Sinar Daily’s Life & Style Podcast dives deep into the silent battles men face every day - the pressure to be strong, emotional loneliness, burnout and the unspoken weight of expectations.
Our speakers: Dr Fitri Zainuddin, a Psychiatrist from UiTM explains the mental, cultural and social challenges that make men hesitate to seek help.
Raden Yakob (Rafya), an influencer shares his real-life experiences dealing with public pressure, identity and emotional struggles.
This episode is for every father, son, brother, husband, friend - and for the women who care about them.
Watch now on Sinar Daily’s social media platforms.
#SinarDaily #LifeStylePodcast #MensMentalHealth #MensWellbeing #BreakTheStigma #MentalHealthMalaysia #EmotionalHealth #MenDontTalk #RadenYakob #DrFitriZainuddin
Our speakers: Dr Fitri Zainuddin, a Psychiatrist from UiTM explains the mental, cultural and social challenges that make men hesitate to seek help.
Raden Yakob (Rafya), an influencer shares his real-life experiences dealing with public pressure, identity and emotional struggles.
This episode is for every father, son, brother, husband, friend - and for the women who care about them.
Watch now on Sinar Daily’s social media platforms.
#SinarDaily #LifeStylePodcast #MensMentalHealth #MensWellbeing #BreakTheStigma #MentalHealthMalaysia #EmotionalHealth #MenDontTalk #RadenYakob #DrFitriZainuddin
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00:00Hi, Assalamualaikum and a very warm welcome to all the Sina Daily's Life and Style Podcast viewers.
00:05Welcome back with me, Dr. Nurhamid Al-Sukifli as the moderator and also the host for the Sina Daily's Life and Style Podcast.
00:12So welcome to the month of November.
00:15So this is the month where we celebrate the Men's Health Awareness Month.
00:19Or should I just say it's November where people actually grew their mustache to celebrate in conjunction of the Men's Health Awareness Month.
00:26So today we are diving into a topic that is deeply, deeply important yet it's often overlooked.
00:34It's about men's mental, emotional and also overall well-being.
00:39So men today face unique pressures.
00:43They have to face the societal expectations, cultural normals and also the family responsibilities, career demands and nonetheless the silent waits of loneliness.
00:53And yet many continue to suffer quietly, believing they must always remain strong since they are, they used to see it as an alpha male, right?
01:04So to unpack this, we are happy to have with us two distinguished guests.
01:08On my left hand most, I have Dr. Fitri Zainuddin.
01:12He's a psychiatrist, which his forte is in men's health and also men's psychological health from UITM Hospital, who will explore the psychological barriers, cultural influences and also practical ways to promote healthiest lifestyles among Malaysian men.
01:30Welcome to the show, Dr. Fitri.
01:33Hi, Assalamualaikum, hello everyone.
01:35All right, thank you so much.
01:37And on my left hand most, on my left hand side, I don't think so he needs any further introduction.
01:43He's very famous on his social media.
01:46This is Radin Ahmad Faisal bin Yaqob, better known as Raf, an influencer who will share real life insights into how societal expectations, professionals' pressure and also family roles impact men's health.
02:00So we hope that this conversation will open the door and also break the stigma and also encourage healthier, more supportive conversations among Malaysian men.
02:12Okay, so let's begin without wasting any more time since this topic is, I think, such a heated discussion.
02:18So first and foremost, we'll go to Dr. Fitri.
02:20As always, I will go to my medical expert.
02:23So there's a study made in America most of the time.
02:27It's a 2023, there was a study published saying that one in ten men are fighting depression in silence.
02:34Okay, so what do you think are the most common barriers that prevent Malaysian men from seeking mental health advices and also mental health support early?
02:44Why are they refusing to actually come forward to us?
02:48Okay, thank you for the question.
02:49Thank you, Sina Daly, for inviting me to share this space with Raf.
02:56Together, we will explore about the mental health.
03:01So hopefully men out there, so don't shy.
03:05So hopefully we can break the silence together.
03:08So about the question, as we know, now the mental health issue is coming up, rising, you know.
03:16Even in our Malaysia society, Malaysian National Health Survey, noted that a few percent of adults having some depression and mental health problem.
03:29And the number is increasing in the younger population as well.
03:37And also in globally, the suicide rate is two times higher than compared to women.
03:45And it make up majority of the death by suicide.
03:50So from this number, we can see that men is in pain, you know, but they didn't reach out.
03:58So what is the barrier?
03:59The barrier that usually that we are seen most probably because of the upbringing style or when the cultural belief that we need to be strong in the script that we always heard by our parents or people out there.
04:16You need to be strong, you need to don't be sad, don't cry, you know, you need to man up, you know, when this thing has been scripted until our adulthood.
04:27So when we having some emotional problem or overwhelmed, they cannot feel or name it, what happened to me, you know, I need to be strong.
04:39You know, and this makes them very suffer inside, you know, very suffer inside and make them doesn't want to seek help in view of because they think he needs to be strong to the community.
04:55Other than that, because the fear of the judgment to the society where maybe he believes that when they think that what if my partner think about me, if I lost my role, you know, as a husband, you know, what other my click think about me?
05:14Can I be a leader because I have some mental health issue?
05:19Maybe, maybe the friend, you know, laughing at him because they see a psychiatrist out there.
05:27So because of this fear of being judged as a weak man or embrace because of having some mental health issue, make them a barrier to seek help.
05:38So in a study in overseas that shows that men sees that help seeking behavior is damage their image, you know, and very embarrassing compared to the women.
05:54And the third barrier maybe because of the emotional electricity, they think that men doesn't know how to name or describe their feelings.
06:04Okay, they're very expert to tell, to explain to the doctor or anyone that he had a physical symptom like chest pain, headache, vomiting, epigastric pain, and everything maybe due to the tired, I'm tired.
06:20But behind of it, maybe because of he is overwhelmed, you know.
06:24So other than death barrier, maybe because of the high functioning suffering where men,
06:33usually going, keep working, keep providing to the family as they will go work, they're going back to home and sleep.
06:47And the cycle is repeated every day.
06:49But inside, we don't know.
06:51They're having some hurt feeling or very burdening emotional symptoms.
06:57And the last one maybe because of the miscommunication of the psychiatry services where the people thinks that seeing psychiatrists for a crazy people, you know, for a severe cases.
07:10But in reality, we are seeing cases, a lot of cases of burnout, a lot of cases of relationship issues, marital issues, financial issues, as well as the sleep problem.
07:24So in summary, so we can say that actually men actually doesn't know how to seek help, actually.
07:35And so they actually they're scared of being judged or scared of being named as a weak man.
07:45So what I could actually conclude from that is that because of the social stigmata that they have been exposed, I mean, most of the time they have been labeled as the alpha, they should be strong.
07:56So like you have just mentioned, Dr. Future mentioned that whenever sometimes we can see how the upbringing that if a boy cries, then they will say, oh, you should not cry.
08:05I mean, but it's not wrong to actually express yourself, right?
08:08It's not something which is we should see it as something it's a sin for them to actually cry.
08:13It's just a way for them to express their feelings, isn't it?
08:16So and all the social expectations, most of the time, the men are trying to portray themselves as someone who's strong.
08:24They are able to deal with the problems.
08:28But at the end of the day, I think they are still human beings.
08:31So we should be dealing with them as a human.
08:35I mean, this is a part and parcel of the feelings that they are.
08:38It's OK to break down.
08:39It's OK to be sad.
08:40It's OK to, you know, you can't settle your problems.
08:44You have issues.
08:45And it's not wrong for you to come forward to see the psychiatrist because you always have that social stigmata that you are not.
08:53I mean, you are cuckoo.
08:54So you are not well.
08:56There's something wrong upstairs.
08:57But actually, the faster you come forward, it's even better, right?
09:02Because you can deal with it faster.
09:04Because nowadays, we can see in the social media, there's a lot of, I would say, not just suicide, but murders also.
09:11I mean, most of the time, it's because they can't cope with the stress, isn't it?
09:15OK, so now we're going to Raf.
09:19So we're just going to ask, from his experience in the public eye, since, like Dr. Fidja has mentioned, in terms of the societal demands and also expectations,
09:30how do the societal expectations influence the way men present themselves emotionally and physically,
09:36especially in your case that you are a public figure?
09:40How does that influence?
09:42OK, I think it's quite normal for society to think of men to be very strong and very, I would say, they don't have any emotion when it comes to things like this.
09:54But let me be honest with you.
09:56When you talk about physical, physicality is something that you can measure whether the man is muscular, whether the man is not muscular.
10:02So you can often judge whether he's strong or not strong.
10:05But what about their mental issue?
10:07Is it something that you can't say, something that you can't portray from the posting that he made or she, I mean, he made, you can't see it.
10:14I mean, like, often throughout my circle, I've seen men, they are actually suffering in terms of mental health.
10:21But they don't have, I would say that they don't have the right way to say it, probably because they don't want to say it.
10:28It's all about ego.
10:29But I do know that they really need someone to talk to.
10:33And funny how you guys call me up for this topic.
10:38Among my friends, they will talk to me.
10:41Raf, I've seen you as this, as this, as this.
10:44I want to talk to you.
10:44I said, go ahead.
10:45And when I asked them, why do you guys want to talk to me?
10:48Well, I've seen you having things in your life.
10:50You had to divorce.
10:51You have to manage your kids and stuff.
10:52So how do you deal with it?
10:53You look so calm on social media.
10:55That's the thing.
10:56I may look calm on social media, but you don't know what's happening in my life.
11:00But the thing about that, yeah.
11:02Social, I mean, when it comes about mental health for men, it's very hard to measure.
11:06But I found that for men to talk about mental health is not something that I would say as a weak.
11:12It's not something, a weak thing for men to do.
11:14If you need help, go on and seek.
11:18It doesn't matter if you want to do it socially or you want to do it privately.
11:22It's okay to talk to people when it comes to mental health, especially for men.
11:26We have lots and lots of responsibility in life.
11:29Okay, very much true.
11:31So, yeah, coming from someone who's like, he publicly saying that he underwent two times of divorce.
11:38Also, it's not something that, it's for him to be, I mean, people look up to him in terms of Ralph is like a strong public figure.
11:46I mean, but like he has said, sometimes what you portray on your social media or how you portray yourself, even at work, does not mean that that's what you are inside, isn't it?
11:55Because now we have this term that we call high-functioning depression, right?
11:59Because we did some last few months ago regarding this mental health issue.
12:05So, sometimes they can function very well at work, but at the same time, inside they are burning out, isn't it?
12:11So, just before I go to Dr. Futri, I just want to ask you.
12:16So, in your career, because you are always on the move, always on the social media, how have the career demands been constantly visible affecting your well-being?
12:26Maybe does it affect you in a way or like when you go through things, right?
12:30So, people will be like, for the normal layman person, if they undergo anything in their life, even like they go out to the grocery or they meet someone new, it doesn't make a difference.
12:42But for the social media, people who are a public figure, you just go out for a coffee with another girl.
12:47Maybe it's like, oh, Ralph is seeing someone new, Ralph is opening a new chapter.
12:51So, how do you actually, or if one day you look sad or something, oh, something's going on in his life, you know?
12:57So, how do you actually deal with that?
12:59Well, of course, being a public figure, they have pros and cons.
13:03Of course, on the pros, I don't have to talk about much.
13:05I mean, it's all about you're leveraging yourself on social media.
13:09But let's talk about the negative side of being a public figure.
13:12Yes, every single thing that you do, every single thing that you say, it will be judged.
13:17So, for me, being a public figure, whatever I post, whether it's on thread, now it's thread famous, right?
13:23Yeah.
13:23I got viral recently on threads.
13:26So, whatever I post on thread, I'll make sure that I have to reread that more than 10 times
13:30to make sure that every single word that I say, it doesn't cause any issue.
13:35So, I have to think of that.
13:36And in terms of having social relationship and stuff like that, yes, I mean, I'm a single man now.
13:44But at the same time, I'm not really single.
13:45So, being a single man, going out with girls out there, it might cause issue, might cause people to talk about.
13:53So, that is something that I learned to be more low-key.
13:59But, yeah, like I said, being a social media, being in a public figure, in this line, everything that you do is being watched.
14:06Everything that you said is being analysed and judged here and there.
14:12So, for those who want to be a public figure, think about it.
14:16If you are ready to have these circumstances of being a public figure, go ahead.
14:19But if you are not, if you happen to have a normal private life, go for it.
14:25Because if you ask me, if I were to turn back, I would rather be a private person.
14:29But somehow, in my family, there's a lot of public figure on it.
14:32So, it's somehow, subconsciously, I become a public figure.
14:35As well.
14:36Yeah.
14:37Okay, I like the part that when he says that, yeah, you tend to go through 10 times before you post something.
14:44Because I think one thing, being a public figure and a social, I mean, like, maybe influencer, it's a good thing.
14:51But at the same time, you are carrying some responsibility to, I would say, the younger generation.
14:57Because nowadays, the younger generations, they want, if you ask them, they want to become influencer.
15:01Because they think it's fun being that.
15:04But at the same time, like what he said, there's also some downside out of it.
15:08I'm not saying negative in terms of you shouldn't be, but you have to be cautious in terms of what you post.
15:13If you're ready to be kecam or be, to force people to say something, you have to be okay with it.
15:19But if you're the type of person that whenever someone comments something about it and you feel like so, you know, that you feel so down and, you know, you can't work,
15:28I think you should be, you should consider of not being a social influencer, right?
15:33Okay, Dr. Futri, so there's a term nowadays that have been used, I think Malaysia is not very much common,
15:40but globally, that's talking about male loneliness syndrome, okay?
15:45So, male loneliness has been described as a silent epidemic.
15:48So, what patterns of loneliness do you commonly observe amongst men?
15:52And why is it often missed?
15:54And at the same time, what are the results of this internalized emotions?
16:00So, who are on the receiving end?
16:01Would it be the woman?
16:03The loneliness currently is a, yes, a silent epidemic, you know, and it's a serious health matters, not only mental health.
16:16Study, some consultant in the US said that the social isolation and also loneliness has become a risk of a health problem.
16:27Okay, and also, it is an increased heart problem compared to the people who are smoking 15 cigarette per day, you know, that's high, you know, the risk is very high.
16:41So, for me, the loneliness that syndrome that usually that I see in the day-to-day clinic, some of them,
16:52because due to, of the, we are getting older, you know, men are getting older, when they are getting older, the circle is become smaller, you know,
17:04when the circle becomes smaller, they have less emotional support, is compared to the women, you know,
17:12so, and men usually have bonding through his friend by doing some activities, like playing football, pickerball, you know,
17:24footsall, leopard king, or playing games, you know, so this bonding through activities less, what we call time to us,
17:36or not enough space to ask either, are you okay, or they doesn't want to, not enough time to tell what they are having problem to other colleagues.
17:50And also, this shoulder-to-shoulder bonding is not face-to-face bonding.
17:56So, and this man usually will have functional but empty, you know, so as I said just now, they work, going, go home,
18:12and then the cycle going on, and then the inside, he feels disconnected and feel numb, numb, numb, being symptom.
18:19They usually scrolling phone, and then when they're having some problem, usually man doesn't show or tell they have been,
18:26that they will appear with anger, you know, appears with irritability, sometimes they also withdrawn, okay, from isolate from their community.
18:40So, from this we can see that the loneliness syndrome can make some person become, their mental health become deteriorating
18:52in terms of the physical heart, as well as the society connection, and just I said, the men usually disappear when they are having problem.
19:05If women, they are crying, they are crying, but men usually, they keep silent, they doesn't texting or replying our messaging, you know,
19:16so when this problem happens in men who doesn't know how to handle with stress or coping, having a good coping skill,
19:27so they're having some serious mental health issues or crisis which lead to, like, depression, you know,
19:36the worst case scenario is maybe suicidal, you know.
19:39So, actually, we see, we taught a boy not to feel, having a feeling, you know, not to have a feeling, but when they are growing up,
19:51they don't know how to deal or how to heal the emotion.
19:56Okay, so, like, you were saying that, because I think it's quite common, if you talk about, like, husband and wife,
20:03when they have an issue, normally the wife or the woman will be non-stop talking, isn't it?
20:08If you see all these cartoons or whatever you can see on Instagram, and the men will just keep quiet.
20:13I mean, is that something which is a red flag sign that if in a relationship, or is it, should we, the woman,
20:20feel worried if we have our counterparts who, like, you want to resolve something, but they don't say anything?
20:26But sometimes, there are times also that they need some time, so you have to give time to them.
20:31So, when do we know that, okay, this is sufficient time we have given to this person,
20:36or this person is actually dealing with something which is quite sinister that I have to probably bring him to see a psychiatrist?
20:43I mean, I would say the red flag sign is the sign and symptoms.
20:46A deadly sign, something like that.
20:48Yeah, actually, we need a partner or support system in our daily life, you know,
20:55either our wife, partner, or friends, you know, so that they can see,
21:02either we have some changes of behavior, you know, so those men who are showing changes of behavior,
21:09like suddenly snap into a small thing, you know, easily irritable, easily anger,
21:16towards about a tribal matter, you know, and then they're having some sleeping issue as well.
21:22They have restless during at night, they're having some nightmare, and then difficult to initiate sleep.
21:30At some time, they're having some intermittent awakening in the middle of the night.
21:34So, the better sleep is a sign of a good mood, okay, but other than that,
21:42they have some of the men that can show some problem like what we call the work quality,
21:53work performance is deteriorating.
21:55They may become less focused, and then they may become, cannot complete the job,
22:03the task that usually that he used to complete within the time,
22:07and that's, of course, need to be concerned, either from the partners and as well the colleague, okay.
22:15Other than that, those men who are suffering some mental issue,
22:18they usually come with a loss of interest, okay, less, maybe doesn't want to do activities,
22:27that hobbies that he used to like to do, and then, so it's also a sign of the early sign symptom.
22:33So, when this early sign symptom is happened in our partners or in men, you see,
22:39so we need to take care of, which is need to bring them or advise them to see the professional help
22:48so that we can treat them earlier, doesn't want the symptom become worse and affected the whole life.
22:57All right, okay, so for all the viewers out there, I think Dr. Future has some sort of listed down
23:04what are the red flag signs, like in a normal, like if you want to talk about heart attack,
23:09we talk about the signs and symptoms, but that is very obvious,
23:12but in psychiatric issues and mental health, it's not very easy, it's quite subtle.
23:17So, to those who are, I mean, their partners, we have to be, I mean, I would say the wife would be,
23:25this is the best person to actually judge and also, because you've been,
23:28if you've been living with a person for the past 10 years,
23:31so any change for the next few years would have triggered,
23:34so you would know that something is not right.
23:37And I think the best person is either the wife and the spouses and the family,
23:42even if those who are not married, the colleagues, I mean,
23:45because you can see, like what Dr. Future has mentioned, sometimes they easily snap,
23:49sometimes they can't, in terms of, if it's not because of anger,
23:52it's maybe they can't complete their tasks and their job as per routine.
23:56So, if, like, the bosses, if they see their employer are not performing,
24:03rather than punishing them, sometimes you just have to sit and chat and try to look into it,
24:09because that could be one of the few subtle signs that they are probably in the initial stage
24:14of dealing with mental health issues.
24:16Okay?
24:17So, when we talk about man loneliness syndrome,
24:20so, Raf, from your observation, you have mentioned just now,
24:23there are people come to you to share, okay?
24:26So, maybe you don't have to mention whoever,
24:29but just from your experience that maybe you have listened,
24:31or from your personal experience,
24:33how does this loneliness show up in the man's daily lives?
24:36I mean, for you as a public figure,
24:38people might have, would have said that,
24:41oh, he's a public figure,
24:42he has a few hundred thousands of followers,
24:45how can he become lonely?
24:47You know, like, it doesn't make sense.
24:48So, maybe you can share in terms of this,
24:51whether it's at work, in relationships, or friendships,
24:54you know, that kind of thing.
24:56Okay, I think this loneliness topic is very common for men,
25:00it's just that we haven't discussed about this openly.
25:03But if you ask me,
25:05loneliness can happen in many reasons,
25:07even in the workplace, right?
25:09I have a friend who,
25:11they say that, you know,
25:12I'm working with a bunch of people,
25:15but at the same time, I feel lonely.
25:16And I ask him,
25:18what do you mean by you being lonely?
25:19I have so much stress for my work,
25:22but I don't have the chance to open up to anyone.
25:23So, that is part of loneliness.
25:25And if you talk about relationship,
25:27you talk about a man and a woman in a relationship,
25:31sometimes it can be very one-sided.
25:32One-sided, why?
25:33Because often,
25:35men tend to keep things inside.
25:37So, when their partner starts speaking up,
25:38so, what does men do?
25:39Keep things inside,
25:40swallow, swallow, and swallow.
25:42So, lack of communication can also cause
25:45all this loneliness in a guy,
25:46even if he has a partner.
25:48And last but not least,
25:49friendship.
25:50Yep, I mean,
25:51for me,
25:52you can have
25:52100, 200,
25:54even 1,000 worth of friends,
25:57but what's the point of you
25:58if you can have a single friend
25:59that you can open up about life?
26:01So, for me,
26:02this loneliness topic is
26:04interesting because
26:05it's not about you being lonely,
26:07it's about who you can trust
26:08to talk about something in your life.
26:11So, yeah,
26:11it's a common case for men.
26:13Okay,
26:13because,
26:14like,
26:15what Raf has mentioned,
26:16it's not,
26:17sometimes people feel that
26:18the quantity matters.
26:20Basically,
26:20it's the quality of friends
26:21that you have.
26:22And,
26:22what Richard has mentioned,
26:23as we get older,
26:24I don't think only men,
26:25like women,
26:26myself,
26:26also,
26:27as compared to before,
26:28your circle of friends
26:29will get smaller and smaller.
26:31I mean,
26:31but I always tell myself,
26:33it's okay,
26:33it's better to have
26:35smaller group of people,
26:36but these are the people
26:37that you can depend on
26:39and you can share everything.
26:40Because sometimes,
26:41some people feel that
26:42they need to,
26:43those who are free,
26:44they need to chat
26:44every single day.
26:45But,
26:46I have been reading
26:47and actually,
26:48a good friend is wherever,
26:50they just know
26:51when you are not okay,
26:52although you don't chat
26:53with them every single day,
26:54isn't it?
26:56Okay,
26:56so,
26:57Raf having,
26:58you have
26:58three,
26:59two,
26:59three kids?
27:00Two plus three.
27:03Two plus three,
27:04okay.
27:04So,
27:05family roles
27:06often shape
27:07a man's identity.
27:08So,
27:08how do expectations
27:09to be,
27:10like in your case,
27:10a provider,
27:11a leader,
27:12a role model,
27:13okay,
27:13an influencer,
27:14would influence
27:16man's mental health
27:17today?
27:18Do you think
27:19with the country's
27:20economic demands,
27:21cost of living,
27:22as we can see nowadays,
27:24and social pressure,
27:25especially with social media
27:26today,
27:26maybe people see Raf,
27:28oh my God,
27:28this,
27:29he,
27:29he's very like famous,
27:31he can do all this,
27:32and so some of the men
27:33might feel that,
27:34oh,
27:34he wants to be like you,
27:35you know,
27:35that kind of thing.
27:36So,
27:36I mean,
27:37so they will have
27:38that social pressure itself,
27:39has changed the way
27:40we live our lives.
27:42Do you think that
27:43is true,
27:44and maybe you could
27:44give some advice
27:45to those out there?
27:47Yeah,
27:47first of all,
27:48I feel so sorry
27:49for my generation,
27:50and even my younger generation,
27:51because it comments
27:52that
27:52every now and day,
27:54people will compare,
27:55you know,
27:56every now and day,
27:56people will compare
27:57people in this life,
28:00in that life,
28:00you know,
28:01I mean like,
28:01to be honest,
28:03for me,
28:04being a role model
28:05is not about being perfect.
28:06Being a role model
28:07is all about
28:07carrying your responsibility
28:09to what you have
28:10at your present stage.
28:12You can't compare
28:12with those who are having
28:1350,000 K a month,
28:15you can't compare with those
28:15having 5,000 a month,
28:16it's completely different.
28:18That's why
28:18I just posted this
28:19on track recently
28:20about Concept Bashuku.
28:21So,
28:24yeah,
28:24I mean,
28:25nowadays,
28:25you talk about
28:26being a provider,
28:27right,
28:27it's a huge topic recently,
28:29but then again,
28:30this provider issue
28:33for me is,
28:34it's not something
28:35that you could like,
28:36you know,
28:36like,
28:37look in one eye,
28:38it's serious,
28:39as a man,
28:40we need to be a provider,
28:41but then again,
28:43you have to be
28:43a good understanding
28:44with your spouse,
28:45with your partner.
28:45I mean,
28:46if you earn 3,000 a month,
28:47how can you live a life
28:49with those
28:49having 30,000 a month?
28:51I mean,
28:52this takes
28:53communication
28:54between your partner,
28:54you know,
28:55like,
28:55if you earn this much,
28:56you have to live this much,
28:57but if you earn
28:58that much,
28:59it's up to you
29:00however you want
29:00to live your life,
29:01but then,
29:02it causes a stir
29:03in social media
29:04because people compare.
29:05So,
29:06being a public figure,
29:07sometimes,
29:08if you show too much,
29:10it will give
29:10a different impression
29:11to people,
29:12but if you're being
29:13modest and humble,
29:14it's a good example
29:14to the netizens.
29:17So,
29:17for me,
29:18being modest is nice,
29:19being humble is nice,
29:20but then again,
29:21like I said,
29:22do not compare yourself
29:22with people out there
29:23and being a role model
29:25is not about being perfect.
29:26It's all about
29:27you have the right way
29:28of balancing,
29:30making people around you happy.
29:31That's more than enough.
29:32And it's true.
29:34I think,
29:34we are human,
29:36we are never perfect,
29:37you know,
29:38like nobody is perfect
29:38except for our Prophet Muhammad,
29:40isn't it?
29:40So,
29:41and so on and so on.
29:42And I like the point
29:43that he pointed out
29:44regarding the posting
29:46and also portraying
29:47on the social media
29:48because
29:49sometimes,
29:50I feel that
29:51we tend to,
29:53I mean,
29:54no offense to those
29:56who post this,
29:56but I feel that
29:57sometimes when you go,
29:58even you go to eat some,
30:00I mean,
30:00go outside and eat some food
30:01or when you want to unbox
30:02certain things,
30:03sometimes,
30:04even some people
30:06will feel that,
30:07oh,
30:07I want that,
30:08I want that kind of life,
30:09you know,
30:09like,
30:10but they don't know
30:11what their responsibilities
30:12and their means.
30:14Like you say,
30:14if someone is earning
30:15maybe 3,000
30:16versus maybe 30,000
30:18per month,
30:18so,
30:19and then,
30:20like you say,
30:21the spouse
30:21and also the,
30:22I mean,
30:22between the wife
30:23and the husband,
30:24mainly the nafkah,
30:25I would say,
30:26because sometimes nowadays
30:27it's a bit more,
30:29I would say,
30:30in the news,
30:31sometimes they feel
30:32that they would use
30:33the term that
30:34it's not being provided
30:35enough by the husband,
30:37but I think
30:38as coming from
30:39a woman point of view,
30:41I mean,
30:41we should look into it,
30:43not just putting everything
30:44on the man's,
30:45on your husband,
30:46isn't it?
30:47And nafkah is actually,
30:48if you really go into detail
30:50in the Islamic term,
30:53it's not how much amount
30:55that you should be giving,
30:57you know,
30:57it's giving a shelter,
30:58I mean,
30:59provide sufficient enough,
31:01it's not amount of number,
31:03I mean,
31:04the ringgit that you should
31:04be giving,
31:05isn't it?
31:06Maybe Dr. Fitcher
31:07would like to add on
31:08in terms of this social media
31:10pressure on the society,
31:13I mean,
31:13how it has influenced,
31:15I mean,
31:15do you get from your patients
31:17who actually come,
31:18I mean,
31:18since you see more patients,
31:20right,
31:20sometimes now this is
31:21the younger generations,
31:22maybe they say,
31:22oh,
31:22I want to be like this,
31:23I want to earn like this,
31:24I want to be rich,
31:25super rich,
31:26famous kind of,
31:26that kind of thing,
31:27crazy rich Asians,
31:28maybe,
31:29so,
31:29I mean,
31:30how it has influenced
31:31and has actually caused
31:32mental health issues
31:34and to the younger generations,
31:36maybe.
31:37Yeah,
31:37yeah,
31:37correct,
31:37correct,
31:38but I see more
31:40to the younger generation,
31:43the older generation,
31:45maybe not so much lah.
31:47Because I don't play
31:47social media much,
31:48the most,
31:49like my dad
31:49doesn't even have
31:50Facebook or Instagram,
31:51so,
31:52only WhatsApp.
31:53The younger generation only lah.
31:55who are coming to us
31:56sometimes with some
31:58symptoms like anxiety,
32:00you know,
32:00and depression,
32:02and sometimes having
32:03some addiction
32:03towards the gaming,
32:06you know,
32:06gaming and also
32:08porn addiction as well.
32:09So,
32:10the social media
32:11sometimes make,
32:12currently make a
32:13big role also,
32:15a factor towards
32:16the mental health issues
32:17in our society now.
32:19So,
32:20we need to
32:20take care of it,
32:22need to be aware,
32:24so that we
32:26doesn't miss
32:27anything
32:27in our family,
32:30especially
32:30our children lah.
32:33Okay,
32:34so just now we talk
32:35about a little bit
32:35of stigma,
32:36so I just want to
32:37ask Dr. Fitri,
32:38in terms of the
32:39Malaysian culture,
32:40not just Malay,
32:41I think all the,
32:41because we are
32:42multiracial,
32:43I think the Malaysian
32:45culture and the
32:46religious culture
32:46also plays a
32:47very big role
32:49in shaping
32:50a person's
32:51behavior,
32:52I wouldn't say
32:52only men,
32:53women and
32:54children,
32:54okay,
32:55how does this
32:56culture,
32:56cultural factors
32:57influence men
32:58willingness to
32:59talk about
32:59their mental health?
33:01I mean,
33:01do you see any,
33:02from your experience,
33:04any differences,
33:06any racial
33:07differences,
33:08or it's more or
33:09less the same?
33:10I mean,
33:11is there any
33:11issues in terms of
33:13there was no
33:14the data,
33:16we don't have
33:17that data,
33:18but overall,
33:20the patients,
33:21of course,
33:21they're having
33:22some cultural
33:23and as well
33:24the religious
33:25influence in terms
33:27of the main
33:28mental health
33:30issues,
33:30so for example,
33:33some of the
33:34people out there,
33:36they might have
33:37some misunderstanding
33:38about
33:39about the
33:43religious
33:44issues,
33:45maybe
33:46they think
33:48sabar is
33:50to keep quiet,
33:51for example,
33:53they think
33:53rather is
33:54not,
33:54doesn't need
33:55to seek help,
33:57and
33:57that's
34:01the misunderstanding
34:02in our
34:04society
34:04make them
34:07or influence
34:09some of
34:10this
34:10mental health
34:11issue,
34:12but if we
34:12look
34:13into our
34:14example,
34:16especially our
34:17Prophet Muhammad
34:19even though
34:20he had
34:21problem,
34:23he had
34:23faced some
34:24grief,
34:25he also
34:26seek help,
34:26he expressed
34:28his emotion
34:29towards the
34:29companion,
34:30get comfort
34:31and get
34:33guidance,
34:34so I think
34:35from this,
34:36if we
34:37getting help
34:39or seek help
34:40it's not
34:41a sign
34:42of lack
34:43of iman,
34:43it's not
34:45like
34:45or show
34:46some weakness,
34:48it is
34:48sunnah,
34:49so
34:50that's why
34:52we need
34:52to give
34:54awareness
34:54about
34:55what this,
34:55because some
34:56of the
34:56patients
34:58out there
34:59also think
34:59that they
35:00having
35:00some mental
35:01illness
35:01because of
35:02lack of
35:02iman,
35:03not praying
35:05enough,
35:06but actually
35:06the mental
35:08health issue
35:09is
35:09all
35:11towards
35:12from the
35:12children,
35:13either your
35:14CEO,
35:15your entrepreneur,
35:15you know,
35:16it's happened,
35:17so we
35:18don't need
35:19to
35:19labeling
35:20that such
35:21stigma
35:22towards
35:22other people,
35:24so that
35:24these people
35:25would
35:26really,
35:27really need
35:27help,
35:28need
35:29get some
35:30help
35:31in terms
35:32of
35:32professional
35:33help.
35:34Okay,
35:34so basically
35:35what I would
35:36say that
35:36mental health
35:37issues is
35:38not only
35:39certain,
35:40I mean,
35:40there's not
35:40a certain
35:41group of
35:41people only
35:42like you
35:42would say
35:42people who
35:44are wealthy
35:45or often
35:46people who
35:47will not
35:47have mental
35:47health issues,
35:48those are
35:48having mental
35:49health issues,
35:50normally those
35:50who are low
35:51social economics,
35:52so those
35:52things are
35:53not,
35:53it's not
35:54true,
35:54those are
35:54not true
35:55at all,
35:55I mean,
35:56so you
35:57can have
35:58people who
35:58are religious
35:59who have
35:59problems,
35:59because this
36:00is not
36:00something
36:00which is
36:01related to
36:02like he
36:02said,
36:03Iman or
36:03this,
36:04I mean,
36:04it's about
36:04the understanding
36:05and it's,
36:06I would say
36:07it's still
36:07called a
36:08disease,
36:09okay,
36:09if you
36:09talk about
36:10heart issues,
36:12lung issues,
36:12there's more
36:13physical things,
36:14but this is
36:14more internally,
36:16spiritually,
36:16so it's
36:17very difficult
36:18for people
36:18to digest
36:20that,
36:21but to
36:22all the
36:22viewers,
36:22don't worry
36:23if you
36:24are,
36:24you can
36:24be a
36:25CEO,
36:25you can
36:26be someone
36:27who is
36:28very,
36:28very influential,
36:29but you
36:30are not
36:30exempted
36:32from getting
36:33mental health
36:35issues.
36:37I would
36:37just want
36:37to ask
36:38Dr.
36:38Futri,
36:38is there
36:39any evidence
36:39based habits
36:40that men
36:42can adopt
36:42to improve
36:43both mental
36:44and also
36:44their physical
36:45health,
36:46especially
36:46those who
36:47are juggling
36:47demanding
36:48lifestyles,
36:49because nowadays
36:49we know
36:50not just
36:52men,
36:53women also,
36:53they are
36:54working,
36:55they are
36:56juggling
36:56with their
36:56children,
36:57they have
36:58the
36:59social
37:01income,
37:02the
37:03payments,
37:04there's a lot
37:05of wages
37:06that they
37:06have to
37:06deal with,
37:07so do you
37:08have any
37:09habits or
37:10evidence-based
37:11habits that
37:11have been
37:12proven and
37:13practiced
37:13globally
37:14that have
37:15helped
37:16in this
37:16kind of
37:17matter?
37:17Men or
37:19women usually
37:20need some
37:21better habits
37:22not complicated
37:24routine
37:25what I
37:27usually
37:28practice
37:28in my
37:30clinic
37:30usually
37:31we advise
37:32those who
37:33having some
37:33mental health
37:34issue
37:34the first line
37:36is either
37:37the therapy
37:38or we
37:39give some
37:40advice about
37:41need to
37:41take care
37:42about his
37:43or her
37:44physical
37:46health
37:46for example
37:48you can do
37:5020-20-20
37:51which is
37:5120 minutes
37:52of movement
37:5320 minutes
37:55of reflection
37:56and 20 minutes
37:58of learning
37:59so
38:01for 20 minutes
38:03early movement
38:03like you can
38:04do yoga
38:05early in the
38:05morning
38:06you know
38:06breezewalk
38:06etc
38:07and reflection
38:08like you
38:08are reading
38:09Quran
38:10or zikir
38:11and the
38:12learning
38:12you can
38:13learn
38:13a new
38:14thing
38:14you can
38:15read
38:15new books
38:16or you
38:17can listen
38:19to Sinar
38:20daily podcast
38:20so all
38:22these things
38:22can also
38:23make you
38:24some
38:25better man
38:25or woman
38:26out there
38:27and other
38:28than that
38:28you need
38:29to have
38:30some
38:31brotherhood
38:34time
38:35where
38:36we need
38:38to have
38:38honest
38:39conversation
38:40per week
38:41for example
38:42maybe after
38:43playing
38:45football
38:46or pickerball
38:47or anything
38:47or watch
38:48MUFC
38:51and
38:52mama
38:52so you
38:55can have
38:56that
38:56bonding time
38:58you can
38:58share the
38:59honest
38:59conversation
39:00with our
39:01colleague
39:01and then
39:02other than that
39:03you need
39:04to have
39:04sleep
39:04hygiene
39:05better
39:06sleep
39:07hygiene
39:07will give you
39:10a good mood
39:10okay
39:11and if you
39:12really really need
39:13some medication
39:15etc you can
39:15need to seek help
39:16either you need
39:17medication for sleeping
39:18medication or not
39:19sometimes
39:20it's not because of
39:22the sleeping issue
39:23solely
39:24but because there's
39:25other things
39:26that maybe you're
39:27having overthinking
39:28or anxiety
39:29etc
39:29and finally
39:32you can also
39:32have some
39:33exercise
39:34do some
39:34exercise
39:35like
39:37jogging
39:37you know
39:38and
39:39need to
39:40reduce the
39:41toxic
39:42coping
39:42mechanism
39:43like
39:44smoking
39:45like
39:46ring
39:48alcohol
39:48etc
39:49or wash
39:49on
39:50so you
39:50need to have
39:51some good
39:52coping
39:52mechanism
39:53healthy
39:53mechanism
39:54so that
39:55you will
39:56be a better
39:57man out
39:58there
39:58later on
39:59okay
39:59all right
40:00that's a
40:00quite insightful
40:01notes
40:03okay
40:03that has been
40:04given by Dr. Futri
40:05so Raf
40:06just want to ask
40:06burnout is becoming
40:08more common
40:09in the younger
40:10generations
40:11I would say
40:11but I think
40:12not just younger
40:13men
40:14okay
40:14those
40:14I think
40:15most who are
40:15working
40:16I would say
40:16so what strategies
40:18or habits
40:18that help you
40:20because you have
40:20a very busy schedule
40:21he also has
40:22something else
40:22after this
40:23and I've been
40:24seeing his
40:24stories
40:25he's in the car
40:27he's this one
40:27I have this
40:28this and that
40:28so what strategies
40:29or habits
40:30help you maintain
40:31balance and
40:32prevent burnout
40:33and is there
40:34any way that
40:35by your social
40:36media
40:36how does it
40:37how have you
40:38helped people
40:39if those people
40:40who actually
40:40reach out for you
40:41like you have
40:41some people
40:42have DM you
40:43telling you
40:44stories
40:44I mean like
40:45telling you
40:45what they have
40:46I mean
40:46gone through
40:47I mean
40:47so how would
40:48you actually
40:49help them
40:50and also
40:50you yourself
40:51have you
40:52experienced
40:52burnout
40:53personally
40:54yes of course
40:55burnout
40:56is pretty
40:57normal
40:57especially
40:58for men
40:59and even
40:59for women
41:00but for me
41:01how do I
41:02overcome that
41:03Alhamdulillah
41:04I've been brought up
41:05with my
41:06late father
41:06Arwah Ratuh Yaqub
41:07bin Muhammad
41:07he was the
41:08secretary general
41:09for Barisan National
41:10for 20 years
41:10he works under
41:11four different
41:13foreign ministers
41:13so he's a busy man
41:15so I was
41:16saying
41:16Papa you're so busy
41:18how do you
41:19manage your life
41:19but he's the
41:21kind of guy
41:22you know
41:22our father
41:23he didn't use
41:24iPhone
41:24he used just
41:25a normal Nokia
41:26phone
41:26but he has
41:27his notes
41:27he has his notes
41:28where he key in
41:29all his schedule
41:30and all his
41:30timetables
41:30so now we
41:32younger generation
41:32we have phones
41:33we have Google
41:34calendar
41:35so I use Google
41:36calendar all the time
41:36so I would
41:38separated all the
41:39colours
41:39in terms of
41:40the priorities
41:41from work
41:41from gym
41:42company A
41:43company B
41:43company C
41:44everything have
41:45different colour
41:45coded
41:46even the kids
41:47even if I have
41:49I mean I used to
41:49have a wife
41:50everything is
41:51colour coded
41:51so I would
41:53prioritise
41:54the most important
41:55thing
41:55to what the
41:56first few days
41:57of the week
41:57so usually
41:59from morning
42:00to evening
42:00I would do
42:01the most important
42:02things to do
42:02get it done
42:04and then you
42:04move on to the
42:05next one
42:05and then you
42:06have to remember
42:07that how long
42:09you can work
42:10in a week
42:10so for me
42:11I work Monday
42:11to Friday
42:12so every Saturday
42:13I'll take half day
42:14for my own
42:15me time
42:16men's do need
42:17me time
42:17remember that
42:18and then half a day
42:19for the kids
42:19and Sunday
42:20full day with the
42:21kids
42:21so it's all about
42:22you
42:23time management
42:24it's all about
42:25how you balance
42:25your schedule
42:26throughout your life
42:26set your priorities
42:27and once you
42:29set your priorities
42:30the rest will go
42:30with ease
42:31because you can
42:32play around
42:32jump here
42:33jump there
42:33but for me
42:38it's all about
42:39prioritizing your schedule
42:41and time management
42:42do you
42:43use your social media
42:44to probably
42:46reach out to those
42:47who
42:47I mean
42:47who has
42:48you can see
42:49probably
42:49they're having problems
42:51so I mean
42:51how about your social media
42:53have you been using
42:54your social media
42:55to reach out
42:56to this kind of people
42:57well yeah
42:59I mean
43:00every now and then
43:01every now and then
43:04I do
43:04post something like
43:06it's okay
43:07for men's
43:08to be vulnerable
43:10it's okay
43:11for men's
43:12to show that
43:13you have lots
43:14of problems
43:14it's okay
43:15for men's
43:15to speak up
43:16about it
43:16and need help
43:17because there
43:18are people
43:20like me
43:21now I'm single
43:21I don't have a partner
43:23that you need
43:24someone to talk about
43:25and if you don't have
43:26that someone
43:26who you need to talk to
43:27you want to have
43:28quality people
43:29around you
43:29that you could speak up
43:30and try to find
43:31solution to your own
43:32problem
43:32so it's okay
43:34to speak up
43:34on social media
43:35I encourage that
43:36and if you feel
43:38that you don't
43:39want to do that
43:39you're shy
43:40and just DM
43:41whoever you want to
43:42if you're lucky
43:43you got reply
43:44if you're not
43:44then we try
43:45other person
43:45but try not to
43:47hold things inside
43:48it kills you slowly
43:49okay so basically
43:50try to open up
43:51I mean you can
43:52if you can't find
43:53someone
43:54whoever on the
43:55social media
43:56that you feel
43:56comfortable
43:57of course
43:57you can always
43:58find Dr. Fitri
43:59in your ITM
44:00to go and
44:01seek some
44:02medical professionals
44:05I would say
44:06tips
44:06and also
44:07counselling
44:07alright so
44:08how
44:09Dr. Fitri
44:10how can the
44:10healthcare providers
44:11make mental health
44:12services more
44:13reachable
44:14I would say
44:15approachable
44:16especially for men
44:17who are still hesitant
44:18because it's very
44:19difficult to get
44:20the men
44:20to come up
44:22okay
44:22I mean even
44:22the women also
44:23but slowly I think
44:24the Malaysians
44:25are slowly picking up
44:26so how would you say
44:27I mean for your
44:28colleagues
44:28your psychiatrist
44:29colleagues out there
44:30okay
44:32maybe we need to
44:34use
44:36a simple
44:37words
44:38don't use
44:40a medical
44:40jargon
44:40explain the
44:42things
44:43very simple
44:45so that
44:47they understand
44:48properly
44:49and maybe
44:51we can
44:52have a
44:53structured
44:54session
44:55because
44:56men
44:57is like
44:58a simple
44:59step
45:00you know
45:00and then
45:01they are
45:01planning
45:02planner
45:02you know
45:03okay
45:03so
45:03better have
45:04a structured
45:05planning
45:06of the
45:06our session
45:07need to
45:11reassure
45:12the demand
45:13about
45:14PIC
45:15private and confidential
45:16prior to
45:18start our
45:19session
45:19and
45:21this
45:22is
45:22really
45:23very
45:24very
45:24big thing
45:25because
45:26if
45:27men
45:28because
45:29if
45:30they doesn't
45:31feel safe
45:31they will not
45:33come forward
45:35and doesn't want
45:36to open up
45:37and
45:38if men
45:39want to open up
45:40so
45:40they can
45:41feel
45:41heal
45:42and
45:42become
45:44better
45:44and
45:45other than that
45:46maybe
45:46can have
45:48the online
45:48option
45:49like
45:50teleconsultation
45:52some
45:53of the
45:54patient
45:54may be
45:54far away
45:55or having
45:56a busy
45:56schedule
45:57like
45:57rough
45:57difficult
45:59and then
45:59traffic jam
46:00come to
46:00the clinic
46:01so
46:02parking
46:03so
46:04maybe
46:04can
46:04make
46:06an
46:06appointment
46:07through
46:08the
46:08online
46:09session
46:09right
46:10so
46:12before
46:12we come
46:12to the
46:13end
46:13maybe
46:14rough
46:14could
46:14actually
46:15how
46:15would
46:15you
46:15redefine
46:17the
46:17means
46:17of
46:18a
46:18successful
46:18malaysian
46:19man
46:19I
46:20would
46:20say
46:20today
46:21what
46:21qualities
46:22would
46:22you
46:22prioritize
46:23your
46:23traditional
46:24expectations
46:24you know
46:25okay
46:28I mean
46:29let's be
46:29honest
46:30guys
46:30I
46:30mean
46:30coming
46:33for me
46:33you have
46:33to listen
46:33when it
46:35comes to
46:35successful
46:36men
46:37it's not
46:37about
46:38wealth
46:38it's not
46:39about
46:39your
46:39status
46:40it's not
46:40about
46:40that
46:41none
46:41none
46:41of it
46:42trust
46:42me
46:42it's
46:43about
46:43your
46:43responsibilities
46:44towards
46:45your
46:45loved
46:45ones
46:45if you
46:46manage
46:47to make
46:48your wife
46:48your kids
46:49happy
46:49that is
46:50to me
46:50it's already
46:51good enough
46:51more than
46:52enough
46:52actually
46:53because
46:53again
46:54sometimes
46:55social media
46:56can prank
46:56you
46:57you've
46:57seen
46:57this guy
46:58that guy
46:58da da da
46:59da da
46:59I mean
47:00it's nice
47:00to see
47:01don't get
47:01me wrong
47:01they're all
47:02my friends
47:02anyway
47:02let's be
47:06honest
47:06let's be
47:06realistic
47:07if you
47:08can make
47:08your wife
47:08happy
47:09your kids
47:09happy
47:10your mom
47:10your dad
47:10happy
47:11that is
47:11to me
47:12is already
47:12successful
47:13as a human
47:13being
47:14it's not
47:15about how
47:15much you
47:15have in
47:16your pocket
47:16it's about
47:16how much
47:17love you
47:17give to
47:17them
47:17and how
47:18much
47:18time
47:18you
47:18give
47:18to
47:19them
47:19that's
47:19all
47:19okay
47:20okay
47:20I totally
47:20agree
47:21with that
47:21because
47:21sometimes
47:22what
47:23you
47:23I mean
47:24money
47:24is not
47:25everything
47:25you know
47:26money
47:26is needed
47:27it's something
47:28but it's not
47:29entirely
47:30that money
47:31doesn't give
47:31you 100%
47:32happiness
47:32okay
47:33so
47:33I totally
47:35100%
47:36agree
47:36with what
47:36Raf has
47:37mentioned
47:37as long as
47:38you can
47:39make
47:39your loved
47:39ones
47:39happy
47:40because
47:40you can
47:41probably
47:41earn
47:42not much
47:42but
47:43you can
47:43give
47:44enough
47:45to them
47:45and they're
47:46happy
47:46with whatever
47:47that you
47:47have given
47:47it's more
47:48than
47:48enough
47:49I mean
47:49sometimes
47:49you can
47:50see
47:50some
47:51okay
47:51people just
47:52go out
47:53with their
47:53family
47:53kids running
47:54around
47:54maybe like
47:55five six
47:55kids running
47:55around
47:56so they're
47:56happy enough
47:57and they
47:57don't have
47:58to have
47:58big luxury
47:59cars
47:59but they
48:00are content
48:01with what
48:01they have
48:01isn't it
48:02that's another
48:03thing on
48:03family
48:03what about
48:04you working
48:04for a
48:05company
48:05I mean
48:05like if
48:05you could
48:06be a
48:07good
48:07staff
48:09to your
48:09boss
48:10you could
48:11elevate the
48:11staff
48:12performance
48:12the company's
48:12performance
48:13that's also
48:13good enough
48:14for you
48:14you know
48:14it doesn't
48:15mean that
48:17sometimes
48:18being a
48:19staff
48:19you can
48:20do your
48:21task
48:21perfectly
48:21that's fine
48:22all right
48:23any last
48:25few words
48:25from Dr. Fitri
48:26for the
48:28psychiatric
48:29for the
48:30men who
48:31are struggling
48:32out there
48:32I mean
48:33maybe you
48:34want to
48:35reach out
48:35to them
48:36you know
48:37to the
48:40men listening
48:41out there
48:42so
48:44your
48:44mental health
48:46is matter
48:47your
48:48struggle
48:48is real
48:49you
48:51are
48:51allowed
48:52to be
48:53human
48:54you are
48:54allowed
48:54to feel
48:55sad
48:55you are
48:57allowed
48:57to feel
48:58stress
48:59or anger
49:00okay
49:01and
49:02being
49:03a
49:04stronger
49:05man
49:06is
49:06not
49:08people
49:09not
49:10a
49:10man who
49:11doesn't know
49:12how to
49:12feel
49:13or face
49:14the
49:14feeling
49:15the
49:16stronger
49:18man
49:19is
49:20when they
49:20know
49:20how to
49:22get help
49:23and
49:23how to
49:24reach out
49:24when they
49:25need it
49:26okay
49:27so
49:28Raf would
49:29want to
49:29add on
49:30anything
49:30yeah
49:31to
49:32your followers
49:32my
49:34health
49:36and wellness
49:36apps
49:37I'm gonna
49:38launch it
49:38soon
49:38it's called
49:39Resolute
49:40so in
49:41Resolute
49:41I'm gonna
49:42talk about
49:42how
49:43how to
49:44eat right
49:44in Malaysia
49:45I'm gonna
49:46talk about
49:46I mean
49:47in the
49:47apps
49:47you have
49:48AI
49:48helps
49:49for
49:49asking
49:50opinions
49:50on
49:50medical
49:50simple
49:51things
49:52health
49:52also
49:53interestingly
49:54about
49:56mental health
49:57Resolute
50:00so
50:01when
50:02will
50:02we
50:03launch
50:03and
50:05anytime
50:06well
50:06currently
50:06that
50:07application
50:08has been
50:08used
50:08in India
50:09for 5
50:09years
50:10and
50:10they
50:10have
50:10about
50:1116,000
50:11users
50:11they're
50:12all
50:12Amazon
50:12workers
50:13so now
50:13I'm
50:13gonna
50:14introduce
50:14in
50:14Malaysia
50:14so
50:15inshallah
50:16before
50:16end
50:17year
50:17we
50:18will
50:18be
50:19looking
50:19forward
50:19for
50:19that
50:20for
50:20those
50:20who
50:21are
50:21listening
50:22I
50:22mean
50:22you
50:22can
50:23spread
50:23you
50:23can
50:23viral
50:24this
50:24that
50:24Raf
50:24is
50:25coming
50:25out
50:25with
50:25an
50:26app
50:26Resolute
50:27to help
50:28all those
50:28people
50:28out
50:29there
50:29not
50:29just
50:29men
50:30women
50:30whoever
50:31who
50:31has
50:32any
50:32issues
50:32can
50:33download
50:33I
50:34mean
50:34it's
50:34an
50:35app
50:35yep
50:36okay
50:36and
50:37then
50:37just
50:38in a
50:38nutshell
50:38for
50:39those
50:39men
50:40since
50:41we're
50:41talking
50:41in
50:41the
50:41Movember
50:42who
50:43are
50:43struggling
50:44who
50:44have
50:44issues
50:45please
50:45don't
50:46be
50:46shy
50:47of
50:48coming
50:48forward
50:48we
50:49are
50:50here
50:50to
50:51help
50:51you
50:51out
50:51you
50:51can
50:52maybe
50:53if
50:53you
50:53are
50:53shy
50:53you
50:53can
50:53DM
50:54Raf
50:54and
50:55if
50:55you
50:56have
50:56issues
50:56if
50:57you
50:57are
50:57more
50:58straight
50:59forward
50:59you
50:59don't
51:00mind
51:00coming
51:00you
51:00can
51:01open
51:01up
51:01and
51:01come
51:01and
51:02see
51:02Dr.
51:04Fitri
51:04you
51:05can
51:05DM
51:05us
51:06any
51:06one
51:07of
51:07us
51:07whoever
51:07that
51:07you
51:07feel
51:08comfortable
51:08any
51:09psychiatrist
51:09any
51:09public
51:10figure
51:10if
51:10you
51:10feel
51:10that
51:11they
51:11are
51:12suffering
51:12or
51:12they
51:13probably
51:13have
51:14the
51:14similar
51:14experience
51:14with
51:15you
51:15want
51:15to
51:15ask
51:15for
51:15help
51:16is
51:16there's
51:16no
51:17wrong
51:17in
51:17that
51:17and
51:18for
51:18the
51:18men
51:18out
51:18there
51:19by
51:20asking
51:20help
51:21by
51:21opening
51:21up
51:22doesn't
51:22make
51:22you
51:22less
51:23of
51:23a
51:23man
51:23okay
51:24so
51:24just
51:24remember
51:25that
51:26okay
51:26thank
51:26you
51:26Dr.
51:27Fitri
51:27thank
51:27you
51:27Ralph
51:28of
51:29course
51:29we
51:29want
51:29to
51:29explore
51:30more
51:30but
51:30I'm
51:30getting
51:31cues
51:31from
51:31my
51:31the
51:32studio
51:33people
51:33that
51:33we
51:33have
51:34run
51:34of
51:34time
51:35thank
51:36you
51:36for
51:36your
51:37honest
51:37and
51:37also
51:37insightful
51:38perspective
51:38today's
51:39discussion
51:39reminds
51:40us
51:40that
51:40men's
51:41health
51:41is
51:41not
51:41just
51:42about
51:42physical
51:42strength
51:43okay
51:43yes
51:44of
51:44course
51:44Ralph
51:45has
51:45mentioned
51:45you
51:45can
51:45see
51:45the
51:46masculinity
51:46whether
51:47they
51:47are
51:47buff
51:48or
51:48not
51:49that
51:49you
51:49can
51:49measure
51:49but
51:50internally
51:50it's
51:51very
51:51difficult
51:51because
51:52at work
51:56they are
51:56good
51:56they are
51:56performing
51:57but
51:57inside
51:58they are
51:58empty
51:58it's
52:00about
52:00emotional
52:00resilience
52:01openness
52:02balance
52:02and
52:02support
52:03to the
52:04men
52:04who are
52:04listening
52:05seeking
52:05help
52:06is not
52:06a sign
52:06of
52:06weakness
52:07it doesn't
52:09make you
52:10less of
52:10a man
52:10it's
52:11okay
52:11you are
52:12much more
52:13a man
52:13if you
52:14come
52:15forward
52:16and
52:16acknowledge
52:17your
52:17weaknesses
52:18as a
52:19woman
52:19I would
52:19say
52:20I'm
52:20impressed
52:21you're
52:21willing
52:22to
52:22open
52:22up
52:23and
52:23talking
52:23about
52:24your
52:24struggles
52:24doesn't
52:24make
52:25you
52:25less
52:25of
52:25a
52:25man
52:25it makes
52:26you
52:26a
52:26human
52:26because
52:27all
52:27of
52:27us
52:27we have
52:28issues
52:28okay
52:29whether
52:29you are
52:29a man
52:30woman
52:30young
52:31old
52:31children
52:31so
52:32we
52:32all
52:32have
52:33issues
52:33so
52:33by
52:34talking
52:34out
52:35by
52:35finding
52:35the
52:35right
52:36way
52:36and
52:36the
52:36right
52:37person
52:37is
52:38the
52:38way
52:38for
52:38us
52:38to
52:39solve
52:39our
52:40matters
52:40and
52:40also
52:41our
52:41problem
52:41and
52:42it
52:42makes
52:42us
52:42much
52:43stronger
52:51whatever
52:52we are
52:52right
52:52now
52:53but
52:53it
52:54just
52:54makes
52:54us
52:54stronger
52:54okay
52:55what
52:55I mean
52:56so
52:56don't
52:57worry
52:57for
52:58coming
52:58forward
52:58because
52:59we
52:59have
52:59solution
53:00for
53:00you
53:00all right
53:01let's
53:01continue
53:02breaking
53:02the
53:02silence
53:02and
53:03creating
53:03healthier
53:04more
53:04compassionate
53:04spaces
53:05from
53:06Malaysian
53:06men
53:06thank
53:07you
53:07for
53:07joining
53:07us
53:08with
53:08me
53:08Raph
53:09and
53:09also
53:09Dr.
53:09Fitri
53:10in
53:10our
53:10special
53:11edition
53:11this
53:12November
53:12November
53:13Men's
53:14Health
53:14Awareness
53:15Month
53:15and
53:16also
53:16hopefully
53:17to see
53:17all
53:18of
53:18our
53:21okay
53:22don't
53:22forget
53:22to
53:23subscribe
53:23to
53:23Sina
53:23Daily's
53:24Life
53:24and
53:24Star
53:24Podcast
53:25and
53:25also
53:25on
53:26our
53:26YouTube
53:26on
53:27our
53:27Instagram
53:27on
53:27our
53:28social
53:28media
53:28platform
53:29okay
53:29so
53:30I'll
53:30see
53:30you
53:30guys
53:30inshaAllah
53:31next
53:31month
53:31bye
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