00:30There were usually at least three people hiding, but sometimes 12 or 13 people at a time, sleeping on the table, under the table, anywhere.
00:40There was one Jewish couple, the Hilfmans, who refused to come to our house.
00:45They said, we are Jews, this is our fate, and we have to accept it, whatever it is.
00:50But at the last minute, just hours before the Hilfmans were taken by the Nazis, they let an electrician bring their three-year-old daughter to us, and she has been our daughter ever since.
01:03And that was the beginning, because when her husband came, that was all right, too.
01:07And when the sister came, well, why not?
01:09And that was the way it went until there were 37 people.
01:12All together, we took in about 40 people, but we would have only between four and ten at any one time.
01:20I think you're trying to be modest.
01:23When I was there, you had 20 people in your house, all at the same time.
01:27I thought, if I survived this, I've done something great.
01:34We didn't ever talk about it.
01:35It was something you had to do, and it was easy to do, because it was your duty.
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