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00:00I often think, you know, we see these big visits by the Pope.
00:03Do you think his visit is historic?
00:07And do you think that it's good to bring other faith leaders together?
00:12Or is it just mostly a symbolic gesture?
00:15Can anything actually massively change in the Middle East after his visit?
00:20I think anything that brings together different people from different cultures,
00:25religions, backgrounds, is always a good thing.
00:27Yeah. And irrespective of whether it is just a symbolic gesture,
00:32it's got people talking about, you know, the tenets that you talked about,
00:35unity and faith and love and forgiveness and working together.
00:40So, and it doesn't mean, you know, if something is just a symbolic,
00:43that it doesn't have its merits.
00:45So papal visits can be apolitical, but we've seen Pope Leo time and time again
00:49use his platform to talk about issues that are close to his heart.
00:53He has talked about immigration, he has talked about poverty,
00:56and he's talked about human rights, and he's shone a light on those.
01:00So he is there to promote the message of unity, peace,
01:04reconciliation across different faiths and backgrounds.
01:07And I do think that these are, papal visits are,
01:10irrespective of your religion, they are once-in-a-lifetime opportunities.
01:15These are large-scale events where, you know, hundreds of thousands of people
01:21are flocking to see Pope Leo.
01:24And it brings people together, irrespective of your faith.
01:27You know, you're in big crowds, you're talking to the people around you.
01:31Why are you here? You know, how far have you come?
01:33So it brings people together in that kind of way.
01:37Now, the symbolism is great, but as well, it's nicer if it translates into actual concrete action,
01:47turning that goodwill into actual things.
01:50So that's to be seen.
01:52Obviously, the visit is ongoing, and we'll see what comes of it.
01:55But I do think the powerful message of where he is visiting
01:59is almost the concrete action in itself.
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