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00:30In Louisiana lies an area of desolate swampland, known as Whiskey Bay.
00:40Midway between Lafayette and Baton Rouge, it belongs to the Atchafalaya River Basin,
00:48the largest swamp in the United States, covering more than a million acres.
00:55It's a very rural location, very swampy, a lot of open land. It's not developed.
01:07Across Whiskey Bay runs the Atchafalaya Basin Bridge, carrying the Interstate 10 Highway.
01:15It's America's third-longest bridge. But this area is infamous for another reason.
01:23During the daytime and nighttime, there is known to be a lot of traffic on the Interstate.
01:28But once you leave that Interstate, it's total darkness.
01:31It's a very secluded area, and at nighttime, you can't see your hand in front of your face.
01:37It's just that dark out in that area.
01:40Because of how dark it can be, it's easy for people to travel this area and sometimes try to conceal evidence, our bodies.
01:48It was around 11 o'clock a.m. I was notified through dispatch and was informed that there was a body in Whiskey Bay.
02:04And once I got that call, just stepped up, went into duty, and proceeded to the body.
02:08I get a phone call. It's a female called in by a fisherman.
02:14Lo and behold, I head out to the Whiskey Bay area.
02:19The body was floating in the middle of the swampland.
02:23So the only way detectives could access it was by boat.
02:27When I made it here, the boat was already here. The fire department boat was here.
02:32And the chief of the fire department, who's also a corner investigator, was the one riding the boat.
02:38This is where we launched the boat at for the fire department. This is where we deployed at.
02:49It was a race against time.
02:52Investigators needed to find the body before vital evidence was destroyed.
02:56Swampy areas like this tend to be in high bacteria environments, usually warm, full of different aquatic animals.
03:15You got alligator, you got snakes, you got everything. You got fish, you got crawfish.
03:20So the quicker we get to that body, the better off for us, because it could change a scene real quick.
03:27They are likely to eat or at least nibble on the evidence.
03:33What trauma did this environment now cause to the body?
03:37The shallow depth of the swamp also meant much warmer water temperatures.
03:42During that time of the year, April is starting to warm, right?
03:47A terrible factor for a body. Decomposition can start immediately.
03:52One of the more common things that happens with post-mortem decomposition and is enhanced often in the water environment is the sloughing of the skin.
04:07Since we identify a lot of bodies by fingerprints, if the skin of the hands is sloughing off and decomposing,
04:17it's very challenging to get appropriate fingerprints that are usable for identifying a body.
04:25On the interstate, there's a mile marker for each section of the interstate.
04:30And we were told it was around a 130 to 132 mile marker area.
04:35So we head west, and lo and behold, around the 131, 132 is where we locate the body.
04:42It was a young Caucasian female that was partially submerged in the water.
04:51When we pull up to the body, you know, we slow down, we go slow because we don't want to make any waves,
04:56because that'll create a wave, and it would also affect the crime scene as well if there's anything laying next to the body.
05:02So we ease up on it, and the body was submerged partially, but it was face down.
05:07As we pull up to the body, I noticed there was a cluster of trees, like little young trees that were growing up in that water right there.
05:16The deceit was observed to be caught up in several of the cypress trees, the stumps and branches that were present within this body of water.
05:24Areas such as these are not easily accessible to most people,
05:28which leads investigators to think there was no way she could have naturally gotten to that position.
05:33When I'm looking around, I'm trying to figure out, where did she come from? How did she get here?
05:37I'm looking for another boat. Is there a boat brick? Is a boat capsized? Don't see any of that.
05:44But investigators noticed something strange about one of the trees.
05:49On that tree, I remember specifically seeing branches were broken.
05:53So I look up, you know, and there's the interstate.
05:55At that particular point in time where she's at, when I'm looking up,
05:59it's probably a 20, 25-foot drop from the top of that bridge.
06:03Automatically, I thought she was thrown over the top of the bridge.
06:07And the interstate thought it could have been a possible car accident,
06:09and somebody got ejected over the edge.
06:13What they discovered next raised more questions about this theory.
06:19Once myself and the guy from the fire department turned her body over,
06:22we realized she was completely nude.
06:25Just a nude, deceased body.
06:28There was no way this person could just pop up there out of the blue.
06:34Something had to happen.
06:39They removed the body from the water to investigate further.
06:43The next thing that we need to do is try to identify who this young lady is.
07:10She's naked, in the middle of nowhere, no identification.
07:15So we have to identify her so we can start trying to work back
07:18and try to see and figure out what has happened to this young lady.
07:23She did have some tattoos that we were able to look at
07:26and try to see if we could add anything in the database for tattoos
07:29or anything like that, skin markings.
07:31However, there was nothing that would have identified her.
07:33Then, pathologists provided a breakthrough.
07:42In this case, the fingerprints were relatively preserved.
07:45Had she been in the water longer than that, they may have been obliterated.
07:49And oftentimes, bodies in water get something like we call washerwoman fingers.
07:54And it's like when you are in the bathtub too long
07:56and your skin begins to wrinkle up.
07:58Then, it may be impossible to get fingerprints
08:01until we're able to puff up those ridges.
08:05We will do that by taking a hypodermic needle
08:08and putting saline very lightly under the skin
08:12just to make that ridge detail in the skin
08:14more accessible to doing fingerprints.
08:18Thank God we found her when we did
08:19because if she'd been in there a couple more days or longer,
08:22decomposition sets in,
08:23it might have been impossible other than dental record.
08:27We actually got lucky with it
08:29because we got fingerprints off that body.
08:33While fingerprint databases were searched,
08:35the team uncovered something else.
08:39We learned about a traffic accident
08:41that it also occurred on the bridge in the general area.
08:44And we had to rule that out
08:45because you never know if that crash
08:48had something to do with this body.
08:50One of the occupants had a criminal history.
08:55One of them was known to be arrested
08:58for transportation and prostitution.
09:00So, you know, was she a kidnap
09:03and was she a victim of sex trafficking?
09:07You know, everything started going through our head,
09:08you know, human trafficking.
09:10You make your hair on the back of your neck stand up.
09:12Human trafficking is something
09:21that's been a huge problem in the United States
09:23as well as abroad.
09:24And it essentially involves forcing
09:27often young women into having sex for money.
09:31It can involve kidnapping victims
09:33and then trafficking them
09:35and taking them from state to state.
09:36But from a trafficker perspective,
09:38the commodity, of course, is the victim.
09:41And so you don't tend to see murders
09:45in human trafficking situations
09:47unless it's a drug overdose
09:48or it's a bad date that's gone too far
09:52or there's been some kind of conflict
09:55between the pimp and the victim.
09:58But when the fingerprint results came back,
10:03they revealed the victim
10:04was 28-year-old mother of two,
10:07Elizabeth Farrell,
10:08a store assistant with no known connections
10:11to sex trafficking or prostitution.
10:15Blood found in the suspicious accident vehicle
10:18also raised doubts.
10:20The DNA was not for Ms. Farrell.
10:25Absolutely nothing to do with that crash.
10:29But Elizabeth Farrell's identification
10:31raised another major question.
10:34Well, when they first came back
10:35and we realized she was from Humboldt, Texas,
10:37I was like, why is she here from Humboldt, Texas?
10:41The city of Humboldt, Texas
10:43lies 230 miles west
10:45of where Elizabeth was found.
10:47Our next step is trying to figure out
10:51how do she get from Texas to here?
10:54Why is she here?
10:56And we're missing a few pieces here
10:57and we need to put these pieces together
10:59to complete this puzzle.
11:00In Whiskey Bay, Louisiana,
11:19detectives are investigating
11:20after the naked body of a woman
11:22was found in a swamp
11:23beneath Interstate Highway 10.
11:27Fingerprints reveal the woman
11:29and his 28-year-old mother of two,
11:31Elizabeth Farrell,
11:32who lived 230 miles away in Texas.
11:36So, how did she get here?
11:39I'm looking on the bank.
11:40I don't see anything disturbed on the banks.
11:43So, I get my detective out
11:44and I had him scour that bank
11:47to look for anything that stood out
11:50that possibly could have been telling us
11:52why this body's in this water.
11:54Because all we had was a body in the water
11:57laying near a bunch of branches
11:59and there's nothing near it.
12:01There's absolutely zero.
12:04As the crime scene offered no more clues,
12:08police had to rule out other options.
12:12Could the current of the river
12:13have brought Elizabeth's body here
12:15from further upstream?
12:16Trying to determine exactly
12:30the path of a body in this region
12:32is difficult.
12:34In this region, flow is steady
12:36and that can transport a body
12:39quite a long distance
12:40and certainly put it into various inlets
12:42and creeks
12:43and leave it stranded there for some time.
12:45If it has any current in the water at all,
12:50it's going to move that body
12:51from where it was originally dumped at.
12:53So, it makes finding the original drop site
12:57a little more difficult.
12:59You've also got mangroves,
13:00you've got islands,
13:02you've got levees.
13:03These are all obstructions,
13:05these are all issues
13:06that would sort of cause a body to get stuck.
13:09It's a bit like a sort of a random walk effect.
13:12Certainly tracking a body in this area
13:14is difficult because it is so complex.
13:17The area where the body was located,
13:19the tides and the water level
13:21can also affect how things stay,
13:23how they float, how they move.
13:25However, at that time,
13:26the water was very calm,
13:28so you could tell that she had not moved.
13:32Investigators look to Elizabeth's post-mortem
13:34for answers.
13:37In Elizabeth's case,
13:39when the body was examined,
13:40there were injuries to Elizabeth's body
13:42around the head and around the chest.
13:45There was blunt force trauma,
13:47and what that means is that Elizabeth was hit
13:50with some type of a blunt object
13:52causing damage and bruises.
13:53This was a violent attack.
13:58There were bruises along the neck in particular.
14:03This leads us to think that
14:05maybe there was some type of strangulation
14:07where the hands are placed around the person's neck
14:12and the neck is squeezed.
14:15Then that person will become unconscious
14:18and eventually die.
14:21The pathologist ruled the cause of death
14:23would have been asphyxiation by strangulation.
14:28The pathologist made another intriguing discovery.
14:33Levitity is basically the pooling of the blood.
14:36When we lay in a certain fashion,
14:41blood pools to the lowest point of gravity.
14:44In Elizabeth's case,
14:45there was a levitity pattern
14:47that showed she had not been killed
14:50and then dumped immediately.
14:52Because the levitity had set or been fixed,
14:55once she's moved,
14:56that levitity doesn't change.
14:59She was kept someplace on her back
15:01in order to allow that levitity to be set.
15:04In this case,
15:07likely the trunk of a car
15:08for several hours
15:09before she was actually dumped
15:10where she was found.
15:13The pathologist's determination was
15:15that she was murdered
15:16before she was placed in the water.
15:20Investigators were now convinced
15:21Elizabeth had been murdered
15:23and her body dumped
15:25off the interstate highway bridge.
15:26We were able to go forward
15:35with the fact that
15:36it was definitely ruled a homicide
15:37and there was definitely foul play.
15:41This type of strangulation
15:42is a type of death
15:44that is very up close and personal.
15:47That gives us an indication
15:48for what direction
15:49to take the investigation.
15:51It's very likely that she knew her killer
15:53and perhaps knew them well.
15:57Detectives put Elizabeth's life
15:59under the microscope,
16:01speaking to those who knew her,
16:03including best friend Shannon.
16:08I received a phone call
16:10and he left a message
16:11and so I immediately called him back
16:13and I just said,
16:15hi, my name is Shannon.
16:17He just called me about Liz.
16:18Is she okay?
16:19And his response was,
16:20no ma'am, she's dead.
16:24My first reaction, of course,
16:26those tears started streaming down my face.
16:28I want to scream bloody murder
16:29and I was ready to go
16:31pull one of my dad's hunting rifles
16:32out of his safe
16:33and go hunt this bleepity bleep down.
16:37To find out who the killer was,
16:40investigators needed to dig
16:41into Elizabeth's past.
16:43She was actually
16:46probably my first,
16:48what I would guess you could call
16:49best friend
16:50in my adult life.
16:52She was so petite.
16:53She was just,
16:53she looked like a little
16:54living and walking doll.
16:56But she was just always
16:57upbeat and chipper.
16:59She never really had a bad thing
17:00to say about anybody.
17:03Life hadn't been easy
17:05for Elizabeth.
17:06Her mother died
17:07when she was 18.
17:09Her mother was deceased.
17:11Her father was not in the picture.
17:12And we learned
17:13that she had a tough upbringing,
17:15but she was,
17:16she was a fighter.
17:16She, she fought.
17:18I think that's why
17:19she was so resilient.
17:20She was so resilient
17:21because of her tougher upbringing
17:23that she did have.
17:24She had to be.
17:27In 2005,
17:29she met Jonathan Alley.
17:31They had met at a restaurant
17:32and actually when they first met,
17:34he was really sweet
17:35and really gentle,
17:36really kind to her.
17:37And that's where
17:38she fell in love with him.
17:42The couple got married
17:43and moved to New Orleans
17:44to set up a bar.
17:48It seemed like it was
17:49a fairly decent relationship.
17:50However,
17:51she finds out she's pregnant
17:52and just puts a hold
17:53on all their plans
17:54in New Orleans.
17:55And they feel like
17:55they need some financial support.
17:57It may be emotional support as well,
17:59at least from Jonathan's perspective.
18:00So they decide to move back
18:01to Humboldt, Texas.
18:02He really wasn't able
18:05to hold a steady job
18:06very often.
18:07The best job he had,
18:08he was welding somewhere
18:09and he wound up
18:09breaking his arm
18:10and couldn't work
18:11so he lost the job.
18:13And then they wound up
18:14losing where they were living.
18:16They were living
18:16in a trailer home
18:17at the time
18:17and they moved in
18:18with his grandmother.
18:23It creates a huge strain
18:24in the relationship
18:26between Liz and Jonathan
18:28for a number
18:29of different reasons.
18:30She gives birth
18:31to her first child in 2010.
18:33And I think that Liz
18:34really feels incredibly alone
18:37and lonely
18:38in the sense that
18:39Jonathan's grandmother
18:40is doting,
18:42is an understatement,
18:43I think,
18:43in terms of her relationship
18:44with him.
18:45No woman is good enough,
18:47you know,
18:47for her precious Jonathan.
18:49And I think Liz
18:50really feels
18:51Jonathan's grandmother
18:51doesn't like her
18:52and that she's not
18:54welcome there.
18:55I think it mainly
18:56was kind of, you know,
18:57she's taking my son away
18:58kind of thing.
18:59She did not like Liz
19:00for anything.
19:03Despite the tensions,
19:05in 2015,
19:06the couple had
19:07a second daughter.
19:09According to the people
19:11we spoke to over there,
19:12they said that
19:13she always told them
19:14that the grandmother
19:15said she was a bad mother.
19:17She just felt like
19:18she had no life there.
19:20She was very isolated
19:21from the rest of the family.
19:23She did a lot of gaming.
19:25And that's what I think
19:26was her way out.
19:27She was always
19:29talking about her games
19:31and the people
19:31that she was meeting
19:32on there.
19:33And she seemed
19:34to make friends
19:35right and left.
19:36It didn't really matter
19:37who they were,
19:37where they were from,
19:38or anything like that.
19:39She could just make friends.
19:43She increasingly
19:44is turning into gaming,
19:45I think,
19:45as a way to escape
19:46the environment
19:48that she's living in.
19:49And I think increasingly
19:50she finds that
19:51that's her only outlet
19:53at home,
19:53a way for her to feel,
19:55you know,
19:55pleasure and to have fun
19:57and not to feel
19:59all of this,
20:00you know,
20:01dislike and stress.
20:04She's beginning
20:05to have conversations.
20:07She's revealing more
20:08about herself
20:08and her situation.
20:10She's becoming flirtatious
20:11with a couple of guys online.
20:13When I found out
20:17that she was actually
20:18starting to meet people
20:18outside that she had
20:19met online,
20:21I actually got kind
20:22of worried about her
20:23because you never know
20:24what you're going to
20:24actually come across.
20:26They can be one thing
20:26online and completely
20:27different in person.
20:29And I didn't feel
20:30comfortable with that
20:30and so I made a point
20:31to make sure it's like
20:32if you have any problems,
20:33if you don't feel safe,
20:34if you don't feel comfortable,
20:35call me.
20:36I'll be there in a heartbeat.
20:38This can be very,
20:39very risky.
20:40And at the same time,
20:41you know,
20:42I wonder how much
20:43the situation
20:44that Liz was in
20:45in terms of feeling
20:47so isolated
20:48and so unhappy
20:49and so lonely
20:50that for her,
20:52it was worth it.
20:54Could Elizabeth's killer
20:55be a gamer
20:56she'd met online?
20:58Or was it someone
21:00closer to home?
21:11In Whiskey Bay, Louisiana,
21:20investigators now know
21:21murdered mother of two,
21:23Elizabeth Farrell,
21:24was strangled
21:25before being dumped
21:26in Swampland.
21:29They reach out
21:30to her husband
21:31and father of her children,
21:32Jonathan Alley.
21:35I asked him if he knew
21:36Elizabeth Farrell.
21:38He said,
21:38yes, I do.
21:39I said,
21:39well, unfortunately,
21:42I hate to do so
21:42by telephone,
21:43but we have located her
21:45here in Louisiana.
21:47And I told him,
21:48I said,
21:48and it's not good.
21:50I said,
21:50she's deceased.
21:51And his reaction to me
21:53on the phone
21:54was like,
21:55kind of blew me away.
21:56He goes like,
21:57really?
21:58Louisiana?
21:59Why is she over there?
22:01And I thought
22:02that was strange.
22:03It's extremely odd
22:06and not something
22:07that I think
22:08most investigators
22:09see
22:10as the first reaction
22:12to hearing
22:12that your loved one
22:13has been found
22:14deceased,
22:16out of state,
22:17unclothed,
22:18in a body of water.
22:21When investigators
22:22find somebody
22:24who is so out of the norm,
22:25it's always a red flag.
22:27I say,
22:28how did she get here?
22:29So I don't know
22:29if she left here
22:30a week ago
22:30and she just
22:31came up missing.
22:31He did not give us
22:33any indication
22:34as to why Elizabeth
22:36would be in Louisiana,
22:37how Elizabeth
22:38would have been
22:38in Louisiana,
22:39or how long
22:40Elizabeth would have been
22:42in Louisiana.
22:43I'm like,
22:43this don't sound right.
22:44So there was actually
22:45a police officer
22:46from Texas
22:47that went to that house
22:48at the time
22:49I called him.
22:51He stepped outside
22:52and I said,
22:53between me and you,
22:55the reaction
22:55I'm hearing
22:56over the telephone,
22:56before I could finish
22:57my comment,
22:59he said,
22:59I'm seeing the same thing
23:00you're hearing.
23:00zero remorse.
23:06Some of the things
23:07that he did tell us
23:08was concerning
23:09the fact that his wife
23:10had not been seen
23:12by him
23:12by his own admission
23:14in a week,
23:14and she has
23:15two young children.
23:16If,
23:17as a parent,
23:18you go missing
23:19with two young children,
23:20the other parent
23:21is most times
23:23concerned about
23:23where that parent
23:24may or may not be.
23:26We expect to have
23:26some sort of
23:27missing persons report
23:29by a family member.
23:30However,
23:31that was not done.
23:34Detectives uncovered
23:35something else
23:36concerning
23:36about the couple's
23:38marriage.
23:41They learned
23:42through friends
23:43and co-workers
23:44that she was
23:45in a very
23:45volatile relationship.
23:46She come to work
23:48with scratches,
23:50bruises on her
23:51from time to time,
23:52and she would tell them
23:53that the person
23:54she was living with
23:56was very violent
23:57toward her.
23:57He really started
23:59getting physical.
24:00There was one time
24:01she came in,
24:01she had a black eye,
24:03both lips were busted,
24:04and she almost lost
24:05her two front teeth.
24:06He hit her
24:07with a casted hand,
24:08and that's when he really
24:10started getting really bad.
24:11We all tried to get her
24:13to call the police on him
24:14because at least
24:14it would get him
24:15away from her,
24:16or maybe her and the girls
24:18to a safer point,
24:18but she just wouldn't do it
24:20because she did
24:21still care about him,
24:22and she would apologize
24:23profusely afterwards,
24:25and, you know,
24:25the same old rigmarole.
24:27When we have this kind
24:29of vicious cycle
24:30of, you know,
24:31violence followed
24:32by remorse,
24:33we oftentimes can see
24:34this progression
24:34of violence over time,
24:36being less and less sorry,
24:38more and more blaming
24:39on the victim
24:40that they somehow
24:41caused this to happen.
24:42One of the things
24:43that we've discovered
24:44in the recent years
24:45is just what a marker
24:47and a predictor
24:48that is for danger.
24:49We did want to look
24:51at Jonathan Ali
24:52a little bit harder
24:53in making sure
24:55that we cooperate
24:56with everything
24:56that he said.
25:01Jonathan was brought
25:02in for questioning.
25:04Two of my detectives
25:05went over there,
25:06and they spoke to him.
25:08Hi, Jonathan.
25:10You doing all right, man?
25:10He's not in the race.
25:13Right now,
25:13we're investigating
25:14a very serious offense,
25:15okay?
25:17When they got to meet
25:18Mr. Ali for the first time
25:19in person,
25:20it wasn't the exact same story
25:22he was telling me
25:22over the phone.
25:23So there was a lot
25:24of inconsistencies.
25:26When was the last time
25:26you saw her?
25:28Thursday.
25:30Initially,
25:31he told us
25:31that he hadn't seen her
25:32in a week,
25:32and then it turned to,
25:33well, he saw her
25:34on Thursday,
25:35and it went from there.
25:38Tell me what happened
25:39to you better expect.
25:40I came home
25:41in her bedroom.
25:42No one was closed,
25:43so I figured
25:45the baby was sleeping.
25:48He said that,
25:48you know,
25:49he heard the baby crying,
25:51the young man crying.
25:52He went in there
25:53and learned
25:53that Elizabeth
25:54wasn't there anymore.
25:57The Xbox was gone,
25:59closed,
26:01a couple of new things.
26:03And he hadn't seen her since.
26:05There was a lot of,
26:07a lot of tension
26:08in the house.
26:09It just didn't click
26:10anymore.
26:11This was the first time
26:13Jonathan revealed
26:14his marriage
26:14was on the rocks.
26:16During that phone call
26:17with him,
26:18he didn't mention anything
26:19about, like,
26:19the relationship,
26:20anything like that.
26:21The two detectives
26:22that did speak to him,
26:23he told them that
26:23they hadn't been intimate
26:24in a few years,
26:26and they had some problems
26:28in the marital situation.
26:30Have you ever hit her?
26:32Yeah.
26:32How many times?
26:33One time.
26:35How'd you get
26:36the bruises on your
26:37knuckles and stuff?
26:39They're not bruises,
26:40it's dirt.
26:41It's dirt?
26:42From what?
26:43I'm not sure.
26:46You ever been
26:47with Louisiana before?
26:48Yeah.
26:49When's the last time
26:50you've been with Louisiana?
26:53A few years ago.
26:55You could tell
26:56that he was a little uneasy
26:57in talking to the detectives
26:59about the situation.
27:00I didn't do this.
27:03You won't forgive us
27:04for taking the life.
27:06I didn't do this.
27:10Well, who did it?
27:11I don't know.
27:13With no hard evidence
27:14against him,
27:16Elizabeth's husband
27:16was free to go.
27:20But then there was
27:21a development
27:22that would turn
27:23the investigation
27:24on its head.
27:25She was actually
27:28meeting people online
27:29and trying to find
27:30somebody to help her escape,
27:32get her to another state even.
27:34And she actually
27:36did go on a couple
27:36of dates
27:36with some people
27:37she met online.
27:38When she was gaming
27:40with one online
27:41from Oklahoma
27:42and this guy
27:43actually came in
27:45from Oklahoma
27:45to Texas
27:46to Umba
27:47and met her
27:48and they spent
27:49a night
27:50at a hotel.
27:52So,
27:52here we go.
27:54You know,
27:54was it domestic
27:55or was it
27:57something else?
27:58Was it this guy
27:59came down
28:00who was a serial killer
28:00from God knows where
28:02that preyed upon
28:04this young lady
28:05and killed her?
28:06So,
28:06back to
28:09square one again.
28:10You know,
28:10we know we got a murder.
28:12Now we got to figure out
28:14who is the murderer.
28:15It is risky
28:17to meet somebody
28:18that we don't know,
28:19that we've never met
28:20in person,
28:21online.
28:22Less so in a public place
28:23but to meet somebody
28:24in a hotel
28:25or a place
28:25where you're going
28:26to be intimate
28:26for the first time
28:27I think can be seen
28:28as risky.
28:30This guy could be
28:30a stalker,
28:31he could be a predator.
28:32There have been
28:32plenty of cases
28:33of people who've
28:34been catfished
28:35and they think
28:35they're getting
28:36one person
28:36and then somebody
28:38turns up
28:38who's nothing
28:39like they said
28:40they were going to
28:40or even worse.
28:42But she is willing
28:43to take a risk.
28:46We were able
28:47to determine
28:48who that person was,
28:50we were able
28:50to make contact
28:51with that person
28:52via telephone.
28:53on.
28:53He heard that we
28:56had found Elizabeth
28:57here in Louisiana
28:58deceased.
28:59His reaction
29:00to us
29:01was a hundred
29:02times more
29:03emotional
29:04than her
29:06actual husband
29:07and we knew
29:08immediately
29:09upon speaking
29:10to him
29:10he could prove
29:11where he was at.
29:12He had an alibi.
29:14We knew for a fact
29:15he had never
29:16came to her
29:16anywhere near
29:18the state of Louisiana.
29:19And we were able
29:20to eliminate him
29:21as a suspect
29:22in this homicide.
29:25Investigators
29:25once again
29:26zeroed in
29:27on Jonathan Ale.
29:29They needed
29:30to place him
29:31on the interstate
29:31highway bridge
29:32over Whiskey Bay
29:33and work out
29:35his motive
29:35for coming here.
29:43The body of water
29:44along with the bridge
29:45is a pretty
29:46isolated area
29:47with only two exits
29:48on an 18-mile road
29:50leading to that location.
29:52Given the remote
29:53location of Whiskey Bay
29:54it's not uncommon
29:55for investigators
29:56to see body dumps.
29:58We've got calls
29:59in that area
30:00before.
30:01Years ago
30:01there was a serial killer
30:02working in that area.
30:03dumping bodies
30:04off in that area.
30:07What could draw
30:08a killer
30:08to these waters
30:09230 miles
30:11from Texas?
30:13During the time
30:14of this homicide
30:15there was a TV show
30:17that we were featured
30:18on that aired
30:20early 2016
30:22that talked about
30:23our geography
30:25and you know
30:27how people
30:28discard bodies
30:29and things
30:30in our area
30:31based on the
30:32geography
30:33of our area.
30:34It featured
30:35bodies being dumped
30:37at Whiskey Bay
30:38here in Louisiana
30:39in our parish.
30:41Possibly he may
30:42have watched that show.
30:43Further findings
30:45from the autopsy
30:46confirmed the police's
30:47theory
30:47that Elizabeth
30:48was dropped
30:49over the side
30:50of the bridge.
30:52Elizabeth had
30:53puncture wounds
30:54that were from
30:54the branches
30:55of trees
30:56indicating she was
30:57pushed off
30:58or thrown off
30:59the bridge.
30:59her body
31:00hit those
31:01and they would
31:01cause post-mortem
31:02injuries
31:03which we can
31:05determine were not
31:05the actual cause
31:06of death.
31:08We know that
31:08because through
31:09the autopsy
31:10when we find bruises
31:12or damage
31:12to a body
31:13we can actually
31:14make a small
31:15incision
31:16in those bruises
31:18to determine
31:18if there is
31:19something we call
31:20vital force.
31:21If there is
31:22vital force
31:23then that person
31:24was alive
31:25when those
31:26injuries occurred.
31:27That's bleeding
31:28into the tissue.
31:29When we incise
31:30those wounds
31:31and we find out
31:32that there is
31:32no vital force
31:33then we know
31:34that those are
31:35post-mortem injuries.
31:39But investigators
31:40still had to prove
31:41Jonathan had come
31:43to Whiskey Bay.
31:45We found out
31:46Elizabeth did not
31:47drive.
31:48She had no
31:48driver's license.
31:50She had no vehicle.
31:51We learned
31:52from work
31:52co-workers
31:53that he brought
31:54her to work
31:54and picked her up
31:55from work.
31:56While my two
31:56detectives are over
31:57there Jonathan
31:58finally pulls up
31:59in a car.
32:00On the back window
32:01there was a small
32:02American flag
32:03in about the middle
32:04part of the window.
32:05The detective
32:05made note of it.
32:07We started looking
32:08for surveillance cameras.
32:09It took hours
32:11of surveilling
32:12through video
32:13not only by me
32:15but by multiple
32:16detectives.
32:17During this time
32:18it's 2-ish
32:203-ish in the morning.
32:21I'm in my office
32:22and my detective
32:24runs in there
32:25and quote
32:26I got that
32:27son of a bitch
32:28and I'm like
32:29got what?
32:31He said
32:31I got the car
32:32from Humboldt,
32:33Texas
32:34here
32:35right near
32:36Whiskey Bay.
32:38He was able
32:39to locate that
32:40in these hours
32:41worth of video
32:42footage
32:43and camera footage
32:44that we saw
32:45that even had
32:46the American flag
32:47sticker on the back
32:49that we were able
32:49to cooperate.
32:51Jonathan Ali's
32:52car had as well.
32:54I said
32:54you gotta be kidding me.
32:56I think it was like
32:567.58pm
32:58the night before
32:58we found the body
32:59that vehicle
33:00is eastbound
33:01and at 9 something
33:04is back westbound
33:05and like
33:07okay
33:08who's driving
33:09that car?
33:11That vehicle
33:12was registered
33:13to his grandmother.
33:14So I find
33:16a phone number
33:16for her.
33:18Come to find out
33:19she says
33:19she was at a campground
33:21in another part
33:22of Texas.
33:23I find this campground
33:24that she was in.
33:25I actually speak
33:26to the manager.
33:27Manager says
33:28confirm
33:29in fact
33:29she was here
33:30during the time
33:32we think
33:33this body was done.
33:36The only other person
33:37who had access
33:38to the car
33:39was Jonathan's uncle.
33:41So now
33:42we're down to two.
33:43We're down to
33:44Jonathan Ali
33:45or the other gentleman
33:46living in the residence.
33:47The uncle
33:47we could verify
33:49from where he was at.
33:50We knew he had
33:52an alibi
33:52a silent alibi.
33:53He even told us
33:54that when he had
33:56came home
33:57Jonathan wasn't there.
33:59The car wasn't there.
34:00The grandmother
34:01wasn't there
34:01because she was
34:02at this campground
34:04in Grospeck, Texas.
34:05So
34:06he had went to bed.
34:11I think he had said
34:13around 1245
34:14or something like that
34:14that morning
34:15he got up
34:16to go get something
34:16to drink
34:17and that's when
34:18he noticed
34:18Jonathan had just
34:19came in.
34:21So
34:21where was Jonathan
34:23at
34:23that whole time?
34:27The answer
34:28would come
34:28from a surprising
34:29source.
34:30He had
34:31a five-year-old daughter
34:33who had to be
34:34interviewed about
34:35what may or may not
34:36have happened
34:37that day.
34:37What she saw,
34:38what she didn't see.
34:39Because children
34:40are very observant
34:41and even though
34:41they don't know
34:41that they are
34:42seeing something
34:43that may be
34:45pertinent to
34:46an investigation,
34:47they only know
34:48what they see.
34:49It's very, very
34:49important that
34:50if you're going
34:51to interview
34:51a child witness
34:53that they're done
34:54with somebody
34:55who's been trained
34:56very specifically
34:56in how to interview
34:58children.
34:58And that involves
34:59things like
35:00maybe playing games
35:01with this child,
35:02putting this child
35:02at ease,
35:03having toys in the room,
35:05asking open-ended
35:06questions.
35:07because the last
35:09thing you want
35:09to do is lead
35:10a child.
35:11Children are
35:11naturally compliant
35:13with adults
35:13and so it is
35:15important to have
35:15a trained
35:16forensic interviewer.
35:17And they did.
35:20I don't think
35:21any adult could
35:21have been a better
35:22witness than this
35:22child was.
35:24She told a whole
35:25story that her
35:26dad said he was
35:26going on an adventure.
35:29It's going to be
35:29a long ride.
35:30They leave in the
35:31daytime and they
35:32come back late
35:32at night.
35:33And her dad said
35:34this could take a
35:37while.
35:38She said I'm
35:38sitting in the
35:39back with my
35:39other little sister
35:40and my dad's
35:41driving her and
35:42they asked where
35:43mom.
35:43Mom didn't come.
35:47This is the lane
35:48he stopped in and
35:49the little girl told
35:50the forensic
35:50interviewer, she
35:52said he parked in
35:53the middle of the
35:53road, which she
35:53thinks is the
35:54middle of a lane.
35:55It's kind of
35:55similar to a lane
35:56but it's very,
35:57this is the
35:57shoulder, very
35:58narrow.
36:00The description
36:01matched the
36:01exact point on
36:02the highway where
36:03her mother's body
36:04was dumped.
36:06She said in
36:07the interview
36:07that she remember
36:08her dad getting
36:09out of the car.
36:10He was being very
36:11careful not to get
36:12run over and he
36:13removed something
36:14from the back but I
36:15couldn't tell where
36:15it was and proceeded
36:17back to Humboldt,
36:17Texas and told the
36:19little girl he
36:19couldn't find the
36:20magic road they
36:20were looking for.
36:21She could be a very
36:22powerful witness and
36:24she certainly in this
36:25case turned it on
36:27its head.
36:27detectives are
36:49investigating the
36:50murder of Elizabeth
36:51Farrell from Texas,
36:53found strangled in a
36:55Louisiana swamp.
36:58Their prime suspect is
37:00Elizabeth's violent
37:01husband, Jonathan.
37:03Despite claiming he
37:04hadn't been to
37:05Louisiana for years,
37:07he was picked up on
37:08highway cameras near
37:09the Whiskey Bay dump
37:10site and his daughter
37:12confirmed they'd gone
37:13there.
37:14In listening to the
37:16child's forensic
37:17interview and then
37:18Jonathan's interview,
37:20the inconsistencies
37:21were vast.
37:22Jonathan advised that
37:23he was at the home for
37:25the majority of the day
37:26and the child definitely
37:28stated something
37:28different, the fact that
37:29they had all left the
37:30home on a big
37:31adventure.
37:33To watch that
37:33interview was
37:34heartbreaking.
37:35This little girl was so
37:36articulate and she
37:37even told us,
37:38sometimes my daddy gets
37:39mad at my mommy and
37:41she said, my daddy
37:42would fuss saying that
37:43you spend more time
37:44online with your friends
37:45than you do with me.
37:46You're always gaming.
37:48Based on the
37:48investigation and
37:49everything that we were
37:50able to learn, we
37:52were able to get
37:53enough probable cause
37:54and reach that level
37:55to make sure that we
37:56were able to obtain
37:57an arrest warrant.
37:59It was enough to get
38:00a judge to sign a
38:01warrant for second
38:02degree murder of
38:04Elizabeth Farrell.
38:09They arrested him
38:10over in Omo, Texas
38:11as what they call
38:11a fugitive from
38:12state of Louisiana.
38:15When I finally heard
38:16that they had
38:17arrested him, I was
38:18ecstatic.
38:19What he did to
38:20Elizabeth, it made me
38:22incredibly angry.
38:24All I wanted to do
38:25was walk up to that
38:25SOB and flap him
38:28across the face, but
38:30I let justice do its
38:32thing.
38:33Then, the
38:34investigation took
38:35another unexpected
38:37turn.
38:38So, while in jail
38:40in Texas, waiting to
38:43come here, he got a
38:46little diarrhea of the
38:46mouth.
38:46He befriended another
38:48gentleman that was in
38:51his jail.
38:52And the gentleman
38:53asked him, you know,
38:55what you in here for?
38:56And he said, murder.
38:58And he goes into detail
39:00about how he murdered
39:02Elizabeth.
39:04After interviewing his
39:05cellmate, detectives could
39:07finally piece together the
39:09final hours of Elizabeth's
39:10life.
39:13He is clearly somebody who is
39:15treating her as a
39:16possession and somebody he
39:17can abuse, he can control.
39:20So, it doesn't surprise me
39:21that the incident that leads
39:24to her death is when he goes
39:25through her phone, which of
39:27course is an invasion of
39:28privacy, and finds these
39:30messages that are enraging to
39:32him, that he thinks are a
39:33violation of his ownership of
39:35her.
39:35We learned through the
39:37investigation that on her
39:38phone, he possibly located
39:39some information that shows
39:41she was possibly being
39:43intimate with somebody else.
39:45Elizabeth had been
39:46exchanging messages with her
39:48online romance.
39:51He feels that because she is
39:53his possession, she can't
39:55leave him unless he says it's
39:56okay.
39:57So, I think he's got, in so
39:58many respects, the classic
40:00personality and thought
40:02processes of a domestic
40:03violence perpetrator.
40:06He had threatened her a
40:07hundred times.
40:08If she ever tried to leave
40:09and take the girls, he would
40:09kill her.
40:10And I think she was getting
40:11ready to start trying to
40:12leave, and that's when the
40:16worst that he could do
40:17happened.
40:19When she comes out of the
40:20bathroom, he comes in behind
40:22her and he grabs her and he
40:23chokes her.
40:24Jonathan did tell that
40:25jailhouse cellmate that he
40:27put her in a chokehold until
40:30she stopped reading or what he
40:32thought.
40:32And he said, she was dead.
40:36He laid her down, he let her
40:38go.
40:39He said, and then she like, she
40:40gasped for air.
40:42He said, I panicked.
40:43And that's when I started
40:44stomping on her neck, kicking
40:46her throat.
40:46What we think somebody's been
40:49injured, our first thought is
40:51we need to get help for them.
40:53And so there is something about
40:54that stomping, it's just that
40:56annihilation that is just
40:59particularly chilling.
41:01Once hearing the statements that
41:03Jonathan Ali made to the jailhouse
41:06cellmate, it all cooperated what
41:09the autopsy had found about the
41:11blunt force trauma, everything to
41:12her chest and to her upper body.
41:15When we looked at this case, we
41:17found some anomalies, and those
41:18anomalies were the injuries and
41:21the bruising around the head and
41:22neck.
41:22And so he actually admitted that he
41:24stomped on her neck.
41:26We find this again through the
41:27autopsy because the very delicate
41:30bones and the cartilage in that
41:31area may be crushed.
41:34And then the sick part about it
41:37all, he told this gentleman that
41:39once he did kill her, he had sex
41:42with her body and that he
41:45ejaculated on her face.
41:47And then once we got a hold to some
41:49phones he had, we found some stuff
41:50in the phone where he had pictures
41:53of and was Googling of sex with
41:56uh, with, uh, dead bodies.
41:59So he had, he was a sick person.
42:02He had some sick thoughts.
42:04This last act of having sex with
42:07her is a way to degrade her
42:10further.
42:11It is his last act of kind of
42:13domination control over her.
42:16I can't think of anything that
42:17would be more dehumanizing and more
42:19humiliating than, and to turn
42:21somebody into such an object.
42:23They're in a situation obviously now
42:24where they have absolutely no
42:25control over anything.
42:27Um, it's just, it's horrifying.
42:32Detectives uncovered more clues
42:34about why Jonathan Alley chose
42:35Whiskey Bay to dump his wife's body.
42:39He also made a comment to the inmate
42:43at the jail in Texas that he thought
42:46if he threw it in the swamps here
42:48in Louisiana, the alligator's
42:49when you have bodies of water that
42:55are high in alligator population,
42:57many offenders think that this is a
42:59great place to get rid of their
43:00evidence as the alligators will
43:02scavenge on the remains.
43:05However, in most cases,
43:06alligators are predators.
43:08They are not scavengers, meaning that
43:10unless they have live prey, they're
43:12usually not interested in what's in the water.
43:14I'm 66 years old, born and raised here.
43:19And I have yet to find one person
43:22that's ever been eaten by an alligator
43:24in the state of Louisiana.
43:27I mean, within 40 feet, I got alligators
43:29in my house.
43:30So, and they've never attacked me.
43:34Again, go back to his sick mind,
43:36you know, an alligator's gonna be
43:38a perfect scenario.
43:39He's gonna eat the body, and we're never
43:40gonna discover her, and they'll never
43:42know where she went.
43:43And he figured it'd be a good spot to go
43:45because nobody would catch him.
43:46Well, he found out that we were
43:48at the sheriff's office, knows a little
43:50something about that.
43:54Jonathan Allais was finally extradited
43:56to the state of Louisiana, where
43:58investigators attempted to interview him.
44:02It's been a long road, brother.
44:05It's been a long road.
44:06Yes, it has.
44:07Jonathan, this is exactly what I explained
44:09to you in the car.
44:10You have the right to remain silent.
44:11Anything you say can, we'll just get you
44:13into court of law.
44:13You have the right to talk to a lawyer
44:14and have him present with you while
44:15you're being questioned.
44:16You understand that?
44:17Yes, sir.
44:19And he immediately lawyered up on us.
44:21Then he said, not talking.
44:24And that was the last conversation
44:25we had with him was that night.
44:27Allais returned to the jurisdiction of his home state, Texas,
44:39where he pleaded guilty to the second-degree murder
44:42of his wife, Elizabeth.
44:44He struck a plea deal and was jailed for 35 years.
44:48The one time he told the truth, he had to save his ass,
44:53to say, hey, you know, I don't want to die
44:55in Louisiana prison.
44:56I can go over there in Texas and get a better deal,
44:59which turns out to be 35 years there versus life here.
45:03He thought of just himself and nobody else.
45:06For me personally, it can be kind of frustrating
45:08when pleas are given.
45:09However, in this case, it was the best-case scenario,
45:12him taking a plea and saving his children
45:15from having to go through a trial.
45:19As far as I'm concerned, it's an injustice.
45:23He is not serving what he should serve for what he did.
45:27He is evil incarnate, as far as I'm concerned.
45:32You know, you look around.
45:35Water, woods.
45:37What kind of death of death?
45:39A water grave.
45:40You know, you don't do animals that.
45:43He treated her like garbage, threw out in the swamp.
45:46That tells you right there what kind of person he is.
45:49And this was the burial he gave her.
45:52Mr. Ali thought that he could just throw her off his bridge
45:55and just wash his sins away.
45:56He washed his ass straight into prison.
45:59And that's where his final destination should be.
46:03I do miss her every single day.
46:06I wish I could talk to her every day.
46:08And then I wish she was still here.
46:10And Jonathan was gone.
46:14It's really that simple.
46:18Because you don't find people like that very often.
46:21A friend like that is completely priceless.
46:24I mean, it's just me.
46:27I wish I could see them.
46:45But I really didn't make this happen.
46:48Transcription by CastingWords
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