00:00Does the question, Governor Brown, of Mr. Clinton's recent problems lead you to believe that he has an electability problem?
00:08Yeah, I think he's got a big electability problem.
00:09Well, what do you think it is?
00:10I want to tell you what it is.
00:12It was right in front of the Washington Post today.
00:15He is funneling money to his wife's law firm for state business.
00:18That's number one.
00:20Number two, his wife's law firm is representing clients before the state of Arkansas agencies, his appointees.
00:27And one of the key is the poultry industry, which his wife's law firm represents.
00:31And to read the local Chicago Tribune, there's 270 miles of Arkansas rivers that are polluted with fecal coliform bacteria and are unsafe for humans or fish.
00:41So it's not only corruption, it's an environmental disaster, and it's the kind of conflict of interest that is incompatible and the kind of public servant we expect from a president of the United States.
00:49It doesn't sound like you could run into his vice president.
00:51No, it doesn't.
00:53Mr. Clinton, do you want to take a swing at all that stuff?
00:57I feel sorry for Jerry Brown.
00:59I served with him as governor in the late 70s.
01:02He asked me to support him for president once.
01:04Did you?
01:05Of course not.
01:08You know, he reinvents himself every year or two.
01:11In 1990, he was pleading with the courts in California not to impose any limits on contributions.
01:17His law firm took $178,000 of taxpayers' money, taxpayers' money, to beat a contribution limit initiative in 1990.
01:25And so I don't think you can take much of what he says seriously.
01:28Now, let me tell you this.
01:29Well, can I just interject something?
01:30I mean, this guy just accused you of having so many fun legal fees to your wife and the poultry and whatever all that jazz was.
01:38Is that true or isn't it true, Governor Clinton?
01:41Wait a second, Bill.
01:42You're always trying to attack.
01:43You never answer the question.
01:44Mr. Brown, let him answer.
01:46Let me tell you something, Jerry.
01:48I don't care what you say about me.
01:50I knew when Pat Caddell told me what you were going to say, that you were going to reinvent yourself and you were going to be somebody else's mouthpiece, you would say anything.
01:58But you ought to be ashamed of yourself for jumping on my wife.
02:00You're not worth being on the same platform as my wife.
02:02I'll tell you something, Mr. Clinton.
02:03Don't try to escape it.
02:05Ralph Nader called me this afternoon.
02:07He read me the article from the Washington Post.
02:09Does that make it true?
02:09I was shocked by it.
02:10I was shocked by it because I don't think someone in government should be funneling money in his time.
02:15Governor Clinton, you were poking your finger at him.
02:17He poked it backwards.
02:18It's your turn, Governor Clinton.
02:19Jerry comes here with his family wealth and his $1,500 suit and makes a lying accusation about my wife.
02:25He's in the Washington Post.
02:26That doesn't make it true.
02:27Are you saying they lie?
02:28I'm saying that I never funnel any money to my wife's law firm.
02:32Never.
02:32Well, they got $115,000 in bond business from the state of Arkansas.
02:37And you told just the other day that when people lose their jobs, you know who they are.
02:41You certainly knew people in your own administration.
02:43Gentlemen, this nation is trying to elect a president.
02:46This nation is trying to elect a president.
02:47Won't you carry on?
02:48This is a critical issue.
02:50Let me answer this.
02:51The issue is every time I've ever run for office, because I have been a change agent,
02:57because I have worried about the problems of ordinary people,
03:00because I have given the kinds of programs that will change the lives of people.
03:04The people that run against me attack me personally.
03:07I have not attacked Jerry Brown personally.
03:09I have not attacked Paul Songhus personally.
03:11I have not said anything about their character or their history.
03:14They have done that to me.
03:15That's what everybody I've ever run against has always done.
03:18And guess what?
03:18I win, because I stand up for ordinary people and real change.
03:23And it is a crying shame that because they read the polls in the Chicago papers today,
03:28I get this kind of criticism.
03:30My wife is a fine person who has not done anything unethical.
03:34She has given tens of thousands of free dollars worth of free time to serving our state,
03:40to doing free work for the state.
03:42There's no telling what all she's done.
03:43Now, let me finish.
03:44That has nothing to do with the electability issue.
03:48In terms of my electability, I have been attacked repeatedly over years and years and years,
03:54and none of it's ever stuck with my people who are discriminating,
03:57because they know that I am a change agent.
04:00The only way we can win this election is with somebody who's tough enough
04:03to stand up to the kind of garbage the Republicans throw at you,
04:06the kind of personal attacks that I've been subject to in the last few days.
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