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00:30This is Late Night. We hope you're doing well.
00:31And now, if you don't mind, we're getting up to the news.
00:34On the 43rd day of the shutdown,
00:36President Trump signed a bill into law last night
00:39that reopens the federal government.
00:40And he's really hoping that's the only thing
00:43that gets reopened.
00:46I think just do the one, right?
00:50During their White House meeting earlier this week,
00:52President Trump reportedly sprayed Syrian President
00:55Ahmed al-Shara with his Victory 47 fragrance.
00:59And, long story short, we're at war with Syria.
01:04That's right. President Trump met with Syrian President
01:07Ahmed al-Shara at the White House
01:09and almost made it a full minute without insulting him.
01:13The other one is your wife.
01:14How many wives?
01:16Your wife?
01:18How many wives?
01:21Less than you, dog.
01:24House Speaker Mike Johnson said yesterday
01:26there'll be a vote next week on a bill to release
01:29all of the Jeffrey Epstein files.
01:30Wait, you mean this isn't all of them?
01:33Damn, this guy sends more emails than J. Crew.
01:36The Wall Street Journal published an article this week
01:40about FBI Director Cash Patel's use of a government jet
01:44for personal travel, including a trip to a wrestling event
01:47where his girlfriend would be singing.
01:48Wow, that is crazy.
01:49He has a girlfriend?
01:55President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump
01:57attended a foster care event today at the White House,
01:59but, unfortunately, there were no takers.
02:06The...
02:07No, shame on...
02:09Shame on all of us.
02:12The U.S. Mint yesterday ended production of the penny
02:14after 232 years.
02:16Well, still not the worst thing that ever happened to Lincoln.
02:25You guys agree, right?
02:27The U.S. Mint.
02:28President Trump's childhood home in Queens
02:31was recently listed for sale for $2.3 million
02:34after it was gutted and renovated,
02:37said the contractors,
02:38there was so much lead paint.
02:46The New York Times last week published a profile
02:48on three people who were in romantic relationships
02:51with AI chatbots.
02:52It's heartbreaking, and I know.
02:53I had a girlfriend in college who left me for Jeeves.
02:56And it's my fault.
03:01I remember one time I said,
03:02go ask someone else, and that was it.
03:07A Manhattan apartment was recently listed for $128 million.
03:11Apparently, it's got a washer-dryer.
03:19And, finally, a flamingo that went missing
03:21from a wildlife sanctuary in England
03:23and was recently spotted on a beach in northern France.
03:26Or, hear me out, flamingos lookalike.
03:30And that was a monologue, everybody!
03:33We got a great show for you tonight.
03:35She's a phenomenal actress.
03:37You know, from Homeland Fleischman is in Trouble,
03:39and, of course, the groundbreaking series,
03:41My So-Called Life.
03:42She's currently starring in The Beast and Me,
03:44streaming now on Netflix.
03:45Claire Danes is here, everybody.
03:47I'm so happy to be back.
03:49And you've seen him in Masters of the Air
03:52and the Fantastic Beasts franchise.
03:54He stars in Eternity,
03:55which will be in theaters everywhere on Thanksgiving.
03:58Callum Turner is joining us for the first time,
04:01but before we get to all that.
04:04The president's top aides held an emergency meeting
04:07in the Situation Room yesterday,
04:09not because of some conflict or a global crisis,
04:11but because his name is in newly released e-mails
04:14from Jeffrey Epstein.
04:15In fact, we have a picture of the president
04:17in the Situation Room,
04:18and here's what he's looking at on the screen.
04:22Mr. President, we got him, but him is me!
04:26Conundrum!
04:29For more on this, it's time for A Closer Look.
04:35For 10 years, 10 years, Trump's been wildly unpopular,
04:38by all accounts, the most unpopular president of all time,
04:41except for William Henry Harrison.
04:43We don't have enough polling on him
04:44because he died from a cold a month into his term.
04:47You know, it's a bummer that no one's ever tried
04:49to make a musical about him.
04:50I mean, wouldn't that be great?
04:51It would be called Harrison,
04:53and the best part is you'd be, like,
04:54in and out in 20 minutes, you know?
04:56My name is William Henry.
04:57Anyway, the point is, Trump's always been unpopular,
05:07but he's been able to hang on to power
05:09because he has a tight grip on the Republican Party.
05:11No matter what he did or how bad things got,
05:13his loyal followers in the GOP never doubted him until now.
05:17A new poll shows President Trump's approval rating plummeted
05:20during his second term in office.
05:22The Associated Press' NORC Center for Public Affairs Research Survey
05:26shows 33% of American adults approve of how Trump is managing the government.
05:31That is down 10 points from March.
05:34The decline is driven by Republicans and independents.
05:37About two-thirds of Republicans support the president,
05:40which is 13 points lower than what it was earlier this year.
05:44That's right. Trump is losing support among Republicans.
05:47Not all or even most of them, but enough to make a difference.
05:49Like, if you hold a dinner party for 10 people,
05:52and one of your guests says,
05:53You know what? You suck. This food sucks.
05:55You're a bad friend, and I'm leaving.
05:57The other nine people who stay aren't going to have the best time,
05:59you know?
06:00It's going to be a long, awkward silence until someone finally says,
06:03So, uh...
06:06Anyone see the new musical Harrison?
06:10But Republicans losing faith in Trump is a meaningful and real development,
06:14and it's not coming out of thin air.
06:15He's done a bunch of very specific things to piss off MAGA lately,
06:19like his defense of visas for foreign workers.
06:22President Trump's getting blowback by some of his supporters
06:24after he said America doesn't have enough highly skilled workers
06:27to fill certain jobs here.
06:28During an interview with Fox host Laura Ingraham,
06:30he defended the H-1B visa program
06:33that permits skilled workers to live and get jobs here.
06:35If you want to raise wages for American workers,
06:38you can't flood the country with tens of thousands
06:41or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.
06:42Well, I agree, but you also do have to bring in talent.
06:45When a country...
06:45Well, we have plenty of talented people here.
06:47No, you don't. No, you don't.
06:47We don't have talented people here.
06:49No, you don't have...
06:50You don't have certain talents, and you have to...
06:52People have to learn.
06:53You can't take people off an unemployment...
06:55Like, an unemployment line and say,
06:57I'm going to put you into a factory,
06:58or we're going to make missiles.
07:00Laura, Laura, listen, you can't expect me to make America great again
07:03with only Americans.
07:04I mean...
07:07You sound insane, Laura.
07:08And I'm sorry, did the President of the United States
07:11just say we don't have talented people in America?
07:14I happen to know four people who would disagree.
07:18But thank you so much for the pep talk, dude.
07:20You're the President. You're supposed to talk us up.
07:22You're supposed to be a mascot for America.
07:24This is like the time Mr. Met
07:26gave Mets fans the middle finger.
07:29We did not mock that up.
07:30That is a real...
07:33...thing that happened.
07:34The Mets broke Mets fans,
07:36and they, in turn, broke Mr. Met.
07:39And you don't want to do that,
07:40because he can go be a mascot for another team.
07:43I mean, Billy the Marlin is stuck with the Marlins,
07:45but a dude with a baseball for a head
07:48could represent any team.
07:50Watch. Hey, kids, look, it's Mr. Giant.
07:52Works as good, if not better,
07:55thanks to the fact that his head is giant.
07:58Point is, Mets fans, leave Mr. Met alone,
08:00or he's going to leave you.
08:01Also, sorry, I have to go back to this part.
08:02You can't take people off an unemployment line and say,
08:07I'm going to put you into a factory,
08:08or we're going to make missiles.
08:09Why are you on people in the unemployment line?
08:11If you didn't have a rich dad, that's where you'd be, my man.
08:14I mean, without a million bucks you inherited from your father,
08:16you'd be a guy in Queens who lost his job
08:19selling vacuums door-to-door because you kept saying,
08:21Excuse me, man, are you interested in a vacuum?
08:24Much like American workers, they absolutely suck.
08:28Also, your on American workers
08:33for not being able to build missiles like you could?
08:36You, by your own admission, don't even know what a magnet is.
08:39If China refused to give magnets
08:43because they have a monopoly on magnets,
08:44there wouldn't be a car made in the entire world.
08:46There wouldn't be a radio. There wouldn't be a television.
08:49There wouldn't be Internet. There wouldn't be anything
08:51because magnets are such a part.
08:52Now, nobody knows what magnets are.
08:55It's true.
08:57It's true.
08:59Nobody knows what magnets are.
09:02We've had our best scientists working on it,
09:04but they haven't made any breakthroughs.
09:06I mean, that was my favorite scene in Oppenheimer,
09:09when he meets with Albert Einstein and says,
09:10Albert, please, tell me what the hell a magnet is.
09:13And then Einstein says,
09:16No one knows!
09:18True story came down to me and one other guy
09:20to play Einstein in Oppenheimer,
09:22and as to why Christopher Nolan didn't pick me,
09:24No one knows!
09:30I also kept suggesting that after that,
09:31Oppenheimer would go, Albert!
09:35He said I didn't get the tone.
09:38But, sure, it's everyone else who can't learn
09:40how to build a missile in a factory.
09:42Seriously, think about how insane it is
09:43that the sitting President of the United States
09:45is saying America doesn't have talented people.
09:48He should be a cheerleader for America.
09:50And that's not me saying that.
09:51I got that from Trump.
09:52We're cheerleaders. That's a big part of it.
09:55And we're cheerleaders for our country.
09:56You know, I'm a cheerleader for the country.
09:58But I'm a cheerleader for our country.
10:00I'm a cheerleader for this country.
10:01I'm a cheerleader for the country.
10:03I'm a cheerleader for the country.
10:04I'm a cheerleader also for the country.
10:06You have to understand, I'm a cheerleader for this country.
10:09Great. Just a tip.
10:10When you cheer, like, make it positive.
10:12No one wants to hear it.
10:13Give me a W. Give me an E.
10:14Give me an S. Give me a U.
10:16Give me a C. Give me a K.
10:17We suck!
10:20So MAGA is mad at Trump over a variety of issues,
10:23from visas to inflation to the government shutdown.
10:26The only thing that could make this any worse
10:28is if Trump were somehow implicated
10:29in some sort of far-reaching conspiracy
10:32MAGA spent years obsessing over, you know,
10:34maybe involving a powerful elites
10:36and a cabal of sex traffickers and, oh, damn,
10:38you know I'm hearing myself and I'm realizing
10:40where this is going.
10:41Democrats in the House Oversight Committee
10:42have released new Jeffrey Epstein e-mails this morning,
10:45and in one of them, he claimed that Donald Trump,
10:48quote, knew about the girls.
10:50That's right.
10:51Jeffrey Epstein said Trump knew about the girls.
10:53Even worse, in the same e-mail, he said,
10:54Trump has no idea how the magnets work.
10:58This new batch of e-mails has caused a panic in Trump world,
11:01especially with the House on the verge of forcing a vote
11:03that would compel the Justice Department
11:05to release the full Epstein files.
11:07And you can tell Trump is flustered
11:08because on the day the e-mails broke,
11:10he did something very rare for him.
11:12He refused to take questions from reporters.
11:14Okay, thank you very much.
11:16I don't know if you have questions.
11:17I think we really have a really great situation.
11:25We have a country that we love,
11:26and we have a country that's in great shape.
11:28We've never had a time like this.
11:30Thank you very much, everybody.
11:31I appreciate it.
11:33Thank you very much.
11:37What a great day.
11:39It's a great day.
11:42Oh, man, I've never seen anyone look so sad
11:45while saying the words,
11:46It's a great day.
11:48He looks like a kid who asked for an Xbox for Christmas
11:51and got a jigsaw puzzle and said,
11:54Wow, 1,000 pieces. Yeah.
11:58Look at all that sky.
11:59You know how bad the news has to be for Trump not to take questions?
12:12That's the only part of the job he likes.
12:14He likes it so much, he'll sit there and ramble about how magnets are witchcraft.
12:18But yesterday he was busy.
12:20He and his team were holding emergency meetings over this Epstein bombshell.
12:23We've learned the White House has been working against the Epstein vote,
12:28reportedly meeting with Republicans like Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, which you mentioned,
12:32in the Situation Room of all places to try to convince her and others to remove their names from this discharge petition.
12:38Sources are telling CNN that top Trump administration officials held a meeting on this issue,
12:45not just at the White House, but in the Situation Room.
12:47Now, according to multiple sources, the meeting was said to have included the Attorney General, Pam Bondi,
12:52the Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, FBI Director Cash Patel, and Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert of Colorado.
13:01Boebert is one of the four Republican members of the House who has signed the petition.
13:09Man, you know you're in the s**t when you've got to count on Lauren Boebert to bail you out.
13:13Lauren Boebert is so crazy that when Cash Patel listens to her talk, he looks the way he always looks.
13:20It's taken 10 years, but we're finally seeing a sizable portion of the MAGA base grow frustrated with Trump,
13:26both on policy and on the Epstein scandal.
13:29It's still not a majority, but a growing number of Republicans are losing patience with Trump.
13:33After years of Trump and MAGA being attracted to each other like...
13:37Magnets.
13:38This has been A Closer Look.
13:44We will be right back with Claire Danes, everybody!
13:50For more of Seth's Closer Looks, be sure to subscribe to Late Night on YouTube.
14:05Our first guest tonight is an Emmy-winning actress you know from shows like Fleischmann is in Trouble and Homeland.
14:10She stars in The Beast and Me, which is streaming now on Netflix.
14:13Let's take a look.
14:14You don't want me talking to your father, you don't want me talking to Abbott, so what's the point?
14:19What about Madison's parents? Am I not supposed to talk to them either?
14:23You say you're misunderstood, but who's going to believe anything I write if I only talk to you?
14:28Although, considering how high my editor is on this project, she might tell me to write it anyway.
14:38The unauthorized version. Talk to everyone but you.
14:42You're pretty ballsy for someone negotiating a hundred stories up in the air.
14:50Please welcome back to the show our friend Claire Danes, everybody!
14:53Hello, it's so nice to see you!
14:58I'm so happy to see you, too. This is a fantastic thriller.
15:14You are a writer who has someone who moves in next door who might be a murderer.
15:19Yeah, yeah, you know.
15:20Do you ever feel like, I mean, I know you've lived in New York for a long time.
15:23Do you ever feel like you've maybe lived next to a murderer?
15:25Oh, I'm sure countless.
15:26Yeah.
15:27Although, weirdly, I survived!
15:29Yeah, congratulations. That's a lot of grit. You've got a lot of grit.
15:32Although, I grew up, you know, I've lived in New York a long time and when I think, like,
15:36I also grew up in the suburbs and I feel like those were probably half-murderers.
15:39Yeah, yeah.
15:41I think there's probably more out there than here, maybe.
15:43Yeah, I think in the here, everybody seems like they might, but in the end, they're not.
15:46Yeah.
15:47I think that's accurate.
15:48A lot of people will call these sort of stories cat and mouse.
15:53Uh-huh.
15:53I've heard you refer to it as snake and mongoose.
15:55Yeah, my manager, Michael, coined that phrase and I thought it was very apt.
15:59It seems more balanced and it just has a fun ring to it.
16:02Yeah, because cat and mouse, you're like, well, the cat wins.
16:06Yeah, not much suspense there.
16:08Yeah, but snake and mongoose, like, ooh, I want tickets to that.
16:12That was genuinely helpful.
16:14That's great.
16:15Matthew Rhys is the wonderful...
16:16Yeah, he's the mongoose or the snake.
16:17He's the mongoose, the snake.
16:18You tune in and find out.
16:20Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:21As you can tell from the clip where he was very in the shadows, he's playing...
16:25This is a very dark role for Matthew.
16:27Yeah, and he is the most charismatic, kind of beaming, joyful person.
16:33Yes, a joyful Welshman.
16:35Yes, yeah.
16:37But, you know, he funnels that to good effect here.
16:39He puts a sinister spin on it.
16:42And he's wonderful.
16:43You're wonderful, too, but, like, I feel like it's...
16:45I mean, you're in a scene with him and you know that's not him.
16:49Yes.
16:49Is it hard sometimes to, like, take his...
16:52I mean, I know what we're talking about is acting, but...
16:56I just feel like sometimes...
16:57You know what?
16:57Again, I'm bad at acting.
16:59You're good at acting.
16:59So, like, I feel like in those scenes, I'd be like, yeah, it's not him.
17:03No, no, it was just such a pleasure to bat these words around, you know?
17:07Yeah.
17:08Yeah, and he could, yeah, return every serve, you know, with even greater, you know, force.
17:14It is great words.
17:16And I was surprised to hear, because it was very twisty and turny, that when you began shooting,
17:22it was not fully written.
17:24No, no.
17:25Which is not the way you're supposed to plan it.
17:27Out of the eight.
17:28Three out of the eight.
17:29Yeah.
17:30I mean, I had the advantage of having worked with Howard for almost a decade on Homeland.
17:34Right.
17:35And he got us out of so many jams.
17:36So, you knew the skills were there.
17:38Yeah.
17:39Yeah, I had that confidence.
17:41My fellow cast members weren't afforded the same, you know.
17:44Right.
17:45Ease.
17:46Sense of ease.
17:47The same history.
17:48Yeah.
17:49But, yeah.
17:50And Daniel, another writer, is a dear friend and he had Thanksgiving with us.
17:53We have a place upstate and we have a yurt in the woods.
17:57Which became kind of a writer's retreat.
18:00Uh-huh.
18:01Because he owed that finale.
18:03So, we'd, like, throw him a, you know, like a drumstick.
18:05Okay.
18:06Like, come back with four pages and you can have some pie.
18:09So, now this is sounding like a snake in Mario story.
18:11Yes.
18:12Yes.
18:13But that was true.
18:14Wow.
18:15A writer's yurt.
18:16Yeah, well, it became one.
18:17Yeah.
18:18Over Thanksgiving break.
18:19How, what do you use the yurt for when you're not forcing someone to write?
18:22Yeah.
18:23Um, I don't know.
18:24Like, we played board games there with the kids.
18:26I don't know.
18:27It's like a little guest house.
18:28It's really sweet.
18:29So, the kids, are the kids excited to be in the yurt?
18:31We love the yurt.
18:32Yeah.
18:33We have a Keurig machine and they make hot chocolate.
18:35Great.
18:36I would love, I'm not judging a yurt.
18:37I would love to have a yurt.
18:38Yeah.
18:39And this isn't the only yurt in your life.
18:42No, we are yurt people.
18:43Okay, gotcha.
18:44And that is the correct terminology.
18:46Yes, yes.
18:47Okay, I know.
18:48I know it's always changing, but it is yurt people.
18:50People of the yurt, is that okay?
18:52I think that also, that also applies.
18:55But, no, so my parents live in Santa Monica on a little bungalow,
18:59but on a pretty generous plot of land.
19:01And they created a little yurt in their backyard,
19:04which is where we stay when we go.
19:06And it's so fun.
19:08It feels kind of like you're glamping.
19:10I mean, a vacation yurt seems, like, great.
19:12Yeah.
19:13And kids, I would imagine seeing grandparents,
19:15would love a yurt.
19:15Yeah.
19:16Like, do we know what a yurt is?
19:17It's like a circular structure.
19:18I like that we're just going to keep talking about it.
19:20Nobody knows.
19:22By the way, can I just say, Claire,
19:23that you entirely did a job that I should have done,
19:26like, way earlier in this interview.
19:28Like, that is, you fully did the host job right now.
19:32A yurt is a circular tent.
19:34Mongolian, like, originally.
19:36I think they were created in Mongolian.
19:38Anyway, and they have a big, like, sunroof,
19:41a big circular window.
19:43And so you get to see the sky.
19:45And it's just...
19:46A yurt, it does not have...
19:47Again, it's like a circular tent.
19:49A single edge.
19:50That's the thrill of it.
19:51Yep, it's a thrill of it.
19:51But, of course, when there's no edge,
19:53there's no real kitchen that you have a thing you can make.
19:55We know.
19:57We do have a bathroom.
19:59You do have a bathroom?
20:01I think we shouldn't maybe believe.
20:03Okay.
20:04So you have an illegal yurt bathroom.
20:06Yes.
20:09I mean, I'm glad it's getting out there.
20:11I just want to know what cops show up for this.
20:15And you just hear them outside.
20:16They're like, I don't know where the door is.
20:19The whole thing's a circle.
20:22Just, like, walking around.
20:23Walk around again.
20:25Find a corner.
20:25There's no quarters, Chief!
20:28I think we're not really doing any harm back there.
20:31What about your grandparents?
20:32Well, I'm sorry.
20:32What about your parents here?
20:33My parents.
20:34Do they have...
20:34My kids' grandparents.
20:35Yeah, no.
20:36No bathroom there.
20:36Because they're law-abiding.
20:37Super promised.
20:38Yeah, yeah.
20:39But, yeah, my parents are artists and they have studio.
20:41It's a whole world in the backyard.
20:43Gotcha.
20:44But, you know, you pee in the middle of the night
20:45and they have Crocs outside in every size
20:48for whomever is staying there.
20:50Really?
20:51Very thoughtful.
20:52So you put your Crocs on, you teeter out into the...
20:54But I'm always convinced, like, a possum is going to come
20:56and get me.
20:56Yeah, right.
20:57Because there's a lot of life in L.A.
20:59Yeah, there's a lot of...
21:00It's not, I mean...
21:01That's a lot of life.
21:02And if I were a possum, I'd hang out around a yurt.
21:05Because, you know, if they're playing by the rules,
21:08people got to come out to pee.
21:10So, you know.
21:11Anyway.
21:14Yeah.
21:15I don't know if people are going to run out
21:18and either buy a yurt after hearing this
21:20or run out and sell the yurts they currently.
21:22This was a successful pitch?
21:23I feel like it was good.
21:24Look, I've dropped...
21:25I remember there was a summer where my daughter went
21:28to, like, a summer camp where they would, like...
21:30They would go to a yurt if it was raining.
21:32Oh.
21:32And it was great.
21:34Yeah.
21:35Yeah.
21:35I do recommend them.
21:36Yeah.
21:37I mean, I think, like...
21:40I mean, I'd say they're not great for New York City.
21:43I mean, there's got to be a yurt somewhere.
21:45There's got to be one.
21:46In Brooklyn?
21:46There must be a lot.
21:47Whoa, there's a yurt in Brooklyn.
21:48You're right.
21:49There's probably people who, like, have, like, renovated
21:51their, like, second story of a brownstone is, like, a yurt.
21:53Yes.
21:54Yeah.
21:54I mean, unquestionably.
21:55Unquestionably.
21:57You're in another thriller that's coming up.
21:59Yeah.
22:00Where you're playing a neurosurgeon.
22:01Well, yes.
22:01We haven't even started shooting yet.
22:02Okay, gotcha.
22:03So early days.
22:04Super early.
22:05Yeah.
22:06But I had the great privilege of observing a brain surgery.
22:11So this is fantastic.
22:12This is you doing research for the part.
22:15Yes.
22:15And they said, I'm surprised they would allow you to observe
22:18such a thing.
22:19So am I.
22:20Gotcha.
22:21It seemed incorrect.
22:22Yeah.
22:23And they have something called a timeout.
22:25And so they prep the body.
22:27I thought it would be way more medical.
22:28You don't want to know what that means.
22:30The terminology is crazy that it's called a timeout.
22:32A timeout, a timeout.
22:34And everybody in the room has to, you know, announce themselves
22:37and state their purpose for being there.
22:39And boy, did I feel silly.
22:42Yeah.
22:43Um, Claire, really dumb actor, you know.
22:48Observer, I said.
22:49That's not it.
22:50But, no, it was very profound and moving.
22:53And I don't know.
22:55The boundaries were more porous than I thought they would be.
22:58Yeah.
22:59And I have to say, like, on a set, it's so much more protected.
23:02And we are so...
23:04We take it so much more seriously.
23:05Actors on the set, yeah.
23:07As if we are, in fact, saving lives.
23:09Right.
23:10And performing brain surgery, and we are not.
23:12No.
23:13No.
23:14So the contrast was striking and humbling.
23:17Yeah.
23:17Um, yeah.
23:18Do you think when the person whose brain was being operated on woke up,
23:21they said, Claire Danes was here?
23:22No.
23:23Claire Danes saw your brain.
23:25Yeah.
23:28And, uh, and she thought it was beautiful.
23:31She was.
23:32She's seen quite a few.
23:33Pretty impressed.
23:34And she said, you're stood out.
23:35Grade A brain.
23:37Um, uh, we share something, which is, uh, we got three New York City kids.
23:41So many kids.
23:42We got so many kids, and we're raising them in a place that's not the easiest place to raise so many kids.
23:47Yeah, I don't know.
23:47I mean, I grew up here, so it feels familiar and even kind of cozy.
23:51Yeah.
23:51But, yes, I accept that it may not be the most typical.
23:54Uh, you grew up, I mean, I think, look, there's always things to be, uh, aware of.
23:58I think awareness from kids in New York City is really important.
24:00I also think if they grow up, they have that awareness.
24:03Yeah.
24:03But it's probably changed what you, as a parent, you're probably worried about different things than your parents were worried about it either.
24:08Well, I feel a little safer, because at least, you know, I have a 12, almost 13-year-old.
24:11He started taking the train by himself.
24:13But he's tagged.
24:14You know, he has this device.
24:15He has a phone, and I can kind of track him.
24:17Yeah.
24:17There was no such, uh...
24:18No, you were not tagged.
24:19No, no.
24:21Um, yeah.
24:22But they seem to be enjoying it.
24:25The resources are amazing.
24:26Right.
24:27Do they appreciate that, though?
24:28Because I feel like my kids don't appreciate yet everything New York has to offer.
24:31I think they do.
24:32Cyrus, our eldest, like, always wants to go to museums.
24:36Okay, well, yeah.
24:37But, like, like, the Whitney.
24:39And we're like, okay, I mean, sure.
24:41We'll go again.
24:42I think we got a different kid.
24:44No, our little child is like, do we have to?
24:51Yeah.
24:52Yeah, I was like, we, you know, I think our kids are finally, like, you know, as they reached
24:56a point where we could take them to see, you know, Broadway shows.
24:58And Broadway shows for them, you know, when they saw, like...
25:00What have they liked?
25:01They loved the Lion King and the Harry Potter play, which was, I was very worried because
25:06the length was...
25:07Scary, too.
25:08Scary, too.
25:09I loved it.
25:10What are those things that go...
25:11What are they?
25:12I have no idea.
25:13And I'm not even close.
25:14Ah, okay.
25:15Well, husband.
25:16My husband.
25:17Husband!
25:18Yeah.
25:19My husband is English.
25:21And he has read the full Harry Potter series to both boys.
25:25And he will do the same for our girl.
25:27But he's, you know, he can do all of the voices.
25:30They have no idea the kind of privileged experience they're getting.
25:34I know.
25:35But, yeah.
25:36I'm worried because that's the thing with my kids is, like, you know,
25:38Hugh actually has an English accent, whereas I'm trying to fake one during the Harry Potter books.
25:43And at one point, they were like, you don't have to do the voices.
25:48They're like, you know what, we love the effort, but...
25:52Relax.
25:53Just take it down.
25:54Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:55Let us imagine British accents.
25:58Well, I'm sure Hugh could come over and do a couple chapters.
26:01That'd be great.
26:02Yeah, I'd be like, I have an exciting announcement.
26:04Your oldest would come on the Homeland set all the time.
26:07Did anybody come on the set of this spooky show?
26:10No, I mean, I kind of thought they would.
26:12I mean, Rowan was like a COVID baby, so he wasn't allowed on set.
26:15And now the world has opened up again, and I was looking forward to that.
26:18But I kind of forgot that, oh, our nanny is looking after the other boys.
26:23So, yeah.
26:24Yeah, right, yeah.
26:25But one day, she'll discover the makeup trailer.
26:27Yeah, of course. And how old is she now?
26:30She's two.
26:31Well, she's going to love this show.
26:32She's going to love it.
26:33Yeah.
26:35It's so nice to have you back.
26:36Aw, it's so nice to be here.
26:37Thank you so much for being here.
26:38Thank you so much for having me.
26:39You guys, Claire Danes, everybody.
26:40The Beast of News doing nothing.
26:41We'll be right back with Callum Turner.
27:01Our next guest is a talented actor you know from his work in The Boys in the Boat, Masters of the Air, and the Fantastic Beasts franchise.
27:08He stars in Eternity, which will be in theaters everywhere on Thanksgiving.
27:11Please welcome to the show, Callum Turner, everybody!
27:28Welcome! How are you?
27:30It's good to be here.
27:31It's thrilling to have you here, first time.
27:34And congrats on the movie.
27:36Thank you very much.
27:37It's about a love triangle.
27:38That's right, yeah.
27:39And I want to get this out of the way, because I often think your fiancée Dua Lipa and I went day drinking.
27:45It's a little awkward.
27:46Yeah.
27:48We did get matching tattoos.
27:50And so, in a way, I sort of feel like I...
27:52I mean, I will tell people I feel as though I'm in a love triangle with you guys.
27:55My question...
27:56Every day.
27:57Okay, you guys talk about it, too.
27:58Every day I wake up and I think, Seth Meyers, man.
28:00Seth Meyers.
28:01You know, we started dating as that happened.
28:03And she texted me the next day saying, I got white girl wasted with Seth Meyers last night.
28:08I was carried out.
28:09She did.
28:10She did.
28:11She did get carried out.
28:12I'm a huge fan of hers.
28:14I'm a huge fan of yours, as well.
28:16And I feel like maybe you had some early bartending days.
28:18You play a bartender in the movie.
28:19Yeah.
28:20Were you good at bartending?
28:22I didn't draw on any of those experiences from before because it was such a bad...
28:27My friends had a job in a pub.
28:29Yeah.
28:30I got jealous and I thought, I want a job in a pub.
28:31So I went down to the pub and the guy said, can you pour a pint?
28:35Yeah.
28:36I said, yeah, I can pour a pint.
28:37I was 17.
28:38I wasn't even allowed in the pub.
28:39Yeah.
28:40And he goes, all right, show me.
28:42So I poured the worst pint known to mankind.
28:45He looked at me.
28:46He went, you've never done that before, have you?
28:48I went, no.
28:50Go on, get out.
28:51I will say, while I appreciate your moxie, what did you think was going to happen?
28:57I'm a very positive person.
29:00And I hope.
29:01You were just mad.
29:02You were like, I was envisioning a perfect pint.
29:04Sheer belief.
29:05Sheer belief.
29:06Yeah, it had like the froth was like that big.
29:08And yeah, I'm embarrassed.
29:10I bet people in British pubs are pretty loose and easy about how the pint looks when it comes
29:15out, right?
29:16No, no, no, no.
29:17There's rules and regulations.
29:19Yeah.
29:20Have you not seen those videos of guys where they like, they trick a guy who's there,
29:23he puts the cash down, he looks away and he comes back and the pint's like that and
29:27the guy gets fuming.
29:28Really?
29:29Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:30That's blasphemy.
29:31No wiggle room on the pint?
29:32No wiggle room.
29:33It has to be perfect.
29:34All right.
29:35Especially as now a pint in London I think is like eight pounds.
29:37Yeah.
29:38It's a lot of money.
29:39That's a lot of money.
29:40Yeah, you don't want a shaggy pint.
29:41Also, dabbled.
29:43I mean, how late in your life did you actually hold out hope that you would be a professional
29:47footballer?
29:48I'm still going.
29:49Gotcha.
29:50Yeah.
29:51Great.
29:52We're here to tell you don't...
29:54Maybe one day.
29:56Yeah, I mean, why?
29:57Don't give up on your dreams.
29:58I am 35.
29:59Most of the guys have retired by now.
30:00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:01Most of the guys are retired.
30:02I mean, I feel like do football at first.
30:04Nail that.
30:05Then later in life do the bartender thing and then come back around to acting.
30:08Yeah.
30:09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:10I would actually like to own a pub and then I could drink my own pints.
30:13That's great.
30:14Yeah.
30:15That's a goal.
30:16And you can call it bad pints.
30:19Yeah.
30:21Shaggy pints.
30:22Shaggy pints.
30:23I like shaggy pints.
30:24I've never heard a pint be called shaggy before.
30:26What you're describing I feel like would look that way.
30:28Yeah.
30:29Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:30What's your football club?
30:31It's Chelsea.
30:32And are you passionate?
30:33I am.
30:34I'm very passionate.
30:35Yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:36Do you feel like it's healthy?
30:37I'm very passionate about American football.
30:38And I don't know if it's a sum positive.
30:40I think it's healthy when we win.
30:41Yeah, that is how I feel.
30:43When we lose, it's not so healthy.
30:45Are you following the team when you're in the States?
30:47All the time.
30:48And do you like the early start here?
30:50On a Saturday or a Sunday, yes.
30:52Yeah.
30:53Yeah, we watched the game in bed against Liverpool two, three weeks ago.
30:56Yeah.
30:57And then you have the rest of the day.
30:58It's so nice, yeah.
30:59And then your day is over because it's 5 p.m.
31:01Unless you lose, in which case your day is ruined too early.
31:03Right?
31:04Yeah.
31:05The weekend.
31:06Not just the day.
31:07Yeah, Saturday morning could be a bad time to lose.
31:09Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
31:10Are you superstitious?
31:11I am superstitious, yeah.
31:13I talked about this before.
31:14And it comes from playing football.
31:17Right.
31:18It comes from playing football, yeah.
31:19And do you ever...
31:20Do your superstitions ever, like, rope other people into them?
31:22Do you ever, like, punish your friends based on their behavior as well?
31:25Yeah.
31:26Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:27We watched the PSG-Chelsea game on my iPad having dinner.
31:30It was like...
31:31With Dua and my friend Mustafa, it was like the...
31:34We had to have dinner and watch the game at the same time.
31:39And that was the rule, you know?
31:40Yeah.
31:41The game was still going on.
31:42We finished dinner.
31:43And Chelsea were winning 3-0.
31:44And I didn't let them leave the table.
31:46Oh.
31:47Because it was...
31:48They needed the toilet.
31:49Yeah.
31:50They said, no, you've got to stay.
31:52Even the dog was at the door.
31:55I get...
31:56By the way, I get this with a one-goal lead.
31:58But you got a three-goal cushion and you wouldn't let people go to the bathroom?
32:01No.
32:02Yeah.
32:03You don't know what could...
32:04You don't know.
32:05You never know.
32:06None of us know.
32:07There's 30 minutes left.
32:08Like, we got to see this out together.
32:11And I know you feel the same, right?
32:13Yeah.
32:14What you do at home affects the game.
32:16I will...
32:17I've actually opted out of going to a game because I reached a conclusion that I was bad luck
32:23for the Red Sox.
32:24And so...
32:25Yeah.
32:26And, by the way, once I chose that, they started winning.
32:27They won, right?
32:28And so I'm right.
32:29They told me that backstage.
32:30Yeah, I'm a hero.
32:31Well, I do that with Chelsea, too.
32:33I went to four finals and we lost all four.
32:35Yeah.
32:36And so I don't go to any anymore.
32:37Yeah.
32:38I watch them at home.
32:39By the way, I'm very disappointed you gave it four tries.
32:43Feels like the guy that won't let people use the bathroom maybe should have known after three.
32:47Have you...
32:48I know.
32:49Have you...
32:50Maybe after two.
32:51If I'm that superstitious.
32:52Yeah, I know.
32:53Have you dabbled in any New York sports while you're here?
32:56Have you gone to see anything?
32:57Yeah.
32:58Knicks.
32:59I went the other night.
33:00Yep.
33:01How was the vibe?
33:02It's a pretty...
33:03I will say it's an incredible vibe.
33:04I took my friend and my two friends and my sister.
33:07And my friend, who's from New York, is a huge Knicks fan.
33:11And he had the Knicks hat and the jacket and the hoodie.
33:14And he basically told me for two hours before the game, because we were courtside,
33:19don't spill the drink.
33:20Yeah.
33:21Whatever you do when you're with me, don't spill the drink.
33:23I was like, I'm not going to spill the drink.
33:25Don't spill the drink.
33:26I won't spill the drink.
33:27Don't spill the drink.
33:28All right.
33:29Oh, great.
33:30And it was the greatest moment of my life.
33:33Because I was nervous with my drink.
33:35And he went like that.
33:36He went to get the drink.
33:37And then Spike Lee, who's obviously like a huge...
33:40Yeah.
33:41He's Mr. Knicks.
33:42He was looking over like...
33:43Yeah.
33:44Who's this guy?
33:45Yeah.
33:46I wish Spike Lee had said to you, you should have told him not to spill the drink.
33:49Right, right, right.
33:50He was telling me.
33:51Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:52I want to ask you about the movie.
33:54Stick around.
33:55We'll be right back with more from Callum.
33:58When eternity's on the line, one lifetime awaiting seems like nothing.
34:21Jesus, you are so perfect.
34:24I'm not perfect.
34:25Oh, that's what perfect people say.
34:27But I hate hearing about your kids and your grandkids and the kids they had, okay?
34:31I mean, I don't...
34:32I don't hate them.
34:33Okay.
34:34But...
34:36It kills me that I ain't get to have all that with you.
34:44I'm glad you had it.
34:48Glad you had a happy life.
34:50Welcome back, everybody.
34:51We're here with Callum Turner.
34:53That was a clip from Eternity.
34:56And...
34:57That was...
34:58That was not CGI.
35:00That's the...
35:01I wanted to ask.
35:02That was in Whistler.
35:03That was not CGI.
35:04That was not CGI.
35:05It's so nice in this day and age when you actually, like, see somebody and you're like,
35:08how was that?
35:09And you're like, oh, I wasn't there.
35:10I was in front of a green screen.
35:11You were actually in Whistler.
35:12I was in London.
35:13Yeah.
35:14We were up in Whistler, I can't remember the name of the mountain, for about four days.
35:18And actually, Lizzie and I both got really sick and she came in one day and said, do you
35:23know what you need?
35:24I said, what?
35:25She went, raw garlic.
35:26Okay.
35:27Yeah.
35:28No?
35:29I mean, I will say I've heard it.
35:30Yeah, that's a real...
35:31Have you tried it?
35:32Yes.
35:33I wouldn't recommend it.
35:34No.
35:35It made me feel worse.
35:36Yeah, I do think it made me feel a little bit worse, too.
35:38Yeah.
35:39Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:40Not only am I bunged up and I feel like crap, I'm fighting my life.
35:45And you smell like garlic, which is like, yeah.
35:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:50Did you take advantage of the fact that you were out in one of the most beautiful places
35:53in the world?
35:54I did.
35:55I stayed in West Vancouver, which was really beautiful.
35:58But in terms of the landscape, I didn't venture out too far.
36:02You didn't take advantage of the mountains?
36:04The first day I got there, they said, you know what you need to do?
36:08You need to go on a hike.
36:09Yeah.
36:10I said, okay, maybe I'll do that.
36:11And I was a bit tired, so I didn't.
36:12The next day I went into work and they said, did you see the three brown bears on the hike
36:18we recommended to you?
36:19Yeah.
36:20Guys, I want to survive the movie.
36:23Yeah.
36:24So I didn't.
36:25I didn't.
36:26The bears is the thing you say the day before you're supposed to go on the hike.
36:30Not the day after.
36:31Yeah, exactly.
36:32Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:33Take your bear spray.
36:34Is it horn or...?
36:35Bear spray or horn.
36:36Neither will work.
36:37Yeah.
36:38Yeah, the bears are always like, whatever, do your worst.
36:41I like that you went to Canada and people were just recommending bears and garlic.
36:47It doesn't seem like the best.
36:48No.
36:49No maple syrup.
36:50None of the fun stuff.
36:51Yeah, none of the fun stuff.
36:52Yeah, none of the fun stuff.
36:53It's a great cast.
36:54Miles Teller as well.
36:55John Early.
36:56And he's one of the funniest people we've ever had on the show.
37:00So, the first...
37:01I didn't know about John until we were making this movie and the first clip I saw was actually
37:05him on the show.
37:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:07Cracking him.
37:08And Divine Joy Randolph.
37:09Yeah.
37:10And it's really a lovely cast.
37:11And I would imagine hard to keep a straight face with the two of them.
37:14Yeah, totally.
37:15I mean, they steal the show and they just riff the whole time.
37:19And it's wonderful to watch them be so creative all the time.
37:24And we would do our scene and we'd cover our stuff and then we'd flip the camera and
37:28be like, okay, make the magic happen.
37:31But Divine, I just got told, is a trained opera singer.
37:35You didn't know that?
37:36I didn't know that at all.
37:37No, no, no.
37:38Oh, that's fantastic.
37:39See?
37:40You find things out too late.
37:41It feels like everybody wants you to know things.
37:43Exactly.
37:44At a time where it's not useful to you.
37:46There are no bears in New York, right?
37:47Yeah, there's no bears in New York.
37:48You're good here.
37:49Alright, so one of the things about the film, just to explain the clip a little bit,
37:52is you're in the afterlife.
37:53Yeah.
37:54You're someone...
37:55You're Elizabeth's ex-husband who...
37:58Yeah, he would say husband.
38:00He would say husband, right, because he died.
38:01He died.
38:02He died in the war.
38:03But so you're playing somebody from a different era.
38:05You're a modern guy, Callum, but people look at you and they're like,
38:08we think he looks like he's from the 30s or 40s.
38:11So my theory is that it's the hair.
38:13Okay, yeah.
38:14And normally I have slightly longer hair and they think, 1940.
38:17Yeah.
38:18These are just a number of times where they were like, yep, no, we want him to dress up like that.
38:22This is four different projects.
38:25That's the four you found.
38:27Yeah.
38:28There's more.
38:29So what was your first thing?
38:30Did you get to be modern in your first job?
38:34The first ever job I did was a music video for a band called The Shoes,
38:41and it was with Jake Gyllenhaal.
38:42Okay, gotcha.
38:43So that was modern, yeah.
38:44And he killed me.
38:45In the video, he killed you?
38:46Killed me in the video.
38:47Yeah, yeah.
38:48Like, if you ever see the video, he really kills me.
38:50Okay.
38:51It's like the first 30 seconds, he like beats the crap out.
38:53Must be a fun song.
38:56It's a romantic song.
38:59I was so happy that it wasn't that, like, it was like that your first video wasn't like a Chubby Checker song.
39:05And even that was like super dated.
39:06And Jake Gyllenhaal killed me.
39:09It's a fantastic film. I think it's a great film for the holiday season.
39:12Yeah.
39:13And it's so lovely to meet you for the first time, man.
39:15Me too, man.
39:16All the best to you.
39:17Thank you so much for having to have you in New York.
39:19Callum Turner, everyone.
39:20Eternity will be in theaters everywhere on Thanksgiving.
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