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00:10This is The Daily Show with your host, Jon Stewart.
00:15Hey, welcome to The Daily Show.
00:39My name is Jon Stewart.
00:40We've got an unbelievable show for you tonight.
00:42Later on, we're going to be joined out here as Veterans Day is coming up by Representatives
00:47Chris Deluzio and Pat Ryan, co-chairs of the Democratic Veterans Caucus.
00:53They'll be out here in a little bit.
00:56Why not?
00:59They'll be showing us how to make their favorite dishes for Veterans Day.
01:08But let's start tonight.
01:12Let's start tonight's show with the big news out of Washington on the shutdown.
01:27By the way, tonight's show will be brought to you by I Can't F***ing Believe It!
01:36I Can't F***ing Believe It!
01:51For when the I Can't Believe It Edvard Munch scream emoji
01:55doesn't quite convey how much you cannot f***ing believe it!
02:10And what, you ask, is it?
02:14Well, it is the Democrats.
02:21You remember the Democrats.
02:23They shut down the government last month for a very particular reason.
02:30Any deal must secure the extension of the ACA tax credits.
02:34This is about my party saying enough is enough.
02:38Democrats will not back down.
02:40Do not stop fighting.
02:42We're in this fight until we win this fight because we know we're on the right side of this fight.
02:46It's literally life or death.
02:48So Democrats have three words for this.
02:51No f***ing way.
02:53Well, funny f***ing story.
03:10Yes, Charles Schumer's three words were no match for these five other words.
03:18Democrats cave on the shutdown.
03:20Excuse me?
03:23Cave on the shutdown?
03:25Huh?
03:27Not this forceful, young, authentic Democratic Party
03:32that hangs out down by the river
03:35and curses in what appears to be a cerulean blue blazer.
03:44And I say, in a f***ing way.
03:52No, they f***ing caved on the shutdown.
03:56Not even...
03:57Not even a full week removed from the best election night results they've had in years.
04:04Seven Democratic senators and an...
04:07Voted with their Republican counterparts to end the shutdown and reopen the government.
04:14And did they get their extended health care subsidies?
04:18Democrats wanted the deal to include extending subsidies for the Affordable Care Act.
04:23Instead, they got a promise to vote on it at a later date.
04:27I cannot f***ing believe it!
04:31You had the wind at your back.
04:35Election victories all over the country.
04:38The new Sydney Sweeney movie, Box Office Bupkis.
04:41Apparently, her new MAGA fan base didn't show up in droves to see a biopic
04:48about a lesbian professional boxer who overcomes domestic violence to live her truth.
04:54Who could have seen that coming?
04:59Democrats, you sold out the entire shutdown not to get what you wanted,
05:05but for a promise to not get what you wanted later.
05:12Where...
05:12Where in the art of war...
05:14Where...
05:16Hold on.
05:17Where...
05:18Where in the art of...
05:20Okay, here it is.
05:21I got it.
05:24Sun Tzu said,
05:26Never press your advantage.
05:30It's unseemly.
05:31Fighting's hard!
05:38How about a snack?
05:45I can't f***ing believe it.
05:48And by the way,
05:49what good does a promise of a Senate vote even do for you, Democrats?
05:56You don't control the Senate.
05:58Do you even know how this s*** works?
06:03Let's just say, for schnicks,
06:05that you managed to win a vote in the Senate,
06:08which you haven't done all year.
06:11Do you know what happens then?
06:13I mean, give me...
06:14Hold on one second.
06:15Give me the thing.
06:16I want to show you.
06:16I'm just a bill.
06:18Yes, I'm only a bill.
06:20And I'm sitting here on Capitol Hill.
06:26I can't stay mad at Bill.
06:30But the point is this.
06:32Let's say...
06:33Let's just say...
06:34You pass a bill out of the Senate
06:36that you don't control as Democrats.
06:39Guess what happens then?
06:42Now I go to the House of Representatives
06:44and they vote on me.
06:45Then go to the House of Representatives!
06:47But they don't vote on it
06:49because Democrats don't control
06:50the House of Representatives either.
06:53But let's live in your eight-senator fantasy land
06:56and you do.
06:58Let's say you somehow convince
06:59old Towelick McBabyface
07:01to hold that House of Representatives vote
07:06and you win that one as well.
07:09Guess what happens then?
07:10Well, then I'm off to the White House
07:15where I wait in a line
07:16with a lot of other bills
07:18for the president to sign.
07:22The president!
07:28Yeah, yeah.
07:30You get it past the Senate,
07:32you get it past the House,
07:33and then the president
07:34of the United States!
07:35Right?
07:37You remember him?
07:38This guy?
07:39The Obamacare is a disaster.
07:41Yeah, that f***ing guy!
07:43The Obamacare is a disaster guy.
07:45The guy who spent the weekend
07:47posting about how Barack Obama
07:49is collecting millions of dollars
07:51in royalties from Obamacare.
07:53A fact that Trump picked up
07:55from an eight-year-old satire article.
07:59Democrats,
08:01you gave up the only leverage you had
08:04without getting commitments
08:06from Trump or Mike Johnson.
08:10I cannot f***ing believe it!
08:17Surely someone in the party
08:19understands that offering a vote
08:22in the Senate without a commitment
08:24that it would pass
08:25or that the House would even take it up
08:28is an empty offer.
08:31Offering a vote in the Senate
08:32without a commitment
08:34that it would pass,
08:35without a commitment
08:36that the House would even take it up
08:38is an empty offer.
08:43This guy gets it.
08:47Tim Kaine.
08:49Tim Kaine.
08:50You don't see him
08:51as one of the eight voting yes.
08:54Virginia Senator Tim Kaine
08:55was a yes.
08:57I can't f***ing believe it!
09:01And for what?
09:04There's got to be someone
09:05in this party who understands
09:06what's at stake
09:07with these expiring subsidies.
09:09Senator Dean Shaheen!
09:11I had a meeting
09:12with some constituents last Friday
09:14when I was in New Hampshire.
09:15One was a man.
09:17He said,
09:17if I didn't have that insurance
09:19through the Affordable Care Act,
09:21I would not have gone to the doctor.
09:22I would not have gotten
09:23my cancer treated.
09:25And I would be dead by now.
09:26That's what this fight is about.
09:30Now that's somebody
09:31who's not going to roll over.
09:33That is somebody
09:34who has the moral clarity
09:36and she voted yes,
09:39didn't she?
09:40Jane Shaheen decided to vote yes.
09:42Yes.
09:42That was the most
09:55weirdly coordinated boo.
09:58Not only was it coordinated,
10:01here was the most beautiful part
10:04about that boo.
10:05It started at a low timber
10:07and then it grew
10:10and then a staccato.
10:12Ooh!
10:23F***ing Jane Shaheen!
10:25And you know,
10:27what she did that's almost worse,
10:30after a month of standing on principle
10:32because of the needs
10:34of her constituents,
10:35she now uses
10:37those same constituents
10:38as her cover for cowardice.
10:41When I talk to my constituents
10:42in New Hampshire,
10:43you know what they say to me?
10:44They say,
10:45why can't you all
10:46just work together
10:47to address the problems
10:48that are facing this country?
10:50Really?
10:51Even the cancer guy?
10:52He's saying that now?
10:53That's not what he was saying before,
10:55but now he's like,
10:56look,
10:56what I said earlier
10:57about wanting to live,
10:58I didn't know
11:00that the alternative
11:01was a spirited bipartisan cooperation.
11:03I was just thinking,
11:07I want lungs.
11:12And by the way,
11:15doing exactly
11:16what the Republicans wanted
11:17isn't working together.
11:19That's not working together.
11:21That's just doing what,
11:22oh, Mr. Sawyer and I
11:24worked together
11:25to paint this fence.
11:26No!
11:27He made you f***ing paint it!
11:29And then he just
11:32jumped in at the end
11:32and was like,
11:33we can't free Jim,
11:34it's not bipartisan!
11:36Yeah!
11:36That's what happened!
11:38You don't remember the book?
11:39That's what I...
11:40I didn't remember it either,
11:44but one of the writers...
11:44You might be wondering
11:48to yourself there,
11:49well, where's
11:49the Democratic leader?
11:51Mr. No F***ing Way Chuck Schumer
11:53during all this.
11:55Well, ladies and gentlemen,
11:56he is on your social feeds.
11:58Glasses in the ready position.
12:00Putting on a show!
12:01Democrats have been fighting
12:03to get the Senate
12:04to address the health care crisis.
12:07This bill does nothing
12:08to ensure that that crisis
12:10is addressed.
12:11I am voting no,
12:13and I will keep fighting.
12:14I don't f***ing believe this.
12:16And I mean that now literally.
12:18Chuck Schumer,
12:19your protestation
12:20be not believable.
12:22Look,
12:23either all eight senators
12:24who voted to capitulate
12:26coincidentally
12:28are not up for re-election
12:30in 2026,
12:31or Chuck Schumer
12:33worked behind the scenes
12:35to give in to the Republicans
12:37while still protecting
12:39vulnerable Democrats,
12:41including himself.
12:44You know,
12:44that's right.
12:47You know, humorously
12:49after the election,
12:50I mentioned
12:51to a couple
12:52of political analysts
12:52in the afterglow,
12:54post-coital,
12:55about how the Democrats
12:56were going to squander
12:58their hard-earned
13:00electoral victories.
13:01And I guess
13:02the question next
13:03for both of you
13:04is how will they squander it?
13:06How?
13:07How will they
13:08piss this away?
13:13You know,
13:14the only thing I love
13:14more than seeing my face
13:15on TV
13:16is seeing it
13:17on a webcam
13:17with no filters.
13:18Um...
13:19Talk about needing
13:22healthcare.
13:23My God.
13:27Is jaundice contagious?
13:29What the...
13:30But it's a fair question.
13:33How would Democrats
13:35piss this away?
13:36Apparently,
13:37they did it
13:38something like this.
13:39acting.
13:50This is a world-class
13:52collapse
13:53by Democrats.
13:55It would be like
13:56being up ten points
13:58with three minutes
13:59left to go
13:59in a game
14:00and still finding
14:01a way to miraculously
14:02lose it
14:03for the fourth time
14:04in just one month.
14:06for those of you
14:11who don't follow
14:12the New York
14:13football giants.
14:18Because let's say
14:19you value
14:20your time
14:20on this earth.
14:24This is a football team
14:25that on three separate
14:26occasions this season
14:27has blown games
14:28that statistically speaking
14:30based on their
14:30sizable leads
14:31vis-a-vis
14:32the amount of time
14:32left in the
14:33athletic contest.
14:34They had a 95%
14:36to 99%
14:37chance of winning.
14:38I refer you,
14:39for instance,
14:40to this win probability
14:41chart from Sunday's
14:42game against
14:43the Chicago Bears
14:43where you can see
14:44the New York Giants
14:45chance of victory
14:46climbs to 97%
14:49before they trip
14:50on their own dicks
14:51and fall down
14:56a flight of stairs.
14:56And again,
14:57I don't want to get
14:57to inside football here,
14:58but you're not
14:59supposed to do that.
15:00I have not
15:10had a good weekend.
15:14Now,
15:14for those of you
15:15who believe
15:15that professional sports
15:16and politics
15:17are an inept
15:18comparative,
15:20not only
15:21did the Democrats
15:22and Giants
15:23lose in the same
15:24I can't f***ing
15:25believe it manner,
15:27they sound
15:28the same
15:28doing it.
15:30It's natural
15:30and appropriate
15:31to feel deep
15:32disappointment.
15:33Disappointing,
15:34disappointing outcome.
15:35It was not the result
15:36many of us wanted.
15:37Want to get the results
15:38that you hoped for
15:38and came up short?
15:40It never feels good
15:41to come up short.
15:42We came up short
15:42and that was a tough one.
15:44You learn
15:44and you prepare
15:46to do better
15:46in the future.
15:47You're always learning
15:48and trying to be better.
15:49Well, not enough wins.
15:50Not enough wins.
15:51We will win!
15:53We will win!
15:54We will win!
15:57We won't rest!
15:59We won't rest!
16:10Inspired yet?
16:12So please,
16:14Democrats,
16:15I do not understand.
16:17Explain this to me
16:18like I eat
16:19with my feet.
16:21Why?
16:22How do you explain,
16:23though,
16:23to your constituents
16:24why it was worth it
16:25to put up this fight
16:26for so long
16:27when in the end
16:28you did not get
16:29your key demand?
16:30Because it wasn't working.
16:33It wasn't working!
16:34It wasn't working!
16:35It wasn't working!
16:35It wasn't working!
16:36It wasn't working!
16:36It wasn't working!
16:37It wasn't working!
16:38It wasn't working!
16:38It wasn't working!
16:40First of all,
16:41how are we being ruled
16:42by the only
16:43old people
16:45who don't stubbornly
16:47cling to shit
16:48whether it's working
16:48or not?
16:51That's the whole point
16:52of being an old person!
16:54What kind of an old person
17:00are you?
17:01Well, maybe it is time
17:03to give up
17:04my driver's license.
17:06I mean,
17:07to be fair,
17:09I am a menace.
17:13And second of all,
17:15it was working!
17:17It was working!
17:19Never!
17:21Never!
17:24Never!
17:25has the gap
17:27between this administration
17:29and the people
17:30it claims to serve
17:32been so disgustingly visible
17:35than during this shutdown.
17:38This week,
17:39while the Trump administration
17:41was at the Supreme Court
17:43demanding that the court
17:45let them withhold food stamps
17:47from hungry Americans,
17:49Trump himself
17:50was at Mar-a-Lago
17:52with an all-you-can-eat
17:53shrimp
17:54and synchronized
17:56swimming buffet
17:57while the president
17:58of Argentina
17:59danced the night away
18:01securing the $20 billion
18:03we recently gave
18:05his country.
18:06And I gotta say,
18:08for $20 billion
18:09you'd think
18:11he'd dance better
18:12than
18:15leprechaun
18:16jerking
18:17elephants.
18:17By the way,
18:37apologies to the elephant.
18:39I am not trying to disrespect.
18:45There's probably an elephant
18:51watching that
18:51going like,
18:52who's,
18:52whoa,
18:53what kind of an elephant,
18:56dick?
19:03Point is this,
19:04don't get distracted!
19:08Americans were finally
19:09seeing the gap
19:11between how Donald Trump
19:13bends reality
19:14and actual
19:15day-to-day reality.
19:17This shutdown
19:18has focused
19:19America's attention
19:20away from his gift
19:22for distraction
19:23and on to stark
19:25actualities
19:26and seeing through
19:28many for the first time
19:30his bald-faced lying.
19:32Can you just answer
19:33that question
19:33that tariffs
19:33have led to inflation,
19:35they have led to an increase
19:36in cost of living
19:37for most Americans?
19:38We have no inflation.
19:39We have no inflation.
19:40Except that we have
19:41inflation!
19:43And normally,
19:44we have no inflation
19:46goes the way of
19:47they're eating
19:47the cats and dogs
19:49and I'm suing
19:50Rupert Murdoch
19:50because I'm not
19:51on the Epstein list
19:52and all of the other lies
19:53that Trump deploys
19:54in his reality distortion
19:56arsenal.
19:57But miracle of miracles
19:58during the shutdown.
19:59The old songs
20:00ain't hitting
20:01like they used to.
20:02Football fans
20:03loudly booed
20:04as Trump was shown
20:06on the Jumbotron
20:06during halftime
20:07at the Lions
20:08and Commanders game.
20:10I am seeing your name
20:13Do you know
20:29how f***ing unpopular
20:31you have to be
20:32to be booed
20:33by football fans
20:34while swearing in troops?
20:36And by the way,
20:38not just any football fans.
20:39Football fans
20:40who still use
20:41the term Redskins.
20:43And not even
20:44with respect to the team,
20:46just casually.
20:50This is what the Democrats
20:51have squandered.
20:53A country
20:53finally shaking off
20:55Trump's
20:55Jedi mind tricks
20:57and saying,
20:58no, these are
21:00the f***ing droids
21:01we're looking for.
21:03And instead of
21:04pressing that advantage,
21:05perhaps neutralizing
21:07Trump's reality
21:07distortion field
21:08for good,
21:09the Democrats
21:09just suddenly went,
21:11uh, droids?
21:12I guess we aren't
21:14looking for those droids.
21:16But you'll help us
21:17find them later,
21:18right?
21:20They squandered
21:21their leverage,
21:23sapped their voters'
21:24enthusiasm,
21:24and snatched defeat
21:26from the jaws
21:27of victory.
21:30And it's just
21:31too bad
21:31that we are now
21:32stuck
21:33with these leaders
21:34that we have
21:35on that side.
21:36And there's nothing
21:37that can be done
21:38about it.
21:39This just in.
21:39The New York Giants
21:40have just fired
21:41head coach
21:42Brian Gabel.
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21:54So you're saying
21:57there's a chant.
21:59When we come back,
22:00Congressman Chris DeLuzio
22:01and Congressman Pat Ryan
22:02will be joining us.
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22:17Welcome back to the program
22:18tonight.
22:18My guests
22:19are Iraq War veterans
22:21who now serve in Congress
22:22and are members of the
22:23House Armed Services Committee
22:24who's welcome to the show
22:25representatives Chris DeLuzio
22:26of Pennsylvania
22:27and Pat Ryan of New York.
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22:43Welcome to the program.
22:45Thank you for coming.
22:47We wanted to have you guys on.
22:48It's Veterans Day is tomorrow
22:49and we wanted to see you guys.
22:51Uh, uh, I did also, I'd be remiss
22:53by asking you guys, uh, the Senate
22:57caved the House.
22:58Democrats did not.
23:00No.
23:09Is there any kind of, I don't know
23:10where you guys connect in the, whatever,
23:13Representative's Gym or any of that kind of thing,
23:15like, when you walk by Schumer, is there ever any,
23:19you know, poofy!
23:20You know, any, I don't know.
23:24So maybe a little more this week.
23:26All right.
23:26Yeah.
23:27How, now, the House has not been
23:30in session at all since the shutdown.
23:33It's been, like, seven, seven weeks.
23:35Pathetic.
23:36Have you guys spent your time in Washington
23:38or just back in your districts?
23:39Back and forth.
23:40And we're on the Armed Services Committee.
23:41So we've had some work to do down there.
23:43But we haven't had votes since the middle of September.
23:45No votes.
23:46No votes.
23:46And, you know, the big, obviously,
23:47the conspiracy theory is, oh, Mike Johnson
23:50doesn't want to swear in, uh, the Representative
23:52who, uh, was from Arizona, because that's the vote
23:56that, uh, makes it so that they have to then vote
23:59on releasing the-the Epstein files?
24:02Is that... I mean, that's...
24:03...
24:06Or-or is that-is that plaw-
24:08You don't have to answer this.
24:10100%.
24:11It's plausible.
24:12More than plausible.
24:14They're waiting to run out the clock.
24:15There's another special election happening in Tennessee.
24:18And if that guy gets sworn in with Adelita Grijalva
24:21from Arizona, then it neutralizes the numbers.
24:24So they are running...
24:25Yes.
24:26Agree. Agree to that.
24:27Great response.
24:28You guys are like...
24:30Love it.
24:31...some sort of weird, old-timey Greek chorus.
24:34They're like...
24:36It's like, you know, a Peanuts cartoon,
24:39where every now and then you cut to the audience,
24:40and they're like, yay!
24:42Boo!
24:44Yeah, they're not going to do anything.
24:46All right.
24:49I-I won't... Let me ask you this.
24:52How surprised were you?
24:55How taken off guard were-were you
24:57by the developments of this weekend, uh, from the Senate?
25:01Did-did it take you off guard?
25:03I wish I could say it did.
25:05And yet, I think this is what we've come to expect
25:07from this leadership
25:09and from what the Senate's been doing.
25:11They did not stand their ground.
25:13And it's a deal that...
25:14I think it's a bad deal.
25:16I think it's weak.
25:17It-it doesn't even seem like a deal.
25:19It seems like a nothing.
25:21No, it's... It's pathetic.
25:22It is.
25:23I mean, I literally have folks in my district
25:25getting, uh, letters in the mail.
25:28Their premiums are doubling, tripling.
25:31And-and they are, like...
25:33Folks understand, actually, what's happening.
25:35I've had many folks just last weekend home say,
25:38thank-like, hold your ground.
25:39Right.
25:39Hold your ground.
25:40We know this is hard.
25:41We know it's complicated.
25:42But we-we literally cannot afford to pay triple.
25:45I mean, it's already way too high as it is, so...
25:47And what gives them any confidence
25:50that the Republicans will all of a sudden go, like,
25:52oh, okay, you re-opened it.
25:53So now we're gonna reach across the aisle
25:55in bipartisan agreement.
25:56They haven't done it once.
25:57Uh, they've run the table.
25:59You know, 74, 75 million Americans
26:02voted for the Democrats.
26:03They have zero representation in Senate, House, Judiciary, and Executive.
26:09You guys in the House, it's the closest that I can remember it being,
26:13and yet you're not allowed to bring up any votes.
26:16Don't have any committee chairmanships.
26:19It's unconscionable.
26:20And there's not even an agreement to have a vote in the House.
26:23Even if they had this agreement, there was gonna be a vote in the Senate,
26:26and it somehow passed, there is nothing making Mike Johnson
26:29give us a vote on that to extend the tax credits.
26:32None of it.
26:33To me, I mean, that on its own tells you this is a weak deal
26:35for something we were fighting for our constituents
26:37and their health care.
26:38And I think we both learned, me and the Superior Service of the Army,
26:42uh...
26:43The Navy guy.
26:44Him and the Navy.
26:45You have no idea what was going on backstage between these days.
26:48We got, we got Army giving me swag on Army.
26:51We got Navy giving me swag on Army.
26:52I turn around, no geese, headlocks.
26:54It was terrible.
26:57We both learned, when in charge, take charge.
26:59Right.
27:00And I strongly disagree with everything
27:02that the Republicans are doing,
27:04but at least they understand when you have power, use it.
27:07Right.
27:08Now, they're using it for evil.
27:09They've used their leverage.
27:10They're using it truly for evil.
27:11Right.
27:12But we have to understand.
27:13I think we get this.
27:14A lot of our younger colleagues, frankly, get this.
27:16When in charge, take charge.
27:18Like, let's be clear what we're against,
27:21but also make clear what we're gonna fight for...
27:23Right.
27:24...when we're back.
27:25And when, it's gonna be when,
27:26when we're gonna be back in charge.
27:28I don't doubt that for a second.
27:30The...
27:34What astonishes me,
27:35I think the space was created for Donald Trump
27:38because of the disconnect between
27:40the sort of insulated world of Washington,
27:43the disconnect between the lawmakers
27:46and the needs of the people they purport to represent.
27:48I think that gap is what allowed his rise,
27:52that dissatisfaction.
27:54To see these folks in Senate leadership
27:58not understand that.
28:00Honestly, I think it might be the most shocking part
28:03of, of this equation.
28:05And, and...
28:06Does the leadership in the House understand that?
28:08Are you...
28:09Do you deal with the Senate at all?
28:10Look, our states are both different, right?
28:13And so there's some of it.
28:14Pennsylvania and New York.
28:15Pennsylvania and New York.
28:16But both swing states.
28:17You guys are not in deep blue areas.
28:20Our districts now...
28:21No.
28:22...we're most competitive, yeah.
28:23Right.
28:24The majority in the House runs through
28:25whether we can hold and win in these districts,
28:26and we do.
28:27And by the way,
28:28we know how to win in tough districts.
28:30Yeah.
28:31But...
28:32They're...
28:34The theory of their case,
28:36as far as I can tell,
28:37is people like you will lose
28:39if you stand your ground on principle.
28:41That you have to be the so-called moderate centrist
28:45that is gonna reach across the aisle,
28:47not realizing they didn't reach across the aisle,
28:49they surrendered across the aisle.
28:50Yeah.
28:51I don't know any constituents of ours
28:52that want us to just wilt.
28:54They want us to stand our ground
28:55for something that matters.
28:56Right.
28:57And our healthcare of our region and yours,
28:58like, people's healthcare is a real thing
29:00that is bankrupting families.
29:02They're gonna roll the dice
29:03on buying a...
29:05Paying for a policy they may not be able to afford.
29:07Right.
29:08Or maybe showing up in the emergency room
29:09because they skipped out on healthcare.
29:11Right.
29:12That is something they want us to fight for.
29:13And we have been.
29:14And to see what happened on the other...
29:15The other side in the Senate is just...
29:16It's...
29:17It's weak.
29:18And I think, like, there's this old theory
29:21of left, right, progressive, centrist, moderate.
29:25It's bullshit.
29:26Yeah.
29:27People wanna know,
29:28are you gonna actually fight for me...
29:30Right.
29:31...when it matters, or are you gonna cave?
29:33And that is the thing that matters,
29:35especially in this moment.
29:36But the folks that have been in the bubble of D.C.
29:38for longer than some of us have been around,
29:41uh, they don't...
29:43Longer than even I've been around.
29:45Yeah.
29:46I'll be honest with you,
29:47I could go down there and kick their asses physically.
29:50Well, and...
29:51Many of them are hollow like birds.
29:54I...
29:55If you will allow me.
29:57I think...
29:58Please.
29:59And you have.
30:00And I actually, like,
30:01coming into Veterans Day tomorrow...
30:02Yeah.
30:03I just wanna, like, personally,
30:05your fight for the PACT Act,
30:07you came down and destroyed Ted Cruz.
30:11Just...
30:12Shamed...
30:14Shamed those Republicans.
30:17And I'm telling you, I had not...
30:19Both of us had toxic exposures in our service.
30:21Oh, really?
30:22And I had not gone to the VA for over a decade.
30:26And when the PACT Act finally passed...
30:28Oh, wow.
30:29It... it... it really meant a lot to me.
30:31It meant a lot to, you know, a million veterans signed up after that bill.
30:34And I'm telling you...
30:35That makes me so happy.
30:36It would not have happened without you.
30:37It's a fantastic program.
30:38Yeah.
30:39And are they...
30:40And thank you both for...
30:41For signing up for that duty, because that's the thing.
30:44And veterans, I think, understand this in a way that maybe some of the legislators don't.
30:49Because when you guys came home, the idea that you had to fight for benefits that you had earned, a lot of Americans are all of the sudden realizing, oh, shit, the government is antagonistic, not just agnostic to my needs, antagonistic.
31:08And that's something that I think I found with the veteran communities, it was really dispiriting for them.
31:15And I don't know if you guys felt that way, but that the government's antagonistic.
31:17Well, and look, it's not just...
31:19It's tough to get into the VA, and the PACT Act made that better.
31:22And I echo what Pat said.
31:23Thank you for your work to help make it happen.
31:25You know, a lot of politicians who voted to send guys like us to places like Iraq, spending trillions, all of a sudden, want to count pennies when it's time to care for the veterans they sent to fight.
31:35Man.
31:36And, you know...
31:38That's just wild.
31:40And it's...
31:41Look, it's a lot of the politicians we are battling with now in Washington, right, are people who wrap themselves on the flag.
31:47And they're, you know, the chicken hawks and the draft dodgers who vote for a war and then won't vote to fund the health care for the guys they sent to fight.
31:54That's who we're up against.
31:56It's wild.
31:57It must be frustrating.
31:58So...
31:59And this is interesting for you guys because you are in those swing districts.
32:03You guys are...
32:04The idea that somehow Democrats have to prove their love of country versus this sort of paper patriotism that I see on the right.
32:15It's performative oftentimes.
32:17And the idea that the onus is on you guys, do you feel that as well?
32:23I mean, I think people on the right who we run against and who fund elections against us would have that.
32:30I know both of us, we take no lecture for anyone who, number one, tried to overthrow the government on January 6th.
32:36Right.
32:37Okay?
32:38Sure.
32:39I mean...
32:40A little blip, a little blip.
32:41Which the vast majority of them did.
32:43Right, right.
32:44And we serve with people who I think are oath breakers, who are part of trying to overthrow the Constitution.
32:48Right.
32:49There's a guy in Pennsylvania, a member of Congress, who was central to that scheme, voted against certifying the results in Pennsylvania.
32:55A congressman named Scott Perry, who went on some radio interview and said that Democrats hate the military.
33:00Said the guys and gals who served who then go into elected office did it for just a credential.
33:04He's an oath breaker.
33:05So we don't take a lecture from patriotism on guys like that.
33:08No way.
33:09Let me ask you a question.
33:12When you're on the retreat for Pennsylvania House of Representatives lawmakers and you guys are in the tents at night.
33:25Does that...
33:28How personal does this get?
33:31Is it hard...
33:32When you have somebody that's saying something like that along you, and your feelings about that are clear, how personal have these divisions gotten?
33:42I think probably in olden days, you'd, you know, have a scotch and work it out.
33:45Well, I decided I'm going to the guy's district holding a press conference and telling him I'm coming for a seat.
33:50So that's the way to run.
33:53Now, let's get to some of the priorities.
33:56I'm fascinated now that, you know, so much of the talk about these programs, whether it be SNAP program or these things that, for the most part, are people that work jobs or are elderly or are disabled or are children.
34:11And veterans.
34:12And veterans.
34:13The vast majority are that.
34:15There's a very small percentage, some say 5%, 6%, of able-bodied Americans who are getting these things.
34:22But we don't know what their situation is.
34:23They could be felons who have trouble getting work.
34:25Whatever it is, that seems to be for them the core of their, this is the tragedy of this country, is these moochers.
34:34And this is the waste, fraud, and abuse in America.
34:37And this is what we have to stop.
34:39Yet they hand a trillion dollars to a defense department that's never passed an audit.
34:44And the rank and file, that you guys know this, suffer from oftentimes food insecurity themselves that are serving in the military.
34:51How the does that compute?
34:53It doesn't.
34:54It doesn't.
34:55For veterans, we have tens of thousands of active duty service members and millions of veterans on SNAP, food stamps, right now in the United States of America, number one.
35:07Number two, as we speak, the president of the United States is actively suing in the Supreme Court to block food going to those veterans and 42 million Americans, one in eight people.
35:22Yeah, it's...
35:23And they're the patriots?
35:24Yeah.
35:25They're the ones that stand up for liberty and justice for all?
35:28It is bullshit.
35:29Yeah.
35:30It is complete bullshit.
35:31The whole thing is so mind-boggling.
35:34How...
35:35What is the pressure?
35:37You know, in terms of that military budget, like, what is the...
35:40Where does the pressure come from?
35:41Is it defense contractors?
35:43Who is it that lays the hammer on everybody to get these things through?
35:47Well, look, there's very little competition.
35:49There used to be 51 prime defense contractors back in the 90s.
35:52There were five now.
35:53Five?
35:54Five.
35:55Okay, and I could say...
35:56We could spend the whole night talking about different ways we get gouged.
35:58Let's take the C-17, okay, transport aircraft.
36:01Sure.
36:02Soap dispensers.
36:03The report that we saw, 7,900% markup on soap dispensers.
36:08Okay, so imagine what happens with everything else.
36:10I have flown on a C-17.
36:13My hands were never cleaner.
36:16But you multiply...
36:17Think about the cost that we are all paying for that.
36:19Here's the crazy thing about a C-17, and you guys know, like, it's this giant cargo plane, and you fly in it, and there's no...
36:26Like, they didn't put up paneling, like, sound.
36:28No.
36:29Like, we went on a USO tour in a C-17, and they were like, you know, bring a winter coat and shorts.
36:35Like, they said the weather changes in a C-17 depending on the altitude you're at.
36:40I never even knew you could actually use the bathroom in a C-17.
36:43Like, I never had.
36:44What were you doing?
36:45I held it.
36:46No, I mean, but you hit on something else, though, John, which is that it is a corrupt system.
36:51Yes.
36:52There are...
36:53These five companies have tremendous power of their purse, after Citizens United in particular.
37:00They pour money in, and both of us have refused to take corporate PAC money for this exact reason.
37:07And...
37:08And it puts you to disagree.
37:10What?
37:11It doesn't, though.
37:12Honestly, it doesn't because, one, we can both sleep at night and know we're doing the right thing,
37:17but, two, our constituents actually understand how corrupt the system is.
37:20Right.
37:21And they want leaders that are going to actually stand up to that.
37:24So, when...
37:25I mean, I actually remember in the Armed Services Committee, two years ago,
37:28the F-35 jet program is probably the biggest boondoggle of my lifetime.
37:32But it's 1.7 trillion, something like that.
37:34It's insane.
37:35And their operational readiness rate is, like, 30%.
37:38And so, a bunch of us younger members, and it was actually, it was bipartisan,
37:43uh, all veterans who had served, were saying, this is crazy.
37:47We have to get leverage on Lockheed Martin, who's the company.
37:50Uh, the amount of, like, swarm of lobbyists that descended on us as we tried to ram through this amendment,
37:58and we didn't succeed in getting it through because we just got overwhelmed.
38:02Now, we've continued the fight, but that's just one example.
38:05Now, what was the amendment, uh, attempting to do?
38:07So, it was specifically saying, and this is the crazy part,
38:10we pay them trillions of dollars, and Lockheed Martin keeps the intellectual property
38:15for the stuff that our tax dollars pay for.
38:18So, all the amendment did was say, we're paying you an ungodly amount of money.
38:21Oh, Jesus!
38:22We Americans should own the intellectual property that we're paying you for.
38:26And that was not able to be passed through.
38:29I mean, this is...
38:30It's like the worst episode of Shark Tank ever.
38:33What do I get for the trillion...
38:36I'm asking for a trillion dollars for my company, and you don't get anything?
38:40Yeah, yes.
38:41You get planes that don't actually work, and you don't own them.
38:44And, like, this problem is a...
38:46It plays out on a bunch of systems and you name it,
38:48where the troops can't even fix their own stuff because of these contracts,
38:52where it's got to be repaired by the company or their subcontractor.
38:56It costs the public a lot of money.
38:58It hurts readiness for the troops because they, again,
39:00they can't fix stuff that they would know how to do because of these contracts.
39:04So this Veterans Day coming up, instead of anything performative,
39:09what do you want to say to the American people?
39:11What do you ask of the American people for those that have been brave enough
39:17to sign up, to take that oath, to do that, those who are doing it actively,
39:21and those who have done it in the past?
39:23What would you say?
39:24Look, stand solid for a strong and funded VA that is there to take care of veterans
39:29for care that we have all earned, for those benefits that we've earned.
39:32Let's make sure the VA is strong and there for veterans all over the country.
39:35Right.
39:40Agree with that.
39:41And I have to say, Trump ran on supporting and helping veterans,
39:49and on ending the forever wars, right?
39:53He has done the 180-degree opposite.
39:56He has fired 80,000 people at the VA.
39:59In my own VA, 20 beds closed that deal with mental health crisis
40:04and addiction recovery closed that we've been fighting for to get reopened.
40:09And that happened, I know, in Pittsburgh.
40:12It happened around the country.
40:14And then, I think the most serious thing I would say to the country is,
40:17don't send our most precious resource, our young men and women...
40:21Yep.
40:22...into harm's way on some chicken-hawk BS from a five-time draft dodger
40:29who does not understand what selfless service means whatsoever,
40:33and hold them accountable for that.
40:36I'm going to feel the better myself.
40:38Gentlemen!
40:40Representative Pat Ryan!
40:41Representative Chris Deluzio!
40:42We're going to take a great break.
40:44We'll be right back after this.
40:45Yes.
40:46Hey, everybody, that's our show for tonight.
41:02But before we go, we're going to check in with your host for the rest of the week,
41:05Mr. Josh Johnson!
41:06Josh!
41:09It's Josh Johnson!
41:11Uh, Josh Johnson, what do you got planned for us for the week?
41:15Well, we will be diving into more of these crazy airplane cancellation stories.
41:20They say that even after the shutdown ends, it could take weeks to get back to normal.
41:24And, I mean, if this isn't fixed soon, then...
41:28who will I spend Thanksgiving with?
41:41Well, Josh, I'm sure it's going to be fixed.
41:44Instead of just a couple of weeks.
41:47You're probably not going to have to worry about it, so I...
41:50Yeah, but what if it's not?
41:52I mean, I'll need to find someone local to spend...
41:56Give me your hand.
41:57...spend Thanksgiving with maybe one of my lovely Daily Show co-workers.
42:05All right, you can come to my house for Thanksgiving if you want.
42:15That's...
42:16Your house?
42:18Jewish people do Thanksgiving?
42:20Yeah, look, you do, you, you're not going to have ham, though.
42:25No, we're not going to have ham.
42:27No, I was talking about Ronnie Chang.
42:29I heard he got good poo, everything.
42:31I was hoping you could ask him for me.
42:34Because he can't say no, you're his boss.
42:36All right, I'll do my best.
42:37Josh Johnson, everybody!
42:39Here it is, your moment is in!
42:41What?
42:42Dr. Oz said that millions of...
42:43Who?
42:44Dr. Oz.
42:45There are millions of phantom employees under the ACA.
42:50Is that being looked at as it possibly makes it so that people that are on the ACA
42:56are more simplating the number?
42:58That's like the most random way to start a question on a serious topic.
43:04Nobody who's serious in this country takes Dr. Oz seriously.
43:09No one.
43:10Sorry.
43:11Sorry.
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