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00:00Welcome to Real Talk, where we get hot, spicy, and to the drama.
00:04This is Samantha Drews, and today we are hanging out with Kiki Fragnoli.
00:09He is a Real Short OG, and we are going to be discussing his viral hits,
00:14How to Dump a Hockey Star, and The Cursed Alpha Spoon.
00:30All right, so Kiki, it's been how many years? Three years now?
00:43If we can count that.
00:44Yeah. Okay, I do have a question for you, though.
00:47Okay, let's hear it.
00:48I want to know first impressions, and I'll give one of my first impressions of you.
00:52Ooh, okay, so we have known each other for, you know, 900 days.
00:55A long time.
00:56Something like that.
00:57Something like that.
00:57In my first 1,000 days of knowing you, I would say I described you to someone more recently as being a person who can make things HD.
01:10So you're somebody who, if you walk into a room and the color is just bland, it's meh, you would enhance it immediately.
01:18So anything that you kind of do in your life is something that I would say galvanizes people.
01:23So it adds a spark, or a needed energy, or your ability to be a battery to other people is something that's probably been how I define you.
01:33I know it's been, like I said, three years, but you brought such energy and passion every day to set that I would say that's probably the most fitting description of you.
01:43Thank you so much for that. I'm going to go cry.
01:46No, thank you for that. I really appreciate you saying that.
01:48I would say my first impression of you, because we were on set together, again, like three years ago, and I remember you being the type of person that I always felt comfortable talking to.
01:58Like, you were someone that I knew, like, if I had any issues, that I could bring it up to you without any judgment.
02:03So I feel like you're the type of person who brings, like, a calm, like, safe energy to everyone around you.
02:13And that's something that I really admire and I really appreciate about you.
02:16Thank you for saying that.
02:17I remember one of the best memories I had with you was us sitting in some giant SUV, and we were playing music together, just jamming out for hours while they were setting up in between shots.
02:29And just singing in the car about as loud as possible with you was probably one of the more, I'd say, uplifting and core memories that I have of each other.
02:39Because we were in that car a lot, and it was pretty hot, and you always managed to just be a soothing presence in every situation.
02:47So, yeah, I know that's kind of a little tangent, but great seeing you.
02:50No, I mean, yeah, it's always great to see you, too.
02:52You were the first co-star I had for The Vertical Space, so it goes to show you, you know, where we're sitting right now, how many projects that you've probably done since the first one, July of 2022.
03:05And now, you know, sitting here together, it's very surreal.
03:11I think the path that you and I have taken is one that we should be proud of, one that we should be grateful for.
03:18And how great is it that you and I get to, you know, still do what we want to do after all this time.
03:26So, you know.
03:28I think it is almost time for us to have a phone call with a fan who really, really wants to talk with you.
03:36Very excited.
03:37Ooh, a fan, huh?
03:38Hello, Real Short.
03:41This is Kiki Frags here, and I am on the portion of the talk show where I'm going to be introducing a fan who has been waiting patiently to get to talk to Sammy and me.
03:52Let me introduce the one and only Catherine Smith.
03:56Catherine, how's it going?
03:58Hey, how are you?
04:00I'm good.
04:01I am good.
04:01Well, thank you so much for joining us today on Real Short's most exclusive talk show.
04:06So, I'm lucky to be the guest for today, and here with me is also the host, Sam.
04:12Sammy, say hi.
04:13Hi.
04:14Hello.
04:15So, you are in great company, and first and foremost, how are you doing today?
04:19I am a mixture between nervous and fangirling and trying to keep it together.
04:26Fangirling?
04:27I mean, I might be more nervous than you.
04:29What's going on?
04:30You hear my voice just crack?
04:31You're the man of the hour, the day, the year.
04:34You got a lot going on.
04:36Very honored to be here.
04:38I appreciate you saying that, and it means a lot that you're spending the time to come in and talk to me.
04:44For the most part, I do want to know, how did you hear about verticals and the vertical space to get to meet me in general?
04:52Just curious.
04:53I don't remember the first ad that I saw that hooked me in.
04:56I've gotten a lot of favorites, a lot of my actor favorites, and you happen to be one of them.
05:03Making me blush right now.
05:04Low-key obsessed.
05:06I'm trying not to fangirl here, but...
05:08No, you're...
05:10Low-key obsessed.
05:11Please.
05:11My head won't be able to fit through that door on the way out, so my face is getting really red right now.
05:16But, you know, besides me, there's so many other amazing and talented vertical men out there.
05:24They're terrific.
05:25You want to give me one of your crushes who, you know, I won't tell them, or maybe I will, so...
05:31Safe space, right?
05:31Safe space.
05:32Safe space.
05:33Judge Free Zone.
05:34Who do you got for me?
05:35Oh, man.
05:36That's so many.
05:36No pressure.
05:37No pressure.
05:38I have to give it to LCS, Luke Charles Stafford.
05:41Okay.
05:42I mean, he's special.
05:44I'll give it to you.
05:45He's...
05:45Nevin Tomic.
05:46I love him, too.
05:47Oh, I'm going to tell him that you said that.
05:50He's one of my buddies.
05:51I love him.
05:51He's a great guy.
05:52I love him so much.
05:54And he's very sweet.
05:55And when I comment on his Instagram posts, he always responds to everyone.
05:59Very sweet guy.
06:00He's as nice as he is handsome.
06:02And let me tell you this.
06:02He's really handsome.
06:04So, that just kind of goes to show you how good of a person he is.
06:08Those are just a few that I love amongst many.
06:12I have a lot.
06:13The list is long, but it's quality, not quantity.
06:18Let's hope I'm still up there.
06:20You're definitely there.
06:21Thank you, Catherine.
06:22Can I ask which show have you seen from Kiki?
06:25That's most memorable to me.
06:28The DILF one.
06:29Okay?
06:29I'm sorry.
06:30That is very, very memorable.
06:34That one's memorable to my parents, too.
06:37What?
06:38You had your parents watch that?
06:40No, no, no.
06:41It just happened to make the national news.
06:45That's a whole other story.
06:47I'm currently laying in bed.
06:48It's like 10 a.m.
06:49And I get a wonderful phone call from my mom.
06:52You know, I look over.
06:54It's just, you know, mom's cell.
06:56It's early in the morning.
06:57You don't think it's going to be anything major.
06:59You go and answer.
07:00Hey, mom.
07:00Good morning.
07:01How are you doing?
07:03We just saw you on the news.
07:04Oh, what?
07:05What?
07:06Kiki, do you know what a DILF is?
07:09They color it in my face.
07:12How mortified were you?
07:13Let's just say I didn't need my morning cup of coffee after that one.
07:16I was already awake.
07:17So, yeah.
07:18So, I'm glad that you know that one because my family loves that one, too.
07:23Sorry, mom.
07:23Sorry, dad.
07:26They find it funny.
07:27But they did have to put in Google what a DILF was because I didn't want to tell them.
07:32So, that one was special.
07:33The talent on DILFs, real quick, shout out to Tyler.
07:38Shout out to David.
07:40Shout out to Mariah.
07:41Shout out to Natalie.
07:43I'm trying to think whoever else I'm missing real quickly.
07:45Everyone was a superb cast member in that one.
07:48I think for how silly of a premise, how fun and goofy it was, I was surrounded by just
07:54talented people all throughout.
07:57So, you know, you picked a good one.
07:58You picked a picture of like goofy and, you know, and romance.
08:01Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
08:03So, you know, next question.
08:05Is there anything that you would like to know about me?
08:09Of course.
08:10So, I see that you're very outdoorsy or in nature.
08:12I live in New York, so I'm very city.
08:15You know, I did light digging because I want to kind of get to know you organically through
08:18this call.
08:19But you have kind of like an honor or an in for a firefighter.
08:26You're in several marathons.
08:29You're training to your Mr. Vermont USA.
08:34What kind of precipitated you into going into this this lifestyle arc?
08:39Because acting also is kind of you're portraying something else, but you also bring yourself
08:47into it.
08:47So what kind of precipitated you being in this nature type lifestyle?
08:52Does that make any sense?
08:53Yeah.
08:55So, you know, you kind of named a bunch of things that I'm currently doing in my life.
09:01And then you're also kind of bringing up the sense that I'm doing acting, which might
09:05be kind of hard to connect the two or where one originated.
09:09Where did the other one fall into it?
09:11I guess to just kind of back things up.
09:13Why did I become an actor?
09:14We'll break it up into two parts.
09:15Why did I become an actor?
09:16And why am I so outdoorsy and nature-esque?
09:20And why do I want to be so involved in the community?
09:22So the first part is I didn't know I wanted to become an actor.
09:25Never once did I ever think I was going to be the A word.
09:31An actor in Los Angeles, God forbid, who knows who wants to be around one of those?
09:38God, I joke, all actors out there.
09:42I'm kidding.
09:43We're all in this together.
09:44But no, I did not know.
09:47I thought I was going to go to law school.
09:48So I graduated with a biology degree, specializing in biochemistry for public health.
09:55And I really thought I was going to go to law school.
09:57I thought I was going to go to medical malpractice, something that was completely different than
10:01the standard of kind of going into a public health route and then going into public health.
10:07I kind of wanted to take the law side of it.
10:10And so I was also dating this girl at the time.
10:12And I just graduated college and I was going to move into a place in D.C. to be a little
10:18bit closer to said ex-girlfriend.
10:21And this is 2018.
10:24I study all summer after I graduate to go and take this entrance exam.
10:28And so right before I take this entrance exam, my said ex-girlfriend breaks up with me.
10:34I'm completely devastated.
10:37I didn't know what exactly what I was going to do.
10:39Here I am going to be moving into an apartment that's, you know, I'm not necessarily now excited
10:43for.
10:44And so my best friend from college at the time, his name's Ross.
10:47He always wanted to become an actor.
10:49He spent his last semester going to Tisch acting school and he was going to make it his thing
10:56where he's going to travel the end of summer to go to L.A. and fulfill this dream.
11:00And lo and behold, he ends up staying at my parents' place the day after my LSAT and, you
11:06know, two days after my ex-girlfriend breaks up with me and I tell him everything.
11:12I'm like, man, Ross, I'm so screwed.
11:15What am I going to do?
11:17Like, I'm not happy.
11:18Like what, what, what's going on?
11:20I'm having a quarter life crisis and I'm barely 22 and he gets kind of quiet.
11:25We're at our like local drinking home where both sharing beers and he gets kind of quiet
11:29and takes a sip and puts down his drink and looks at me and goes, move out with me.
11:34And I'm like, what?
11:35He goes, move out with me to Los Angeles, quit your job, get out of DC, don't go.
11:39So, and so lo and behold, I take his advice.
11:42I drop everything, move out to L.A. on a whim, still don't think I'm going to become
11:46an actor and looking at law schools, doing all that.
11:50And then finally, lo and behold, we, we, we find apartment together.
11:55I'm doing a bunch of odd jobs essentially for the first couple of months.
11:59I don't really know anyone.
12:00I'm just trying to make ends meet.
12:02I am starting to regret this decision case to lead that I made.
12:06Um, but lo and behold that I ended up getting a job as a personal assistant for some, um,
12:12studio that they normally hire out for merchandise and things like that for different shoots,
12:17commercial print, you name it.
12:18And there was one time that the, this band, the Rolling Stones coincidentally, um, yeah,
12:25this band, it's a pretty, pretty big one, um, shows up and they don't have their male
12:29models.
12:30Um, they don't, for whatever reason, either they didn't show up or I don't know what I
12:34have, whatever happens.
12:35But my boss talks to their manager being like, Hey, this kid, you know, can model, you should
12:40use him.
12:41And then points to me.
12:42And I'm like, looking at, I'm looking at her like, what are you talking about?
12:46I have no experience.
12:47And so they, they shoved me in front of the screen and I do my first modeling gig, no experience
12:53whatsoever.
12:53And like that kind of changed my life a little bit.
12:56Um, I know that's kind of a long tangent of how I became an actor, but more or less
13:00like it just kind of started snowballing and then like the vertical space kind of picked
13:04up a little bit.
13:05And then the second part is just me being outdoorsy and whatnot is, um, I'm very much
13:11a community guy.
13:11I know you said you're from New York.
13:13Um, my family's from the Northeast, um, from New York, Vermont, and we're, I'm Italian.
13:18So just being close with family and having that communal aspect is pretty important and
13:23advantageous to, to me.
13:24I don't think it's ever really left.
13:26So it's just who I am as, as a person, just to kind of put it shortly.
13:29But I know that's probably not the most easy, um, navigated answer.
13:35No, I love that.
13:35That's, I don't think straight line.
13:37I think I like to connect the dots, like you said.
13:39So that, that really did answer my question.
13:42Really fascinating, actually.
13:43How you, you know, some, some people in your position at that time, you were doing odd
13:51jobs, you were, you know, living with your friend, things weren't kind of looking up for
13:55you at that time.
13:57Uh, some people would just kind of give up and say, you know, screw it.
14:00Let me move.
14:00Let me be back home or let me, um, just go back to school and figure it out.
14:06But you stuck through it and it really paid off.
14:09Yeah.
14:10It just kind of, it's better that way.
14:12Kind of keep it expectations low and taking advantage of all the opportunities, but we do
14:16got to get going.
14:17And unfortunately that's all the time that we have for this show real quick.
14:21Can I say thank you to you guys and to real short for having me?
14:27Um, I'm just really honored to be here.
14:29Um, I know you got to go.
14:30So no, no, they, they're all giving thumbs up behind and in posts.
14:35So thank you for, for the shout out.
14:37We're going to do a quick little screenshot.
14:39Ready?
14:39Three, two, one.
14:42Beautiful.
14:43Thank you so much.
14:44It was wonderful meeting you.
14:45Thank you, Sammy.
14:46Of course.
14:46Wonderful meeting you, Catherine.
14:48I appreciate it.
14:49Thank you for your time, both of you.
14:50And thank you to real short, um, for having me here.
14:53I am just so honored.
14:54I didn't think this was going to happen.
14:56So, well, I'm congrats.
14:57I'm really, really happy.
14:58I'm happy that it was you.
14:59I hope you have a great day.
15:00And thank you so much.
15:03Oh, she's, she's sweet.
15:04So sweet.
15:06How lucky am I to, to get to talk to someone who's so close knit and, and wanting the best
15:13for me in the vertical space.
15:15That's unbelievable.
15:16I would love to see some episodes from you in a series out of the hockey space.
15:23Are we going to allow this to happen?
15:24What?
15:27That right there is my husband Levi Carlson.
15:30All right.
15:30Fun fact is I don't think I've ever had the same haircut in any real short production.
15:36Oh, it's nice.
15:37I love this cut.
15:39Oh, Haley's so pretty.
15:41This was filmed on my birthday, actually, this day.
15:43Really?
15:43Yeah.
15:43So Haley, like, went all out.
15:45Oh, she pregnant?
15:47I'm not going to say anything.
15:48Well, she just did.
15:50Yep.
15:50She's pregnant.
15:51Oh, cool.
15:51Can you already guess who's the not so nice person?
15:54Who's the good person?
15:55Who's the bad?
15:55Yes.
15:56I don't, her.
16:00Okay.
16:00You're right.
16:00She is the evil person.
16:02Oh.
16:03Fun fact.
16:04I was trying to get onto the ice so many times.
16:07There is a hockey scene.
16:09Okay.
16:10I used to play.
16:14This might be my favorite scene in the entire show, right off the bat.
16:21This is cruel.
16:26When we did this scene, nobody could keep a straight face.
16:29They had to run MOS because we all were just dying laughing.
16:34It's such a pretty shot, though.
16:36It is.
16:37Can we acknowledge that?
16:37It is beautiful.
16:38She's stunning, right?
16:40Girl.
16:41What?
16:42I know.
16:43I know.
16:43I know.
16:44I'm telling you, it is astronomically crazy of how many times I either don't answer her,
16:52avoid her, or just don't trust her within the first four episodes.
16:55Hayley did such a good job at, like, looking so vulnerable that sometimes I, like, would
17:01almost forget the line because I'm looking into her eyes and she's just, like, looking
17:04so distraught that I'd forget my own.
17:07Oh, yeah.
17:08Yeah.
17:08No, that happens.
17:09We've seen partners just so good.
17:10So good.
17:11You're like, I'm hypnotized.
17:13Yeah.
17:14But an uneducated orphan.
17:18The bad wave.
17:19This is it.
17:28How dare you?
17:30Renee.
17:32No.
17:33I finally signed.
17:34For three.
17:37That's a triple slap if I've ever.
17:39Hayley, if you're out there, way to hit him.
17:41Snaps to that.
17:43There was four slaps in that one.
17:45It was four, yeah.
17:46Hayley had three of them.
17:46Yeah.
17:47Yeah, yeah.
17:47And it was just, like, one and then.
17:51Okay.
17:51Okay.
17:52Okay.
17:56I just like the timing of it.
17:58No, it was great.
18:00I love how your character is so much not like you.
18:04It would show us, like, how great of a performer you are, honestly.
18:07Because you can play different types of characters.
18:10They've all been so different.
18:11Where I'm really happy that this character, although he might not appear like he's a good guy.
18:19I don't like him.
18:20Not many people do.
18:21No.
18:22He has his flaws.
18:23And I think I tried to show that to the best of my ability.
18:27So, I think it's been fun to kind of just highlight and show you the different aspects that I would try to portray for certain types of characters.
18:35Okay.
18:36Well, if you want to know what happens next, please make sure to go and watch How to Dump a Hockey Star on Real Short.
18:42Please.
18:43Check it out, guys.
18:43It's a good one.
18:44So, I hope you like it.
18:45Well, thank you so much, Kiki, for being here.
18:48Sammy, it was a pleasure.
18:50After all these years, it's like we picked it up right where we left off.
18:52Yeah.
18:52I just want to say thank you for you and, in real short, for giving me this platform and time, this facility, Crazy Maple.
18:59It's beautiful.
19:00If you guys ever have the chance, for my other vertical friends out there, do check it out.
19:04For those of you guys who are fans on this show, please keep on watching.
19:10There's only more and more vertical material that you're going to want to get hooked on.
19:14And I think that's more or less where I'm going to end it.
19:17But, Sam, thank you one last time.
19:20No.
19:20I just want to say, you know, from the bottom of my heart, it's great seeing you again.
19:23And hopefully we can do this again in future.
19:25Yeah.
19:25It's always so wonderful to talk with you, Kiki.
19:28So, hopefully we get to do a project together.
19:30We will.
19:30Should we take a selfie?
19:31I heard it's selfie time.
19:33Yeah.
19:44We'll see you next time.
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