attacked
07:38tv news shows rioters acting with little fear of the law notably few arrests but for good reason
07:46mostly during a riot the first consideration is to try and safely contain the riots and that public
07:52disturbance where it is officers have the option and the ability to arrest people if they need to but
08:01there are some significant issues involved in arresting somebody during a riot situation having to arrest
08:08an individual or a group of people takes important team members away from that front line
08:15so you have 10 officers trying to deal with hundreds of people they're utterly outnumbered
08:19they simply have to retreat but that just sends the wrong message out to the public who think the
08:25police are afraid and of course it's it emboldens the the rioters in those circumstances the main
08:32thing is to contain it the moment an officer makes an arrest that officer and several others may be
08:37taken out of the actual squad that are dealing with that the riot as it is
08:41soon fueled by wrong information riots will break out in 27 towns and cities
09:01in darlington the dilemma for police is clear when confronted by one rioter throwing rocks
09:07here we see some excellent work with between the cctv operator and officers on the ground
09:16and help with that one car park saint auguston's way uh in gladstone street is a male with a body
09:22warmer great body warmer blue head overall blue shorts white socks black trainers he is a suspect
09:29who would be looking to arrest can you uh get a hold of him on camera
09:39you can see straight away he's not a very good throat because the brick has gone in a completely
09:43different direction which instantly highlights just how reckless that is that's gone towards
09:47somebody's house
09:52the police are almost they're stuck between a rock and a hard place themselves because
09:55if they fail to address his behavior at this early moment when there aren't many people on the
10:01streets they run the risk that his behavior in fact motivates those around him to continue the same
10:07behavior
10:13if they do try and arrest this male though they also run the risk that that causes motivation for those
10:19around him to then shadow the baby that he's doing so a decision has been made to arrest here
10:38they've technically gone out and snatched him they've arrested him
10:40some of those officers are controlling him on the ground
10:50of course one minute this this individual is happy to throw rocks at police and the next minute he's on
10:54the floor screaming
11:00he's cuffed detained some rigid cuffs are put on him and driving off anybody else who tries to interfere
11:10he's on the ground
11:12notice what's happened though in arresting him what's happened to the
11:16demeanor of the crowd they've used this now as an excuse to get angrier
11:20to aim the anger at the police
11:27so the police are now in a difficult situation
11:29after his arrest the 18 year old rioter is jailed for 18 months
11:45but elsewhere police face even bigger decisions to make arrests or save lives
11:59as social media spreads false information about the southport murders rotherham in south yorkshire
12:10is the next big flashpoint
12:16the police became aware of a protest and the potential counter-protest at the holiday inn
12:21the hotel is housing more than 200 people seeking asylum in the uk
12:33it was widely known that there are asylum seekers being housed there there had been previous
12:38demonstrations in the past those demonstrations had largely gone off peacefully
12:46a proportion of policing response was put in based on the intelligence that we received
12:51a lot of people that we received a lot of people that we received a lot of people that we
13:08didn't think it was going to be there in some serious numbers
13:11and there was then a sort of growing swell of anger it was like what we say in the police it was bubbling
13:24it's like boiling water it's starting to go it's starting to sort of tip over the edge and then it
13:29quickly turned into the mob rule and the disgraceful violence and aggression that that we saw
13:39the police had just started to close the main road you can smell a fire you can smell the smoke
14:01smoke and the closer you get to the hotel the more people are there and there were just hundreds and
14:09hundreds of people
14:14you could see the line of police surrounding the hotel
14:19you could see the smashed windows
14:21the noise was one of people shouting people screaming the police shouting
14:34and the fire alarms going off as well inside the hotel the fire alarms telling people that you have
14:39to leave and obviously people weren't leaving
14:42it was almost like a war zone
14:54so that building goes up and you then got 200 250 people inside and those people die
15:01then we're looking at a mass murderer or we're looking at a team of mass murderers here who've done
15:05this and to think about treating other human beings like that as well as our officers is absolutely
15:10important they thought well no one likes the police anyway so one was doing a public service here and
15:16attacking them and that's the shocking part of it a lot of people went in there as a way
15:24to gather weapons that would then be used against officers there were police inside the hotel
15:31protecting sort of like an inner cordon effectively inside the property people were inside that
15:37building worried for their lives the staff in panic rooms scared about what was happening
15:45and the police i'm sure had one priority in that and that was safety once again rioters appear beyond
15:53the law no one is being seen to be arrested very quickly it became obvious that those officers
16:01in rotherham were far outnumbered and their own priorities would have very quickly changed to
16:08keep themselves safe whilst trying at the same time to provide a layer of protection to those people
16:12within the hotel the truth there was that they were just as vulnerable at times as those in the hotel
16:22those officers were in a very very dangerous position
16:24to be blunt i was terrified some people were going to be killed some of our officers were going to be
16:31killed as well as the people in the hotel there were a number of police horses there and they were
16:37using the dogs as well to keep people away and the horses were being sent through the crowds to try
16:43and disperse them and when the horses came through it was followed by bottles stones bricks anything that
16:51people could grab they threw outnumbered the police use video to help arrest rioters you've got the
17:02evidence gatherers who were there who were filming with high-pad cameras the quality is incredible
17:09you can pick someone's face up from hundreds of yards away then they identify the people
17:15when you have any mass disorder the police can use drones with special pilots who can film and we've
17:23got the police helicopter also gathering critical video evidence but also you have these forward
17:29intelligence officers who have handheld video equipment and they will video the whole crowd so
17:34they get two things they get the actual overall pattern of the disorder that you can then subsequently show
17:39to a court but also they'll be capturing individual faces and looking for that moment these officers will
17:47be surrounded by the the riot police and protected by other officers with shields and batons
18:00one police camera records a rioter in a red mask and the moment he gives himself away
18:06he had a black puffer jacket on this red scarf that he pulled up to cover the lower part of his face
18:15but he was also filmed walking towards a police line pulling down that mask and shouting towards the police
18:27and again we see that in this evidence that is filmed by south yorkshire police and presented as evidence
18:31of the police some body worn video from some of the officers from behind riot shields showed him picking
18:37up a bin throwing it towards police bouncing off their riot shields
18:48he was filmed taking part in some of the worst of the violence that day
18:52and then it's a case of following him then the investigation officers would have then followed
19:03his behavior before that and after that and that's when he'd have been caught doing the things he did
19:09and obviously the big one was helping um try and set the fire in terms of the bins into the corner
19:15but he also at one point got hold of a police baton and was waving at officers and that again that
19:23mindlessness he hasn't thought to think the officers are going to remember that and you know it's going
19:30to be clear as day or look at that individual there who's waving a police baton around so it all formed
19:35part of his greater behavior as one of the main protagonists in all of this and it's just crazy it's crazy
19:42behavior
19:50police had identified thomas burleigh a local painter and decorator with previous convictions for criminal
19:57damage attacking emergency workers and aggravated harassment now officers go to arrest him
20:08so there's been a number of officers going there because we don't know what would have been faced with
20:11yeah you can see there when you look at his face that it's suddenly dawned on him that they've got
20:22him and you can see the panic in his eyes he knows that justice has caught up with him
20:29when he says i'm thomas burleigh it seems to be that then he doesn't say another word as he's being
20:38let out to the van or the car that's waiting outside for him he seems shocked that he's having the
20:45handcuffs clicked onto his wrists and this is not the same thomas burleigh that we saw shouting at police
20:53officers 11 days before it's really satisfying to actually see that because he's getting his come
21:00up and say for what he's done and again for for the viewers who may have had a view on we should
21:04have been arrested him there and then this is the most appropriate and safest way to do that
21:09you know because he as soon as he dropped his face mask this was just inevitable
21:12that's the moment that was his last bit of freedom in that home being told that he is about
21:24to be arrested on suspicion of a very very serious offense
21:43thomas burleigh was jailed for nine years then the longest sentence for anyone taking part in the riots
21:50of 2024 we've seen many people be sentenced for violent disorder in these courts but this has been
21:57the highest prison term handed out across the country burleigh was told he would serve nine years
22:02in prison and even when released would have a further five years on license
22:10the judge said that he'd considered a life sentence a life sentence is for the most dangerous of criminals
22:18and the judge said that he considered burleigh to be a very dangerous offender to get what he did
22:27nine years in prison it's a long time
22:33he knows damn well his actions could have caused the death or serious injury of a lot of people
22:38so is nine years a lot no i don't think so not at all at least 80 people have been jailed following
22:47arrests for taking part in the rotherham riot i thought that these will all get pieced together
22:54and these arrests would follow but that also rewind back to the mob mentality they surely weren't that
23:03stupid to not expect a knock at the door in the following days and weeks there's just cameras everywhere
23:08and everything piecing together it's just like making a jigsaw
23:17with 64 officers injured police finally took control of the rotherham riot
23:25as people started to disperse and the crowd size shrank and the more police arrived and they got
23:32more of a grip on it they did start to arrest people there were people that were arrested
23:35on the day remember one person was arrested because he'd been bitten by a police dog we've since
23:40seen him go through the courts so there were a lot of people who were arrested on the day but
23:46the quality of the cameras the quality of the video meant that i think a lot of people were picked up
23:51the police and paramedics respond to a 999 call a man stabbed
24:21fighting to survive the only suspect his wife how many times have you stabbed him i did the once
24:31you did the once once i thought i'd get his heart well he hasn't got one and then fighting the afternoon
24:39this would have become a category one incident and that would have seen a double crew ambulance a rapid
24:46response vehicle the helicopter emergency medical service or critical care paramedic being sent to
24:52scene
25:00hey madam do you want to just step outside for a minute can you can you come outside yes thank you
25:05what's the keys on the kitchen floor okay at this moment in time okay you can listen to my colleague
25:13under arrest suspicion of attempt murder mate under arrest suspicion of attempt murder
25:17and you do not have to say anything
25:19it may harm you defense if you do not mention one question anything you're later lying in court
25:23anything you do say may be given an evidence
25:25i'll get in and see what they're doing yeah could i get my coat
25:30just bear with me two seconds in there i admit it all police aren't used to people admitting things
25:38i admit it all the officers will be surprised shocked almost that she's being so frank
25:46about what she's done they'll probably be asking themselves what's the subplot here what what's going on
25:52that we don't know about
25:56why is she acting so calmly so matter-of-factly about about what she's done
26:07david was penny's fourth husband and penny was his third wife they were both strong characters
26:13they would clash occasionally especially when alcohol was involved penny jackson was 66 year old
26:21retired accountant with the ministry of defense david jackson was 78 a retired lieutenant colonel in the
26:28army he was also a strong character he could be quite controlling people said and like things done a
26:35certain way
26:46before the arrest david jackson had dialed 999 needing urgent help he tells the operator i've been stabbed
26:57and it's at that point you hear on the 999 call penny stabbed him for a second and a third time
27:03and drops the phone and from then on penny picks up the phone and she's in charge of the 999 call
27:09while david is moaning in the background
27:14and are you with him now well i might just go and stab him again all right do not stab him again
27:22why it's an odd call isn't it these calls don't happen very often and the emergency call operator who
27:30was handling that call must have been thinking is this real how many times have you stabbed him i did
27:38the one you did the one and then he said i wouldn't do it again so i did it four more
27:46so okay so in total how many times oh three times three times okay so just listen to my voice
27:54okay down the line with me i am okay sounding a little bit inebriated and then coming up with
28:02that that phrase saying i'm compass mentis these are things that those of us who've worked in emergency
28:08services often find are somewhat of a contradiction okay are you with the patient now well i need the
28:17lounge for the people in the kitchen bleeding to death with any luck
28:23police would have been deployed and there would be 10 emergency vehicles on scene and
28:29perhaps as many as 20 people on scene quiet street lots of engines rumbling blue lights flashing
28:40you can see from the body worn video footage that their first priority when they've arrived on scene
28:46was to go and support the resuscitation efforts for david jackson right get the ambulance in pronto we
28:52need to see who we are the priority of the police going to any incident is preservation of life that
28:58trumps everything that trumps forensic preservation it trumps searching for witnesses it even trumps
29:03arrests if you can save a life that is the first thing you do one group of officers dealt with penny
29:10the others went in to try and deal with david they know that that something dreadful has happened and
29:16they've got a woman they're admitting being responsible for it so they brought her outside
29:23because that's the safest place for her to be we can see by the shadows there's a number of officers
29:28around okay at this moment in time okay can you just listen to my colleague um under arrest suspicion
29:36under arrest suspicion of murder what strikes me is that the the person that actually the officer that
29:42actually makes the arrest seems to be a student officer in training and i say that for a couple
29:48of reasons one is uh that another officer effectively tells him to arrest her on suspicion of attempted
29:57murder under arrest suspicion of attempt murder mate under arrest suspicion of murder and he he says
30:03those words in exactly the same words as he's been told to say it so that strikes me as somebody that
30:09that's learning their craft he seems slightly kind of nervous i mean who wouldn't be in this situation
30:23anyway when i was a student officer i never arrested anybody for attempted murder it's normally shoplifting
30:29drink drivers assaults that sort of thing to make an arrest for an attempt murder presumably that early
30:36in your career is something that will stick with that officer for for a long time under arrest
30:40with suspicion of step murder when jackson's arrested on suspicion of attempted murder
30:50she says hopefully not in in relation to the attempted murder
30:57she wants this to be murder she wants her husband to have died
31:01yeah could i get the coat just bear with me two seconds all she's worried about is her coat
31:08she's been arrested for attempted murder she must know she's going to go to prison for a long time
31:13she's just worried about her coat all about her
31:18jackson is put in handcuffs which she instantly complains about too tight and she's led away from the the
31:26house so that police and paramedics can try and save david's life when they put the handcuffs on um
31:34it she's she's obviously not fighting but that's not to say that she won't where because it might
31:40suddenly occur to her that actually i'm in a whole lot of trouble here so she might end up becoming violent
31:47desperate attempts continue to save the life of david jackson a path is cleared for the arrival of paramedics
31:55with any luck you'll be too late
31:58all right get the ambulance in pronto we need cpr oh don't no no no please don't
32:05i should have stabbed him a bit more
32:12so here the officer is doing exactly what the officer should do and
32:17calling for the ambulance to come in to perform more specialized life support
32:24and stabbed him a bit more i think if she could she just stood in their way and stopped them getting
32:28in she was that disappointed that there was a chance that her husband was going to survive
32:33and if i haven't done it properly i'm really annoyed
32:36inside a small bungalow on the somerset seaside paramedics try to save the life of david jackson
32:57aged 78 stabbed three times by his wife penny aged 66
33:06under arrest with suspicion of murder you do not have to say anything
33:09not really it may harm your defense with domestic violence murders there's there's there's usually
33:15a back story to them yes i stabbed him
33:20a back story to them
33:32he's an aggressive bully and nasty and i've had enough and when he said
33:39when she says on camera that he goaded her he was an aggressive bully
33:53he's an aggressive bully and nasty and i've had enough you know she says those things and
34:01to a degree they may be true but the way she says them it's almost as if
34:08by killing him she's got one up on him and when he said
34:14you wouldn't do it i did it twice more
34:17for years there had been rising tension between penny and david jackson
34:33penny was described as goading her husband sometimes into a fight into arguments and would
34:40put him down and a lot of david's family would eventually not speak to penny
34:47because they they disliked how she treated him
34:58penny was sending david tech saying that she couldn't cope
35:04that he frightened her and that she didn't want to grow old like this
35:17when the the covert 19 lockdowns happened this just seemed to make things all the more worse
35:27they were stuck together in the house and penny actually posted something on her facebook page
35:33quarantined with hubby for two weeks gertrude is knitting something special for him and the the image
35:39that went along with this was a woman knitting a noose for her husband
35:51there'd been a call to the police where there'd been a row about a remote control
35:56and david had been verbally violent and penny had locked him in the conservatory and david smashed
36:05his way out of the conservatory
36:13the years of feuding came to a head on february the 13th 2021
36:18they were sitting down in their house to a birthday zoom meal with their daughter isabel and and her
36:28husband where they'd each cooked a meal at their own houses and they were sharing it over their laptops
36:32watching each other penny and david had fallen out seriously over something as small as as penny
36:39serving bubble and squeak rather than potatoes with the meal bubble and squeak is just a fried up
36:44collection of vegetables it's thought of as a bit of a sort of peasant dish and david thought that
36:51something better should have been served alongside their meal a lot of alcohol had been drunk and
36:58people would say after a lot of alcohol had been drunk penny would get abusive
37:09first penny jackson grabbed a kitchen knife
37:12she told david that she was going to kill herself and when he said that she was pathetic for saying
37:20that that is when she stabbed him she stabs him in the chest he gets up it hasn't been a fatal blow
37:29and he walks to the kitchen he calls 999 and tells the operator i've been stabbed from then on penny picks up the phone
37:38and are you with him now well i might just go and stab him again all right do not stab him again
37:49taken into custody after being arrested for attempted murder penny jackson appeared unconcerned about her
37:56husband okay it might be a while all right but i'll try and get there's obviously a lot going on
38:11okay she's still going on about the coat she's sat in the car still going on about her coat
38:17but if any luck it'll be too late my my advice is don't don't talk about it now okay and the officer
38:24is trying to protect her from herself so the best way for people to make any comment or admissions
38:31about a crime they've committed is in an interview room in a police station having had legal advice
38:37with a solicitor or a legal representative with them he's kind of saying look come on this is not the best
38:43place to do it he's protecting her all of the admissions are admissible because she's been
38:47cautioned but he's almost saying to her look you know just take a breath you know get some legal advice
38:54and you know don't let's not do it in the back of the police car that's not the best place for you
39:00yet still she carries on i have no no intention of not agreeing to what i've done she cannot be quiet
39:09she cannot stop admitting it i know what i've done all right and i know why i've done it and if i
39:15haven't done it properly i'm really annoyed then a message comes through that changes the picture
39:24dramatically her husband david has died from his injuries so this has now escalated from an attempted
39:32murder to murder because now somebody has died all right penny um i'm arresting further arresting you
39:47for murder um and she rather than throwing her head in her hands and being shocked and crying and
39:55any regret her reply is oh good all right penny um i'm arresting further arresting you for murder
40:04oh good i've already cautioned you so your necessity is for your arrest is for an
40:08prompt and effective investigation yeah and stop further harm sorry that one's a bit tight
40:15we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna move them to the rear in a minute she's immediately worrying
40:20about her handcuffs and how tight her handcuffs are she doesn't care she doesn't care in fact she's
40:25quite delighted that she's finished the job the um dio's just come out to um check your temperature
40:31and then we'll we'll move you in just stay there for the time being all right
40:37i'm gonna buy my slippers she's complaining about not having her coats wanting her slippers the gravity of
40:45the situation doesn't seem to be there step up my droid yeah righty i'm very sorry for being a
40:55nuisance just got to take your temperature okay yeah so that would be just really great get over it on
41:02the top of this if i saw video evidence like this as a as an investigator i would be incredulous
41:14about the just the heartless nature of her response
41:27but at her trial despite all her admissions penny jackson claimed she didn't intend to kill her
41:34husband it was manslaughter not murder penny jackson spent four days giving evidence in the witness box
41:43she was trying to convince the jury that she couldn't remember any of the incriminating
41:48things she'd said or done she would try to feign emotion and cry but it never came across as realistic
41:57it never came across as as genuine emotion a former ministry of defense accountant has been found
42:04guilty of murdering her husband a retired lieutenant colonel penelope jackson aged 67 was jailed for life
42:13with a minimum term of 18 years the 999 call and the arrest footage that was captured on the police body
42:22cameras was crucial i think in getting the conviction against penny jackson the judge said penelope jackson had
42:30tarnished the memory of her husband and that while giving evidence over four days she had not shown a
42:37shred of genuine remorse for her terrible crime i've dealt with domestic violence murders in the past
42:44where women have stabbed their partners i stabbed him he's an aggressive bully and nasty and i've had enough
43:06very often it is self-defense very often they have been tipped over the edge by years of of emotional
43:15abuse physical abuse coercive control that's nothing like this and when he said
43:21you wouldn't do it i did you wouldn't do it i did it twice more this is cold-blooded murder
43:51so
44:00you
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