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00:00You agreed a deal in December 2023 to sell 49% of your family's hotel chain to Saudi Arabia's Sovereign Wealth Fund.
00:08What was the rationale for that deal with the PIF?
00:12Well, I decided because I had members of my family who had interest.
00:18When I first started the business in 1997, my father invested a bit of money.
00:26When my parents died, my sisters, I have five sisters, one Olga who works with me, the others didn't.
00:34They all inherited shares in the business and they had no involvement in the business.
00:40So they kept complaining about this.
00:44And so I thought I should find a way of taking them out.
00:50And so I'd seen there's some transactions in the market which were quite attractive.
00:55So I said to Rothschilds, who are my bank, let's see if there's anybody interested.
01:00And we sent out a teaser to about 20 companies.
01:05And PIF came back straight away and said, yes, we're interested.
01:08We're only interested if we can deal exclusively with you.
01:11We don't want to enter into an auction.
01:13So we sent them information.
01:16They made an offer which was attractive to us.
01:18And we went ahead and the negotiations took, I suppose, about six or seven months to come to completion.
01:26And so they invested, not only they bought my sister's shares, they invested money into the company as well,
01:36which significantly strengthened our balance sheet.
01:39And the money invested was really to enhance our growth capabilities.
01:48But we've also used it to catch up in our refurbishments programs, which were delayed by the COVID period.
01:56It was two years of basic survival for me.
01:58And they, of course, it raised our profile in the world, this deal.
02:09PIF are a long-term partner.
02:12They look long-term into future.
02:15We're a family business.
02:16And I have that same outlook.
02:19They're not a fund that comes in and out, you know, and wants to turn a profit in the meantime.
02:25And so they're the ideal partner for us.
02:29They're very good partners.
02:30Obviously, they've invested in a huge number of companies around the world, which we're one.
02:37And they're very supportive.
02:40And we work well together.
02:43Okay, so two years on, you'd say it's been a good arrangement.
02:47Yes, very good, yes.
02:48Okay.
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