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00:00Welcome to Real Talk, where it gets hot, spicy, and to the drama.
00:05Sarah, we had so much fun last time.
00:08I mean, we talked about everything.
00:10Your origin story, your villain origin story.
00:12Are you single right now?
00:16You're not single.
00:18No.
00:19Okay, tell me a little bit about that.
00:20Sure.
00:21That was, like, definitely a curveball.
00:22I know, and I know I wasn't going to say anything until we were live.
00:26Okay.
00:26So, no, I'm not single.
00:29But this is the area that I do not share on the internet.
00:35This is the one thing that I don't post photos of, that I'm not conventional, like,
00:42oh, me and my boyfriend, like, traveling, going on a trip.
00:45Like, I prefer to keep that for me and not have people reaching out to him or doing that thing.
00:53Because I've actually made that mistake before with a previous boyfriend where I was like,
00:56oh, cute, like, photos of us together and doing things together.
01:00And then it kind of got weird, actually, where my current boyfriend would never do this.
01:07And, gosh, I was dating, like, a terrible guy, like, a musician, classic.
01:12And he was kind of, like, using my clout a little bit, and it got weird.
01:17And then, you know, you break up, and then it's, like, awkward.
01:20It's not like I'm at the point of where I would have to make an announcement about a divorce or something.
01:26But it was uncomfortable.
01:28Yeah.
01:29It was weird.
01:29So, I definitely, my dating life, I don't share the human online at all.
01:37Yeah.
01:37So, that's a thing.
01:38Yeah.
01:38I completely understand that.
01:39I mean, being an actress and a media personality, I can imagine that, like, kind of getting kind of blurred
01:45and not knowing where those boundaries are.
01:47You know, especially when you have this type of following.
01:50Yeah.
01:51And this type of influence, and you're working with these brands.
01:53But that was, like, such a curveball.
01:55I did not expect that.
01:56I know.
01:57I know.
01:58I know.
01:58It's so juicy.
01:59And the thing is, too, I just feel like it's something that no one needs to know, really.
02:06It's nice.
02:07It's not like I'm, like, hiding him.
02:09But it's, like, I don't want the whole world to see it because it's special to me and only me, kind of.
02:17Yeah.
02:18But, like, it's not like we're, like, hiding out in the house and we never leave or go in public or anything.
02:21Like, we have friends.
02:22You know, I just don't post him.
02:23Yeah.
02:24I completely understand.
02:25I feel that way sometimes about my emotional state.
02:28Like, I feel like it's so private that the humanness, I don't want to bring it.
02:33So, it's interesting to see that you apply that in your relationship.
02:36Like, you know, you have that kind of vulnerability with your person.
02:40And you don't think that that's something that should be shared with just anyone.
02:43Yeah.
02:44Just, like, I don't think that my inner being needs to be seen.
02:49Exactly.
02:49Experienced by just every person.
02:52It's, like, I'm so comfortable sharing everything.
02:55Like, I would rather do a live stream of me on a toilet, like, mid-situation than sharing my partner, even though I know that sounds so strange.
03:09Yeah, but why is that?
03:10Like, because me, I think...
03:11He's also not an actor.
03:12So, I don't want...
03:14You don't want to expose him to that world?
03:16It's just, he doesn't really care about that stuff.
03:21And, I don't know.
03:23I also just...
03:25Nowadays, at least for me and where I'm at, it's, like, my Instagram is my portfolio, kind of.
03:31And, yeah, I keep it real in me, my real life and everything.
03:35But I just don't need to post him, you know?
03:38Yeah, it's, like, more for, like...
03:39He doesn't care either.
03:40Like, we kind of...
03:41We're cool because we don't really, like...
03:43We're not on Instagram together, like, scrolling that much.
03:46We're very much in the moment.
03:47And, yeah, I just...
03:49I like to keep it like that.
03:50And I'm not saying this, that we're going to break up.
03:54But if we did, then it's, like, I don't want to have...
03:57Then it gets awkward when I get a new boyfriend.
03:59Yeah.
04:00Or something.
04:00It's just...
04:01Would you say, like, when you guys tie the knot, you'll be less secretive?
04:04Yeah, for sure.
04:06Because it'll be more secure, too.
04:07Or, like, move in together or something like that.
04:08Or something like that, yeah.
04:09But...
04:10It's just, yeah.
04:11How would you say you balance, like, everything?
04:14I mean, you're doing so much.
04:15I don't.
04:16You're such a creative.
04:17I don't.
04:18Like, okay.
04:19No balance.
04:20There is no balance, which is something that I'm personally working on in my life.
04:24Like, we all have things to work on.
04:25And me, it's knowing that I'm going to still be successful.
04:31And we're a busy actress, busy casting director, whatever my next thing will be.
04:36I'm allowed to, like, go on a walk or go on a little trip and not just be, like, working,
04:43working, working.
04:44Because I just feel like it's really hard for me to not think about work and not be like,
04:50oh, someone less talented than me is working harder.
04:53Yeah.
04:53So, I'm also less talented than other actresses that are working less hard than me.
05:00And I have a bigger career than they do.
05:02Yeah.
05:03So, I'm just kind of, like, I always have to be trying, but that's also not good for your sanity.
05:10Yeah.
05:10No, because you constantly have to keep going.
05:12Yeah.
05:13You constantly have to achieve.
05:14So, I think maybe you would say that something, like, that you have to balance.
05:19Yes.
05:19I have to be better.
05:20You have to balance balancing.
05:22Yes.
05:23I, because I'm just, like, work, work, work, work, work.
05:26Like, workaholic.
05:28Yeah.
05:28I would say I'm a workaholic, too, especially when we bring in those emotions of, like,
05:33feeling at home on set.
05:35Yeah, and I, for me, I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I'm a vegan.
05:41And it's not that I think I'm better than anyone.
05:43Like, trust me, I don't.
05:44It's just this, I, I'm super susceptible to depression.
05:48So, if I drink alcohol, the next day, game over.
05:51I get so disgustingly hungover.
05:54I can't even casually drink, really.
05:56Wow.
05:56It sucks.
05:57It's actually annoying.
05:58Like, it's...
05:58Are you, like, lightweight, like, one or two drinks or, like...
06:00Oh, girl, at this point, two sips.
06:02I'm, like...
06:03Two sips?
06:03Like, and it's a fun time.
06:06Like, I'm the life of the party.
06:07Like, I'm great.
06:09But then the next day, I'm really sad.
06:12And so, I also, like, weed, too.
06:15I hate it.
06:15I wish I could do it.
06:17It doesn't work for me.
06:18So, I have nothing to, like, calm me down.
06:21I started taking my vision.
06:21Take you away to distract you.
06:23Yeah.
06:23Yeah, so I just...
06:25So, how do you get away?
06:26And how do you get distracted?
06:28Don't.
06:29Like, that, again, this is, like, the area that I'm working on the most as an individual.
06:33Is being able to put my phone down, get out of the slack, and just talk to my friend, or go for a walk, or do something that's not the phone.
06:47Or, like, submitting to a casting, or text, or responding to a manager, or, like, the whole thing.
06:54It's just...
06:55You're just on the go.
06:56She's always on the go.
06:57Always.
06:57And I have two serious jobs, like, where I do casting and acting.
07:01So, a lot of times, I do them at the same time.
07:04So, I really, like, I'm doing a lot at once, and I love it.
07:07Like, I love it so much.
07:09But I really...
07:11I tell this to my boyfriend, too, where I'm, like, I'm...
07:15I need to figure out how to, like...
07:18I don't want to be, like, kind of like the boomer generation, where they, like, bring their work home.
07:23Yeah.
07:24And, you know, always talking about the job, or whatever.
07:27And I want to be, like, okay, like, let's, like, have a fun time now.
07:31And, like, vibe out.
07:32And, like, who cares what's going on in the email chain?
07:34What do you think could help you with that?
07:36I don't know.
07:37Any suggestions?
07:38Please drop a comment.
07:39Like...
07:39Yes.
07:40Send over some suggestions.
07:41I can't do the weed.
07:42I can't do the alcohol.
07:43I eat, like, really healthy, but that's fine.
07:46I don't know.
07:46I do work out, and I do yoga, but that's not really going to do it.
07:50I don't know.
07:51I take magnesium.
07:53That has helped me a lot.
07:55Magnesium's great.
07:56It actually, a thousand percent is.
07:58If you have sleep issues, take magnesium.
08:00I promise you it'll help.
08:02I don't know.
08:03Because if you're on your phone, I...
08:06I'm just so addicted to my phone.
08:08Yeah.
08:09I'm so addicted to it.
08:10We all are.
08:10I'm even, like, where is it right now?
08:12We're, like...
08:12It's, like, literally, if it's not close to me, I kind of feel it.
08:15Yeah.
08:16Oh, yeah.
08:16I'm, like, where is my phone right now?
08:18I don't...
08:18It's bad.
08:19Yeah.
08:19It's so bad.
08:20I'm so addicted to it.
08:21So, also, then I get really bad ADD, where I'm, like, on the phone, and then I'm, like,
08:25wait, what am I supposed to be doing?
08:26And I'm, like, oh, shit.
08:27I never sent that email.
08:28And then I'm, like, oh, my God.
08:29I have to do this.
08:30And then you just do it all.
08:31And then I'm, like, it's midnight.
08:35So, there's been a lot of cases where I've worked from the moment.
08:37I have my eyes till they shut.
08:39Oh, my God.
08:39I know.
08:40And that's...
08:40I know.
08:41It's bad.
08:41It's so bad.
08:42Because you've got to memorize your lines.
08:45You've got to, like, do that.
08:46Like, the acting person.
08:48And they're moving.
08:48You know how it is.
08:49Yeah.
08:49So, how do you balance that with having a relationship?
08:53Because, I mean...
08:54He's so understanding.
08:57Like, so understanding.
08:57You said he's not in the field.
08:59He's just not an actor.
09:00Okay.
09:00But he so gets it.
09:03And is also building his own career.
09:05And he's really successful.
09:07And he's a director.
09:08So, he also...
09:10So, he gets your world.
09:12But he also doesn't get the verticals sometimes.
09:15Because he's, like, wait.
09:17Okay.
09:17You have to memorize how much for tomorrow?
09:20Like, you're doing 17 scenes?
09:22Like, yeah.
09:23It's my big day.
09:24Yeah, because it's more fast-paced.
09:25Yeah.
09:25And more than traditional.
09:26Yeah.
09:27So, um...
09:29But it's...
09:30We have a really good relationship where...
09:35Um...
09:36It's not that work comes first.
09:39But it does.
09:40And, like, I accept that with him, too.
09:42Even if we're having dinner or something.
09:44And he's getting a call from his producer.
09:46Like, I know...
09:47Like, that's a huge job.
09:48You understand.
09:48Like, I'm not going to be like, what?
09:50So, I guess that's where the balance happens.
09:52By prioritizing and knowing that work for both of you guys fulfills you.
09:56So, I'm really happy for you.
09:58I mean, that was definitely a curveball.
09:59I didn't know my girl was taken.
10:01No one knows.
10:02Um...
10:03And it's actually, like...
10:03Nobody knows.
10:04It's very, very, like, exciting.
10:06Because even, like, a little secret that you have between you two.
10:10Before finding him, was it difficult finding or just dating in the industry?
10:15Would you say?
10:15Oh, my God.
10:16It's terrible.
10:18It's...
10:19Like, I know dating in our generation is just awful anywhere.
10:22But living in Los Angeles, good night.
10:26It's disturbing.
10:28I...
10:28We met on a dating app.
10:31Even though we work in the same entertainment industry.
10:34But, one, I don't ever meet anyone on set that I'm going to date.
10:39Because it's also weird if you're dating someone that you work with that close.
10:41Like, no, absolutely not.
10:43And plus, I'm just not into it.
10:44And there's just nowhere to, like, meet people.
10:47Yeah, like, where do you go?
10:48I don't know.
10:49Everything is online.
10:51You have to date on the apps.
10:53Like, it's just, like, kind of how you do it nowadays, I feel like.
10:56I have no idea.
10:58When I was single...
10:59Okay, well, actually, this is actually a funny story.
11:03So, I was on the dating app because I was trying to get more self-confidence in my dating.
11:09Because I was the type...
11:10Oh, my gosh.
11:11Everyone's going to hate this.
11:13It's disgusting.
11:14Don't ever do it.
11:16All the girlies in here watching, don't ever do this.
11:18So, I'd be...
11:19I was the one that would be, like, yeah, like, do you want to split it?
11:23No.
11:25I can't forgive you.
11:27I know.
11:28I know.
11:30Or I'd be, like...
11:31And you...
11:31I'd be, like, oh, yeah, like, wherever you want.
11:33Like, sure.
11:35Like, easygoing.
11:36Like, cool, girl.
11:37Like, I'll do whatever.
11:39And then that bit me in the ass.
11:41And then I had to learn a lesson.
11:43You have to learn.
11:44And then I went on the dating apps to try on a character.
11:48What I would do is I'd be, like, okay, you're going to go on this date and you're not going
11:51to reach for your bag.
11:52You're not going to reach for your wallet.
11:53You're just going to sit there and be cute and be, like, yeah, like, you can pay my dinner.
11:55And that's fine.
11:56And I'm not a diva for that.
11:58But that's what I expect.
12:00Yes.
12:00So I tried on these, a little bit of different personality traits of being more confident,
12:06being more, yeah, like, I'm the type of girl that, like, you're going to pay for me.
12:10And that's fine.
12:11And I don't...
12:11That's what it is.
12:12And these are the things I need in a man, even though I didn't really need that.
12:18So I was dating.
12:19I would find guys that it wouldn't work with.
12:21Then I met my boyfriend.
12:23Oh, my gosh.
12:24He was like, yeah, of course.
12:25This is what you deserve.
12:27What do you need?
12:27Like, you're telling me what I have to do to date you, so I'm going to do that.
12:33And once I dated him, once I met him, I was like, wow, all these other guys, like, didn't
12:38actually give a shit.
12:39Yeah.
12:40You'll find someone that will not...
12:42It just makes it easy for you and will make it easy for you to be the person you need to
12:47be and the woman you want to be.
12:49Without it being, like, awkward or feeling, like, weird or, like, oh, my gosh, am I going
12:53to...
12:54Is this okay that I'm acting this way?
12:56Where there will be someone that is just like, yeah, that's how it is.
13:00Yeah.
13:00That's 100% how it is.
13:01So that I was...
13:03Not like I was pretending to be someone else, but I was just being a little more confident
13:09version of myself.
13:10And I wrote down in a journal things that I wanted in a boyfriend or the way I wanted
13:16to be treated.
13:17And then I was like, okay, I don't...
13:20As Sarah, I don't really feel that confident to act that way.
13:23But I was like, who cares?
13:24I don't even know this guy.
13:25Like, whatever.
13:26You just became what you wanted.
13:27Yeah.
13:28And then now it's the thing.
13:29And I haven't paid for dinner.
13:33Listen, ladies.
13:34Why don't we switch places and I can ask you some dating questions?
13:38Okay, let's talk about building relationships, love, all that kind of stuff.
13:52So it's freaking hard to date in this day and age, especially in the entertainment industry.
13:57So you also work in this game.
14:00So what's it like for you?
14:01I mean, like, we live in LA.
14:03Are you dating?
14:04I mean, I feel like nowadays it's just all about boundaries.
14:10And I feel like there's no clear way to establish them.
14:14Because you have the online world.
14:16You have the entertainment world.
14:17You have your career self.
14:19So it's just really been figuring that out and figuring out how to navigate through all
14:24the spaces that I'm in currently.
14:27You know, you're an actress.
14:28You're a media personality.
14:30Balancing that out.
14:31You know, you said you had an ex that would use your clout.
14:36Oh, yeah.
14:37So you can only imagine.
14:38Oh, for sure.
14:39It's like, I don't know.
14:43I feel like thinking back to our parents' generation, they have like one job.
14:48It was a little easier for them.
14:50They got married.
14:51They did the thing.
14:52You meet your husband and wife, whatever.
14:54You have the kids.
14:55Even if it's boring, it's still a path that's simpler.
15:00Yeah.
15:00We have so much shit going on.
15:02It's like, I don't even know where you meet people.
15:05Like, I met my boyfriend on an app.
15:07Like, what are your thoughts on the apps?
15:09Listen, I, um, the apps are something I stay away from just because there's so many people
15:17that I professionally work with that actually pop up.
15:21Stop it.
15:22Yes.
15:22Have you been on there scrolling and you saw someone that you're like, huh, manage that
15:25one.
15:25Yeah.
15:25You know the reality behind that.
15:27Or, you know, you just don't want to open those doors and you want to keep things so
15:31professional.
15:31And then it's like you meet an actor or director and then the next day you're scrolling down
15:36hinge on your personal life and they pop up and you're like, awkward.
15:41Do you feel like it being on a dating app, it like dilutes your brand a little bit?
15:46Like you as a human, like you feel like it's kind of like, um, like a loser.
15:49I'm on a dating app.
15:50It's just really difficult to, you know, just like you have a role.
15:54I feel like I have a role that I have to play for my job and it's a little difficult to separate
15:58the two because, you know, there's a fun side to me.
16:01Right.
16:01But there's also the person that's managing a brand.
16:06Right.
16:06Which is, could be a lot problematic.
16:09That's why everything you, you said, I was just so admired by because it's like, you're
16:13so comfortable in just showing those things and not have to polish, polish.
16:18So I'm wondering like, how is that for you in like the dating life?
16:23Like you, like you said, you kind of just had fun with it.
16:25Yeah.
16:26You just went out and just dated and like, if you played a role and, and, and that's how
16:31I feel like that's how things happen.
16:34Um, I also think like back in the day, um, you know, our mother and our father generation,
16:40everything was a little more traditional, more purposeful.
16:43And I think now, since like, there's so much out there, everything is so, I'd say disposable
16:51nowadays.
16:53So.
16:54I feel like, okay.
16:56So I found my boyfriend and he's the type that literally lets me be feral and no questions
17:04at, no questions asked.
17:05He's just like, you do you, you're like your own thing.
17:09And he kind of just like supports me and it's so hard to find that he's from the South.
17:14Like he, that's why we need to go to the South.
17:16I think the boys in the South are a little nicer.
17:20I don't know any of the girl he's watching.
17:21Can you let me know?
17:22Yes.
17:22In the comments or do we're both from the East coast.
17:24So we know the East coast and now we know outlay.
17:27So maybe we just need to go to like the South, like we're in the South.
17:31I don't know.
17:32I don't.
17:33Oh wait, where is he from?
17:35Or.
17:35I mean, if you want to tell him.
17:36No, he doesn't, um, okay.
17:39So my question for you though, is even though you're obviously a hustler, you slay the game,
17:47you do so much and you're so like inspirational.
17:51Do you want love?
17:52Like, are you, would you be, if it came, if there was a magic thing, you don't have to
17:56do the scrolling.
17:57You don't have to do that whole thing.
17:59If it were to happen, would you be open to it?
18:01Or are you kind of in a place that's like closed off to where your energy is closed
18:06off.
18:06So there won't be an opportunity.
18:08I think I'm always open, obviously for love.
18:10I'm a woman.
18:11I think that's something that comes natural.
18:13Yeah.
18:14Um, especially come on, like all these, all our shows, real short shows is the fantasy
18:19and the wanting to get rescued and the wanting to, you know, have that person that lets you
18:24go feral.
18:25Yeah.
18:25But I think also part of being, like you said, is that self-love of not wanting to share it
18:32with the, not the right person.
18:34Um, Oh my God.
18:35Cause it's terrible.
18:36Yeah.
18:37It really chips you down.
18:39When I broke up, I've had a few boyfriends and the one before this guy, I thought I was
18:46broken.
18:46Like I was like, Oh, I'll never be able to trust someone again.
18:50Like this is, this sucks for me now.
18:52Cause you're terrible.
18:55Yeah.
18:56But I think, I think you still can get past it.
19:01I think it's still, you don't live in that forever.
19:05Yeah, of course you don't live in that forever.
19:06And I think it's just about finding the person that flips you to become the better version
19:11of you.
19:12And I guess I'm still looking for that.
19:15Oh.
19:16Where?
19:17Okay.
19:17So obviously apps are out for you.
19:19Apps.
19:19I feel like the traditional way is the way.
19:22But like where?
19:23I know.
19:24That's what I'm saying.
19:24Like where?
19:25What do we do?
19:25We just go out to like random coffee shops.
19:28But it doesn't, in LA, like the culture here is people go out and pause.
19:31So I guess I'll just be single forever.
19:33I mean, it's, it's like you don't meet people anymore.
19:36You don't, you don't meet people.
19:37So I'm thinking like, you know, back in the day, people met at work.
19:40Right.
19:41Or it's like, oh, I have someone that might be nice for you.
19:44I even was rewatching Sex and the City and I'm like, oh my gosh, I like, that's such
19:48a fun era.
19:49And in LA specifically, the culture is so strange.
19:54People go out in pods or alone and they don't talk to anyone else.
19:58Like New York is not like this.
19:59Like you can just talk to anybody and it's chill.
20:02In LA, everyone's like.
20:04It's more like.
20:05No one's.
20:05It's definitely more open out there.
20:09But I mean, you found your, your person literally randomly dating up.
20:13And most of the times people meet randomly.
20:15So I feel like it's just not the time yet.
20:19Yeah.
20:20When there is the time, you know, there's no, no rush.
20:22I feel like when the time comes, then it'll happen for now.
20:26I'm looking for Mr.
20:27Medium Ugly.
20:29If you're there.
20:30Yeah.
20:30Come through.
20:32But you know, you, you seem so calm in what you have.
20:35And I think that that's what I want to.
20:36I want to feel calm and I don't want to feel a need to show.
20:41I feel like you, like, you know, you feel so comfortable in what you guys have that there's
20:47no need to explain.
20:48And that's what I'm looking for.
20:50Yeah.
20:50And it's out there.
20:51It's like, I feel like when you're, it's so cliche, but when you are least expecting
20:58it, it works out.
20:59Like I, when I first went on a date with him, I was like, uh, like whatever.
21:04And then I'm like, actually, I love him.
21:06Yeah.
21:06Cause of how he treats you.
21:07Yeah, exactly.
21:08So they can make up for it.
21:10Um, what about DMs?
21:12What are your thoughts on like people sliding in through the DMs?
21:15Don't even read them.
21:16Oh, I get it.
21:19Don't even try.
21:19How many unread messages do you have?
21:22I just feel like it's cheap.
21:23I mean, like there's other ways to get someone's attention.
21:26Um, I think sometimes a DM could be sweet, but I feel like a DM should come after more
21:32interact, like on, like you're interacting with my socials and then, oh, you know, we
21:36start casually talking.
21:38But if you're just like DMing, like it, what are you going to say?
21:42It already has a little bit of a negative connotation around it too, where you're just
21:45like sliding into the DMs.
21:47Like you just want this ass.
21:48Oh, what are you going to say?
21:49Like, what are you going to say when you slide in the DM?
21:51What is like a good DM?
21:54Think about it.
21:56Here's $500.
21:58I guess.
22:00You know, how about those people who, um, here's $500.
22:04That's the perfect DM.
22:06Do you know, oh my gosh, this is so off topic, but I was scrolling and, um, there are these
22:12girls that have these things called pay pigs where they literally just will, they have
22:20these guys that they're like, Hey, you idiot.
22:23I want a thousand dollars.
22:24And these men like that and they get off to it.
22:27So then they Venmo you.
22:28Yeah.
22:29So they're called pay pigs.
22:30There's, I'm like, Oh, I, I have, I have people that I know that are get paid for the
22:36girlfriend experience.
22:37So they'll call their, stop it.
22:38They'll call someone and they'll just say, how much do they get?
22:41Uh, I'll get you the deal.
22:42Just curious.
22:43I mean, that's so interesting.
22:45I mean, nowadays the way, the way that we're dating and the way that we're setting up intimate
22:50relationships is so different.
22:52I think it's up to everyone to kind of create what that means for them.
22:55Honestly, agreed.
22:57Whatever makes you happy and fixes it.
22:59Like you see people like marrying their lampshade and they're like, I love it.
23:04And you're like, you do you boo.
23:06I mean, you can't define love nowadays.
23:08So I mean, you just have to put yourself out there.
23:11I know dating apps are definitely not for me.
23:13I'm definitely a traditional, more conservative type of woman.
23:17Um, DMs.
23:18I feel like there's not really like a special DM that you can like impress me with.
23:22I agree.
23:23I'll welcome them.
23:24I'll welcome them.
23:25If you read it.
23:26Especially if they have $500 in the DM.
23:29Yeah.
23:29That one I'll probably read like right away.
23:32Okay.
23:33But so just quick, you want to dating apps fair.
23:38You want to meet someone the traditional way, but what would that be for you?
23:41Like at the bar, at a dinner, on the street, on a plane, airport.
23:47See, girl, I think I live in a fantasy world.
23:49I think that I'm just going to step out of my house and there's going to be-
23:53Delivery man.
23:54Charming.
23:55And he's going to be great.
23:56And then we're going to go to this little small town getaway and we're going to fall in love.
24:00And I'm going to bake bread with his mom and, you know, like, yeah.
24:05And she's a baker.
24:05And she's a baker.
24:07Yeah.
24:08And like, you know, he's like his, you know, he takes me to his bachelor apartment.
24:13And you get dual citizenship somewhere.
24:15Yeah.
24:15And I just, for some reason now, I'm like the queen of Geneva.
24:18Yeah.
24:19I live in this world of fantasy that doesn't exist in 2025.
24:24It only exists on a hinge or a bumble, I guess.
24:29But I guess, you know, just walking outside and meeting someone the natural, organic way.
24:34Yeah.
24:35All right.
24:36So everyone stalk her.
24:37I'm just kidding.
24:38I'm just kidding.
24:39I'm kidding.
24:40Okay.
24:40Last question.
24:42Do you believe in love at first sight?
24:44Of course.
24:45I don't.
24:46I don't.
24:47How don't you believe in love at first sight?
24:50Because I feel like, for me, love is what you're building something.
24:57And it's how, for a long period of time, the human is making that work for you.
25:04But haven't you felt something initially with someone that you've never felt with anyone else?
25:07Yeah, and it never works.
25:09They're assholes.
25:10They're terrible.
25:11So the guys that I'm like, damn, it's like they're the worst.
25:16But the guys that I'm like, whatever, they're the ones that in my experience have been.
25:21So would you say that you love someone from the moment that you meet them or that you learn to love someone?
25:27I don't know if it's learn to love someone because then it feels like I have to, it's not natural.
25:33It's more like, at least for me, it's experiences with the human and how they really can build you up and how you work together.
25:45But I've never, I don't think I believe in love at first sight.
25:47You've never met someone that you're just like, I know love at first sight is real because there are people that from the moment that I've stood next to them,
25:55I felt something that I never felt with anyone else.
25:58And that I cannot explain.
25:59Uh, maybe friendships.
26:01I get that from mostly women, actually.
26:04Sorry to the guys, but.
26:05So maybe love at first sight with women?
26:07With women and friendships, yeah.
26:09I'm like, or you've, you've actually, I've had it with guys too, but not in a romantic sense.
26:14Yeah, making you think about it.
26:15No, you are for sure.
26:17But I feel like it's a little bit more of like a friend, like where our energies mix.
26:22Because some people I, you'll meet and I'll be like, oh no, I know they're going to hate me.
26:26But wouldn't you say that then we can be love at first sight and then we build towards not loving?
26:34Yeah.
26:35Yeah.
26:35Like for sure you can be like, oh, I like them.
26:37And then you're like, oh my God, the way that they function is not okay.
26:41Yeah.
26:42But I think I'm, the question, do you believe in love at first sight?
26:45I'm viewing it a little bit more in the classic way of like, oh, if a couple meets and they fall in love, like in a movie.
26:53I don't really believe that.
26:56Well, is the love like the feeling or love, like the way that the dynamic will work?
27:03Because I feel like there's, there's two different things, right?
27:05Yeah.
27:05I think it's like, what is love to you?
27:08Right.
27:08So I guess it's like, let's define that, I guess.
27:10Because we're like talking about what love at first sight is.
27:12And we feel differently about love.
27:15We do.
27:15We definitely do.
27:16What's love for you?
27:16Okay.
27:17What's love for you?
27:18Love for me.
27:23What about you?
27:24Oh my God.
27:25I'm going to be the host right now.
27:28I'll let you think about it while I think, I mean, I'll let you answer while I think about it.
27:31That's a deep one.
27:33What is love?
27:35I feel like love for me is, well, there's a couple different like things of love.
27:42Like there's like friendship loves, family loves, and then your relationship, but an overall
27:47encompassing feeling is being able to just be yourself and not judged and giving yourself
27:57to someone without needing anything in return.
28:01Like I, right.
28:04I think.
28:05Yeah.
28:05No, it's selfless.
28:06Yeah, like there's something to be said when you're not expecting anything in return and
28:13just not feeling alone and making life better.
28:20Yeah.
28:21No, absolutely.
28:22I think love will be different for everyone.
28:25But I think that's something that me, you can agree on is that it's to be seen.
28:30It's to be understood.
28:32Yeah.
28:33You know, because I also think that.
28:35I also think like love is to be seen and understood.
28:38And I think that a lot of people have the capacity to love you.
28:43That's beautiful.
28:45The little poet.
28:46The poetry.
28:47The slam poetry hitting hard today.
28:50Okay.
28:50Well, let me give you your chair back.
28:52Yes.
28:53I have so many more questions to ask you.
28:55I mean, I can see why being on this side is a little uncomfortable.
28:59I like asking the questions more.
29:01You still kind of do it.
29:05Well, I'm happy to be back in this chair.
29:13So, you know that DMs for me are somewhat of like, I'd say like low effort.
29:19Is there anything for you that is like non-negotiable or just a deal breaker?
29:24Yeah.
29:24Like what?
29:25A thousand percent.
29:28I cannot stand it when men aren't really listening to me.
29:35And not in the sense of like, do what you're told.
29:38Like if I'm sharing something and then you ask me a question about what I just said, good night.
29:44Like, hi, I'm talking.
29:46And you're going to listen or we're not going to date.
29:49So, also with, I feel like as a straight female dating man, it's not that you have to train men, but you kind of do a little bit to your diameter.
30:04I like to say you teach people how to treat you.
30:07Yes, I agree with that.
30:08That's a beautiful thing.
30:09So, there's been so many instances of things that my boyfriend has done that annoyed me that I have just been like, oh, hey, so like, yeah, that doesn't work for me.
30:22But, yeah, we can like learn from that.
30:24If they keep doing it, then that's a problem.
30:26But if somebody makes a mistake in the relationship, as long as it's not anything crazy, if they can just like fix it, I think that that works.
30:35But, yeah, biggest issue is that really annoys me.
30:39Right.
30:39So, you don't like to not be listened to or like not be present during your time.
30:44Would you say that then you need a lot of time, spend a lot of time together?
30:47No.
30:48It's just if we're together and if we're having dinner or something, I'm not okay if he's like scrolling or something.
30:55Yeah, you want presents?
30:56Yeah.
30:57Would you say like, what was your love language?
30:58Would you say it's quality time then?
31:01My personal love language?
31:03Yeah, what's your love language?
31:04What are they again?
31:05I think it's quality time, gifting, acts of service, physical touch, and words of affirmation.
31:16Quality time and words of affirmation.
31:19Yeah.
31:19I don't really care about the gift stuff.
31:22Physical, I don't really care that much.
31:26Like it's not, I'm not like freaking out about it.
31:28What's the other one?
31:29Words of affirmation, quality time.
31:31And acts of service.
31:33That's nice.
31:33Yeah, that's nice.
31:35Yeah.
31:35That's what I think that is.
31:36Nice.
31:38I'm also that way.
31:39So that's why I ask because, you know, when someone's not present for me, I don't feel like we're spending time.
31:46Well, it's because it's like, what's the point?
31:47Like, I don't have time.
31:49Okay, if you're like busy and not.
31:50If you're doing something else, then I can go do something else too.
31:53So I completely understand that.
31:55And I guess like, what are the qualities that you look in a partner?
31:58I know that you kind of like dabbled a little bit and you kind of like explored your world.
32:03So I'm pretty sure you have some good insights on what to look for.
32:06When I was trying out dating, I didn't really know what I was looking for specifically.
32:14But what I knew was how I wanted to be treated and how I wanted to feel.
32:18We all know that feeling of talking to someone when you're so unsure and you're like, should I text them back?
32:23Like, yeah, do they like me?
32:25Am I being annoying?
32:26Like, what should I wear?
32:27Like, should I lie about where I am?
32:28Like, should I make myself look cooler?
32:30And that was something that I was always trying to like prove myself and make myself look cooler in all facets.
32:36So now it would be just being able to just like be your full self and be accepted and it's enough.
32:45I definitely need someone who is, I think this would go for everybody to just understanding of your emotional balance.
32:55Like, if I'm having a bad day, it's not personal.
32:57Something that I struggled with before my current boyfriend was I'm on set every day.
33:03I have one day off.
33:04I might not want to go out.
33:05I might want to sit in my bed and it's not personal.
33:09I just, I need you to understand that.
33:13So what would you say is like one of the most romantic things someone has ever done to you?
33:18I wish you would have asked me this question because I'm such a lover girl.
33:21But what was the most romantic thing?
33:26That I've ever, anyone's ever done for me?
33:27Yes.
33:28Or that you've ever experienced.
33:30Okay, so this question can be kind of difficult because of the genre that we all work in,
33:35which is these beautiful soap operas where the guys always do crazy things for women.
33:40And that's not always reality, okay?
33:43Men don't have billions of dollars unless they do.
33:45And then they just drop the credit card and give your mom $50,000 for her medical bill.
33:50Right.
33:51Maybe real short is the reason why I'm still looking for this.
33:55Honestly, I was actually going to ask you that.
33:56Is it because of real short?
33:57Because of our, yeah.
34:00I'd say the most romantic thing for me that really stuck out was after a really hard shoot,
34:07that was probably the hardest one I've ever done.
34:10And then my partner called me and I had a really bad ear infection.
34:17Ear infection?
34:18Yeah, it was really weird.
34:19Actually, it wasn't an ear infection.
34:20I had a clogged ear with earwax so I couldn't hear out of one ear.
34:23So he was like, okay, I'm taking you to the doctor to get your ear drained and then we're
34:29going to Joshua Tree.
34:30And I booked it.
34:32You're not, you don't do anything.
34:33Just pack a bathing suit and your almond milk, whatever you want.
34:37We're going to go.
34:37So someone taking the initiative for me and just making the plan to do a thing to help
34:43my ear hole and then to go on a trip to like get away.
34:47Because I would never do that.
34:48I'm the type that won't go on a trip unless it's work related.
34:51So that was really special to me.
34:55Yeah.
34:56No, that sounds so sweet.
34:57And it's like you, that person took care of you.
34:59It's like, and made sure that you relax.
35:03I think that's such a caring way and so romantic too.
35:06Cause it's like, I'm going to come take care.
35:08It was, it was, it was hot because it was like, uh, don't move.
35:13I'm on my way.
35:14This is what we're doing.
35:15It just felt good to be taken care of.
35:18So, and it's not even about like money and stuff.
35:21It's not like, oh, how many things you can buy me.
35:23But that just felt really special.
35:27Yeah.
35:27Um, I had so much fun.
35:29Um, talking to you about dating.
35:31I mean, I definitely needed that girl.
35:33It was like a girl to girl talk.
35:35And I want to end this segment with just us talking a little bit about what's the most
35:41important thing that you've learned in your dating career.
35:44I know you, I know the things that you've learned in your childhood and you brought to
35:49your villain stories.
35:51What have you learned?
35:52Like, what's the most impactful thing you've learned and that you want to share with the
35:55real short fans?
35:56The most impactful thing I've learned while dating is you don't have to please them.
36:08I feel like women, I'm kind of talking to the girlies right now.
36:11I feel like we put so much effort, like, are they going to like me?
36:14And it's like, you need to like them too.
36:17And it's hard to get to that place of just not giving a shit kind of and being like,
36:23yeah, if you don't like me, it's fine.
36:25You know, we want to be liked.
36:26We want to be like, well, we're human.
36:28Right.
36:28Um, but just trusting that someone will love you for everything, even though you're so
36:36hard on yourself, you don't, they're not going to be that way.
36:40If anything, they will make your life easier and let you feel like you don't have to be
36:45a size zero.
36:45Like you can be whatever size and it's fine.
36:48Just little things like that.
36:50So, um, I'd say the biggest lesson I've learned is finding someone that just allows you to
36:56have more self-acceptance and not having to just, just knowing that you actually have
37:03more power.
37:04Yeah.
37:04These guys like don't matter.
37:06Yeah, no, I think, um, that's really important to date for yourself and for your satisfaction
37:12and your own pleasure as well.
37:15And just to piggyback off, piggyback off of what I said earlier.
37:18If you're single and dating and struggling with it, try a little character on not saying
37:24go full crazy and like be someone else, but just amplify something that you really have
37:30had a lot of trouble with.
37:31Like for me, I really wanted a guy to buy me dinner without me feeling guilty about it.
37:35So I just pretended that that was my standard.
37:37I was one of those girls that was like, yeah, you're buying it.
37:40Yeah.
37:40You, and then it worked.
37:41So just try something new.
37:43And I swear.
37:44Yeah.
37:45I mean, you just have to put yourself there and know what you want so that you can be
37:49able to receive it.
37:51I mean, talking about dinner, I think I'm a little hungry right now and I know you love
37:57making a good smoothie.
37:59Yes.
38:00I definitely wanted to invite you to the podcast and make a smoothie with me.
38:04I think after all this dating talk, we're a little, we need a little refreshment.
38:08I think so too.
38:12So I heard you were hungry.
38:13Let's replenish that taste.
38:20What's the most villainous thing someone has ever done on a date with you?
38:23The worst thing in the world.
38:25I was on a date, a date with somebody and we were at the mall.
38:29We were in Zara and he asked me to pay for his clothing.
38:33And now, hi, thank you.
38:36I'd like to return this.
38:37Good night.
38:37Do you think villains make better lovers than heroes?
38:41I think villains make the best lovers.
38:45If your character were on a dating app, what would their bio say?
38:50Prickly on the outside, saucy on the inside, I think.
38:55What's your biggest dating deal breaker?
38:58Somebody who doesn't let me speak my mind and makes me feel small.
39:04Most romantic thing anyone has ever done for you?
39:08Probably took me on a surprise vacation when I was struggling and needed it really badly.
39:14And I didn't know that I needed it.
39:16So they knew that I needed it type of thing.
39:18If you were to go on a date with a fictional villain, who would it be and why?
39:22Daxter, come on, cut me open more!
39:25Cut me!
39:26What's the worst pick-up line you've ever heard?
39:29I don't get guys that give me pick-up lines.
39:32Like, I guess it would just be some, like, nasty, disturbing human on the street who's, like, maybe a drug addict, like, screaming at me.
39:41If your date ghosted you, would you plan revenge?
39:44Be honest.
39:45What do you think?
39:50Have you ever been on a date that felt like a dramatic movie scene?
39:54Yes!
39:55I went on a date with a guy that I didn't realize was, oh god, this is going crazy, was coming off of, um, ketamine?
40:06And he went into cardiac arrest in the restaurant.
40:11What's the weirdest or funniest reason you've turned someone down?
40:15The funniest reason I've turned someone down was because I had explosive diarrhea.
40:22Tried to get another date happening, and then he just goes to me after, so.
40:26Time for the best.
40:27My ass knew before I did.
40:30Do you prefer romantic comedies or steamy thrillers when it comes to love stories?
40:34I prefer rom-com.
40:36Yeah.
40:37What's the most surprising thing you've learned about yourself for dating?
40:41The most surprising thing I've learned about myself while dating is that my opinion actually matters.
40:46Do you think your on-screen villain persona has influenced how people approach you in real life?
40:51One thousand percent.
40:52We don't need to do all the chia.
40:53We need that.
40:55Magnesium.
40:55I think people think that I am a raging B-I-T-C-H in real life, and are scared of me, and think that I'm gonna be super mean.
41:05But I'm not!
41:06Have you ever had a date that fell straight out of a movie, romantic or disastrous?
41:11I had, okay, my first date, actually, I had with my boyfriend.
41:16He's a director.
41:17We had a date planned.
41:18He had to cancel it because his location got messed up, and so we had to go location scouting.
41:25So he was like,
41:25Do you want to come with me, location scouting?
41:27And I was like,
41:29Sure, I guess.
41:30So I went with his entire production team, and it was the most awkward thing.
41:34Thank God I can talk forever.
41:36So I was just kind of pretending to be part of the set, and then we left, and it was fine.
41:41What's one thing you wish people knew about you when it comes to relationships?
41:46I wish...
41:47I wish people knew that I am a sensitive little baby bunny that's abandoned in the forest.
42:05Because I'm really soft, and I just want to be loved, and that's really the real me.
42:11I'm not like,
42:12Oh, I'm gonna take you down.
42:14Like, I actually am like,
42:16I just want to help and be collaborative.
42:19Oh, come on, what?
42:20You know.
42:23Has playing a villain made you more or less skeptical about love?
42:28Playing a villain has made me less skeptical about love, I would say,
42:34because the good girl always gets the guy.
42:36If you're a good person, and you're not like a raging bitch, like the villains,
42:43you'll find love.
42:44That's crunchy.
42:50Yum.
42:52Delicious.
42:54Sarah, this is so good.
42:56It's so delicious.
42:57I'm so particular about my smoothies, too, but...
43:00It was really fun watching you make it.
43:03This is not my best work, but it's definitely pretty good.
43:07Well, I had so much fun today with you.
43:09I mean, come on.
43:09We made smoothies.
43:11We talked about dating.
43:12It was really nice learning about you and learning about how comfortable you are with your emotions
43:16and how you bring that to the set.
43:18Even though I know we always see you in villain roles, I'm really excited to see what you're going to do next.
43:25And what roles you'll have.
43:26Is there anything that you want to say to the fans before I let you go?
43:29Yeah, of course.
43:30Everyone who's been watching and just, you know, following me in my career for some time now.
43:35I just want to say how I see all of it.
43:38It doesn't go unnoticed and it makes me feel so filled with love.
43:42And I can't wait to keep working and showing you guys what kind of roles I can do and just the range I have.
43:48And I just want to keep making content for you guys.
43:51And I've just had so much fun with you here today.
43:53And yeah, I'm here to always talk about the real stuff, the nitty gritty, the unsexy things about being a person and just trying to live.
44:03Yeah.
44:04So I thank you for letting me be honest in a safe place.
44:07Yeah.
44:07No, I mean, I feel so safe and honest with you.
44:10I mean, the type of questions you asked me, but I can't wait to have you more around.
44:15I think it will be fun.
44:16Love you.
44:17Love you.
44:17Cheers.
44:18Cheers.
44:18Cheers.
44:18Cheers.
44:48Cheers.
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