Mama June: From Not to Hot Season 7 Episode 3
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00:00Out of the family.
00:00That's it.
00:01Mama's gonna step in, and she's gonna make sure that it.
00:05Anna passed before she could write down her wishes.
00:08And her ex, Michael, sued Mama for custody of Caitlyn.
00:11And everyone's nervous we could lose her.
00:14Now we are a month away from going to court,
00:17and that is stressful.
00:20We were all excited Alana was back in town from college.
00:23Hey!
00:25Morning!
00:26I'm doing it!
00:28Unfortunately, it was for Draylyn's court case,
00:30and the news they received may cost them their relationship.
00:34The judge really could sentence you to 10 years in prison.
00:38If they give you 10 years, I'm gonna have to tell them
00:39that I'm gonna have to serve with you.
00:41But at least Mama finally gave Alana back
00:43the money she stole.
00:45It was nice that you finally come to your senses
00:47and pay me my money back.
00:48I've got the check.
00:50It's a cashier's check.
00:52Oh, wow.
00:53Meanwhile, I had to make the hardest decision of my life.
00:57I think I'm at the point of, like, getting a divorce.
01:00Do you want to share with him in a session?
01:02That would be probably better.
01:05I love something the rest of my life,
01:06but I won't ever let that go.
01:09I did plan on keeping my marriage issues from my family.
01:12You and Deva have been, like, a little distant.
01:16But they kept on crying.
01:18What the hell is Josh at?
01:19Mama, I really don't know.
01:21I'm sick of him.
01:22It's a girly bar.
01:24We're getting a divorce.
01:25What?
01:26I don't love him enough to be with him.
01:28Why would you just say it like that?
01:46So y'all stop just asking me, like, why is it?
01:48What are you doing?
01:49What's going on?
01:50Like, that way you just know how.
01:53So the whole sperm thing is a no now, I'm guessing.
01:56A hundred percent.
01:57OK, well.
01:58Maybe you should just look eloquently.
01:59You know, that might be a little weird.
02:02Well, I mean, I've been feeling the vibe off for a while, though.
02:04Oh, have you?
02:07Maybe y'all just got married too young.
02:08I love your relationship advice,
02:10because you've had such good past relationships.
02:13Oh, stupid.
02:14If you keep following me, I'm leaving.
02:16Bye.
02:17He obviously doesn't give a .
02:18What do you know about marriage?
02:19This is the first time you've ever been married.
02:21That's right.
02:22This is your first marriage, too.
02:23I mean, you know, a lot of your stuff
02:25could have taken a toll on us, too.
02:27Don't blame me for your problems, because I only had a job.
02:30I'm blaming you for my problems.
02:32But you know Joshie Poole is going to say it is.
02:34Well, it was your mama.
02:35It was your piece of mama.
02:37She wouldn't have done that.
02:38Oh, my God, Jean.
02:39So who's getting the house?
02:41Mama.
02:42Whoa!
02:43I haven't even told him.
02:45Mama's never kind of the nurturing type.
02:48I mean, the least she could do is be like,
02:50I'm sorry for what you're going through.
02:52Everything's going to be OK, Pumpkin.
02:53But no, she can't do that.
02:55I'm going to go and talk to the therapist
02:56tomorrow with Josh and make sure
02:59that we do this the civil way.
03:02You don't think y'all can talk it over?
03:03No.
03:06Well, why don't you look at the time?
03:08I best get gone.
03:11Why aren't you glad you don't live here no more?
03:13Right?
03:14Why do you always come and leave so fast?
03:16You just come and go.
03:17Like, I love coming and going.
03:19Back to people.
03:20That's going to be nice.
03:21It comes as a shock to me that Pumpkin
03:24is really going to get a divorce.
03:26Like, what's going to happen?
03:28Like, this is going to be crazy.
03:32Josh is almost like a father figure to me.
03:34All boys are covered in cooties, kind of like chicken pox.
03:38Cooties?
03:39What do you think I am five?
03:41No, stay away from the cooties.
03:45You're going to get in your car, get your and leave.
03:48And if I could buy you a plane ticket to go out there tomorrow,
03:51I would.
03:52Yep.
03:54Be very, very, very smart the whole time.
04:01Now it's like, we're getting a divorce.
04:04What's going to happen with the kids?
04:05Like, I feel like the whole family is just
04:07going to be ripped apart.
04:08We're going back to Colorado drama free, OK?
04:12So when we all be back, we're going to show
04:13this new court date.
04:15Why don't you be a Debbie Downer?
04:17I mean, I hope y'all ask because, hey, we don't see
04:20you, but every so often.
04:25I told you that that was going to happen.
04:26I told you something was wrong.
04:29I guess you were right.
04:30I was right.
04:39This is, like, insane.
04:41For sure.
04:43I actually just said it like it was nothing.
04:45Like, it was just, wow, we're getting a divorce, you know?
04:50Bye, Lana.
04:51Bye, Mama.
04:52I'll be safe.
04:53Y'all be safe.
04:56Don't leave me out of the gate.
04:58Bye.
04:59Well, you were upstairs, piggy butt, and it's like,
05:02so much is going on.
05:03Am I getting a huggy?
05:04I love you.
05:06I'll see you later, OK?
05:07I'll face something when I get home, OK, Mama?
05:09This is going to suck for Ellie because it's like,
05:12Ella's at the age now where, like, she's very smart.
05:16And she's somebody that, like, you can't really lie to.
05:19And she'll definitely be like, no, Mama, you're lying.
05:22So this is like, I don't know how Pumpkin's going to even
05:26tell her that, like, Pumpkin and Dad are getting a divorce.
05:30Like, what?
05:33Like, this has come to a shocker to me.
05:34So I just can't even imagine how Ella would take it.
05:37Like, this is going to be crazy.
05:43So you're sure you're good and this is what you want to do?
05:45Yeah.
05:46OK.
05:48I knew something was up.
05:49You just didn't tell me.
05:51I didn't tell anybody except for Lonnie.
05:54Don't you got to be getting Harper or something?
05:56They're all bothering me still.
05:57I was making sure if you needed somebody to talk to, I was here.
06:00I'm fine, Jessie.
06:01All righty.
06:02I have a therapist.
06:03All righty.
06:06I guess I'll just let you have some quiet time.
06:07That would be great.
06:09All righty.
06:10Don't forget all the plates.
06:11I won't.
06:12OK.
06:13Pick up after kids.
06:14Have to still pick up after y'all.
06:15Y'all don't even live here.
06:17Well, let me know if you need me.
06:19I need you at work tomorrow.
06:21Well, all righty.
06:22And don't be ruining your mouth about this stuff, OK?
06:25Okey-doke.
06:26Okey-doke.
06:28It's child safety, not Jessie's safety.
06:33Jessica, grab the doorknob and the inside.
06:36This is why you can't be my real employee right here.
06:41Prime example.
06:42Got it.
06:46All right, Jessie.
06:54That was kind of like an interesting breakfast,
06:56but I mean, if I have to say so, I'm going to pat myself
06:59on the back on this one.
07:01I told Pumpkin before she even married Josh she was too young.
07:05I hope you realize this is a lot of responsibility
07:07and that it's hard, like, being able to juggle life, job,
07:11kids.
07:12You're going to have to grow up.
07:15Yeah, but, like, this isn't really the right time to be like,
07:19I told you so.
07:21And we have a lot of stuff going on in our own life.
07:24I know what I mean.
07:25We've got a court case with Caitlyn coming up.
07:28It's, like, stressing everybody out.
07:30Yeah.
07:31Living in the public eye sometimes is not fun,
07:35especially when it comes to, like,
07:37this court case coming up with Caitlyn.
07:38So it's probably going to be blasted all over social media,
07:41all over the media period.
07:43And the same thing with, like, Pumpkin and Josh.
07:46Like, Josh is going to have his truths.
07:48Pumpkin's going to have her truths.
07:49There's going to be people inserting their self,
07:51thinking they know the truth but don't really know a damn thing.
07:54But that's just the way it is, being in the public eye.
07:57I mean, this is, like, wild as , you know, like.
08:01It's definitely crazy, it's definitely wild, you know.
08:03But that just goes to show you that, like, nobody's perfect
08:06and everybody, no matter how they're made out to be,
08:09have issues.
08:11So, I mean, I guess, you know,
08:12she doesn't have the perfect marriage,
08:14so I guess now we have, like, what everybody would say
08:17would be the, um, picturesque marriage now.
08:22Well, Junbo, I mean, we have our issues
08:26that we have to work on every day, too.
08:28We ain't perfect.
08:30Our life isn't picture skew.
08:34Oh, shit.
08:36Hi.
08:37How are you?
08:38How are you?
08:38I'm doing good.
08:39Good.
08:39Good.
08:40Come on in.
08:41OK.
08:58Hi.
08:59Hey.
09:00How you doing?
09:00I'm doing good.
09:01Good, good.
09:02Come on in.
09:04Where's Josh?
09:06I think he's a little bit behind me.
09:08OK.
09:09I think.
09:10Cool.
09:10Come on in.
09:12Knowing today that I have to tell Josh
09:14that I do want a divorce, I am nervous.
09:17I'm scared to see, like, how he's going to react.
09:20Because, like, I don't want to upset him,
09:22and I don't want to hurt him.
09:23But I do know that we're on two very different levels of what
09:27we want out of this relationship.
09:28And I'm at the point where I am done, and he is not.
09:32So, Ms. Pumpkin, what have you heard from Josh?
09:36Is, like, any conversation with him?
09:39Like, does he even know when he comes in here,
09:42what we're going to be talking about, like?
09:44Like, I know that Josh does want to fix things,
09:47and wanting to see if, like, again, we can work it out.
09:50But, like, we've tried to work it out multitudes of times,
09:53and it's just, like, it's not working for us, you know?
09:56Ugh.
09:57I am a little nervous.
09:59I feel you.
10:01Whew.
10:02OK, well, I think that's him.
10:06Hey, Josh.
10:07Hey, how are you?
10:07All right.
10:08Nice to see you again.
10:09Yeah.
10:10Come on in.
10:10It's good to see you again.
10:18So how are you doing today?
10:20Been all right.
10:21Yeah?
10:22OK.
10:23Best I can be.
10:24I get that.
10:25I get that.
10:26So, Pumpkin, you want to share anything?
10:28Um, I was, like, talking to her, you know, like, last session, you didn't come, and we haven't
10:43been able to, like, really, like, communicate. We've only been, like, passing each other at the house or, you know, making dinner and doing what we need to do for the kids, but it hasn't.
10:57Like, we're still not communicating. We're still not. Like, I don't want to continue doing this if that's, like, the point that we're at now. Like, I think it would just be better if maybe, like, we just both, like, put our, you know, like, put our big girl panties on and we just, like, filed for a divorce.
11:22Coming up on Mama June Family Crisis.
11:33Well, y'all just missed a phone call.
11:35What phone call?
11:36Ready to go to court tomorrow and talk to the judge?
11:38Yeah.
11:38How did everything go back home?
11:42Pumpkin tells me that they're getting a divorce.
11:44I haven't even really told you, like, the worst part.
11:46We all know that Mama talks too much.
11:49I can't believe this.
11:50So, of course, Mama wants to get up there on the stand and say stuff she has no business saying.
11:55Like, I think it would just be better if we just, like, filed for a divorce.
12:11Because, like, I don't want to get to a point in a year from now where, like, I can't stand you, we can't agree with the kids, we can't sit in the same room, we can't enjoy the holidays together.
12:28When Pumpkin asked for a divorce, it was kind of like a stab in the throat, almost speechless in a sense.
12:38Just never thought we'd be at this point in our lives.
12:41To me, it's just, like, throwing 10 years out of the window, really, in all honesty.
12:48It is my privilege to pronounce you finally husband and wife.
12:52You may kiss your beautiful bride, Josh.
12:54Everybody, come on.
12:55We're married, y'all.
12:58I love you.
13:03Everyone meet Ella Grace.
13:05She's perfect.
13:07Look what we did.
13:09You did good, sugar.
13:11Oh, I'm going to love.
13:14Daddy's the best.
13:16Mommy.
13:17Love me.
13:19I love you.
13:21Josh, how are you feeling right now?
13:24It's hard to say.
13:25Yeah.
13:26What's coming up for you?
13:27I don't have a time machine, so I can't go back, you know?
13:30Mm-hmm.
13:31But I wish I could.
13:32Yeah, I feel you.
13:33And do what?
13:35Change for the betterment of my marriage, instead of being so angry.
13:36I hear you.
13:37I do hate to see Josh in the house and do what?
13:38Yeah, I do hate to see Josh cry.
13:39I do hate to see Josh cry.
13:40I do hate to see Josh cry.
13:42I don't have a time machine, so I can't go back, you know?
13:48But I wish I could.
13:49Yeah, I feel you.
13:50And do what?
13:54Change for the betterment of my marriage.
13:57Instead of being so angry.
13:59I hear you.
14:05You know, I do hate to see Josh cry,
14:07and I do hate that I've broken his heart and I've hurt him.
14:10But for so long, like, I've begged for communication.
14:14I've begged to go on dates and all the things that normal people do
14:18in a marriage that we haven't been doing for years.
14:21And now I'm at my wits end with it.
14:24Like, I'm tired of begging.
14:25I'm tired of asking.
14:26So for the first time in my life, I feel like I'm making myself happy,
14:31and I just hope that Josh understands that.
14:34What would you say you've learned?
14:36I would say that, like, I've learned
14:40that it's okay to put yourself first.
14:42I think that's my biggest thing.
14:45We've put everybody ahead of ourselves.
14:47Yeah.
14:48Every time.
14:49I guess it's another problem I need to fix.
14:53Alana's already pissed off at me
14:55because Jessica questioned her about the whole Colorado thing,
14:57which obviously is my fault.
14:59Then you turn around, and Jalen's just not doing s***.
15:03I'm so sick and tired of hearing about Gene this, Gene that, Gene s*** up here.
15:07It would not bother me one bit if I never, ever seen Gene again.
15:11I can't really do that.
15:14I commend you for being, you know, communicable right now.
15:19Like, you're amicable in this space.
15:22And so with that being the case, where do we go from here, right?
15:26Like, what are their next steps, or is there a next step for you now?
15:32I think probably, like, our next step is just, like, trying to figure out,
15:35like, come to an agreement.
15:36And, um, like, the things that we do have, like, the kids, the, you know, the house.
15:43Like, we do have things together.
15:45Mm-hmm.
15:46But, like, I think we figure those things out, and then we, like, file.
15:52Mm-hmm.
15:53Okay.
15:54Where are you with that, Josh?
15:55How are you?
15:56I want to be on the same page.
15:58Okay.
15:59You know, me and Pumpkin said we would never do this to the kids,
16:02the whole broken home thing.
16:04And I think that's what really hits home.
16:08I went through a divorce as a child also.
16:11And watching the bickering and the arguing, it sucked.
16:15I mean, I don't want my kids to go through it,
16:18but at this particular point, we have no choice.
16:19So what I can do is to be more cordial than my parents were at times.
16:27Make sure that everybody knows that I'm always here, no matter what.
16:31And just to be completely honest the whole time,
16:35at this point, my children's mental health means more to me than anything.
16:40Yeah, I commend you for that.
16:42So how do you talk to your children?
16:46And is this what you're going to say?
16:48Like, are you going to let them know?
16:50I think we're probably just, like, the only one that I feel like can really, like, comprehend right now...
16:55Is Ella.
16:55Yeah, is Ella.
16:56Okay.
16:57So I do think, like, us sitting down and talking to her
17:00and just, like, letting her know, like, things are going to be different.
17:03Mm-hmm.
17:04But, like, the love that both of me and your daddy have, that isn't changing.
17:08Right.
17:08Right.
17:09Telling her, like, regardless, even though we're splitting up,
17:12it doesn't mean that I stop loving you any less
17:14or your daddy stops loving you any less.
17:16Like, we're still going to be there to take care of you.
17:18We're still going to be there to, you know, school events or sporting events
17:22or whatever the case may be.
17:24Like, none of that changes.
17:26Just the way that we live is going to change, you know.
17:31Children not only see what you do, they feel what you do.
17:36Right.
17:36And so I think it will be very beneficial to the children how you show up.
17:42Right.
17:43Let me give you a few minutes to just chat a little bit.
17:48I mean, I do thank you for, like, actually, like, communicating with me
17:55and, like, like, wanting really to do what's best for the kids.
18:00You're welcome.
18:01You know, I do still love you, and I'll always love you.
18:05I love you.
18:09And if you want to, you can go home with the kids,
18:13and then I'll just figure out somewhere to go, you know?
18:17I love you, Daddy.
18:41I'm going to make you a picture.
18:43Thank you, babe.
18:43I don't think painting is going to help your stress.
18:53Stress?
18:54Do I look stressed to you?
18:57What does stress look like?
19:00It's when your face crinkles up like that.
19:05Am I okay?
19:08Definitely not.
19:08I mean, I never thought that it would end this way.
19:14Like, I wanted things to be different.
19:18We fought to work it out, but sometimes things don't work out.
19:26Go get her.
19:26Come upstairs.
19:28Come on, Nene.
19:29Come on.
19:30It's exciting.
19:31It's a painting.
19:32Come on.
19:32Coming up on Mama June Family Crisis.
19:48What you going to do now?
19:49Probably why I'm going to stay here, you know, think it over.
19:51Well, see, look at you.
19:52Always come back home to Mama.
19:53It feels like there's no light at the end of the tunnel.
19:59We could walk out of this courtroom today and never see Caitlin again.
20:02Are you ready for this, Caitlin?
20:04I got out what I felt the court needed to hear.
20:08What happened?
20:08With this whole divorce thing, like, as much as I didn't really want to do it, I know that
20:25it had to be done, and I know that it hurts both of us in the long run, but I do care a
20:31lot about Josh, and I care about his mental state, and that's where Justin comes in.
20:34Who was knocking?
20:39I don't know.
20:42It's the police, Brian.
20:44Bitch, why are you knocking?
20:46Because?
20:49What are you doing?
20:50Vibrating, working out.
20:52I'm just trying to figure out, like, how this is working out.
20:54Because when I started this five weeks ago, I weighed 255.
20:57This morning when I woke up, I weighed 232.
21:00So in five weeks, I have lost 23 pounds.
21:05I don't even go to the gym.
21:06This is my gym.
21:07I mean, you ought to wait a minute.
21:08I mean, I'll be done working out, and...
21:10I didn't come to talk to you.
21:11I come to talk to Justin.
21:12So what are you over here for?
21:13Well, Josh was going back to the house, because we, like, today went to the therapy shop.
21:19How'd that go?
21:20Today was really, like, us sitting down with a therapist and, like, me asking him for a divorce.
21:26What?
21:26You thought you got through with it?
21:28Yeah.
21:28How did he take it today?
21:31I mean, of course he's, like, sad and stuff.
21:33Like, I don't think that he's, like, shot.
21:35Like, I think he knew that was coming.
21:37Like, I think he knew that, like, we haven't been doing good.
21:40I'm not going to wait around forever for us to be able to communicate with each other and put our kids through that.
21:44I'm not...
21:45Yeah, don't stay...
21:45I don't want to do that.
21:46Like, I told him at the end of the conversation today, he was like, I still want to be best friends with you.
21:50I still want to be cordial for the kids.
21:51I still want us to be able to do things with the kids together.
21:53Which is hard.
21:55Right.
21:55Because it is hard when people are together for a long period of time and then break up.
21:59Yeah.
21:59Sometimes you can be friends, sometimes you can't.
22:01Right.
22:02I mean, so, you know, I was kind of, like, thinking, you know, like, maybe you could, you know, like, talk to him.
22:09Like, man to man.
22:11I just know that, like, he does respect you a lot.
22:13Maybe he'll talk to you.
22:15Counselor Justin.
22:17I can go talk to him.
22:18Stop by and check on him.
22:19See what he's up to.
22:20I mean, this would be a good time for you to bond with your mama, though.
22:23You can get her here on the squatter machine.
22:25So, yeah, look, you go over there and sit on the squatter and she can be on the plate and y'all can work out together.
22:30Y'all do that?
22:31No.
22:32All right, well, I'm going to go check on Joshie's boot.
22:34I'll let you know how it goes.
22:38What you doing?
22:39I'm not going to have a conversation with you until you get off that ridiculous-ass thing.
22:45Well, I mean, you need to go work on that thing.
22:47You know, you're at 206, that squatter machine will take your name.
22:53I mean, so what you going to do now?
22:54What do you mean, what am I going to do?
22:56I mean, you're getting a divorce.
22:57Like, what are you going to do?
22:58Like.
23:00I don't know.
23:01There's a lot of things that I have to figure out.
23:03I mean, that's probably why I'm going to stay here, you know, think it over.
23:06You stay here.
23:07Well, see, look at you.
23:08You always come back home to mama.
23:10I just want to really try to figure my stuff out.
23:13Like, you just need to work on yourself and do pumpkin.
23:16Like.
23:17This bitch.
23:18Knock, knock.
23:39Come on in.
23:41Yeah.
23:41What are you doing?
23:43Put it on the paper.
23:44Sister Guff, you painting over there?
23:47Where's everybody at?
23:48They followed Ella upstairs.
23:50You know, pumpkin stopped by the house.
23:52I wanted to come by and check on you.
23:54She said y'all went to therapy.
23:56See how he was holding up.
23:58It's something I didn't want to go through in life at all.
24:01And, you know, divorce is hard.
24:03You know, I've been through it.
24:06It sucks, bro.
24:07You know, there's some kind of love there.
24:09Like, you know, that was one of the things she stopped by for.
24:12Because she said she was worried about you.
24:14Wanted somebody to come check on you.
24:15So.
24:18I know it's rough, too.
24:20I know it feels like there's no light at the end of the tunnel.
24:24That's probably the hardest part.
24:26You just feel stuck.
24:28Stuck.
24:29You know, it really sucks seeing Josh this tore up.
24:32I mean, I understand what he's going through.
24:35You know, I've been through divorce.
24:36And there's no easy way to say it or to sugarcoat it.
24:39It's rough.
24:40And it's going to be hard for a while.
24:41You know, he's going to have moments where he feels down and out.
24:45And the best thing I can do for him is just be there and support him.
24:51She's such a daddy's girl.
24:55Thank God for the kids.
24:56Because there's the only thing keeping me wholesome.
24:59Yeah, how could they not?
25:02Kids is what hurt the most.
25:04It's going to say they don't deserve this.
25:05But as long as y'all put the kids first, you know,
25:08and understand that that's what's important.
25:11Yeah, it's what's most important to me at this moment.
25:15I love being around him.
25:16Anytime you need a babysitter, just call.
25:19I appreciate it.
25:20I mean, within a divorce, you kind of divorce the family.
25:25I'm super glad Justin gives enough to come and check on me.
25:34Divorcing June won't be so bad.
25:37I could care less.
25:38But Justin, on the other hand, has been a decent dude to me.
25:43So at least I've got him on my side in some of this.
25:47I mean, there's always been bumps along the way.
25:52Figure those out.
25:56I guess just this time couldn't figure this bump out.
26:00I'm excited to be back in Colorado.
26:21Me too.
26:22I'm glad I missed you.
26:23It's been a long time since we really hung out like this.
26:26I know, and I'm excited.
26:28Oh.
26:32So cute.
26:33Hi, guys.
26:34Hi.
26:34How are you?
26:35We're doing good.
26:36Do you have a reservation?
26:37We do.
26:38Awesome.
26:38What's the first name?
26:39Alana.
26:40Perfect.
26:41I am grateful to be back in Colorado and away from everybody right now is an understatement,
26:46but I'm glad that Makayla come and we're having like a little girl's day because it's like,
26:51I need somebody to just word vomit to.
26:55How did everything go back home?
26:57It was, it was just a lot.
27:01Why?
27:01What do you mean?
27:02Well, Jalen's lawyer, Sarah, needed to emergencyly meet with Jalen.
27:08Oh.
27:08So she was saying that like Jalen will be looking at 10 years of jail time.
27:12Oh my God.
27:13Where does that leave you in all of this?
27:15I do feel like we will figure it out, but it is like, it's scary.
27:20Like Jalen's scared.
27:21Yeah.
27:23And I don't know, like, I just hope that it doesn't get to that point.
27:27Well, it sounds like you had a rough and eventful weekend.
27:31Oh, you thought that was rough and eventful.
27:33I haven't even really told you like the worst part.
27:35So I come home and like, I felt like Pumpkin and Josh were just being off.
27:41Like, it just wasn't them, their normal self.
27:43So I sat down and had a conversation with Pumpkin and she tells me that they're getting a divorce.
27:51Yeah.
27:52Oh my God.
27:53A divorce.
27:54Like, I'm sorry to hear about that.
27:56Yeah.
27:57Like, I mean, Josh, it's like your dad.
28:00Literally.
28:01So like, I don't even know.
28:02How do you feel about it all?
28:04I was a little upset, but like, honestly, at the end of the day, there's like nothing
28:07that I can do to stop the divorce, you know?
28:10Yeah.
28:11I'm 100% not choosing sides, but at the end of the day, Pumpkin's my sister, so.
28:17I get it.
28:18But I still love Dada and I like, loved everything he did for me and I appreciate everything he's
28:23done for me.
28:23You don't want to get like, too involved in everything, you know?
28:26Yeah.
28:26You don't want to be in the middle.
28:28I definitely don't want to be in the middle of it, so.
28:30I'll stay here in Colorado and we'll paint pottery all the time.
28:35Yes.
28:35I love that.
28:37Coming up on Mama June Family Crisis.
28:40What are you doing?
28:41At Gigi's.
28:42Why?
28:45Unfortunately, we have to be left up to the judge.
28:47How are you doing?
28:48I mean, I wouldn't laugh.
28:49I wasn't nervous.
28:50The tension is real.
29:15Bobby's.
29:16What?
29:17Mommy.
29:17What, Bobby's?
29:21You who and y'all's?
29:23The man playing track.
29:24The man's gone.
29:26You know, it's only been a day since Pumpkin asked for the divorce and it's just weird.
29:34It's like, it's unknown territory in a sense because it's just like, I'm here with the kids
29:37and everybody's asking where mom is and it's just like, I don't know.
29:44Kids have no clue what's going on.
29:46They don't even know what color the sky is.
29:47So it's just like, what do you tell four kids?
29:51I miss you, Bobby.
29:53Mommy, I can't eat this.
29:55It's not good.
29:56I'm sorry.
29:57I'm sorry, Pete.
29:59Where are the babies?
30:00Everybody's still asleep.
30:03Give me a kiss.
30:06I love you.
30:07Come here, Bobby, man.
30:09Bobby, man, give me a kiss.
30:10Hey, give me a kiss.
30:13I'll be back, okay?
30:13I just keep telling myself it's going to get better.
30:24It's a process.
30:25Like now he has to go through the grieving and stuff.
30:28And really, I just hope that we can keep it cordial for our kids' sake.
30:31Because it's going to be sooner than later that we have to tell Ella.
30:35Ella is very smart for her age.
30:37So what have y'all been doing?
30:39Nothing.
30:41Where have you been?
30:42At Gigi's.
30:43Why?
30:46Because I just went and spent the night over there.
30:49You went and spent the night.
30:50I did, I did, I did.
30:51Why me?
30:52Like, what?
30:53Because I just needed to have some adult time, you know?
30:56Okay, let's hold on.
30:58Let's see if we have any popsicles.
31:03Ella Grace, I'm giving your brother this popsicle.
31:05I need you to keep an eye on him for like five minutes.
31:07Because I need a shower.
31:08I'm taking a shower.
31:09You hear what I'm telling you?
31:11Yeah.
31:11Because you're being silly and goofy and stuff.
31:15You need to get in the shower, stinky.
31:21It better be funny.
31:23No, no, I'm not funny.
31:35Hello?
31:47Um, yes?
31:49Tomorrow?
31:50I mean, for real?
31:52Like, they can do that?
31:54So my lawyer just called, and they said that my court date got moved up from a month from
31:58now to tomorrow when it comes to Caitlyn.
32:02Like, that ain't how it's supposed to work.
32:06Okay, well, just tell Johnny to like, text me the time and like, where to be at and stuff.
32:11All right, all right, talk to you later.
32:12All right, bye.
32:14Let me explain the court case to y'all.
32:17It is Michael, Anna's ex, versus myself, for custody of Caitlyn.
32:23Even though Anna told all of us that she wanted Caitlyn to stay with us, she never put it in
32:29writing or anything else.
32:32Michael is not Caitlyn's biological father, and we don't know who honestly is.
32:37The only reason Michael's able to go after me is because he paid for some of Caitlyn's school.
32:42So under this new Georgia law, if you pay for a child, you can go for equity of care for that child and custody.
32:54Well, it took y'all long enough.
32:55Well, I had to go get your food.
32:57I mean...
32:58Well, y'all just missed a phone call.
32:59What phone call?
33:00Well, I mean, are you ready to go to court tomorrow and talk to the judge?
33:04Yeah, tomorrow morning.
33:05What is...
33:05That's a short notice.
33:06Yeah, hunts buns.
33:07Yeah, they can do that.
33:09Did you want to...
33:11I figured it'd have been a little bit...
33:12I thought you had three days, but no.
33:17Well, this sucks.
33:18Like, I mean, I'm just not getting comfortable until, like, this whole, like, house thingy.
33:23And, like, now this court popped up, and, like, it's tomorrow.
33:27So, like, I'm kind of nervous, because, like, you don't know what's going to happen next.
33:30But, like, we knew this was coming, so, like, going into panic mode doesn't fix anything.
33:34Honestly, I really ain't ready to, like, deal with Michael's dumb ass , but I know he's going to bring up my freaking past.
33:41He's going to bring up your past.
33:42Who doesn't have a past?
33:43I mean, at the end of the day, I'm her biological grandparent, and I'm not going to lose Caitlin, because Michael ain't getting it.
33:51I'm sorry.
33:53Where are you going?
33:55To have a moment.
33:56A moment?
33:57You were having a moment right here with...
33:59We were having a conversation.
34:01Well, you ain't listening.
34:03I ain't...
34:03Lee, I am listening.
34:05I just...
34:06You only want to hear what June wants to hear.
34:09God, Lee.
34:10Look.
34:11Nobody understands.
34:12Oh, Anna, you are heavy as a bitch.
34:18Anyway, we made a promise to you, and, like, I'm trying to keep it, but, like, keeping it together has not been an easy feat, because, like, this has just literally consumed our whole entire life for the last seven months.
34:32So, bitch, I'm mad at you every day, because you're not here for Caitlin and Kylie, because we would not be going through this bitch, but I need you to damn channel yourself through me.
34:43Speak what you need to speak on the stand.
34:45We say what we need to say, and get the hell off the stand.
34:49That's all I need you to do.
34:55Coming up on Mama June Family Crisis.
34:58They are going to cook Mama, too.
34:59Yeah, they are.
34:59I mean, Mama's not going to deal with that.
35:00We just got word that the judge wants to talk to Caitlin and get her side.
35:05I just want you to tell what you know.
35:08All right, guys, let's go.
35:09Let's go, Caitlin.
35:20It's time to go to court.
35:21Let's go.
35:22I'm ready.
35:23Come on.
35:24You're going to wear a T-shirt to court?
35:26No, I'm waiting on my shirt to finish drawing.
35:28You should have done that last night.
35:31Oh, my God.
35:31You take your clothes so we can go.
35:33So I thought you said you was ready.
35:35Babe, come on.
35:37We had to be there at 8.30.
35:40This has consumed our lives pretty much for the last seven months, because Anna's been gone seven months.
35:46Even though we know what Anna wanted at the end of the day, unfortunately, we have to be left up to the judge.
35:51And we don't know what the judge is going to do.
35:54I mean, y'all, I'm not going to lie.
35:55I mean, I'm freaking out.
35:57I am worried that I am going to lose Caitlin.
36:00Let's go.
36:05Are you ready for this, Caitlin?
36:17I don't know.
36:21I'm a pumpkin, bro.
36:22I feel kind of nervous.
36:24I have, like, my stomach starting to hurt a little bit, because, like, I'm kind of nervous.
36:27I don't know what's going to happen.
36:29The tension is real.
36:30Oh, there's Eldridge.
36:34Eldridge is Anna's husband of one year, but they were together for eight years.
36:38He pretty much raised the kids since they were very little.
36:42He may be called to testify.
36:44So I do want Eldridge to go up there and tell his truth if he is called.
36:48But also, he knows what Anna wanted.
36:51Anna wanted Caitlin to stay with her biological family, and we're going to fight like hell to have that happen.
36:56Damn, look at all the way to what Michael's got with him.
37:02There ain't no telling what Michael's going to pull in court.
37:05So today is a day that we're going to come face to face, and this is going to be handled.
37:12We're going to walk in together and out together.
37:14Okay, Caitlin?
37:18Honestly, with this being the first day of court, there is a lot on the line.
37:21We could walk out of this courtroom today and never see Caitlin again, or Mama could leave with her.
37:27It could go either ways at this point.
37:29I really am scared for the outcome.
37:31It's lunchtime, y'all.
37:42And, I mean, Michael done called 15 witnesses.
37:45Half of them ain't seen him since 2017.
37:48I mean, Michael was digging deep.
37:51It's 12-11.
37:52We have an hour.
37:52I'm getting something to drink.
37:53Anyway, so Michael was just up there on the stand, and she's like, you know, Pumpkin reached out, and has been reaching out since January, like, since before January.
38:07To see Kylie, you keep ignoring her, and you keep blowing her off.
38:10He's like, yes.
38:12He says, well, it's Caitlin's responsibility as a 12-year-old kid to give June his contact information.
38:19How is it her?
38:20She's a kid.
38:21I can't remember my own number.
38:22And he literally admitted that he hadn't texted her in, like, five months, but you cared?
38:27That is wild.
38:28They are going to cook Mama, too.
38:30Yeah, they are.
38:30I mean, Mama's going to deal with it.
38:32She's going to take it to the chin.
38:34The scary part with this court stuff is, yeah, Michael's going to get on the stand, and Mama's lawyer's going to chew him a new one, but Mama also has to get on that stand and is going to get it 10 times harder because she was a drug addict.
38:49She was a parent.
38:50I'm scared to figure out.
38:53And all of that has been documented through national television, which, in my opinion, does scare me a little bit.
38:58Somebody's going to leave today with exhales before my leg, and somebody ain't going to be happy.
39:02I didn't get to talk to the judge, guys.
39:19That is some bullsh**.
39:22Because Michael called so many witnesses, we've got to come back tomorrow.
39:26The best part of Michael's testimony for today had to be out of the 276 pages of text messages between him and Anna that I had.
39:36It says that Caitlin doesn't want to be over there, and also Anna doesn't want Michael to have custody of Caitlin.
39:45And all this is just really nerve-wracking for all of us involved.
39:50So what time do I need to know?
39:51Um, maybe we got first day in the morning.
39:53Y'all ready?
40:22Come on, Caitlin.
40:24Today, you will talk to the judge.
40:28Today, I will talk to the courtroom.
40:31I just want you to tell what you know.
40:33At the end of the day, it's what you want.
40:35We just got word that the judge wants to talk to Caitlin and get her side in what she's feeling.
40:41I think it's a very good thing that the judge is going to speak with her.
40:44I'm just ready to get over with, because this child needs to rest, and my daughter needs to rest.
40:49Anna has not rested in seven months and 13 days now.
40:54Come on, Caitlin.
40:54All right, guys.
40:55Let's go.
40:56How are you doing?
40:57I mean, I wouldn't laugh.
40:58I wasn't nervous.
40:59I'd probably cry about a lot of things.
41:01It's okay to cry, but, like, remember, don't let them get you off what you're supposed to be talking about.
41:05Oh, no, I'm not.
41:06Trust me.
41:06I've heard this court case a hundred times.
41:24We had a system, you know, that you said, I'm not going to be able to see you, you know, do something obvious like playing with your hair.
41:31Girl, I literally don't think I could have played with my hair anymore without being like, me and Brody had some hand signals, and I started over-talking that she was going to mess with, like, her hair so I could be able to see it.
41:42And I didn't see her messing with her hair.
41:44Brody might be a little bit mad at me, but at least I got out what I felt was what the court needed to hear.
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