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00:00Hey everyone, I'm Sarah Malisky and welcome to Real Talk, where we get hot, spicy, and to the drama.
00:09Okay, Richard, you and Jessica are actually the picture-perfect couple.
00:15Like, I need a photo of you guys on my wall to try to get what you guys got going on.
00:21That's like a vision board.
00:22Yeah, exactly. You two and your family on my vision board.
00:25I don't know, like, it was kind of funny, actually.
00:27Whenever people ask me at my job, like, when I'm interacting with all these different clients,
00:30and they're saying, like, show me, like, what are your pictures of your family?
00:33I have it on my lock screen, actually, and I usually show them.
00:36And usually everyone makes fun of me.
00:37They're like, why are you showing me a Pottery Barn ad?
00:40It's like, I'm like, well, that's actually my wife and kids, but yeah.
00:43And they're just like, wait, what? That's real?
00:45Yeah, they don't even believe it's real.
00:46They're like, all right, stop showing me a Pottery Barn ad.
00:48Like, actually show me your actual family.
00:49Right.
00:50I know, I get it a lot. It's kind of funny. I'm used to it.
00:52But yes, I'm very, they make me look good, let's just say that.
00:55Oh my gosh, so good. Incredible.
00:58But speaking of, you know, picture-perfect families and everything like that,
01:02you've been in so many amazing Real Short Vertical Soap Opera series,
01:06especially some here that I have, which are The Billionaire's Baby Bargain, number one.
01:12That was your first one, right?
01:13That was my first one ever, actually.
01:14It's what brought me into the world of Real Short.
01:16And yeah, I couldn't get enough of it.
01:18I had such an amazing time that I was like, all right, let's keep going.
01:22And yeah.
01:23So with your first, I love asking this question to soap opera actors,
01:28especially in the vertical space.
01:30Soap opera, yeah.
01:30What was it like walking on to a vertical set?
01:34Was that the first time you've ever done anything the other way?
01:37Yeah, like it was so funny because all I ever did, I mean, it's so funny referring to it now
01:41because at the time of my first, I never really referred to these things as horizontal and vertical space, you know?
01:46Right.
01:46Like I literally just got done shooting, the previous gig that I did was at the Manhattan Beach Studios
01:51where they film Avatar and The Mandalorian.
01:54So I actually filmed in the volume.
01:55So they open up this giant 10-story like LED door and you walk into this place and then they shut it behind you.
02:01Oh.
02:01And it's literally, I know, it's LEDs everywhere.
02:04And so that's, all the crew had like Mando hats and like Avatar hats.
02:07It was so cool.
02:08But then I walk onto this set and it's, they literally rigged the red camera to actually go vertical.
02:14And so I was like, oh, this is cool.
02:16This is different.
02:16I love interacting with people on the fringes of the industry and they're like, you know, innovating.
02:21And so it's great because I landed there.
02:24And of course, I mean, you've worked with Nani.
02:25Oh my God.
02:26I love, it was Nani's first, she's a director for it, by the way.
02:29And it was her first time ever working on a set with the vertical space as well.
02:33And so we kind of like latched onto each other.
02:35And the entire experience was so amazing that we just couldn't look back and we keep going.
02:40And so when you, when you did your first vertical, were you like, oh, this is new.
02:47This is cool.
02:47Like, what did you think about it?
02:50I didn't know what to expect because I remember when we walked on set and like I said, they
02:54had rigged these cameras to go up vertical now.
02:56And then spacing is completely different because you're used to, you know, blocking and choreography
03:01now is like, you know, you're extremely tight and extremely close.
03:03And then they're aggressive on these sets.
03:07They do 10 to 12 pages.
03:09Oh my God.
03:09Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:10When you get spoiled on the normal set, the horizontal space, you're like, aggressive is
03:14three to four pages.
03:15And then now we're doing like 12, 14, 15 pages a day.
03:19And I love it, to be honest, because I did a lot of short films that I produced, created,
03:25wrote, directed, produced, like the credits are a joke.
03:27It's just like me over and over.
03:28But like whenever, like you're trying to, with your artistic vision, going about it like
03:33that, I saw how the cost can get crazy.
03:35It's like, it's trying to be in control of everything from a producer perspective and
03:38trying to see like, you know, locations, budgets, like, you know, all that stuff.
03:42It can get kind of nuts.
03:44And then all of a sudden you see these guys almost scaling that business model of aggressively
03:49guerrilla style going through these things and getting through a ton of pages, but then
03:52doing it well.
03:52That's what I saw.
03:53It was extremely efficient, extremely professional.
03:55And that's why I love being a part of it because I got to see it from the inside out.
03:59So from doing your first show to your most recent show, have you seen a change in the
04:05workflow, even with specifically talking about you, have you gotten more confident in the
04:10space or has it helped you in different areas than before as an actor?
04:15I love the range that they were asking me to do.
04:17So I did a couple of these ones.
04:19The CEO billionaire is like that.
04:21Yeah, I would think so.
04:22Oh, you got married in Vegas, the first one, Billionaire Baby Bargain.
04:26And it was new to me.
04:27Of course, I was like, oh, this is cool.
04:28I get to be the CEO.
04:29And then all of a sudden they asked me this latest one.
04:33It's a new angle that they're playing now.
04:35It's like it's with kids.
04:36It's very, very dark.
04:38Oh.
04:38And there's like some, it's like an artist who you express yourself, like, you know,
04:42opening up your instrument and being able to play the charming lead or whatever.
04:46And then there's some very dark like scenes that we do that, you know, pull on the heartstrings
04:49and like shed some tears and stuff.
04:51And so like being able to utilize that aspect of like, you know, acting, I loved it.
04:56As far as like, you know, taking into a new lead, they reached out to me and they're like,
04:59we're taking like, you know, a new angle with this one.
05:01We think you're perfect for it.
05:02We think you've got the range to do it.
05:04And I was like, let's go.
05:05It was fun.
05:05It was amazing.
05:06Was that your most recent?
05:07That's my most recent.
05:08It's actually coming out soon.
05:09Oh, what's the name of it?
05:11It's a working title.
05:12Okay, working title.
05:12You know, they always change it every single time.
05:13They do.
05:14They do.
05:14You might have to change that.
05:15Yeah.
05:16No, they really do always change it though.
05:18So it's like three times before it comes out.
05:19It'll be like eight things.
05:20You're like, did I act in that one?
05:21I know.
05:22What is that one?
05:23Yeah.
05:24Oh, cool.
05:24I can't wait to see that.
05:26So there are, there's children in that one.
05:28There's children.
05:29Yeah.
05:29Was that the first time you acted with children?
05:33Yeah.
05:33And these little, these are the Russian girls.
05:36It's like April and Anna.
05:37So it was hilarious because they showed up on set and these girls are professionals.
05:41Like this isn't their first gig.
05:43Like they do hundreds of these shows.
05:45Okay.
05:45And so they walk on set and I was just like, geez, like they should be number one in the
05:48culture.
05:49Right.
05:49Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:50And she's four years old.
05:52But they, yeah, they're rock stars.
05:53They got on there and did the scenes.
05:55There's like heavy crying.
05:56There's like full drama.
05:58And these girls got in there and killed it.
05:59And I'm off set.
06:00I'm like right off screen going, they're amazing.
06:02And so you're going to see it whenever these shows come out, like these girls are killing
06:07it.
06:07And I loved it.
06:08I love being a part of that whole thing.
06:09Well, I remember I was casting a show and I wanted you as the lead.
06:15And then I was, the character had a wife and two kids.
06:19Yep.
06:19And I was like, looking at you, I didn't know you yet.
06:22And I was stalking you and I was like, oh my God, is that his family?
06:24Again, going back to the Pottery Barn ad.
06:26I was like, I was like, that's not, that's, that's his family.
06:30Called the producer.
06:31I was like, can we get them in here?
06:33And they were like, yeah, if you can make it work.
06:34And I call you, I'm like, Richard, hi, I'm Sarah.
06:37So nice to meet you.
06:38Can I get you and your family?
06:39Almost got that to work.
06:41I know.
06:41We tried.
06:42We really tried.
06:42We tried so hard.
06:43I know.
06:43We tried so hard.
06:44Are you in the future thinking of maybe getting the whole fam involved in a shoot?
06:51Or what does that look like for you?
06:52No, like, you know, you've been referencing the episode prior, like getting them accustomed
06:55to being in front of the camera and liking it.
06:58And I never want to push it on them.
06:59I know like there's the, like the stereotypes of like the theater bomb.
07:03Yeah.
07:03Richard, the theater bomb.
07:04Be amazing.
07:05Be amazing.
07:06You know, like trying to relive some, maybe you didn't get to live that in your life.
07:09So you're trying to live it through your kids.
07:10I'm very hands off with that stuff.
07:12I'm just like, if they want to be a part of it, go for it.
07:15I'm here to help, but I'm not going to try and push that.
07:17But they have, I, they, they, they love watching these TikTok videos that I make.
07:22They're like these little BTS videos that I always take on set.
07:25And there's so much fun.
07:26Like everybody in the comment boards, they keep saying, they're like, oh my God, like it just
07:29looks like being on set with you is just a blast.
07:32It's like, it really is.
07:33It's like, we're, we're dancing.
07:34We're being stupid.
07:35We're taking videos the whole time.
07:36And I always mash them together.
07:38And I release them around the time for part of the marketing when these like shows drop.
07:42And my kids watch them on repeat.
07:43They're just like, they literally like, dad, dad, you're an actor.
07:46And I'm like, yeah, this is what you do.
07:47And they think, they think being an actor is just screwing around these BTS videos, like
07:51having fun.
07:52And they're like, I want to do that.
07:53And I was like, yeah, there's a little bit more to that, but it is fun.
07:55It's great.
07:56And so if they think it's fun and like, I always tell them, it's like, chase the fun.
07:59If it's something that, you know, it does bring you happiness, then go for it.
08:01Well, talking about that with you being on set, making TikToks, being smart with marketing,
08:08putting it, dropping it right when the show drops, smart, smart, smart.
08:11So it seems like you do a lot of stuff.
08:15You got a lot going on.
08:16So just tell me a little bit about that.
08:18What's it like being an actor, being a father, also having 18 different jobs and hobbies and
08:23things that you do that make money and are really just up and coming and cool stuff.
08:28How do you handle being that person?
08:32What's interesting, actually, is that in B school, whenever I was getting my MBA, there
08:36was one of the homework assignments was there's a famous thought leader, you know, his name
08:43is Simon Sinek.
08:43He always asked the question, like, you need to find your why.
08:46And when you find your why for anything in life, like whether for me, at least personally,
08:51when I really took the assignment seriously, I was like, what is my why?
08:55And my why was it was really to try and create this little piece of heaven on earth for my
09:02family.
09:03And when you try to do something like that, when you try to bring something from a celestial
09:08realm of a deity down to earth, oh, my God, it takes a lot of effort.
09:12And so it takes you literally to create and curate and make this little piece of heaven
09:17on earth for your family.
09:18Like, you cherish it, you love it, but then you have to leave it.
09:22You have to leave it in order to what?
09:24Work.
09:24You have to go toil.
09:26You have to go, like, if you want to take the farmer analogy and stuff, you've got to
09:29toil the ground.
09:30You've got to plant the seeds.
09:31You've got to water it.
09:32It takes a lot of time and attention.
09:33And, you know, there's a lot of things you have to wait for the harvest.
09:36And then you can bring it.
09:36And then you finally come back to your little piece of heaven that you want to try and curate
09:39and you give it back to them.
09:41And it takes a lot, a lot of time, a lot of intention and a lot of effort.
09:45And so that was, for me, finding that endless well of energy and that endless well of the
09:52constant rigor to keep doing that comes from my why, which is that little my family that
09:56I'm trying to keep and that little piece of heaven that I'm trying to curate and basically
09:59water that garden, you know?
10:02Oh, my God.
10:06Question for you on that.
10:09You seem on the outside just from seeing you to have it figured out that you have this
10:16thought process and this, this like plan you've made.
10:20And it's so thought out.
10:22It's so calculated and, and made to perfection.
10:26What do you do on those days?
10:28If you're like actually exhausted or you're like having a bad day, you're in a bad mood,
10:32you're annoyed, you don't feel like doing this, or you're just overwhelmed or someone
10:35at work's pissing you off or you're having trouble with your, like, how do you do all
10:40of these different things that you do and still keep it this, this guy right here?
10:45Uh, thank you, first off, for that compliment.
10:47No, but try it truly.
10:48I keep it, you know, well composed, thank you, because inside it's just, it's a mess.
10:52I think, I think I'm actually, um, undiagnosed ADD, so like I'm actually really good at juggling
10:56stuff because I'm constantly like, you know, that's where my mind goes.
10:59And I actually would argue that it's kind of like a superpower.
11:02I, I, I, I always give the advice to like friends of mine who feel like they're like,
11:06they kind of pinpoint, they're like, I think you are ADHD.
11:08I was like, and I like that.
11:09It's like, it's like, it's like a mutant power.
11:11Yeah.
11:11You know, like in the X-Men series, whenever, uh, I'm kind of a nerd, okay?
11:16So there's very specific, uh, analogies that I always pull from, but like Professor Xavier
11:22in the, the X-Men series, wherever he was taking that serum to basically dumb down his
11:28mutant power because he wanted to be normal and stuff.
11:31I was like, and then of course the argument that Magneto made was like, why don't you
11:34actually embrace that?
11:35And like, you know, what makes you different is actually a superpower.
11:38Right.
11:38And I always like take that mindset whenever it, with my own, like, you know, ADHD kind
11:43of mindset where I feel like I am kind of scatterbrained a little bit and I do like juggle
11:47a lot of stuff, but how is that a bad thing?
11:50I would actually argue that, you know, maintaining all those different things.
11:52And having those different things that I focus on be business pursuits and like, whether
11:57it's your family relationships or business and stuff, like it's almost a superpower that
12:02you kind of want to amplify.
12:03So I like it.
12:04I actually turn it negative.
12:05What most people would perceive as a negative to a positive.
12:08Do you, if you're having a day that it seems like you've got it down with being able to
12:14put energy in so many different areas and pockets, but if you're ever, do you have any
12:18tips and tricks for some viewers and myself, if you're just like, you're having like a
12:23bad day, but you have to provide for your family and you provide for your career and
12:27yourself, how do you kind of just like get that little spark back up?
12:32It's fine.
12:32It's, it really is defining your why.
12:34It's that, why are you doing this in the first place?
12:36And if you can always go back to that, when you have those moments, when you have those
12:39moments, cause it's going to happen.
12:41Right.
12:41As much as you wish that you can plan stuff out, forecasting or whatever you want in
12:45the business mindset, if you want to use that vernacular, nothing goes as planned.
12:50It never does.
12:50I mean, even the pursuit today, like we were trying to get here on time, the call sheets
12:53stuff like that, like we're stuck in traffic and we're texting each other.
12:56We're not driving and texting.
12:58I'm talking to Siri.
13:00You were talking to Siri.
13:01I was like, yo Richard, I'm late as shit.
13:04But there's stuff, Murphy's Law always kicks in and stuff that, you know, the worst possible
13:07things that can happen will always happen.
13:09And I actually look at that as not like a bad thing.
13:12It's just like, you know, how do you evolve and adapt?
13:14And if you want to lean on the artistic mindset of like improv, improv, it's never, you never
13:18say no in improv, but obviously not.
13:20That's how you kill it.
13:21You always do the yes and.
13:22And so I always look at something when like, you know, there's curve balls thrown at you
13:26in life.
13:26It's like, okay, you don't say no or freak out or like, you know, lose your cool.
13:30You always go like, okay, yes, this is happening.
13:32And now what?
13:34What's your next play or what's your next move?
13:36So I always look at those things not as like, you know, an insurmountable obstacle, but now
13:39you just got to maneuver and pivot.
13:41Problem solve it.
13:42Yeah.
13:42Problem solve it.
13:43Yeah.
13:43And if you want to really get into like the real arc of like, you know, playing, playing
13:48leads, not only in shows and in movies, but then playing the lead character of your own
13:52life, like, like, like jump back and like pull yourself out of it and look at it from
13:57like a 30,000 foot, like, you know, perspective.
14:00It's like, how amazing would a movie be if the character would just complain the whole
14:04time, just sit in bed and like, you know, cry and then roll over.
14:06Like how much, how much of that movie would you sit there and watch before you're just
14:09like, okay, I got to turn into something else.
14:11The reason why the most motivating movies that I see and like where the characters are
14:16men of action, women of action, and they always make decisions at these key critical
14:20points in like, you know, the storyline where all of a sudden everything's on the line.
14:24They feel like there's multiple guns, you know, their backs are against the wall and
14:27then they, they triumph because they're a people of action.
14:31And I always take that mindset for leading the story of your life.
14:35Like that's what, that's how, that's how you take it.
14:37So it's almost like if they were going to tell your story or make a movie about you,
14:41Oh, those moments where the cliffhangers happened, what did you do?
14:45Right.
14:46Not sit there and just complain and be like annoyed of the situation.
14:49That's a good point.
14:51I'm going to, I'm going to use that.
14:52What's your sign?
14:54Lead of your own movie.
14:55I knew it.
14:58I should have said it.
15:00I should have been like, are you a Virgo?
15:04Do you have a Leo in there too?
15:06I don't know.
15:07I don't know that.
15:07You know, okay.
15:08I know.
15:09But a lot, a lot of people, when they break it down, it's kind of scary, actually.
15:12It's not that I don't believe in it.
15:13Like when the people actually know what they're talking about.
15:15But the Virgos don't believe in it.
15:16That's like, that's so Virgo to say.
15:18That's so Virgo to say.
15:18Yeah, that was so Virgo to say.
15:20But yeah, when people break it down, because some people on set, they're like, they live
15:23and die by it.
15:24And they're explaining it to me.
15:25I'm just like, it's creepy.
15:27Sarah.
15:27Sarah Newell.
15:28Creepily, it was on the money.
15:29Yeah.
15:30On the money.
15:30And I was just like, okay, that's crazy.
15:32Virgo.
15:33I love that.
15:34What's your wife?
15:35She's cancer.
15:36Virgo to cancer is a stunning match.
15:38Everybody says that.
15:39And then whenever I, you know, kind of like Googled it and like tried to find out, they're
15:42like, one of my biggest matches is cancer.
15:44And I was like, I kind of naturally fell into that.
15:46Yeah.
15:46Oh, I love that.
15:48Oh my gosh.
15:48Oh, I love that.
15:50Okay.
15:50So let's talk a little bit about your origin story almost.
15:54Where are you from?
15:55How did you get here?
15:57What is that look like?
15:59So, oh man, we can go all the way back to the beginning.
16:02Like when I really started falling in love with this whole like artistic endeavor, it was
16:07my mom.
16:08My mom is actually an immigrant.
16:09She came from Peru.
16:10So that's a country in South America.
16:12And when she got here, we're talking about the most cliche, stereotypical, like American
16:16dream story.
16:17She came here with nothing and she worked her butt off.
16:20She would do anything, babysit, like walk dogs, like, you know, anything to make money.
16:23And then she met my father and the love story began.
16:27And then they got married and had kids.
16:29And so I still remember my earliest and fondest memories of my mother is she would, they were
16:36too poor to afford English classes, like proper English classes to go to a school and learn
16:40it.
16:40So she would sit in front of the TV and watch movies, like old Hollywood classics.
16:45And I still, like I said, my earliest, my hazy memories are sitting in my mom's lap
16:50watching all of these Hollywood classic films with her.
16:53So she would learn English.
16:54Yeah.
16:55And I'm learning English too.
16:56I'm a kid.
16:56But also I'm sitting there watching Steve McQueen, The Great Escape.
17:00I actually ride a motorcycle now because of that movie, The Great Escape, where Steve
17:05McQueen famously is trying to jump the barbed wire fence to get out of the concert video
17:08camp.
17:09I drive a BMW R9T Scrambler because it looks just like that in the movie.
17:14And I was like, those are those things in life where my fondest memories are linked to
17:18that and like storytelling and like sharing those moments with my mom where, you know,
17:21we would laugh at, you know, funny moments in those like, you know, movies or cry and like
17:25the very dramatic ones and stuff.
17:26And I could see how impactful watching films are or watching TV shows.
17:31And I was like, oh, this is amazing.
17:33I would love to be able to be in a position to do this, to be impactful and to like change
17:38people's like, you know, if you really look at it, you're just sitting in front of a TV
17:42screen, but yet you can laugh and cry.
17:45And like, you can feel all these amazing emotions and they're extremely real.
17:49And it's like, that's powerful.
17:50It's cool.
17:51And I was like, if there's any way possible, I could be a part of this.
17:53I want to do that.
17:55That was kind of the genesis of it.
17:57But you're a young boy in a very remote town of Oklahoma.
18:02Okay.
18:03So I'm a midwife's boy.
18:04Bottlesville, Oklahoma is where I was raised mostly.
18:07I fell in love with that.
18:08And if we really want to get deep, when you have a small town, it's very nurture versus
18:13nature, like you're in a small town.
18:16And when I would go to the movie theaters and see these movies and like, I was just so
18:19moved by them.
18:20But you feel like being born and raised in a small town, someone else, someone else gets
18:27to live that dream.
18:27And actually, you know, it's real for them, but it's not for a small town.
18:31And that disconnect and stuff.
18:33I always like, it was bitter for me.
18:34It was kind of, I don't know if we want to get, we want to get real, real.
18:39Yeah.
18:39Let's get real, real.
18:40So one of my favorite movies is Aladdin.
18:43And there's a, there's a key scene in that movie where he's protecting these kids in
18:49the streets because he's a street rat.
18:50Yeah.
18:51And the kids go out in front of the suitors that are being sent over to marry Princess
18:55Jasmine, you know, and it's like this prince, this like arrogant prince.
18:58And the kids jump out in front of the horse because they want to play.
19:00And then the prince steers up, Aladdin jumps up to protect them.
19:05And he almost like whips the kids.
19:07And he's like, if I was as rich as you, I've learned some manners, you know, that scene.
19:09Yeah.
19:10And the prince kicks him, kicks Aladdin into the mud.
19:14And he was like, you were born a street rat.
19:16You'll die a street rat.
19:18And only your fleas will mourn you.
19:20And he goes inside the palace and Aladdin gets up to go fight him, of course, you know,
19:24and they shut the palace doors on him.
19:26And I feel like that, I don't know why that scene hit me so much as a kid, because I felt
19:32like the palace doors of opportunity, of success, of, you know, whatever that means to you, of
19:37like whatever your dream is, there is a certain echelon or cast of people that get to pursue
19:42those things or allowed to do that, you know, because of opportunity.
19:44And the rest of us almost feel like the palace doors get shut up.
19:49Yeah.
19:49And so, I always looked at that as kind of like this genesis for me of, I got to find
19:56a lamp.
19:57I got to find a genius.
19:59Yeah.
19:59Yeah.
20:00I got to, I got to, I got to rub, you know, two cents together and try to get a dollar
20:06or like, you know, find a lamp that can grant you these wishes and change your life for the
20:10better.
20:11Marry a princess and then live in the palace and then your whole life changes.
20:16And for me, chasing that, I always felt like the, my magic lamp was education.
20:23My parents instilled that to me as such a young kid.
20:25And that's what immediately, whenever I graduated high school from Oklahoma, I went to NYU.
20:31You went straight to the city.
20:32I went straight to the palace.
20:34Yeah, you did.
20:34The palace doors weren't shut on me for that.
20:36For instance, that was my way in was education.
20:39So I went, did my undergrad at NYU.
20:40I was in New York City, Manhattan of all places.
20:43And it was amazing.
20:44And then later on in life, you know, I went and got my MBA from USC.
20:48And so everything changes when I got to rub my magic lamp and the genie came out and
20:54opportunities started happening for a young boy who, if I didn't chase those things or
20:59didn't, you know, pursue education, I would almost feel like the, I don't think that genie
21:03would have ever come out, but the genie has, and you get to actually get, you know, grant
21:07those wishes.
21:08Have you ever had a project that seems a little intimidating or out of your league or anything?
21:14Yeah, I think whenever there, we had some viral comedic web series that me and somebody
21:19started and it was, it was doing very well.
21:21And so we were starting to get attention from big brand names.
21:24We worked with Disney, like Mattel, Lucasfilm, and Lucasfilm was the one.
21:27It was whenever the Disney acquisition of Lucasfilm happened, it was around episode seven,
21:32whenever JJ Abrams was doing like, you know, the big re, the last, like, you know, episodes
21:36or whatever, the new ones.
21:38And they're doing a huge global marketing push.
21:40And so they reached out to us and they said, hey, we love what you guys do.
21:43Can you come to LA, shoot at Disney Studios, and we'll give you the Mos Eisley Cantina bar
21:49set with stormtroopers and everything.
21:51Like the real one.
21:52The real one.
21:53Like, that's what's so crazy.
21:54And when they reached out to us, we're like, us?
21:57Yeah, you're like, uh, hello.
21:58Yeah, of course.
22:00You know what I mean?
22:00It was one of those moments where it's just like, oh God, okay.
22:03You just say yes, right?
22:04Even though it's intimidating, it's Star Wars.
22:06I watched it ever since I was a kid.
22:07I loved this.
22:09And then it was like, all right, so now we have to deliver.
22:11And so we prep like crazy, obviously.
22:14And you make sure that, you know, you don't stumble when you walk in.
22:17Yeah, right.
22:18Like, of course, this is normal for us.
22:19But we walked in and I'm like, giddy kid.
22:22I'm seeing the Cantina bar scene from, it's the first time that Han Solo and Chewie meet
22:27Luke Skywalker, the famous Luke Skywalker and Obi-Wan.
22:29And I'm seeing it in real life.
22:31And so they gave us extras too.
22:32So they had like the whole, like the aliens are in there.
22:36You got like the aliens playing like the music and the dance.
22:38And then we shot our thing, we did it, and we got out of there.
22:42Just like anything in life, like if you, people get jittery or have butterflies before like
22:46a big game on like weekends and stuff.
22:48Like I used to play basketball.
22:49And so like when you would show up and like all the crowds going crazy and all of a sudden
22:53you start getting some butterflies.
22:54But then once you start doing your warmups and you're doing the game, they all disappear.
22:58And then all of a sudden you just do your thing.
23:00Same thing happens on set with me.
23:01It's like, you know, once you're actually in a scene and doing your thing, like it doesn't
23:05matter if there's like 50 crew members or there's like even producers sitting there.
23:08And stuff like that.
23:09They all just kind of disappear.
23:11So the same thing happened on this set with the canteen bars.
23:13And we ended up getting into like the role of like us doing our thing.
23:17Everyone disappeared.
23:19And we're actually, in fact, everyone's cracking up and laughing.
23:21And they're like, dude, these guys, who are these guys?
23:22They're freaking funny.
23:23I know.
23:24And all of a sudden everybody kind of like rallied behind us because we were like the no
23:27names, you know, and then all of a sudden they did so well when they put it online
23:31that they put us on the front page of Star Wars.com.
23:33So anytime they do like the May the 4th be with you, you know, kind of push or like
23:37they always kind of like, you know, tag it and like, you know, hey, remember these guys?
23:41It's really cool.
23:42So I got like a piece of Star Wars that, you know, this entire thing of so, you know,
23:46monumental in my like, you know, young childhood life.
23:48So I got to have a part of it.
23:49It was fun.
23:50When you were on the set, did you recognize all of the characters?
23:54Yeah.
23:54Were you like, wait, I remember this one?
23:56I was like, I know this one.
23:57I know this one.
23:57Yeah.
23:58And it was, it was, it was the little kid.
24:02So I actually make the, make the joke and stuff.
24:04It's like when you really tap into something that's beautiful and joyous, it's like your
24:07inner kid pops up and like, and like all of a sudden those like, my wife calls them pure
24:12joy moments.
24:13Yeah.
24:13She loves creating pure joy moments, not only for each other, but like especially for the
24:18kids.
24:18Oh, for sure.
24:19And I feel like if you're able to have a career and do jobs here and there that awaken
24:27that little child in you, that is the biggest blessing in the world ever.
24:31Yeah.
24:32It's, it's tough.
24:32It really is.
24:33Like, I mean, to go back to like the impactful scene, like I talked about earlier with the
24:37Aladdin one, a lot of people get the palace gates shut on them and they feel like it's
24:41impossible to get around it or to find their way over the gates, you know, to sneak into
24:44the palace.
24:45And like, I felt like I found my way of getting in, which isn't the same for everybody.
24:49But I do think that, you know, high percentage chance is education.
24:53That's how you can kind of open up those doors to opportunities for like stuff like this.
24:56It's amazing.
24:56And then like, all of a sudden your inner child is happy.
24:59Right.
24:59It's happy to go to work.
25:00Right.
25:01I feel like something that you said too was saying yes and being brave with opportunity
25:09even and seeking something out that you might think you're not right for even.
25:14Like you don't know.
25:15Always take a chance.
25:16Always take a risk.
25:17Always ask.
25:18I feel.
25:18And I feel like you're really good at doing that.
25:21That's exactly what happened actually for the MBA program itself.
25:24I mean, I share with you a story even on set.
25:27Like, you know, it was I didn't plan to be an MBA student even at the beginning of that
25:32year.
25:33And it was it was a very.
25:36It was like it was the all is lost moment that they talk about in like the three act
25:40story arc of telling a story.
25:43Always lost.
25:43We were telling we were actually about to sell a TV show and I was working close with everybody.
25:49We got the format together with a very, very successful and famous production company.
25:53We did a co-pro with them.
25:55We brought in a celebrity.
25:56The celebrity had a first look deal at CBS.
25:58We go into pitch at CBS studios.
26:01Everybody's high fiving because all they're doing is just cracking jokes with the executive.
26:04Yeah.
26:04He already has shows there.
26:05And so we're just like, it's on the show.
26:07Locked in.
26:08It's like lights came around.
26:10It's like, oh, we did it.
26:11We did it.
26:13And then March 2020 happened.
26:14COVID.
26:15We were like literally flying cloud nine to zero.
26:19We're talking like the roller coaster of like entrepreneurship and like chasing the dream
26:22and stuff like you could have the highest of highs and the lowest of lows.
26:26And that lowest of low hit hard.
26:28And then my daughter was born in the middle of April, April 2020.
26:35And it was so bad.
26:36And like, you know, it was such a unique time in like the world, you know, they were even
26:41threatening to kick me out of the delivery room.
26:43So my wife would have had to like deliver coset alone.
26:45And so enough lawsuits that happened on the East Coast with like fathers suing hospitals.
26:52Now it happened here on the West Coast that they were like, all right, fine.
26:54Only you can be there.
26:55I'm like, thanks.
26:56Thanks for letting me be there.
26:57Yeah.
26:57Thank you for letting me be there.
26:58Let me be there.
26:59With my wife and baby.
27:00With my wife and baby.
27:01And so my wife, April 2020, we're holding a crying baby.
27:05And she looks at me and she's like, what are you going to do?
27:07Yeah.
27:08Yeah.
27:08And like there's those moments in life, like I said, like the all is lost moments where
27:12you really, really find out who you are, you know, where your back's up against the
27:15wall.
27:16Go is the proverbial.
27:17You got like multiple barrels.
27:19You're looking down them, you know, pointed at your head and like, what do you do?
27:21I just think that's really important for us to just talk about too, just because it
27:26seems so easy, right?
27:28Our lives and the things we've been able to achieve, but.
27:31And social media, you only post the best parts.
27:32Yeah.
27:33I'm not posting myself crying in the bed at night.
27:36Yeah.
27:36Yeah, exactly.
27:37You don't, you don't post whenever.
27:39I'm not.
27:39Your whole world crumbles and you have a crying baby and your wife looks at you saying, what
27:42are you going to do?
27:43You don't post that moment.
27:45You post when I got accepted to USC and I was like, yeah, I'm going to be a Trojan.
27:48Yeah.
27:48I was like, oh, that's so cool.
27:49Yeah.
27:50You don't, you don't post the dark moments of your soul.
27:52It's just really inspiring though, to hear that you had this happen and then you did the
27:56USC move.
27:57You know what's crazy?
27:59It was kind of like these.
28:00So after I go to USC and I get trapped, I tapped into this like Trojan.
28:04It's not the Trojan network.
28:05Yeah, look at his socks, guys.
28:06I'm always rocking the, do you kind of feel bad for NYU a little?
28:10Are you like, that's like the stepchild?
28:13I was like, I really felt what it meant to have like a network.
28:17Yeah.
28:17When you tap, when you tap into the Trojan network, it is nothing like I've ever experienced
28:22in my life.
28:22And the joke is that it's not the Trojan network, it's the Trojan mafia.
28:25Like, like, um, I actually got linked up with the school of cinematic arts.
28:30So I actually did part of one of the minor majors that I did underneath the MBA was a business
28:35of entertainment.
28:35And so they would actually take a lot of these Marshall kids, they would mark the business
28:38school and they would pop us over at the cinematic arts, the school of cinematic arts.
28:43And we would actually interact with those professors and like talk about the business of the
28:46entertainment world.
28:47And I actually got linked up with some pretty famous like directors, famous like, um, entertainment
28:52lawyers and stuff like that.
28:53And I remember I've had multiple lunches where they only say yes, because you're a fellow Trojan.
28:58Right.
28:59And I'm sitting there and I'm talking to one who was really, really successful.
29:02And I remember we immediately hit it off.
29:05Like we were talking, we're talking about, and I took a moment, even at the lunch, it
29:09was one of those moments where you just say, blurt something out and you're like, oh, shit,
29:13that was really for power.
29:13I was like, I didn't mean to do that.
29:15But I remember telling him, I was like, I feel like there's nothing that connects people
29:19faster than shared suffering.
29:22Oh, beyond.
29:24And the fact that he could feel it.
29:26He felt that I'd been in the trenches.
29:28He felt that I'd suffered.
29:29He felt that like I fought my way out.
29:31Yeah.
29:32The same way he did.
29:33All of a sudden you're like connected because you had this shared suffering where you both
29:38know how hard it can be.
29:40And then, yeah, we're instantly connected.
29:45We're like instantly BFS.
29:46Like all of a sudden, it's almost like us.
29:48It's like, we're prior to this.
29:51Yeah.
29:51It's like, we're both East Coast, like, you know, the New York life and stuff like that.
29:54It's tough.
29:54Yeah.
29:54You connect with someone immediately because you had that shared, if you would call it
29:59suffering, it's like if you were in the trenches together, you know exactly what it
30:02feels like.
30:02I feel like also kind of hitting on what you were talking about with Aladdin and you were
30:07like, I need that genie, that genie lamp, which is education for you.
30:11Yeah.
30:11And so you went to USC.
30:12And the thing is, I still feel this way about college being important.
30:17You do, even if you're not necessarily taking the classes seriously, which you should, but
30:22you make a network of people.
30:24Yes.
30:24And that's, that's who gets you the job.
30:26Like that's who kind of helps you secure different things.
30:31So what's so funny is that on set, whenever we shoot these things, you would think that
30:35we would like, we do goof a lot around.
30:37We like dance and do stupid stuff.
30:38But then all of a sudden, when this part of me comes out and like, you know, they find
30:42out, I actually have like two hour, three hour conversations about people about running
30:46strategy for what they want to do, their current situation, where they want to be in five,
30:5010, 20 years.
30:51And then we kind of reverse engineer and map it out.
30:53Mm-hmm.
30:54That's, I love it.
30:55I actually enjoy it.
30:55You're like a life coach.
30:57Yeah.
30:58Kind of.
30:58Without actually doing it.
31:00You just naturally are like a wizard, I'd say.
31:04Yeah.
31:05Or like maybe a Star Wars character.
31:08I think we might have some Star Wars trivia coming up.
31:11Oh my gosh.
31:12Yeah.
31:13Okay.
31:13So back to your knowledge on Star Wars, I think we're going to do some quick fire trivia.
31:18I'm going to try to do this.
31:19I'm going to try and do everybody proud.
31:21Let's see how well you know Star Wars.
31:24Which episode number is the first Star Wars film?
31:28Four.
31:29Yes!
31:30Yes, brother.
31:32Yes.
31:32I thought these were going to be super hard.
31:34Okay.
31:34Okay.
31:34This one's really hard.
31:37Okay, okay, okay.
31:39What color is Yoda's lightsaber?
31:42Yoda's?
31:42Yeah.
31:43Yellow.
31:45No.
31:46Really?
31:47Do you know?
31:48Yeah.
31:48I did know this one.
31:50I did.
31:51Green.
31:52Yeah.
31:52Of course it's green.
31:53Of course.
31:53It's either that or green.
31:55Yeah, yeah.
31:56It's not red.
31:57All right.
31:57Boo.
31:57Okay, okay.
31:58Next.
31:59Who trained Anakin Skywalker to become a Jedi?
32:03Obi-Wan Kenobi.
32:04Yes.
32:05No.
32:05Yeah.
32:06Obi-Wan Kenobi.
32:07You're our only hope.
32:08Yes.
32:09What is the name of the Wookiee homeworld?
32:16Chewbacca's homeworld?
32:17It says Wookiee.
32:19Oh, no.
32:20Wait.
32:20It's Kashak.
32:24What was that?
32:25Is that right?
32:26I think you pronounced it correctly with the right accent, right?
32:28Is that Kashak?
32:31Kashak.
32:31What's the Wookiee?
32:32It's the big dog.
32:33Oh, that?
32:33Oh, that guy.
32:36Yeah, that guy.
32:37Han Solo's a homie.
32:39Speaking of Han Solo, okay.
32:40Han Solo's ship name was?
32:42Millennium Falcon.
32:43Yeah, okay.
32:43I knew that.
32:44Come on.
32:45Oh, that's it?
32:46That's it?
32:46That's all we got.
32:47I did pretty good.
32:48Yeah, you did great.
32:49I thought you were coming at me with some hard stuff.
32:50Oh.
32:52So you've done so many different real short series,
32:56which out of all of them,
32:57if you had to pick, is your favorite?
32:59I know, it's asking which one's your favorite kid.
33:01I know, it's hard.
33:02It's hard.
33:03I think I always go back to what started this entire journey.
33:06And it's definitely the billionaire's baby bargain.
33:09I don't know, we talked about it.
33:09We touched on it earlier.
33:10My favorite director is Nani.
33:12I know you worked with her too.
33:13Yeah.
33:13She's phenomenal.
33:14She comes on set.
33:15She has the vision.
33:16She executes perfectly.
33:18But in spite of all that,
33:19she's still willing to let you play.
33:21And she's willing to have a scene kind of come out
33:23and go a different direction than what she initially thought.
33:25And she will let you do your thing.
33:27And if it's better, it's always the best idea wins,
33:30which is what I love the most about working with her.
33:32Because when we first got on set together,
33:34it was my first particle ever.
33:35And same thing with her.
33:36She was still trying to figure out all the logistics of it all.
33:40But we really latched onto each other
33:42and helped create something really profound, I think.
33:44And a lot of people responded to it.
33:46It's the most viral of all the series.
33:47It's the one that started it all.
33:49And it was very, very successful.
33:50And then it kind of got where it's like,
33:53let it keep going.
33:54It's like, if you've got this giant snowball already built up,
33:56let's just keep it going.
33:57And now I can't look back.
33:58Like, it's been such a great experience so far on Real Short.
34:02Was there, I know this is such a classic cliche question,
34:06but was there any super funny or memorable moments from that set
34:10that you can share with us?
34:12I think one that really hits home as far as the family,
34:15there's a famous story about Pacino when he goes,
34:18because I studied in New York City on the East Coast.
34:20It was like very conservative-minded.
34:21When Pacino goes and does Shakespeare in the Park,
34:24he actually calls up conservatories and he's like,
34:26give me your kids that won't be weird about it.
34:28Because he likes to actually hear the words spoken to him.
34:31So he'll actually recruit some of the conservatory kids.
34:33They go on, like, emptied out stage.
34:36And he'll be on there and they have all the kids surround him
34:38with all the different characters with open folios.
34:40And they'll actually say the words.
34:42And that's how he learns his lines.
34:44I don't know if that's BS or not.
34:45Of the other characters?
34:46Of the other characters.
34:47So Pacino portrays his character,
34:49but he wants to hear it and be in the space of the other actors,
34:52like, you know, saying their lines.
34:53So he'll recruit some conservatory kids to go do that.
34:56And I always, like, remember that story.
34:59Whether it's true or not, I don't know.
35:00I haven't met him.
35:00So I just heard of that story.
35:03I was like, that's cool.
35:03I also like hearing it too.
35:05And it helps me, like, learn lines.
35:06Oh, yeah.
35:07With the other, the lead actresses,
35:08I'll actually have them record lines for me.
35:10And I'll have them in my ears when I work out.
35:12And I walk the dog.
35:13Like, every single moment of, like, a reprieve,
35:15I always have them in my ears.
35:16So then, like, the lines get in, like, your blood literally.
35:19And that's what allows me, actually,
35:20to actually improv and be open in the space.
35:22It's like, you know, freedom.
35:23And Daniella was so nice to do that for me.
35:26And she was on FaceTime and we were talking.
35:28And the kids, of course, anytime I'm doing it,
35:30even with work or, like, you know, other clients
35:32or the other actresses, hey!
35:34They, like, jump on.
35:35And she was so amazing with the kids.
35:36Like, she's just like, oh, hi, what's your name?
35:38Like, Maverick's like, hey!
35:40And every single time I do these series,
35:44the other leads, the other characters, the other actors,
35:46when they interact with, like, you know, members of my family,
35:49the most amazing people ever.
35:50I mean, like, even with you today, it was like,
35:52you're doing, like, your twirls and stuff with my daughter.
35:54But they, I do have to say, and interject here,
35:58you do kind of have the cutest, most amazing family
36:01I think anyone's met.
36:02All thanks to my wife.
36:04Yeah.
36:05You did a good job.
36:05Yeah, she did.
36:06And so, yeah, yeah.
36:08Those interactions that they have with my family
36:10have only been nothing but positive.
36:12And so I think those are the big things.
36:14And if you want, like, you know,
36:15just the hilarity and the fun that we have on set
36:17behind the scenes, like I was referencing earlier,
36:19I actually do make little TikTok videos
36:21of just dumb BTS videos.
36:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:23Just us being dumb, dancing, laughing,
36:25having a good time.
36:27And when we cut them together, people feel that.
36:29It's, like, palpable.
36:30And people in the comments are always saying,
36:32it's like, God, being on set with you
36:33sounds like it's so much fun.
36:34And, like, it is.
36:35It's great.
36:36Yeah.
36:36Yeah.
36:37Yeah, yeah.
36:37So you talk so much about these fun,
36:40positive moments on this specific set.
36:43How has Real Short in general impacted your life?
36:47Even more so with the fact that there's
36:49this amazing community of fandom
36:51that Real Shorts has cultivated.
36:53I think a lot of people like to try.
36:55And, like, you know, they want to go out
36:57and say, like, let's make a community.
36:59Real Shorts has that.
37:00And they're extremely caring.
37:03Like, even lately, like, you know,
37:06LA is still going through it.
37:07Like, very close friends of mine lost their,
37:09all their life, their livelihood.
37:10They lost their homes in the fires.
37:12Altadena, Pacific Palisades.
37:14And in the middle of it all,
37:16a lot of the fandom were in my DMs
37:19and messaging my wife even saying,
37:20is Maverick and Cozy okay?
37:23And I had to kind of take a step back
37:25because I was like,
37:26these are fans from Europe.
37:27These are fans from South America,
37:29fans from Asia,
37:30calling my family out by name,
37:32saying, are you okay and safe?
37:34And they genuinely care.
37:36And I thought that that was something
37:37where I got to see firsthand
37:40this unique community that Real Short has
37:42and how amazing it is.
37:44I love it.
37:45It was really eye-opening for me
37:47and comforting.
37:48And I got to go talk to them and stuff
37:49and message everybody back.
37:50So thank you so much.
37:51Thank you so much for checking in.
37:53It meant a lot.
37:54Yeah, for sure.
37:56I mean, there's something that,
37:58it's just almost like an extra point there
38:01with having this beautiful fan base
38:04that actually cares about you
38:05as a human being as well,
38:06which is just,
38:07it's unique.
38:09It's a unique thing.
38:10And would you say that you're the type
38:11that definitely tries to answer all the fans?
38:14You try to respond to them?
38:15I know there's so many.
38:16I know, but I actually really genuinely do.
38:18There was another series that I did.
38:20I referenced it earlier.
38:21It's why we were on the front page
38:22of starwars.com
38:23where I got some notoriety.
38:24Like I would go to Disneyland
38:26or Disney World with my kids
38:27and we just stopped.
38:28And my wife is already used to that world
38:30like she was a princess.
38:32So people would wait three hours to meet her
38:36and they'd have these little 30 second,
38:3860 second at most,
38:39like interactions with a princess.
38:40And you have to remember,
38:42you have to pull yourself back.
38:43These kids have had these emotional ties
38:45to these princesses
38:46ever since they were kids.
38:47So it's actually a big moment
38:48for them to be fun.
38:50And every single interaction is unique.
38:53And if you leave them on a positive note,
38:55they'll remember it forever.
38:55Yeah.
38:56And I actually take that,
38:57my wife gets it too
38:58because whenever I get stopped,
39:00I kind of create that little 30 second,
39:0160 second magic for them.
39:03And she's the first one to say,
39:04you want me to take your camera?
39:05I can take a picture for you guys.
39:06And she's like, yeah,
39:06it's like a cute moment.
39:07So I actually adore it
39:08when people reach out and say hi
39:10and stuff like, I love it.
39:10So everyone who's watching,
39:12make sure you definitely reach out to him,
39:14especially now he won't respond to you
39:16with a 30 minute clip.
39:18I'm just kidding.
39:19But you should,
39:20you should totally reach out to Richard.
39:21He's, he's the nicest guy.
39:23With everything we've talked about,
39:24there's so much excitement here
39:26in the future as well
39:28of what we're doing.
39:29What would you love to see?
39:32What kind of show
39:33would you like to do here?
39:34If you could,
39:34if you'd be the writer,
39:35you know, do the whole thing.
39:36Yeah, the writer, director, producer,
39:37the whole nine yards.
39:37Yeah, which will probably happen.
39:39Let's, let's be real here.
39:41I would love to actually.
39:42I've already talked
39:42with a couple of people
39:43where like it could possibly
39:44be an opportunity
39:45and I would love it.
39:47I mean, we've already referenced
39:48to the fact that I wear a lot of hats.
39:49Yeah.
39:49So it's like, yeah,
39:50getting in there
39:51and actually having control
39:52and like, like I said,
39:53like control the reins
39:54of where things are moving.
39:55I would love that.
39:56I think what would be
39:57an amazing opportunity
39:58would be sci-fi.
39:59I think great, you know,
39:59like a Star Wars themed one
40:01where they could go into space
40:02or an action thriller
40:04where you could be
40:04like a James Bond
40:05kind of like, you know,
40:06lead man,
40:07like going through
40:07man of action
40:08when I was telling you about
40:09or even horror,
40:10like it would scare people.
40:12Oh my God.
40:13So talking about,
40:14you know,
40:15you wear 8,000 different hats
40:17and you are such a family man.
40:19How do you balance that?
40:22I think like,
40:23I mean, we did kind of
40:24touch on it earlier,
40:25but I do like the idea
40:26of like finding your why
40:27and then finding
40:28that endless well
40:29because a lot of people
40:30on that assignment
40:32that I talked about earlier,
40:33whenever they,
40:34the quick ways
40:35to like find your five whys
40:36to get to the soul of any,
40:38like, you know,
40:38the actual source
40:39of any problem.
40:41The five?
40:41Yeah, five whys.
40:42It's like a little quick trick.
40:44If they do in the IT world
40:45or like engineers,
40:45whenever they need to find
40:46or source a problem in IT,
40:48they just like ask you
40:48the five whys really quick.
40:50So why is it happening?
40:51All right, well,
40:51why is it happening?
40:53And then you can get
40:53really down to like the,
40:55the origin
40:56or like the actual problem
40:58and you can solve it
40:58at source
40:59and not just do
40:59a bunch of these band-aids
41:00and have it,
41:01you know,
41:02have it be a problem again.
41:03And I,
41:04and I kind of did that with mine.
41:05I was just like,
41:05all right, so why,
41:07why do you want to be a dad?
41:08Oh, to provide money,
41:09you know,
41:09I got to get money
41:10for my kids.
41:10All right, well, why?
41:11I was like, well,
41:12I'm a provider,
41:13you know,
41:13you can kind of get rid
41:14of the superficial ones
41:15and you can start
41:16really getting like,
41:18well, by the time
41:18you hit the fifth why,
41:19you're like, well,
41:19geez,
41:20I got to really figure this out.
41:21You know,
41:21it's like,
41:21what is the big overarching theme
41:23of your life of why?
41:25And that was when I really
41:26did find the source of it all.
41:28It was like trying,
41:28essentially what I'm trying to do
41:30is create a little piece
41:31of heaven for my family.
41:32Right.
41:33And like,
41:33so what does essentially
41:33that take?
41:34It's like,
41:34oh God,
41:35it takes a lot of work.
41:36It takes a lot of,
41:36you know,
41:37rigor,
41:38a lot of grit,
41:38a lot of all that stuff.
41:40And then as,
41:42when you see them flourish
41:44and you see them like,
41:45you know,
41:45succeed,
41:47oh God,
41:47when you're done
41:48at the end of the day,
41:48I mean,
41:49I told you about it,
41:49like I was working full time
41:50all day
41:51and I'd get on the motorcycle
41:52and then go try to be
41:53in class in time,
41:54try to beat rush hour
41:55and be in downtown LA
41:56at USC,
41:57be in class at 6,
41:586.30.
41:59And then you're,
41:59you're wrapping at 10
42:01and then you got to get home
42:03at like 11 PM.
42:04And that's your day.
42:05You're done at 11
42:06and you started as early as 6
42:07and you sell your kids
42:09for the first time.
42:10Usually they're in bed already.
42:12Or if they did stay up,
42:13when you open the door
42:14and you're just tired
42:16and then the kids are like,
42:18daddy,
42:18and they just come
42:19and give you a big hug.
42:20How is that amount of battery
42:21that just,
42:22it's like an automatic recharge,
42:23you know?
42:24That's why you're doing it.
42:25That's why you're out there
42:26battling whatever
42:27proverbial dragon of life,
42:29you know?
42:29And then you come back
42:30and you got your princess
42:31at home with your little kids.
42:33I have another question for you.
42:36In this day and age,
42:38I feel like a lot of people,
42:39my age,
42:40a lot of women specifically,
42:41a lot of girlfriends of mine,
42:43we, you know,
42:43we grew up with the idea
42:44of being like,
42:44oh, I want to be a mom,
42:45I want a family.
42:46Like, that's so exciting.
42:48And now it's almost
42:49slowly becoming
42:51less accessible.
42:53What do you,
42:54just as a young dad
42:57and who's really making
42:59a name for himself
42:59in this industry,
43:00like,
43:01how would you recommend,
43:02what words of advice
43:04would you give to us,
43:05women, men?
43:06Like,
43:07I think it's,
43:08it's extremely
43:09putting yourself
43:10with finding the communities
43:12where you have
43:13the like-minded people.
43:14I think how I can tackle this,
43:15this question is,
43:16what advice I would give
43:17my own daughter
43:18if she was having struggles
43:19and like trying to find
43:20some place
43:21and like needed to get out
43:22of whatever circle
43:22she was in
43:23where she felt like
43:24it wasn't the right place
43:25to be
43:25and she wanted to be
43:26in another realm
43:27but you don't quite have
43:28access to it yet.
43:29Right.
43:29And I feel like that's
43:30essentially what I did.
43:31It's finding your magic lamp.
43:32Like,
43:33what's your magic lamp?
43:34And there's a lot of people
43:35that I can reference
43:36and see
43:37because I actually did
43:38put myself
43:38in an MBA program
43:39where you have
43:41ambitious people
43:42who are disciplined,
43:43who are smart
43:43and extremely capable
43:44and ambitious.
43:45I feel like that passion
43:46in life.
43:47God,
43:48that passion.
43:48You think,
43:49I grew up with like
43:50that Latin fuego.
43:51Like,
43:51my mom,
43:52I get it from my mom.
43:53Like,
43:53she did the impossible.
43:55She came from a little
43:56Pueblito town
43:58in the middle of the Andes
43:58where they would literally
43:59take showers in a waterfall.
44:01Like,
44:01that's how remote it was.
44:02And her dream was
44:03to come to America
44:03and have a better life
44:04for her and her family.
44:06When you say that
44:07in the Andes
44:08where it's so remote
44:10that people don't,
44:10like,
44:11they speak Quechuan.
44:11They don't even speak Spanish.
44:12They speak like this little
44:13native tongue
44:13in the middle of nowhere.
44:14They laugh at you.
44:15Like,
44:16it's impossible.
44:17Stop dreaming.
44:17Get your head out of the clouds.
44:18It's almost like
44:19the start of a Disney movie.
44:20You know?
44:20Yeah.
44:20No, actually.
44:21It's like,
44:22it's too big.
44:22It's too ambitious.
44:23Bring it down to reality.
44:24And she was like,
44:25no,
44:26I'm going to chase this.
44:28And that kind of
44:29taking on
44:30that insurmountable challenge,
44:31like,
44:32you know,
44:32something that has been dubbed
44:33impossible
44:34by everyone around you.
44:35You're in the wrong circle.
44:37The people that say,
44:38no,
44:38it's impossible.
44:39Okay,
44:39so that's their reality.
44:40You need to find the people
44:41where it's not.
44:42That's what she did.
44:43She put herself
44:43in a different scenario
44:44in a different circumstance
44:45where people actually say,
44:47you know what?
44:48Chase it.
44:48It is possible.
44:50And that's where I would put
44:51my own daughter.
44:52I would tell her,
44:53it's like,
44:53be in those circles
44:54where people don't,
44:55the first thing,
44:55their gut near jerk reaction
44:56isn't a no.
44:57It's a yes.
44:58And I saw in my own eyes,
45:00like the,
45:01when they pierce in like the,
45:02it's called the Socratic method.
45:03Like whenever you do higher education,
45:05where they fill you
45:06in the stadium seating,
45:07it's almost like a theater.
45:08Like when you go visit Greece,
45:09you'll literally see
45:10it's a replication of it.
45:11And you'll see,
45:12and you'll look around
45:13in the audience
45:13and there's fellow people
45:15who are just as ambitious as you,
45:17who are passionate
45:17and are chasing something big.
45:19What do you do
45:20with like-minded people?
45:21They procreate,
45:22you know?
45:22It's like there's friends of mine
45:23that got,
45:24that hooked up
45:25and like,
45:25you know,
45:25got their significant others
45:26in class
45:27because they were both
45:28chasing something big.
45:29A couple of marriages,
45:30I think happened out of it.
45:31So I would tell my own daughter,
45:33I was like,
45:33go to an MBA program,
45:34go into higher ed.
45:34Like something like,
45:35go find the places
45:36that will do the weeding out
45:38for you.
45:39Right.
45:39It's like a university
45:40takes applications
45:41and weeds out
45:42through all these different people,
45:43the best of the best.
45:44They did the work for you.
45:45Right.
45:46Literally.
45:47I know it's kind of messed up.
45:49No, it's honestly
45:50a pretty good method though.
45:52They did the work for you.
45:53And then if you get
45:54into that program,
45:55you have the best of the best
45:56and the cream of the crop
45:57in the room with you
45:57of like-minded people.
46:00I think going back
46:01to like my little,
46:02that little girl
46:03whom my mom,
46:04it's like,
46:06talking to my mom
46:06is phenomenal
46:07because like,
46:08when I feel like anything,
46:09even when COVID happened,
46:10I felt like everything,
46:11my world crumbled.
46:12Right.
46:12Who do you call?
46:13I call the woman in my life
46:14that did the impossible.
46:16Yeah.
46:17And she told me,
46:18it is,
46:18you just got to chase it
46:19with like reckless abandon.
46:21And that's what I did.
46:22And good things happen.
46:24You have a really good mom.
46:26Yeah.
46:27I love my mom.
46:27She's great.
46:28She's so great.
46:29Yeah.
46:29Yeah.
46:29Really inspiring.
46:31Have you seen the quote?
46:34I've seen it on Instagram
46:35or something.
46:35It's,
46:36some people will post it
46:38on their story,
46:38but it's like,
46:39the millionaire
46:40won't make fun of you
46:42for starting a business
46:42or like the influencer
46:43or the content creator
46:44won't make fun of you
46:45for making like a dumb video.
46:47Yeah.
46:47The,
46:47so it's just people
46:49who aren't thinking that way
46:50are the ones who are like,
46:51what are you doing?
46:52Why are you posting so much?
46:53But the content creator
46:54with 10 million followers
46:55is like,
46:55yeah, girl,
46:56like,
46:56I'm the worst person
46:59to come to
46:59when people want to try
47:00and like bring their kids
47:01to reality.
47:02They're like,
47:02they want to be an influencer,
47:03YouTuber,
47:03like Dr. Richard.
47:04I'm the one
47:05who puts gasoline
47:05on the fire.
47:07I'm like,
47:07go for it.
47:08I bet you do.
47:09But here's some tools
47:10that can help you.
47:11You know what I mean?
47:11Listen,
47:12here,
47:12yeah,
47:12come into my office.
47:14Don't ever,
47:14don't ever tell me
47:15not to chase a dream
47:16because that's exactly
47:17what I did.
47:17You just need to have
47:18a bigger toolkit
47:19if you're chasing that
47:20because you're,
47:22you're charting
47:22into a path
47:23that's unknown.
47:24And boy,
47:25if you don't have any,
47:26like business acumen
47:27or like a foundation
47:28to come off of,
47:29yeah,
47:29it's going to fail.
47:29The failure rate
47:30for MBAs starting businesses
47:32is 90%.
47:32Imagine how much it is
47:34for someone
47:34with zero business background.
47:35I know,
47:36that's what I'm saying.
47:36It's like,
47:36there's realities
47:38that come into play.
47:39But I'm not,
47:40I'll never squash
47:40somebody's dream.
47:41Never.
47:42Because it's the thing
47:43that lights,
47:43it gives that light
47:44in their eye.
47:45Why would I put that out?
47:46Of course not.
47:47If all I want to do
47:48is actually add stuff to it.
47:50I want to be like,
47:50here's the tools you need
47:51to make it bigger.
47:53Go for it.
47:54You're like everybody's bestie.
47:56We love that.
47:57Oh, Richard,
47:58it has been so amazing
48:00chatting with you.
48:01This has been
48:01such a long time.
48:03We've needed to do this.
48:05I know.
48:05All right, everyone.
48:06Thank you so much
48:06for tuning in.
48:08We can't wait
48:08to see your next show.
48:09I know.
48:10It's crazy.
48:11But in a good way.
48:12In a good way.
48:13Okay, so here on Real Talk,
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48:15where we'd love you
48:17to take a selfie
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