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00:00Ventress, take two.
00:03Action.
00:04Hey everyone, I'm Sarah Malisky and welcome to Real Talk, where we get hot, spicy, and to the drama.
00:10Richard and Jessica, okay, I have been dying to interact with you as a couple.
00:31You guys are my goals in life.
00:34Oh, thank you.
00:35I think so many of us just look at you guys and we're like, I want a family like this.
00:39And it's Valentine's Day, so I'm just so excited to talk about love and just get to know your relationship, how you guys met and everything.
00:47And especially with, you know, we work at Real Short and so many amazing series.
00:51They're all pretty love-focused, so I'd love to focus on a real couple instead of a make-believe couple now.
00:59What's that like, right?
01:00Tell me what's it like to not be acting in love.
01:03What's it like to be just in this beautiful relationship?
01:07Well, you can take that, yeah.
01:09You can lean on that one.
01:10Um, I think it's something that, like, it started as a whirlwind and I feel like we just keep it up to make sure it stays that way.
01:19Um, we've been married, we're coming up on a decade?
01:23Yeah.
01:24Yeah, 10 years in December, so.
01:27She's like the Curious Case of Benjamin, but she ages backwards.
01:30I was gonna say, wait, what, what is this, this, this, this, whoa, wow, they're not here.
01:36The magic spell doesn't end well.
01:38Not at all.
01:39Okay, so, well, just, let's start from the beginning.
01:41Where did you guys meet?
01:42Okay, so that's, like, a little complicated.
01:46Oh, I'd love to hear that.
01:49Okay, okay.
01:50So, I was working at Disney World at the time and you were, where were you?
01:57I was in LA and then, so, what's funny is that it was a very close friend of mine, um, I did a couple of shows with him in the past and so, his wife knew that I was, you know, dating around and stuff like that.
02:08And she would always roll the prize and make fun of, like, you know, like, ah, like, I know the perfect girl for you.
02:13And she, she set us up.
02:15It was actually your distant cousin, like, first cousin or something?
02:18Yeah, so distant, I had no idea.
02:20Yeah, I had no idea what she was.
02:21But when she set me up, she was just like, I got the perfect girl for you.
02:26Stop chasing these, like, you know, flashy ones.
02:27Yeah.
02:28All right, blind dates.
02:29I'm sure you've been on them.
02:30They're horrible.
02:31No.
02:32Exactly, you're like, no.
02:32I've never.
02:33You've never been on a blind date?
02:35No, and that's why even you guys just talking about being set up is almost so foreign to me.
02:41Yeah.
02:41Because that's not how you date anymore.
02:43It's almost old-fashioned.
02:44It is, yeah.
02:44You know how Netflix has those things where they do, like, you know, love at first sight or, like, blind, love is blind or whatever?
02:49Where they actually make you interact with your personality first before you actually meet them?
02:53We kind of, oddly enough, had our own version of that.
02:56Yeah.
02:56Because she was in Orlando.
02:57We were on opposite coast.
02:58We were on opposite coast.
02:59She was in Orlando working as a princess and then...
03:02What princess?
03:04Um, so, Princess Aurora and Ariel were my two best friends over there.
03:11You had the tail.
03:13Oh, my gosh.
03:14Oh, my gosh.
03:14This is a whole other segment.
03:16I know.
03:17It was so much fun.
03:18It was so much.
03:18I mean, you get paid to make someone's day.
03:21I mean, who doesn't love that?
03:22And you just automatically have this aura that is princess person.
03:26Oh, you're nice.
03:27You're nice.
03:27Like, beautiful cloud fairy.
03:29No.
03:30Don't ever brag about it, but, like, I'll do it for her.
03:32Sure.
03:33It was so phenomenal and great with the kids that they actually chose her to be the one that did the Make-A-Wish interactions.
03:39So...
03:39Sometimes.
03:40Disney World actually has their own Make-A-Wish hotel specifically for them whenever their wish is to meet the princesses and go to Disney World.
03:46And then Jessica would, like, you know, be the princess for that interaction.
03:49And it was phenomenal.
03:50You'll have women.
03:51The mothers, of course, off camera just crying the whole time because their little babies are interacting with a princess.
03:56Oh, my gosh.
03:57I mean, I believe it.
03:58Yeah, I remember one time there was this little boy who came in.
04:05And if I get emotional, please stop me.
04:07Oh, no.
04:07But this little boy came in to see Aurora.
04:11And we were talking about, like, fighting dragons and all that stuff.
04:14And the mom just started crying.
04:16And she was like, yeah, he's been fighting, like, these dragons all the time.
04:19Yeah.
04:19And he actually, like, was able to overcome it.
04:23And, like, so that was just, like, a really, like, memorable moment for me.
04:27Because you can see, like, in real time how you affect people and how, like, I mean, maybe my interaction helped them.
04:37But, like, it helped me, too.
04:38I thought it was just such a beautiful experience to have had.
04:42And I'm just so grateful.
04:44I'm so, so grateful that I got to have it.
04:46Oh, my gosh.
04:47I mean, what a beautiful gift for both of you.
04:50Yeah.
04:51And that really just tracks with you.
04:54You are just a fairy princess.
04:55You're a nice lady.
04:56Like, so beautiful human.
04:57No.
04:59Oh, my gosh.
05:00Well, okay, so.
05:01To build on that, like, the.
05:02So we were separate on separate coasts.
05:04And oddly enough, I know we talked about it a little bit before.
05:06Wait, so were you texting?
05:08We were texting.
05:08We were on Facebook.
05:09We were just messaging each other.
05:10Okay, so hold on.
05:11So you got her number on Facebook.
05:14Yeah.
05:14Because back then, Facebook was the thing.
05:16Weird.
05:16Yeah.
05:16And I was like, hey.
05:18We were aging ourselves.
05:19We were aging ourselves.
05:20I was sliding it up to the ass.
05:21I need every detail.
05:22I was like, hey, Michelle.
05:24Her name's Michelle.
05:24And I was like, Michelle, give me your number.
05:26Yeah.
05:27Were you like, who are you?
05:28Yeah, who are you?
05:29Were you like, are you a fan?
05:32Yeah, it was like so bizarre.
05:35And then he was.
05:36The stalker.
05:38Just kidding.
05:39And then, like, you were filming.
05:40I was filming the Star Wars commercial.
05:42Yeah.
05:42Oh, at all.
05:44Full circle.
05:44I know.
05:45Okay.
05:45So he was, like, on a Kid History set filming.
05:50And he was dressed as a.
05:51Oh, it was Chewbacca.
05:52Yeah, Chewbacca.
05:53So you're both these, like, crazy kids.
05:55So he's sending me this, like, costumed up.
05:59We were face-stabbing each other.
06:00And I'm literally walking around the Both Sidesley Cantina bar set as Chewbacca.
06:05And she's.
06:06Aurora.
06:07We need.
06:08We need.
06:09So I should have been, like, Bella instead.
06:11Like, I felt.
06:12That would attract better.
06:12Exactly.
06:13That would attract better.
06:14Yeah.
06:14That would have been on, like, IP there.
06:16Oh, my gosh.
06:17We have to have some show of Chewbacca meets Aurora.
06:20Meet Aurora.
06:21Exactly.
06:21That's a great vertical.
06:22Yeah.
06:23Yeah.
06:23So cool.
06:23Someone needs to write that one.
06:25That's a great idea.
06:26Yeah, yeah.
06:26Okay.
06:27So, again, I just.
06:28I need all the juicy details on this.
06:30So you got her info.
06:32You guys start casually talking.
06:33You realize he's not a creepy weirdo because someone.
06:36Your first cousin hooked it up.
06:38Yeah.
06:38Okay.
06:39And then you're like, okay, okay.
06:40So you're texting.
06:41It's going well.
06:42It's cute.
06:43He's not weird.
06:44And then you start FaceTiming.
06:46Yeah.
06:47We didn't even FaceTime.
06:48Oh.
06:49No, yeah.
06:49We just messaged.
06:50And then, like, a month went by.
06:54And we finally did, like, our first, like, meetup.
06:57Oh.
06:57And we did our first date.
06:59What was the first meetup?
07:00You took me to a fancy dinner.
07:02Yeah.
07:03Where?
07:03L.A.
07:03Is this L.A. or Florida?
07:05Where was it?
07:06It was actually up in Utah.
07:07Because her family, they have a place in Park City.
07:09Oh, yeah.
07:10It's all over the map.
07:11Yeah.
07:11Where are we?
07:12Yeah.
07:12Are we.
07:13That's why it's complicated.
07:14Yeah.
07:15We just decided to go everywhere.
07:17Yeah.
07:17We met up in Park City.
07:18Yep.
07:19And then you had a movie.
07:23Yeah.
07:23He's all about storytelling.
07:24He's all about movies.
07:26It was a movie called Intouchables.
07:29Intouchables, yeah.
07:29And it's about a man who pen pals this woman.
07:34Stop.
07:35Did you write it?
07:36No.
07:36No.
07:36It's a famous French film.
07:38Oh, yeah.
07:39I was like, all right.
07:41I know.
07:41It's really scary.
07:41It's almost like he wrote it.
07:42I'm one of those guys.
07:43But I made fun of the fact that we were pen pals for so long.
07:47And then he finally meets his love interest at the end of the movie.
07:51And then they fall in love, obviously.
07:52So I was like, it's kind of like our story, right?
07:54Yeah.
07:54And we ended up going through like.
07:55Very suave.
07:56Very suave.
07:56Great dinner.
07:57Obviously, the chatter and everything is great.
07:59The personality is flaked and stuff.
08:00And then we watched that movie at night.
08:02Oh.
08:02Yeah.
08:03Oh, and then you took me on your motorcycle afterwards for ice cream.
08:07Oh.
08:08I've heard the motorcycle is like a third party in this relationship.
08:12Oh, my gosh.
08:12He is.
08:13Him and his motorcycle.
08:14I'm surprised I made it into that love triangle.
08:17I know.
08:18It's okay.
08:19The date nights were phenomenal.
08:21It was great.
08:21Because like we would literally.
08:23Because it was your first time, obviously, like, you know, being on a motorcycle one.
08:25But then I was like, we can eat dinner here.
08:29We can go get dessert.
08:30Here.
08:30And then we can go get after.
08:31Like, you know, we would literally almost like a treasure map.
08:34Yeah.
08:34We still do that.
08:35That's like our favorite thing.
08:37We like, we don't eat at one place.
08:39We eat at several places.
08:41Oh.
08:41Like appetizers here.
08:43Yep.
08:43Dinner there.
08:44Like motorcycles.
08:45It's kind of a bit of that.
08:46I don't know how we're at 300 pounds.
08:47It's like everything is just food related.
08:49We're like, we got to try this.
08:50We got to try that.
08:50But on a motorcycle, you can do that.
08:52Especially in LA.
08:53When we moved here and we actually started attacking, like, you know, all of LA's eat spots.
08:58Like, oh my God, there's so many.
08:59But you can do it.
09:00Like, you start up in the valley.
09:01Then you can drop down into the Santa Monica.
09:03Like, go down to Venice.
09:04And then pop into, like, WeHo.
09:06And you can do that on a bike in just a matter of, like, 10 or 15 minutes.
09:09And it's fun traveling.
09:10It is so much fun.
09:10And then, like, we're in the car today for an hour and a half.
09:12Oh, that's miserable.
09:13That's miserable.
09:13Yeah.
09:14I'm the one who zips right by you and says, bye.
09:16And you're like, yeah, do this.
09:17Do this.
09:18So, you guys probably, what, kept texting.
09:21Yeah.
09:21It was great.
09:21Yeah.
09:22And then what, how did it blossom into a real relationship?
09:26I mean, we just kept visiting each other.
09:28You waited in line to meet me.
09:30I think it was a crazy story.
09:31So, this is it.
09:32So, I grew up, actually, just four bros.
09:35I had no sisters.
09:36So, this whole princessing stuff was, like, completely new to me.
09:39And so, I was like, you know, we were pretty serious now.
09:41So, I was like, you know what?
09:41I'm going to surprise her.
09:42So, I bought a ticket and I flew to Orlando.
09:44And I was like, I'm going to go meet her when she's princessing.
09:48I did not know that people wait three hours to meet me.
09:52And I'm pretty big, you know?
09:54Sure.
09:54There's, like, me in line alone.
09:57And then all these little girls and their dads.
09:58And the dads are like, so, what's up?
10:00Why are you here?
10:01What?
10:02Is this guy's, like, a sketchy man?
10:04I swear, I'm just not creepy.
10:06They're like, he's at Disney alone.
10:07Someone call the cops.
10:09I know the princess.
10:10I remember there was a boy in line.
10:12And he was like, I don't want to meet the princesses.
10:14And you're like, it's the coolest thing.
10:16He was trying to be too cool for school.
10:18It was funny.
10:19So, I gassed him up.
10:20And, like, the parents were, like, laughing.
10:21Yeah.
10:21Thank you for that.
10:22You know, because he was trying to be like, I want to meet him.
10:24Whatever.
10:24Because his sister was waiting in line.
10:25Right.
10:26And then he meets Jessica.
10:27And he's like.
10:28He's like.
10:29Literally.
10:30They're like deer in headlights.
10:31For sure.
10:31Because, like, to them, they're meeting, like, Brad Pitt or something.
10:35Like, you know, to them, it's, like, this huge thing, personality that they've
10:38interacted with millions of times of watching these princesses as kids.
10:41I mean, I even share the story with you.
10:43Like, the animated movies and stuff are very impactful.
10:46Oh, yeah.
10:46If you, like, you know, you re-watch them.
10:48You watch them.
10:48They mean something.
10:49And then all of a sudden you get a meet one.
10:51Crazy.
10:52And especially as a kid.
10:53As a kid, yeah.
10:54Oh.
10:55So, when you got up to the front of the line, did you see him in the line at all?
11:00Or were you genuinely, were you, like, yeah, I didn't see him because you can't really
11:05see the line.
11:06Okay.
11:07I mean, not to get too technical.
11:08You can't really see the line.
11:09Like, they just come in in, like, little groups.
11:11Yeah, yeah.
11:11And so he came in as a group and totally.
11:13She was like, what?
11:14Yeah, blew me away.
11:16I was so shocked.
11:17Did you come out of character?
11:20I did stumble a bit, to be honest.
11:22Yeah.
11:23But you, I was surprised.
11:25I know.
11:25I'm pretty swat.
11:27Well, of course you are.
11:28He actually made me, like, speechless.
11:30It was so funny because there's certain kids, when you meet them, they're either really talkative
11:34with you or they're really talkative in line.
11:37And then when they meet you, they just, like, they're just like, oh, my gosh.
11:40Yeah, exactly.
11:40They freeze.
11:40And you, like, Richard's a talker.
11:43And I, yeah, nothing.
11:46And he's like, you have beautiful eyes.
11:49I was taking it all in.
11:50Like, let me defend myself.
11:53But I swear, I swear I was speechless.
11:55I was just like, whoa.
11:57Because when she's all dressed up as Aurora, I swear to you, it literally looked like she
12:02walked out of the pages of the fairy tales.
12:04And, like, I saw her walking around and I was just like, oh, my God, you are Aurora.
12:08So when did you guys get to the point of where you realized, like, oh, I'm in love with
12:12this person?
12:13Like, how did you have that, that feeling?
12:17How did you know it was real?
12:18Because I feel like sometimes it's hard to tell.
12:21Yeah.
12:21How did you know?
12:22How did you know?
12:23How did you know?
12:24Yeah.
12:25So I feel like, I feel like it doesn't just come at once.
12:28It's always like this progression as time goes on.
12:31He's very suave, you know, did all the things.
12:35Like, he loves making, like, movie moments.
12:38Oh, my gosh.
12:38And so he, like, kind of leads his life that way.
12:40And so being with him was just, like, movie moment after movie moment.
12:45Like, we went on, like, a motorcycle ride in New York.
12:48Like, we stayed up until the sun came up.
12:51He came to visit me, you know, at work.
12:54And there's just, like, so many, like, magical moments along the way.
12:58Um, and, like, we were coming home from, like, we were in New York.
13:03And we were, we just saw a play, I think.
13:06Yeah.
13:07And we were just walking.
13:10It was, like, 2 a.m.
13:11And I don't know.
13:13I just looked at him.
13:15And I was, like, oh, this, it just, like, settled in my heart.
13:18I'm, like, this is what love is.
13:19Like, I didn't know that this is, like, I have felt love before.
13:25But I didn't know I could love this deeply, if that makes any sense.
13:29And, like, that's when it really hit me, like, oh, I am in love with this man.
13:32And not just because he makes everything, like, a movie.
13:37But it's because he puts in the effort to make things magical, to make things wonderful.
13:42For you.
13:43For me, yeah.
13:43And that shows, like, I feel like people think that, like, magic and movie moments, like, come out of thin air.
13:50And, like, I'm sure Real Shorts knows all about this.
13:52It takes a lot of effort.
13:54Oh, yeah.
13:55Yeah, there's a lot of things that it takes to make these magical moments.
14:01And he was willing to put in that effort for me.
14:04And I'm willing to put it back for him.
14:06And I can just see that I knew that if we just, like, continued this way, our life would always be magical.
14:13Because we would make sure that we took care of each other, that we loved each other, and that we put each other first.
14:19And so, yeah, that was it for me.
14:22I don't know.
14:22Well, I, Richard, one second.
14:26So, for you, can you give a word of advice to the girlies watching this?
14:32Because I feel like it's, unfortunately, nowadays, a lot of guys don't put that much effort in.
14:39It's like they don't even want to, like, pay for your dinner or even, like, text you back.
14:45Or, like, you know, it's, like, so hard to know if a guy likes you even.
14:50And what would you say?
14:52I don't know if you had boyfriends before, Richard, but just, like, how did you realize, like, oh, I can have a standard for myself and I can have a love like this.
15:04Yeah.
15:04What would you say for girls who are, like, yearning for something like that?
15:07I feel like in the past, I would date people who, you were never really sure where you stood.
15:13You know what I mean?
15:14Like, I feel like that's relatable to everyone.
15:17Like, you never know where you stand, the games, like, things like that.
15:20When I met him, like, after, like, our first date, like, two weeks later, you wanted me to meet your parents.
15:27Like, you were, like.
15:30I can explain that.
15:33No, no, honestly, I love it, though.
15:35Yeah, and, like, I just knew, like, he is sure about me.
15:41Now I can, like, think about how I feel about him.
15:45And, like, I hadn't been in that position before.
15:47And so, like, I think my advice would be don't waste your time with people who aren't sure about you.
15:53Like, and have the confidence to understand, like, what's important to me.
15:58Like, I feel like so many times because I was insecure about where our relationship is, I would try so hard for them.
16:05And I would constantly think about, like, what did they need?
16:07What did they need?
16:08And I forgot.
16:09What do I need?
16:10And he gave me what, because he was confident and assured in me, I was able to be like, okay.
16:17What do I want?
16:19And who do, like, what things do I like about him?
16:22What would be, like, a good life, like, lifelong partner for me?
16:27And so, yeah, that assurity, just being confident in yourself to not settle for something that doesn't feel stable.
16:38So, Richard, what about you?
16:39When did you know that you were in love?
16:42I always made the joke that I knew the moment I first saw her.
16:45Yeah.
16:45And I really do believe in the things of, like, you know, there's high powers and, like, fate involved and stuff like that.
16:51And for someone who's so free will and will, like, charge at life and do everything, you know, I do actually feel like there's a bigger purpose and stuff.
16:57And I always chase that.
16:58So, maybe that's another added element to the fact that I can chase things with reckless abandon.
17:02But to, I guess, expound a little bit more on the New York City thing.
17:06Yeah.
17:07It did take some orchestrations.
17:09Like, you know, when I do chase these create movie moments for my life, but now I was creating movie moments for, like, the love of my life.
17:18And so, I called up ahead.
17:19And so, when I did my undergrad at NYU, your first year is mandatory NYU housing.
17:23So, they put me down in Chinatown, like, the middle of nowhere.
17:26And I'm always eating.
17:28And so, I was like, they didn't even have food service at this once.
17:30So, I had to get up in the morning and I'm like, ugh, get on the subway.
17:32I was miserable.
17:33I would go to another dorm that had food service, get to the cafeteria and finally eat.
17:37And I was just like, dude, this sucks.
17:38And then I realized, I have a chance of a lifetime here.
17:41It's once in a lifetime.
17:42I live in New York City.
17:43I get to call it home.
17:44And I felt like a rat.
17:45I was underground all the time.
17:46I was always in the subway.
17:47I was waiting.
17:48It was cold.
17:48It was, like, miserable.
17:50And so, me and my buddies got together and we're like, you know what?
17:52Let's change this.
17:52And so, we got on Craigslist and bought these dinky, crappy motorcycles.
17:57And then my entire life switched.
17:58And in New York.
17:59In New York City, exactly.
18:00And I learned how to ride a bike dodging cabs.
18:03Did you ever get hit?
18:04No.
18:05I actually laid it out once.
18:06It was 3 a.m.
18:07in the middle of nowhere, though.
18:08And it was just, I did the rookie move.
18:10Skid?
18:10Yeah, that's it.
18:11I did a break on gravel.
18:12And it might as well have been ice right from under me.
18:15That's a whole side story.
18:16Yeah, we don't talk about that much.
18:17Yeah.
18:18But anyways, I always make the joke.
18:20She hates it.
18:21She always rolls eyes at me.
18:22But, like, all of, like, history and time is, like, you know, before Christ, after Christ.
18:27Like, my life is before bike, after bike.
18:30That's my line of demarcation.
18:32Oh, Jess.
18:33That's how much my life changed.
18:34Oh, dear.
18:35Oh, dear.
18:36Okay, that's how much my life changed on a motorcycle.
18:38So, like, imagine tearing up Manhattan, of all places, on a motorcycle.
18:41And then Friday nights, weekends, you name it.
18:43Like, you're zipping across Brooklyn Bridge to get pizza.
18:45Then you're going into Times Square.
18:47Then you're, like, you know, you're going on the West Side Highway, like, upper west side.
18:51You can drop down into Canal.
18:52Like, you can go to Chinatown and get dumplings.
18:54I'm telling you, like, it was everything opened up because you're on a motorcycle.
18:56Right.
18:57And she would hear all these crazy stories that I would tell about when I did this.
19:00And I was, like, I want to recreate that, but with the love of my life.
19:03And so, I called up ahead of time when we were flying, and I'm, like, my buddies still live there.
19:07And I'm, like, can I borrow your bike?
19:08And he's, like, of course.
19:09So, he left me with two helmets and two, like, you know, motorcycle gloves.
19:12And we tore up Manhattan.
19:14Were you scared?
19:16I mean, I'm a secret thrill seeker.
19:18Yeah.
19:19Oh!
19:19She's the one who leans in and is, like, don't pass.
19:21Oh, yeah, yeah.
19:22Oh, my God, don't put it, Sasa.
19:23You wouldn't think.
19:24It's, like, let's go.
19:25I know.
19:25My dad had bikes growing up.
19:27And so, he would always, like, do wheelies on it and, like, whip it on.
19:31So, that was, like, yeah.
19:34I loved it.
19:35I thought it was fun.
19:36It really was, like, a cinematic moment because I would recreate and tell her all these stories that I had
19:41from doing this back when I was an undergrad.
19:43Yeah.
19:44He's always at this taco place right here and then, like, Laschino.
19:47Yeah, we went out.
19:48And then I went to go get pizza.
19:49And, like, the owner still remembered me because I was, like, the first time I went there with
19:53a group of friends and the owner, he's really cool.
19:55He would come over to the tables and be, like, so, how was it?
19:57Yeah.
19:57And I didn't skip a beat.
19:58I was, like, dude, this is so good.
20:00There's, like, Papa John's Pizza Hut, but you're, like, a close third.
20:03And he just goes, who the hell is this guy?
20:05Yeah, of course, Richard.
20:06I know, he lost it.
20:07He thought it was funny.
20:07But I was, like, then we got close after that.
20:09But then, of course, I brought Jessica and I introduced it.
20:12And then all of a sudden, we're done with that.
20:14Give him a big hug.
20:14And then I just took off again.
20:15There's a diner.
20:17I remember the diner.
20:18What diner?
20:18What's the banana walnut?
20:20That's it?
20:20Yeah, the banana walnut pancakes.
20:22So my buddies and I, we're still four college kids, you know?
20:24Sure.
20:24And I complain, like, at NYU of all places.
20:26Yeah.
20:27So there's the big fancy places in New York City where you could drop, like, thousands of
20:30dollars.
20:30We didn't go there.
20:31We went to these just really grimy, like, in the middle of nowhere diners.
20:34Which are the best.
20:35Which are the best, exactly.
20:36And so there's one in Greenwich Village where you could go, and me and my buddies were regulars.
20:40They knew that when the motorcycles came there.
20:43The boys.
20:43That's the boys, the boys.
20:44That's the boys.
20:45That's the boys.
20:45That's the boys.
20:46We'd sit down.
20:47It's, like, 2 a.m., 3 a.m.
20:49And we would order these banana walnut pancakes, like, the whole platter.
20:52And when I sat down, and they didn't skip a beat, they're like, Richard?
20:57Who's this?
20:57And so I was like, this is Jessica.
20:59And they're like, you want the same?
21:00The same.
21:01They remembered.
21:02Yeah, they knew.
21:03I was like, talk about, like, movie mode.
21:05Like, that was so cool for me.
21:07And then it was, like, after we were done at the diner, we were checking out.
21:10I was like, oh, my God.
21:11It was, like, what, 6 a.m., 7?
21:12The sun was coming up.
21:14So I had to go make my way back to a place we were staying at in the Upper West Side.
21:18And so we're going up Broadway.
21:19And when you drive up, when you're going north, the horizon, the sun comes up right at home.
21:25It was, like, we're driving back, and the sun is rising as we're coming back home.
21:30And it's, like, I want to have these movie moments for the rest of my life with this woman.
21:34Like, those are those kind of things that hit close.
21:36And I was just, like, that's cool.
21:38But it did take a lot of effort, Kyle.
21:39Like, I was prepping everything.
21:40I knew how to make that happen.
21:42Oh, yeah.
21:42Behind the scenes.
21:42Behind the scenes.
21:43And to piggyback what she was saying, it's, like, you've got to find someone who is willing to put in all that effort and work for you.
21:49Because that's just normal.
21:51They want to do that for you.
21:53It's not something that's, like, begrudging, like, oh, God, now I've got to do this.
21:56Ball and chain.
21:56I know.
21:57Like, I actually would always get angry when people would.
21:59Because now that we're married, we have, like, married couples and married friends and stuff like that.
22:02And, like, the guys that always talk about ball and chain, I'm just, like, especially in front of their significant others.
22:06I know.
22:07Like, why did you marry her then?
22:10It's sometimes crazy.
22:11Yeah.
22:12But when you're with another couple and you start to see, you know, them being, like, no, babe, like, wah, wah, wah, or, like, they're, like, fighting.
22:18And you're just, like, you look at your partner and you're, like, ooh, hope we don't ever do that.
22:22Yeah.
22:22Like, don't want to ever do that.
22:23And that actually leads me into my next question for you guys is you've been together for so long and you have such a fun, exciting relationship.
22:31How do you guys keep it alive still?
22:35And do you guys still do these big movie moments or how do you, how do you keep, how do you not get bored, kind of?
22:43Because it happens.
22:44Yeah.
22:44I feel like, I mean, we made a commitment, like, way before we had kids where, like, every year we're going to do, like, a big trip.
22:51We love to travel.
22:52We love to do things together.
22:54Like, we're going to do a big trip, just us.
22:56And so, like, every year we've been, like, going to Greece, Scotland, like, doing all these fun things.
23:02And, like, we get to have those, like, movie moments again.
23:05And then I feel like a lot of people really take for granted, like, the mundane every day.
23:13We really make it a point to, like, romanticize our life.
23:16Even if it's just, like, you drinking, like, a coffee in the morning.
23:21Some people just grab a to-go cup and run out the door.
23:23It's, like, you get up early, you sit with, like, your favorite mug, you watch the sunrise, you know, like, stuff like that.
23:29Like, there's just so many easy ways to romanticize your life.
23:32And then there's easy ways to, like, romanticize yourselves as a couple.
23:37And so, like, you know, when Richard comes home, like, he'll orchestrate, like, a really fun movie night and get the kids involved and get the popcorn and make it, like, a themed Star Wars night or a theme, you know.
23:48Like, there's simple ways to make your life magical, like, on a day-to-day basis.
23:53And I feel like we really try to uphold that.
23:57Do you have kind of general tips for people that might be feeling just a little stagnant in their relationship?
24:05Or it's just kind of, like, you know, sometimes you could just, like, it could just be you're talking about work a lot or, like, the kids or something.
24:11Like, how do you guys do steps to be, like, okay, like, now it's, like, our time.
24:16Like, we're going to, like, focus on, like, mom and dad right now.
24:18And, like, what are some tips?
24:21The biggest advice, at least for me, it works for me.
24:24And I tell people, like, maybe it works for you or not.
24:26I always try to look at it like some people fall into the trap of when they get married.
24:30It's almost like the trophy that you finally got.
24:32And then you can put it on a shelf and then focus on other things.
24:34I actually try to almost trick yourself into thinking, like, you're never, you never have possession of the prize.
24:39Nothing's permanent.
24:40Nothing's permanent.
24:40In fact, you almost treat it like you're still dating.
24:43And so you never, even though husband and mom has been married, it's, like, you're still trying to court her.
24:48I'm still trying to be, like, how can I do this on a Friday night that would make her go, ah.
24:51And it's, like, and you have to really think outside the box now because it's been, what, like, nine years now.
24:56Right.
24:57But still, it's, like, that's at least a quick little trick for me is that you always just remind yourself.
25:02It's, like, it's not a trophy that I can put on a shelf.
25:04It's, like, I'm constantly trying to court her and date her.
25:07And then it doesn't matter how many years of marriage we have.
25:09I'm still trying to date her.
25:10That's how I kind of, like, click into that mindset.
25:13I think it's just remembering, like, those beginning feelings that you had.
25:17They don't go away, you know?
25:19So it's, like, tapping into, like, why did I fall in love with this person?
25:23What makes them so special to me?
25:25And now I know him even more.
25:27So, like, I can do way more things that cater, like, I think people think you've run out of stuff to do or talk about.
25:35And I'm, like, no, I know him so much more.
25:38I have so much more that I can give to him and vice versa.
25:42So what's crazy is that, like, we always try to, like, outdo each other on, like, how you can do something to surprise them for their birthday.
25:48She got me the coolest gift ever one year for my birthday.
25:51And I was, like, all right, what's she going to do?
25:52Like, I've seen her do this.
25:54I've seen her do that.
25:54And then she's just, like, I know how much you love motorcycles.
25:57And she just leaned into it.
25:58And she got me this thing in San Diego called Wheelie University.
26:02Oh, yeah.
26:02And they teach you how to do wheelies on bikes.
26:04And so I was, like, this is the coolest thing ever.
26:07And so, like, yeah.
26:07But she just let me go.
26:09I got to go do it.
26:10I hung out with a bunch of other bike, you know, motorcyclists.
26:12And then we all were, like, learning how to do wheelies on this, like, contraption that the guy made and had a patent for.
26:16I don't know.
26:17He would, like, let you, he would crank it and let you do a higher and higher wheelie is the more, you know, confident that you got it.
26:22And, like, the whole day I was on Cloud9.
26:24I was, like, this is freaking cool.
26:24It seems that you guys have such a strong trust between each other and such a strong foundation.
26:30And would you say that that's kind of how you guys make it work is that foundation and keeping it so concrete?
26:38I think it goes back to, like, I've known that he has been sure of me since day one.
26:43There it is, right?
26:43And I never have to worry about it.
26:45I don't worry about it at all.
26:47It doesn't even cross my mind.
26:48In fact, I get excited to meet his co-star.
26:50Like, excited to, like, you know, see all the stuff he did.
26:53I'm so proud.
26:54Like, I'm so proud of him.
26:56Yeah, all the co-stars actually lose it when they're, like, I'm going to meet the princess.
27:00Yeah, like, go on.
27:01Well, I think also for people watching, that's just another lesson with you can find someone who makes you feel that way.
27:09Like, they are out there.
27:11You don't have to feel insecure.
27:13Do they like me?
27:14Like, you shouldn't have to feel that way because when you don't feel that way, it is so much better.
27:19Yeah.
27:20It really is.
27:21It's a big difference.
27:22Yeah.
27:23So, we have a really fun segment.
27:26It's called, How Well Do You Know Each Other?
27:29Yo, here we go.
27:30So, I'm going to ask you a series of questions.
27:33And you guys are going to let me know how well you know each other.
27:36Let's do it.
27:38Let's do it.
27:38Okay, let's start the love segment.
27:43What is Richard's favorite basketball team?
27:47Oh, my gosh.
27:48I hope I get this right.
27:49Oh, no.
27:51Let's sing it.
27:52What did you say?
27:53The Lakers.
27:53Oh, yeah.
27:54The Lakers.
27:55Okay, okay.
27:56Kobe.
27:57What is Jessica's favorite karaoke song?
28:03Once Upon a...
28:04Oh, my God.
28:05I remember the same.
28:06No way.
28:07Oh.
28:07I wouldn't say it's karaoke, but I sing it to my daughter every night for bed, so...
28:14So, that does count.
28:14It's karaoke in my mind.
28:16Where does Richard want to travel to next?
28:19Let's see it.
28:21Oh!
28:22Again?
28:23Yeah.
28:24What did you put?
28:25I put a tarziket.
28:26Oh, an English.
28:27I'm trying to get all seven consonants.
28:29Ah, okay.
28:30What's Jessica's pet peeve?
28:34A big kind.
28:35Oh, my God.
28:36I didn't know.
28:37I didn't know.
28:38It's the same thing.
28:38Yeah.
28:39There was this boy, like, probably 16, 17, and he was sitting at Krispy Kreme, just,
28:46like, burning CDs for, like, a new track that he was doing.
28:49Oh.
28:50And people were just, people were, like, whispering and, like, laughing about it.
28:54Oh.
28:54And, like, I feel like the world's harsh enough already.
28:57For sure.
28:57Why not, like, add joy to it instead of try to take it away?
29:02He saw how upset I was about it, so he, like, went and got his mixtape and bought it and,
29:06like, started talking to him.
29:08And it was, yeah, it was really sweet.
29:10Oh, my gosh.
29:11You guys are not real people.
29:13So the injustice of that.
29:16Yeah, exactly.
29:18What is Richard's go-to comfort food?
29:22Steak and sushi.
29:24Oh, my God.
29:24They are the perfect couple.
29:28What is Jessica's top love language to give?
29:32Three, two, one.
29:33Let's see them.
29:35I broke it down.
29:36What physical touch for Richard, because I know that's his love language.
29:40I think, like, going to, like, the kindness thing or leaving good wherever you go.
29:43I like to do words with absolutely.
29:44She loves it whenever you tell her amazing things.
29:49But I would actually, I took it outside of the relationship, actually, and, like,
29:51you know, like, which one she likes to give.
29:53So when she's extremely thoughtful when she gives people gifts, like her closest friends
29:57and even people, like, you know, acts of service, and then those moments that she shares with
30:00people, but when I get stopped or, like, you know, when people recognize me, she's the
30:05first to know that these 30-second or 60-second interactions can change a lot of stuff and
30:09mean are very impactful.
30:11So she's actually the first one to be, like, you know, you want to take a picture?
30:13And she takes the picture, she takes the camera from them, and she's so good at giving
30:18people this quality of time with that little 30-second increment that she knows, you know,
30:22is very impactful with people.
30:23So I don't know if we got that right or wrong.
30:25I don't really know.
30:27I don't, the question is ambiguous.
30:30Yeah, exactly.
30:32Okay, so you guys obviously touched upon your relationship, how it all got started, and
30:37you have a beautiful family, too.
30:40I think we do.
30:41You do 100% do.
30:42You did pretty good, yeah.
30:43You did really good.
30:45You did really good.
30:45So how do you two create magical moments that include your family?
30:50Oh, I mean, I'm really passionate about creating magical moments for my kids.
30:56I think, like, it just comes to everything.
30:59Like, holidays are a really big deal to me.
31:03Richard was definitely blown away the first time he came to my family's house for holidays.
31:07We really, we get all into it.
31:11And so we do, like, my kids talk about, like, the breakfast, like, we make, like, for Valentine's
31:17Day, we make, like, heart pancakes.
31:18And I give them, like, little cups with strawberry milk.
31:23And, you know, they just, like, they get so excited for it.
31:26We play, like, Valentine bingo.
31:28We do heart-shaped food the whole day.
31:32And we also, like, put little hearts on their door every day leading up to Valentine's Day
31:40where we put what we love about, like, certain things that we love about our kids.
31:45And they get excited to read it every morning.
31:48Oh, my gosh.
31:50You're the best mother ever.
31:52No.
31:53I don't know about that.
31:54But I do.
31:55I love, I love keeping, like, childhood pure for them.
32:01It's, like, we, like, we're the parents and we're, like, giving them a place where they
32:07still believe in magic and they still, like, have so much wonder for the world.
32:12And I think, like, if I can prolong that as long as possible and, like, have them believe
32:17in magic and have them believe in themselves, like, I just feel like that'll help them as
32:22they grow old and, like, life's hard enough.
32:24Like, I want to, I want to preserve their childhood as long as possible.
32:29I'm getting emotional.
32:31Well, it seems like you guys are so aware of those small 30-second moments that impact
32:40a child's life, right?
32:41These little things.
32:41And every little, little thing that you plop down is going to add up for them when they're
32:47older and remember that.
32:48They do.
32:49Like, you remember, we remember our childhood, you know?
32:51Yeah.
32:51Certain things that made you who you are and whatnot.
32:54And that's so beautiful that you put so much effort into that.
32:58That's just really special.
33:00It's really cute, actually.
33:01Whenever the kids, they know that they're going to be, there's going to be a write-up about
33:06them that's going to get posted on their wall every single day until Valentine's Day.
33:09And so they look forward to it so much.
33:11And Jessica puts it on there and they're, like, giddy and jumping and stuff.
33:14And then she reads it to them.
33:15And it's, like, a cool little positive trait about them that, you know, sometimes they
33:19don't even see coming.
33:20Sometimes they're really proud of it.
33:21And it's really, really cool.
33:23They're little confidence builders for the kids and stuff.
33:27Yeah.
33:27I love, like, when they read it and they're, like, I am really funny or I am really smart.
33:33And then we start talking, like, it's almost like a little, like, a note to start a conversation.
33:39It's, like, oh, my gosh.
33:41Do you remember when you said that silly thing?
33:43Like, oh, I just love your humor.
33:44Or, like, what other times have you been really silly?
33:47And, like, they'll just think about it.
33:49And it really, like, establishes, like, who they are.
33:52Right.
33:52It's just, like, small things like that.
33:54Just, like, you don't think that's a big deal writing a note to them.
33:57But, I mean, they talk about it and they remember.
34:02And I feel like it helps them in the world, in school.
34:06Yeah.
34:06To have that confidence.
34:08Do you have any other family traditions that you guys do?
34:11We have too many.
34:13Which one stands out to you?
34:14For me, like, we're talking, like, full, like I said, like, on max.
34:20Like, they, like, took the mob and went all the way.
34:22Like, even for St. Patty's Day.
34:24Like, for us, we would just, like, in my family, you wear a green.
34:27You're like, what are you doing, St. Patty's Day?
34:29But they, she would go all out.
34:31Like, where they go and they bury gold coins outside of the garden.
34:34So, you go and they bury it.
34:36And then when they come back, it's a giant lollipop.
34:39And so, they...
34:40A rainbow lollipop.
34:40Oh, my gosh.
34:41And then they come back.
34:43And, of course, it's perfectly orchestrated.
34:45So, when they go back, they see a clue on the ground.
34:47And they're like, hey, the leprechaun left a clue because there's a leprechaun door.
34:51Right.
34:51Oh, yeah.
34:52We have a little leprechaun door.
34:53A little leprechaun door where the leprechaun will come out and leave these little trivia things that they have to go now on a treasure hunt.
34:59And so, they read this clue.
35:01They think of the answer.
35:02Like, oh, it's over here.
35:03And so, they go run upstairs and they go into, like, the bedroom, find the other clue, find the other clue.
35:07And at the end is a treasure chest.
35:09And you open it and it's just, like, gold coins.
35:12There's, like, candy there.
35:13Well, it seems like you guys keep your kids really active and, like, brain activities and doing cool things and just keeping it going, not just sitting around.
35:23Like, I feel like it's hard nowadays with kids, too.
35:25It's like, I have bad kids.
35:27You know, like, just, like, what do you do with them?
35:29We're not perfect.
35:30Well, no, I mean, you also have to, like…
35:32They're off camera right now on iPads.
35:33I mean, at some point, you have to give the kid the iPads so they can focus and stuff.
35:38But it's such a hard balance because when we were younger, I mean, we didn't have that, right?
35:41We were outside all the time doing activities.
35:44And I feel like even these little things that you do just keep the brain working a little bit.
35:49Yeah.
35:50Oh, that's so beautiful.
35:51So, what does happily ever after mean for you and your family?
35:55I mean, I think it's just preserving your family and, like, it's a little bubble of, like, is it silly to say, like, happiness and love?
36:06Like, a piece of heaven or something just to, like, have this time together.
36:12Like, when you step into the house, I hope that you feel that it's different, that it's, like, calm, peaceful, like, full of love, full of acceptance.
36:20Like, I want my kids, when we're together, to feel like that this is where I feel safe.
36:27This is where I feel comfortable.
36:29This is where I feel loved.
36:30And I hope it…
36:31I hope our efforts…
36:32Like, we were talking about, like, you know, Richard made a ton of effort to make things magical for me.
36:38And I can…
36:40I feel that.
36:41And I hope to make things magical for them.
36:44Mm-hmm.
36:44And I think we're just always orchestrating in order to create this little place where they can look back on their memories and be, like, I just felt so loved.
36:55And I felt like my life was magical.
36:59And that happily ever after doesn't just stop when you get married.
37:04It continues throughout your life.
37:06And that does take effort.
37:08It's not as easy as you think it is, but it's worth the effort.
37:12Did you…
37:14Were both of you raised in this type of culture at home where it was so loving and so focused on that?
37:22Or did you guys kind of feel…
37:25Or did you figure that out on your own, that you wanted to create an environment in your home like that?
37:31Do you want to answer?
37:32She makes fun of me because, like, it was just a bunch of bros.
37:35Like, we didn't have…
37:35You and your brother.
37:36It's different.
37:37It's different.
37:37Yeah.
37:38It's not worth.
37:39Like, worse or better.
37:40I realized pretty quickly, like, where she came from.
37:44She learned it from, like, her…
37:45You said your grandma, right?
37:46My great-grandma, she would…
37:51She was, like, the OG of making magical moments for her family.
37:56She used to fill the backyard with water.
38:01And we would all…
38:02Yeah, like, she would flood it.
38:04And we would all just play back there and splash around.
38:07And she would make these little, like, stone paths.
38:12And we would put, like, our handprints in it and put our name in there so she'd always remember it.
38:17Like, I just have so many, like, amazing memories.
38:20And my great-grandma, my mom saw what my great-grandma was doing and, like, she did it for us.
38:29And then, you know, you always want to, like, do the same or if not better than, like, those before you.
38:36And so, like, I learned from my mother.
38:37And so, yeah, I really try to…
38:42That's how I, like, give love and how I, like, want or how I hope they feel love.
38:52You're really good at making those pure joy moments that you were talking about.
38:54Oh, I mean, I feel it now.
38:56Yeah.
38:57I feel it now.
38:58So you want to get adopted as a failure?
39:00Actually, like, can you guys adopt me?
39:03Do you want a sister?
39:04Yeah, exactly.
39:05Well, Cozy would love a sister.
39:07I'll come hang out.
39:08Yes.
39:09I'll play princess.
39:10I'll play older princess girl.
39:13So I want to play another game with you.
39:15Oh, another game.
39:15Yes, but I think let's bring in the kids.
39:19I'll bring the kids.
39:20Yeah.
39:23Okay, so we have some very special guests today.
39:26Would you mind introducing yourself?
39:28My name's Marley.
39:32What's your name?
39:33What's your name?
39:34Cosette.
39:34Cosette.
39:35Oh, it's so cute.
39:37Oh, my gosh.
39:38I have to say, I absolutely love your dress.
39:40By the way, everybody, this was an accident.
39:43We just matched because we're twins.
39:46Or was it?
39:47It was fate.
39:47It was fate.
39:48It was fate.
39:49Exactly.
39:50Exactly.
39:50So now we're going to play a really fun game called Who is Most Likely To?
39:56So it's either going to be mommy or daddy.
39:58Okay?
39:59Okay.
39:59So question number one.
40:02Who is most likely to fall asleep first?
40:06Daddy.
40:07Daddy.
40:08Daddy.
40:08That was immediate.
40:10That was a little too quick.
40:12I know.
40:13That was too quick.
40:13Who is most likely to take the longest to get ready?
40:20Mommy.
40:20We got three moms and one dad.
40:24She's like girl powers.
40:25She's going to have like a pen pie.
40:26Yeah, yeah, she knows.
40:27Who's cooking would the kids rather eat?
40:32Mommy's or daddy's?
40:34Mommy.
40:34Mommy or daddy's cooking?
40:36That's right.
40:37Dad.
40:37That's right.
40:38Okay.
40:39He makes a good steak.
40:41I know.
40:41I always make steaks.
40:42Who is most likely to lose their phone?
40:47Oh, wait.
40:48Cozy on dad.
40:50She's a mama's girl.
40:51I know.
40:55Who do the kids most likely want to play video games with?
41:00Who plays video games with you?
41:02Oh, Cozy on mommy's team again.
41:07Yes.
41:08That's my girl.
41:09Did you coach her or something?
41:09I know, right?
41:11Who's most likely to take selfies?
41:17Oh, wait.
41:18We got a 50-50.
41:20Mom and dad.
41:21Okay, so mom and dad, who do you guys think?
41:23Mommy.
41:25I think that daddy takes the most selfies, but I take a lot of videos of you guys.
41:30Me.
41:31Okay, last but not least, who is most likely to have a surprise?
41:39Mom.
41:39Yeah, mommy's got the surprises.
41:41Mommy's got that lock down.
41:43I love surprises.
41:45Yay!
41:45Thank you, guys.
41:46Good job, guys.
41:46That was so fun.
41:48Cozy, we'll talk about this later.
41:49No way.
41:51No way.
41:52Okay, so speaking of surprises, I heard you have one for us.
42:00Yeah, do you want to?
42:01No, you got it.
42:02I, we are expecting another little one.
42:07There's another cute little guy coming.
42:09Yeah.
42:10Or girl.
42:11We don't know yet.
42:11But we will when we make our video.
42:14So we actually love to make these, of course, movie moments.
42:17We actually make the, maybe these little gender reveal movies.
42:20And so there's a really cute one with Maverick.
42:21Whenever he found out that she was pregnant with a baby that we didn't know if it was a little sister or a little brother.
42:27And so we filmed this cute little thing of Maverick, like, peeping behind trees and, like, going into the forest and finding a little Easter egg, like, little carriage, right?
42:35Yeah.
42:35And then he opens the Easter egg and pink confetti just falls right now.
42:39Oh, my gosh.
42:41So we're going to do one for this little one, too.
42:43So we got a version of that that we're going to shoot.
42:45They're going to be surprised.
42:46So stay tuned.
42:47And you can see the video.
42:57Bye-bye.
43:27Well, from the studio here at Real Talk, we have a little gift for you.
43:44A little surprise, if you will.
43:46We surprise the surprise king and queen.
43:49So here.
43:52Oh, that's so sweet.
43:54Yes, we love you so much.
43:57That's so cute.
43:58Thank you so much.
43:59That's amazing.
44:00That's so cute.
44:01That gets us probably through two days of diaper changing.
44:04It's like two days.
44:05Does it?
44:05Yeah.
44:06Yeah.
44:07Blowouts and everything.
44:08It's going to be awesome.
44:08Thank you for that.
44:09Thank you so much.
44:10Of course.
44:10Thank you guys so much for being here today.
44:12You are just the light of my personal life now.
44:16And so inspirational in so many ways.
44:18Just personally, your relationship, your family values, your work ethic, so much.
44:23I just feel honored to have even spoken with you for a couple hours.
44:27And we're honored too.
44:28It really just warms my soul, truly.
44:32You're so great.
44:32This was awesome.
44:33So much fun.
44:34Thank you so much for having us.
44:36Yes.
44:36And do you have anything else you want to say to our Real Talk fans?
44:39We got a new series coming.
44:40So definitely stay tuned for that one.
44:42Like I said, it gets really crazy.
44:43There's like the hardest of highs, lowest of lows.
44:45It gets pretty dark on this one.
44:46So you're going to feel the feelies on this one.
44:49All the drama.
44:49All the drama.
44:51And Real Shorts does drama like no other.
44:52So thank you so much for being an amazing community that you are.
44:57I think I want to follow up with that.
44:59Is that like even during the wildfires, I mean, we shared during the podcast that they
45:02reached out to us personally in our DMs and they said, is Maverick and Cozy okay?
45:07Are you guys safe?
45:08And you guys are just the best fans in the world.
45:11And we want to appreciate you guys.
45:12Love you guys so much.
45:13Bye, guys.
45:14Love you.
45:14See you next time.
45:22Bye.
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