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03:41Δεν πρόκειται. Η δεφένση είναι πρόεδρο της νέας και όχι της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης.
03:48Οι νέες ειναι πρέπει να ευθύνουν οι ίδιες προμίσεις.
03:52Αν κάποιος μου λέει ότι δεν είναι μπορεί να βαθμίσουν ένα σημαντικό σημαντικό και να εμφανίσουν στη δεφένση,
03:59αυτό είναι αυτοί, γιατί η ιστορία μας έχει δείξει ότι η Ρευκολία Ρευκολία,
04:04και όχι δεφένση μεταξύ πρόεδρος, ήταν να βαθμίσουν ένας από τα πιο καλύτερος σημαντικό σημαντικό σημαντικό σημαντικό σημαντικό.
04:11Και, επίσης, αντιμετωπίζουν 3.5% για την Ευρωπαϊκή, γιατί είναι ένθο, και οι άνθρωποι ένθαν ποιο.
04:18Πώς είναι πιέντε, γιατί είναι ο δεφένση ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης, Μαρτήν Συρδευνή.
04:21Πρώτα, δεν έχουμε μια σημαντική πάντα για την Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση και την Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση,
04:25γιατί είχατε γερμανία.
04:27Αυτή ήταν το πράγμα πρινά, και ήταν σημαντικό σχετικό σημαντικό σημαντικό.
04:33Αυτή δεν είναι σημαντικό σημαντικό σημαντικό.
04:34Πρέπει να πρέπει να πιστεύουμε πώς να αφασίσουν μόνο.
04:51Επίσης, που δεν πρέπει να αυξήσουν τη δημιουργία, δε φτιάχνει γιλίου αυτού.
04:57Να μπρελώνουμε την συζήτηση, δεν πρέπει να πρέπει να δευτείτες χώρες σε επαλύτερες υποπέρονες.
05:05Ακόμαστε να δεξιώνουμε την Ευρώπη.
05:09Πρέπει να δημιουργότερη να χρησιμοποιήσουν δύσκολο σημώδια σημαντικά μεταλλούς.
05:14Και υποπέρον πρίπου θα κράσει πολύς να ζημιστεί, ότι θέλει να ριτουν το σημαντικό σημαντικό σημαντικό.
05:20Αν εμείς δεν έχουμε τα τέτοια δοσκολογία,
05:24δεν μπορούμε να δευθύνουμε την Ευρώπη και τις διαδικατές της Ευρώπης.
05:29Αν Ρατλήριο, αυτό το πράγμα, το Ριουργο Τέρρας έτσι.
05:32Γιατί, πως να πω από το Brussels.
05:33Τα αρήθεια, η αερφόνη ήταν σκληρία για 30 μέρες
05:37επίσης από αλληλούς δρόεδρος.
05:38Αλληλούς δρόεδρος δρόεδρος δρόεδρος,
05:40βοηθάζοντας από το νεκλιο νέα πάντα από την πόρτα του Αντφυρπ.
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08:08Ποιάζεσ glutεία.
08:10Ποιόμαστε στην αρσνήλια μάου.
08:12Sie έχουν 5,500 νουλευepher...
08:14mug la χρόνια.
08:16Τι έδωνας, δεν αρκετά κάτι μερικές χ��.
08:18Υπήρξε πολύ λίγο.
08:20Υπόλοιπο είναι ότι το πλαιόμα χωρίς μάου χωρίς τρύσης.
08:25Ή μάου χωρίς χωρίς χωρίς μάου χωρίς μάου χωρίς...
08:29Δεν γίνεται για να μάου χωρίς...
08:31Λιogram χωρίς το χώρο της δεύσεως.
08:33από 1990 σε 2020, θα δείτε πόσο χρειάζεται, πόσο χρειάζεται, πόσο χρειάζεται,
08:40πόσο χρειάζεται, πόσο χρειάζεται, επειδή δεν έχουμε εξαρμόντι το οποίο έχουμε εξαρμόντι.
08:45Δεν είναι μόνο 5-10%, είναι μόνο 2%.
08:49Είναι το ίδιο σημαντικό χρειάζοντας που η Εθνία έφυγε στο δικαλείο σύστημα.
08:56Είναι πιστεύω να βρει το βαλίσιο, πιστεύω?
08:59Δεν εμπειδικό χρειαζόμαστε, που για recipient χρειάζεται,
09:20δεύναστε με βιβολύτερα με δική αλλαγή.
09:22Δεν είναι μάθομος.
09:23Δεν θα το πιστεύω.
09:25Δεν μπορούμε να κράψω πως το ρεβολύτερα είναι βρούμενος,
09:27Η πραγματική της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης αυτοί είναι και στον ευρωπαϊκό.
09:31Και αν μη αρχίσουμε να προσφέρουμε νέα τελευταία και να δημιουργήσουμε νέα,
09:36που δεν έχουμε τώρα, επειδή δεν είναι στους εξαιρετικούς σημαντικούς,
09:41θα έχουμε λίγο ανάμεσα στον ευρωπαϊκό.
09:45Επίσης, χρειάζουμε να κάνουμε την Ευρωπαϊκό τελευταία,
09:48και να διευθύνουμε τώρα,
09:50και να πρέπει να ευρωπαϊκό να το ευρωπαϊκό,
09:53αλλά οι ευρωπαϊκές χρειάζουν να εμφερθούν το τελευταίο,
09:57για την ουρία.
09:59Αν όμως, Ριόρου, γιατί δεν κάνεις αυτό, δεν θα κάνεις.
10:03Είμαστε το ευρωπαϊκό τελευταίο,
10:06να δημιουργήσουμε ότι δεν υπάρχει χρειάζοντας για κοινωνική κοχησία.
10:11Αυτό θα δημιουργήσει μια νέα αυτορία στην Ευρώπη,
10:14που ενδύχει ότι οι οποίοι με τις χρειάσες,
10:18οι οποίοι με τις χρειάσες,
10:20θα πρέπει για αυτή τη γραφή, που που ευρωπαϊκεί για.
10:24Αυτό πολιτικό δεν υλοκίνεται.
10:26Ωστόσο, στην Εθνική,
10:28ο κόβερματι έγινε να πρέπει 5%
10:30για την κομή, για την Εθνική.
10:32Εθνικής μητώνες θέλουν και το μητώνημα στήματος,
10:34αλλά οι άνθρωποι το άνθρωπος το άνθρωπος.
10:36Ήταν το άνθρωπος του από 80%
10:37και δεν πρέπει να χρειάζοντας τη σημεία.
10:39Και δεν χρειάζονται για τα σοσιαστικά σοσιαστικά σε δουλουσία.
10:42Γιατί, όπως βλέπουμε, δεν� 제 βλέπωσαι για τον Δонецκ.
10:47Και έτσι ξεκινά means πλούμενος, ο τίτρος παρκοτήρων και ο λιγότερος.
10:50Μέντε, αυτό δεν είναι πρόκλημα.
10:52Αλλά το ενός είναι δουλειο.
10:54Δεν είναι επίσης στο σωσιαστικά.
10:56μάτ demographics Our citizens expect us to invest into public services
11:00and social security systems...
11:01...and they are rightfully doing so.
11:03Ελ personas νοηθούν ζουν.
11:05Yes, I mean, they do exist.
11:06At the moment where it is attacked by Russia, it is not forgiven.
11:11And that is the discussion about.
11:13Well, let me stop you there, as it is now time to take the gloves off.
11:22Now, I want to give our viewers a real taste of the European Parliament chambers,
11:27where MEPs fire hard questions at each other.
11:30That means Rio Terrace and Martin Scherdevant
11:32will now have the opportunity to challenge each other directly,
11:35just like you do in the hemicycle.
11:38So, Martin Scherdevant, can you start, please?
11:40Rio, we met before, and you often say that this war in Ukraine will be won on the battlefield.
11:48Now, then, since Trump engaged in whatsoever diplomatic efforts
11:54and even Ursula von der Leyen changed her language,
11:56do you still believe that this war will be won on the battlefield while Russia is advancing?
12:01or do you agree with me that we need to ramp up our diplomatic efforts to end this war?
12:06Well, I have always been in the position and think that dialogue is the best way.
12:12But dialogue needs two sides.
12:15If one side is not willing to talk, you can do whatever you want.
12:19Putin will not come back to the table if we are not strong enough.
12:22And right now, Putin does not think we are strong enough
12:26and we are not supporting Ukraine in the numbers where we really need to do.
12:30Yes, the war is won at the battlefield.
12:33And Putin invaded a country and it seems like he's literally getting away with it.
12:36Rio Terrace, it's your opportunity now to address the question to Martin Scherdevant.
12:39In response to that, are you really sure that the known war criminal, Putin,
12:48is willing to come to the negotiation table in the situation
12:52where he has not listened to any discussions beforehand?
12:57And why do you think so?
12:59And should we sit with the four criminals at one table?
13:02Well, we need to end this war.
13:04This should be the objective here, not judging that war criminal.
13:07I agree, he is a war criminal, but we need to end this war.
13:11And therefore, we need to discuss how to...
13:12So, discussion with a war criminal is legal.
13:13Please let me answer.
13:14Please let me reply.
13:15And therefore, we need to end this war.
13:17And therefore, we need to think about how to do it.
13:19And I think there are several options on the table.
13:22First, engaging in a more coordinated diplomatic effort,
13:27like including also in taking on board China,
13:30who wields a huge influence over Russia and also India.
13:35Russia is dependent on, economically dependent on India.
13:38So, we need to take them on board.
13:40And then, of course, we need to target the sanctions.
13:42We have a sanctions regime in place,
13:44but we need to be more precise in targeting
13:46the industrial-military complex of Russia.
13:49Do you endorse the fact that Viktor Orban,
13:52the Prime Minister of Hungary, and the Slovakian Robert Fijo
13:54have the lines still directly open to Moscow and Beijing?
13:57Do I endorse that Trump invited Putin to Anchorage, Alaska?
14:03Well, what can I say about that?
14:05He did that, and he kicked off,
14:08as hard as it is to admit for European politicians,
14:11he kicked off a process that might, in the end,
14:14eventually lead to an end, diplomatic end of the war.
14:19We will see if this happens or not.
14:21But he kicked off something new.
14:23Would you agree with that?
14:24It's naïve.
14:25It's naïve to think that Putin comes to the table.
14:29All attempts of Trump, of Wunderland,
14:32many presidents have called, everybody has called him,
14:35he doesn't care about it,
14:36because he feels that he's strong enough
14:39to go on with the war.
14:41Time for you to address your next question to Martin Cherlevan.
14:44Putin announced that he wants to rearrange
14:47the world order to say what it was in 1997.
14:50So, coming to the discussion table,
14:53would you really think that NATO should withdraw from the Baltic states,
14:59from Finland and Sweden, etc., from Poland even,
15:02or even from the eastern Germany,
15:04in order to please Putin and bring him to the discussion table?
15:09But, Rio, I never said something like that.
15:11I never said something like that.
15:13But what I'm proposing is that we work on a stable international security order.
15:20And, of course, NATO plays a role in that.
15:22But we need to take into consideration security guarantees for many political actors,
15:27now, like China, like India, like Russia, like European Union,
15:31and, of course, the United States.
15:33But that means to rethink a stable international order,
15:36and we are far from that,
15:37because the European Commission doesn't play any geopolitical role.
15:42You're a chance to address the question now to Rio.
15:45All right.
15:46So, we already touched upon the question of financing,
15:49our expenditure for military purposes,
15:53and you are advocating for using public money,
15:58the public budget,
15:59which, as I already explained, will lead to austerity,
16:02a new wave of austerity.
16:03Would you agree with me that we need new sources to raise money
16:09if we want to tackle our challenges
16:11both at international level and internally at the social level?
16:16No, I think we should invest more wisely.
16:20We should try to cooperate more.
16:21we should try to make our defence industry more effective
16:25so that for every euro we will get more impact,
16:29but never, I would agree, with more taxes on European citizens.
16:36No, not on citizens.
16:37He's referring to tax the rich.
16:38Tax the rich.
16:39But the rich, as far as I know,
16:41the rich are the citizens of Europe as much as the poor.
16:44Well, then let's tax...
16:45So that is absolutely...
16:47Then let's tax US, American, and Chinese big tech companies.
16:51Would you be in favour of that?
16:53Well, I would say competitiveness is not won by taxes.
16:57It's by investing in the new technologies
16:59and by making ourselves stronger,
17:02not trying to get money from the others.
17:05Look, we have heard now from Martin Sjordovic and Rio Terras,
17:08and I'd like to bring in a new voice now.
17:10The EU Council President, Antonio Costa,
17:17has been making headlines of late
17:19for his ambitious statements on the future of European defence.
17:23Speaking to EU heads of state and government recently,
17:26he said,
17:27to build the Europe of defence,
17:29we need efficient political oversight and coordination.
17:32And he said,
17:33our defence ministers need to play an increased role.
17:36Martin, how do you interpret this statement?
17:38Is it the first step towards a European defence union
17:40or, may I add, an EU army?
17:42Yeah, well, he hasn't been very clear about that,
17:45but what I think he is right about
17:47is that we really need to coordinate better.
17:50So for now,
17:50we are just discussing imaginary figures
17:52that the European Commission came up with
17:54based on no assessment of whatsoever we really need.
17:57Is there an appetite, Rio Terras, to coordinate?
18:00I mean, the EU and NATO together,
18:01and industry, of course, together,
18:02because they're all competing.
18:03Yeah, well, I think NATO has put requirements
18:07on the countries and members of NATO,
18:10which most of which are part of the European Union.
18:13So we have the requirements.
18:14We know the numbers.
18:16But yes, I think the coordination
18:17between the ministers of defence is important
18:19in order to enable Commissioner Kobilius
18:24to work with them together
18:25better solutions for our own defence.
18:28And where is the market hedging its best?
18:30Because we remember a few years ago,
18:32everyone in Brussels was discussing
18:33the European Green Deal as the growth model.
18:36Now it's all about defence.
18:37We should be balanced.
18:38We should not focus in one and then another.
18:41We should do both.
18:42We should be social state also.
18:43I agree.
18:44Well, this week, I mean...
18:45But it needs to be balanced.
18:46This week, COP30 is taking place.
18:48How can we rearm Europe by 2030
18:49and also go green?
18:51This is not going to happen
18:52with the proposal that the Commission just made
18:54for the multi-unit financial framework
18:56for the EU budget.
18:56It's focusing solely on armament,
18:59rearmament Europe
19:00and not focusing on the Green Deal anymore.
19:02Your party family wants to get rid of the Green Deal
19:04and it's also putting into question
19:07the social state of Europe.
19:09The biggest threat to sustainability of Europe
19:11is if Russia attacks European countries.
19:15And again, it's always Russia.
19:18It is.
19:18It is.
19:19Today, backed by China.
19:21Not believing in naive thinking
19:23that China will be on our side.
19:25Never.
19:25A communist country will never be on European side
19:28because we are democracies
19:30and we are defending here democracy.
19:32The reason why Russia attacked Ukraine in 2022 and 2014
19:37was because Ukraine wanted to have
19:39an association agreement with the European Union.
19:41It's not about NATO.
19:42It's about free will of a free country.
19:44It is time now to take a short break here on the Ring,
19:47but stay with us.
19:48We will be back very, very soon
19:49with some more political punch.
19:51Welcome back to The Ring,
20:02Euro News' new weekly show.
20:04I'm joined by MEPs Martin Scherterman from the left
20:07and Rio Terras from the European People's Party.
20:09And the idea here is to bring the European Parliament's debates
20:12to your couch.
20:13So what about you?
20:15What do you think about the EU's drive to pump up defence?
20:18Well, according to EU data,
20:2178% of Europeans are indeed concerned
20:24about the EU's defence insecurity in the next five years.
20:28That's 8 in 10 Europeans.
20:31How do you feel about that?
20:32I can understand that.
20:34Obviously, the international order is in turmoil
20:37and, of course, we need to provide also to our citizens stability
20:41and that also means defence stability.
20:43What you're saying is very similar
20:44to what the head of the EPP said this week.
20:46He said, alone and naked we stand in a world of storms.
20:50Yeah, well, it only shows that I'm right.
20:52We need to spend more in defence
20:53and try to do it clever.
20:56What do your voters think?
20:58Well, our voters, my voters back home,
21:00understand the necessity.
21:02We understand it already since 2010
21:04as Estonia was spending 2% of the GDP on defence
21:08as we promised to NATO.
21:10Today it's 5% plus which we invest.
21:14But the Estonia's problem with 1 million people
21:17is that our 100% is too small
21:19and we need to make sure that countries like Germany,
21:23France, Spain and Italy spend the same.
21:27You're praising, of course, your country of Estonia,
21:29which is obviously your job as an MEP,
21:30but it's a much smaller country.
21:32Other countries like you're in Germany,
21:33much bigger challenges in this area.
21:35Yeah, well, the 5% target of the NATO
21:38means that Germany has to spend
21:40hundreds of millions into the military
21:43and this is, of course, a huge burden
21:46both for the public budget
21:48but also for the citizens.
21:50And this is debated very controversially in Germany
21:53and actually I do not agree with that
21:55because the amount of money
21:56will only lead to cuts in public services
21:58and social security and this is unacceptable.
22:00So citizens are not really on board with this plan?
22:0280% of the people in Europe.
22:04Well, they are not that clearly in Germany.
22:07I mean, they are concerned.
22:08Well, they are in Germany also.
22:10It's not that German public is against defence spending.
22:12That's not true.
22:13I think they're concerned until when it comes to the money
22:15coming from their pocket.
22:17Well, that's always the case
22:18and that's why democracy works.
22:20You elect people who take decisions for you
22:23and then next time you elect the other people.
22:25No, that is too easy.
22:25That is too easy, Leo,
22:26because that means actually that public money,
22:29meaning taxpayers' money,
22:30meaning our money
22:31and the working class families' money
22:33goes directly into the pockets
22:34of the big shareholders
22:35of the arms manufacturers.
22:37This is not that easy
22:38and people are discussing
22:39and we have to be honest there.
22:41No, it makes Europe stronger.
22:41It makes Europe stronger.
22:43But can you name a single situation
22:46where world power
22:49without military packing
22:50has changed history?
22:52But Martin Sheridan is right.
22:53The arms industry will get much richer,
22:55but will ordinary citizens benefit too?
22:57We should use more SMEs.
22:59We should get the money.
23:00Then we should tax them.
23:01Then we should tax them.
23:02Yeah.
23:02But you don't agree with that idea.
23:04We should not tax the big ones,
23:06but we should make sure...
23:08Tax the small ones.
23:08Make sure that the money comes to the SMEs,
23:12to the small technology companies,
23:14which right now are disrupting
23:17the battlefield in Ukraine.
23:19We need to get the big money,
23:21not to the big primes,
23:22but to the SMEs
23:23who are creating working space,
23:26who are creating jobs
23:27for the ordinary people
23:30who can earn more money.
23:31The money comes back to you
23:32if you are clever enough.
23:34It's a wishful thinking,
23:35do you think, Martin Sheridan,
23:36this idea to rearm Europe by 2030?
23:38No, not really wishful thinking
23:40because there are huge investments
23:42on the way.
23:43And I agree with the idea
23:44that we need to be capable
23:45to defend ourselves.
23:47But as also Rio now confirmed,
23:49we need to spend the money more wisely
23:51in order to address the new challenges.
23:53Cyber attacks, drone warfare, etc.
23:55And we have to be very precise
23:57in our assessment what we need
23:59as a society, as European society.
24:01And that assessment hasn't been done yet.
24:03And I do completely disagree.
24:05That's why I do completely disagree
24:07with the proposals on the table.
24:08And Rio, how are you convincing other countries?
24:10Because, of course, Estonia is very close to Russia.
24:13You feel the threats every day.
24:15Countries, though, like Spain, Italy, Greece,
24:16they have other issues on their minds,
24:18like migration, for example.
24:19Well, the war criminal Putin is helping us always.
24:22If I have difficulties to convince somebody,
24:25he would attack somebody.
24:26and the events in Brussels airport recently show us
24:31that everybody is in danger.
24:33Everybody, from Spain to Portugal, everywhere.
24:37And we need to understand
24:38that the migration is not an existential threat.
24:42Migration is a threat to our way of life,
24:45to our economy.
24:46But war is an existential threat.
24:49And that is a difference.
24:50Final reaction to that?
24:51Would you agree?
24:51Yeah, well, I really don't get that.
24:53I mean, how can you say that migration?
24:56You put it all in one basket.
24:57You put it all in one basket.
24:59You put it in one basket.
25:00There is no clear political line.
25:01Why do you bring now migrants?
25:03I was not putting it all in one basket.
25:04I was just highlighting the challenges
25:06and the issues facing other member states.
25:09But it is now time to move on
25:11to our fifth and final round.
25:13Are you ready?
25:19Now it is time for something different.
25:21I'm going to ask you a set of questions
25:23and I require a yes or no answer.
25:26Is this doable?
25:27I hope so.
25:28Let's find out.
25:29Let's find out.
25:31Should the EU develop
25:32its own nuclear deterrence strategy?
25:34Yes or no?
25:35No.
25:37No.
25:38Can the EU ever be a military power?
25:40Yes or no?
25:42It is.
25:43Yes.
25:44What about military conscription?
25:46Is this a good idea?
25:47Yes or no?
25:49I have my doubts.
25:50Conscription is the only way
25:52for small countries.
25:53I don't know about big ones.
25:54Should EU countries spend
25:56at least 2% of their GDP on defence?
25:59Well, it depends on what we actually need.
26:01Yes or no?
26:02So I would say let's look into it.
26:04Yes, of course.
26:05Not even more.
26:06Is Russia's threat big enough
26:09to justify the current surge in spending?
26:11No.
26:12Russia is not justified
26:12to do anything at the moment, I think.
26:14Yes, it is.
26:15Will Europe ever be military independent
26:17from the United States?
26:19Yes or no?
26:19Yes.
26:20Yes.
26:22Should the EU funds be used
26:23to subsidise weapons?
26:25Yes or no?
26:25Yes.
26:26No.
26:27It is not allowed
26:28by the European treaties, by the way.
26:30Even though it is on the cards?
26:31Yes.
26:32Should taxpayers accept higher public debt
26:35to fund military build-up?
26:37In separate countries, yes.
26:38No.
26:39Should EU defence projects
26:40prioritise European companies only,
26:42even if it raises costs?
26:43Yes or no?
26:44No.
26:44At the current moment,
26:45we need to take whatever is available
26:47in the world.
26:48Same question to you?
26:49We should prioritise European industry, yes.
26:53And what about drones?
26:54Is the future of warfare on drones?
26:57No, on people.
26:58Well, the future is on peace.
27:00Final question.
27:02Have you agreed with anything
27:03that Martin Sherdogan has said here?
27:05Yes, that we need to be smarter
27:07in spending on defence.
27:09What about you?
27:10Well, no.
27:13I have my difficulties to find something
27:14that I agree with,
27:15that you just said.
27:17But at least we have brought you together
27:19here on The Ring.
27:20Martin Sherdogan and Rio Teres,
27:21thank you so much for being on The Ring.
27:23Thank you so much.
27:23And thank you so much for watching.
27:25If you have a comment for us,
27:27do reach out.
27:28TheRing at Euronews.com.
27:30That is our email address.
27:31Tell us how you feel
27:32about the EU's focus on defence.
27:35Thanks for watching
27:36and see you soon.
27:37Thank you.
27:38Thank you.
27:39Thank you.
27:41Thank you.
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