A UE arrisca-se a "perder credibilidade" se não conseguir alargar, alerta Montenegro

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A UE arrisca-se a "perder credibilidade" se não conseguir alargar, alerta Montenegro  Montenegro é um dos principais candidatos à adesão à UE e espera concluir as negociações de adesão com Bruxelas no próximo ano. A falha em garantir a adesão do país pode prejudicar a credibilidade da UE e enviar um "sinal horrível" a outros candidatos, alerta o seu vice-primeiro-ministro.  LEIA MAIS : http://pt.euronews.com/2025/11/10/a-ue-arrisca-se-a-perder-credibilidade-se-nao-conseguir-alargar-alerta-montenegro  Subscreva, euronews está disponível em 12 línguas.

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00:00Minha guest é Filip Ivanovic, ele é o DEPEPP Prime Minister

00:13para os EUA e associações do Imposto na Universidade do Montenegro

00:17e, após ser a smallidade de todos os países que desejam dressing o EU,

00:22ele é considerado um frontrunner e é bastante amplia para ser o primeiro Código dos EUA.

00:29Deputy Prime Minister,

00:30bem-vindo ao 12 Minutes With.

00:31Obrigado por nos reunir no Euronews.

00:33Obrigado por ter me e por falar sobre Montenegro.

00:35Bem, vamos falar sobre Montenegro.

00:37Como eu disse, o menor,

00:39mas o mais avançado no seu caminho

00:42para ser um membro de EU.

00:43E você acabou recebido

00:45um abençamento da Comissão da Européia,

00:47dizendo que se você mantém

00:49com esse tipo de reformas,

00:51você está no caminho para se juntar

00:53na próxima três anos.

00:54Conte-nos, então, o que é o secreto

00:57para o sucesso de Montenegro?

01:00Bem, primeiro de tudo,

01:00eu vou te dizer que o reporte

01:02que nós recebemos

01:04é um adicionado evidência

01:07do plano que nós, como governo,

01:09temos que ter todos os reportes

01:11melhor do que os primeiros.

01:13Então, no ano passado,

01:15nós tínhamos o melhor reporte

01:17até então,

01:18e agora, este é o melhor reporte de novo,

01:20então, é evidência

01:23do trabalho muito duro do governo

01:25de Montenegro,

01:26mas não só do governo,

01:27mas também do outras

01:28instituições politicas no país.

01:30Mas também é uma introdução,

01:33eu diria,

01:34a uma conferência muito sucessiva

01:35intergovernmental conferência

01:37que vamos ter no final de este ano,

01:39onde vamos fechar vários capítulos.

01:41E, por outro lado,

01:42é, digamos,

01:43um brilho de o que precisamos fazer

01:46nos próximos 12 ou 13 meses

01:48para se reconhecer nosso objetivo

01:50de terminar as negociações

01:51e para terminar todos os capítulos

01:52até o final de 2016.

01:54Então, eu diria que

01:55o político dedicação

01:58e o trabalho

01:59são os principais

02:02de este sucesso.

02:04Se você tiveram esse objetivo,

02:06e você está abençando

02:07the EU,

02:08around January 2028,

02:09as you aim to do,

02:11it will be 20 years

02:13since you first applied

02:14for EU membership.

02:16Do you feel

02:17that the process

02:17has been

02:18too demanding?

02:20Do you feel

02:20it's been

02:20too burdensome

02:21on you

02:22as a country?

02:23It's not an easy question

02:24because, of course,

02:25it depends

02:26in what period

02:27of time

02:28you make this question.

02:29So, indeed,

02:30we have been negotiating

02:31for the past 13 years

02:33and for many years

02:35the whole process

02:36was,

02:37I wouldn't say

02:37too demanding,

02:38but it was too technical.

02:40There wasn't

02:41any political will

02:42from the side

02:42of the EU member states

02:43to continue

02:46with the substance

02:46of enlargement.

02:48However,

02:48this has changed

02:49in the past three years.

02:50I would say

02:51that the European Union

02:52has finally understood

02:53that enlargement

02:54is one of the,

02:56if not the best

02:56possible policy

02:58that the EU

02:59has ever had.

03:00It's actually

03:00the essence

03:00and the substance

03:01of the European Union

03:03and that enlargement

03:04plays a key role

03:06in transforming

03:07the European Union

03:08into a geopolitical

03:09and geostrategic player.

03:11So, Montenegro

03:11is very much keen

03:13on contributing

03:14to this kind

03:15of dimension

03:16of the European Union

03:18and we are looking forward

03:19to becoming

03:19the first next member

03:20as you have said

03:21of the EU

03:22and this is why

03:23we are saying

03:2328 by 28.

03:25So, 28 member states

03:26by 2028.

03:27We do hear, however,

03:28from EU officials,

03:29especially here in Brussels,

03:31concerns about

03:33the process

03:34of enlarging

03:34the Union

03:35and potential plans

03:37to integrate

03:38new members

03:39without giving them

03:40full voting rights.

03:43It's, I believe,

03:44a particular response

03:45to the way

03:45that some countries

03:46already within

03:47the European Union

03:47are using their veto power

03:49to block some foreign

03:50policy decisions.

03:51How would you feel about it?

03:52Would you accept

03:53that in 2028

03:54Brussels would tell you

03:55you can come in

03:57to the club,

03:58you can join the club,

03:59but you won't have

04:00the full voting rights

04:01as all other

04:02member states have?

04:05Well, I would say

04:06that the word concern

04:07is one of the key words

04:08here in Brussels

04:09and we hear it

04:10from time to time

04:11on different aspects

04:12of European policy.

04:14So, we do understand,

04:15of course,

04:16that EU has certain needs

04:19of being reformed itself.

04:21However, we want

04:22this process,

04:23without interfering with it,

04:25to go hand in hand

04:26or in parallel

04:27with the process

04:27of enlargement.

04:29What we are aiming at

04:30is full-fledged membership

04:32into the European Union

04:34and this is why

04:35we are doing

04:36all the so-called homework

04:37in order to qualify

04:39to become

04:39equal partner

04:41at the table.

04:42But let me tell you,

04:43I do understand

04:44where these concerns

04:45come from.

04:46But, for example,

04:47Montenegro has been

04:48for years aligned,

04:49100% aligned

04:50with common

04:51foreign and security

04:52policy

04:52and it continues

04:53to be so.

04:55And we actually had

04:55a different idea

04:58to become observers,

04:59regular observers

05:00at the Foreign Affairs

05:01Council

05:02because if we are

05:03100% aligned,

05:04why not be there

05:05without the right

05:06to vote, of course,

05:07until we become members.

05:09But what we expect

05:09is no less than

05:11full membership

05:12in the European Union.

05:13You say that you

05:14are 100% aligned

05:15with the EU's

05:16foreign policy.

05:17Other neighbours

05:17in the Western Balkan

05:19region are not

05:20and this is potentially

05:21why there are

05:21new ideas being

05:22brainstormed right now

05:23about the potential

05:24integration.

05:25Would you be willing

05:26to be accepted

05:27initially without

05:28your full voting rights?

05:31I would say

05:32that this is hardly

05:33acceptable,

05:34especially since,

05:35as I said,

05:36for years we have

05:37been aligned

05:37and why we will not

05:38continue to be aligned.

05:40This is a very

05:42abstract and theoretical

05:43question.

05:44And, of course,

05:45we do not want

05:46to be victims

05:47of anybody else

05:48who thinks differently.

05:50So, so far,

05:51Montenegro has been

05:52aligned,

05:53has given its

05:53contribution

05:54to every decision

05:56of the European Union

05:58regarding its

05:58foreign and security

05:59policy.

06:00and we actually

06:01want to contribute

06:02to it more

06:03actively and not

06:04more passively.

06:05Another idea that

06:06is making the rounds

06:07here in Brussels

06:08is this concept

06:09of a probation

06:10time where a new

06:12country would join

06:13and would be trialed

06:14in a sense for a

06:15certain amount of

06:16time, maybe months,

06:17maybe years.

06:18How would you feel

06:19about that?

06:20Well, we've been on

06:21trial for the past

06:2213 years and we'll

06:24be on trial until we

06:25close all negotiation

06:26chapters.

06:27So, once we close

06:28the negotiation

06:29chapters, as far

06:29as I'm concerned,

06:30the trial is over.

06:32I'd like to ask you

06:33a little bit more

06:34about the report

06:36that the Commission

06:37has just put out.

06:39It does ask you

06:40to clamp down

06:41on some things

06:42and to advance

06:42some reforms.

06:43It includes

06:44media freedom.

06:45It includes

06:45things like

06:46more coordination

06:48between ministers

06:50because you have

06:51quite a big

06:51government.

06:53How are you

06:53looking to address

06:55these concerns?

06:55Well, let me

06:57tell you first

06:57that, as we said

06:59at the beginning,

06:59this is by far

07:00the best report

07:01that we have ever

07:01received.

07:02But, of course,

07:02it's not perfect.

07:03If it were perfect,

07:04we wouldn't be

07:05a candidate country.

07:06We would be already

07:07in the top five

07:09most advanced

07:10EU member states.

07:11So, of course,

07:12some work needs

07:13to be done.

07:14But there is no

07:15chapter in which

07:16we had any sort

07:18of regress

07:19or backsliding.

07:20But, of course,

07:20there are certain

07:21recommendations

07:22that we want to

07:23take into account,

07:25not just regarding

07:26the coordination

07:26between the ministries,

07:27but also regarding

07:29showing even more

07:31progress in those

07:32chapters that concern

07:33the fight against

07:34organized crime

07:35and corruption.

07:37We are expecting

07:37to have a track record

07:38in final verdicts

07:41very soon

07:42until we finish

07:43the negotiations.

07:44We will, of course,

07:46update and upgrade

07:47the legislative framework

07:48that regards

07:49freedom of expression,

07:51media pluralism,

07:52and so on

07:52and so on.

07:53But, as I said,

07:55all in all,

07:56I think this is

07:56a very good report

07:59and it is basically

08:00very similar

08:01to those reports

08:03that certain countries

08:04that are now

08:05members of the EU

08:06used to get

08:07one or two

08:08or three years

08:08before they joined

08:09the European Union.

08:10And, as I said

08:11at the beginning,

08:12this report

08:13is not just

08:14an introduction

08:14to a successful

08:15intergovernmental conference

08:16by the end of this year,

08:17but it is also

08:18a blueprint

08:18for the things

08:19that we need

08:20and want to do

08:21by the end of 26.

08:23I'm going to ask you

08:24to perhaps wear

08:24your hat of foreign minister

08:26in answering this question.

08:28But,

08:29how much

08:30of a geopolitical

08:32signal

08:32would it be

08:33if

08:35the EU

08:36were to accept

08:37Montenegro

08:37as a new country

08:38and how much

08:39of a geopolitical

08:40cost

08:41would that be

08:42if the EU

08:43failed

08:43to do that swiftly?

08:44The answer

08:47to both

08:48of the questions

08:48is huge.

08:50So,

08:50it would be

08:51a huge gain

08:52for the European Union

08:53to finally prove

08:54that countries

08:55that do their job

08:56and that are

08:57actually willing

08:57to accede

08:58can accede

08:59and can become

08:59members of the EU

09:01because,

09:01as I said,

09:02it is the best

09:02policy that EU

09:04has ever had

09:04the very substance

09:05of the European Union

09:06because

09:07if the enlargement

09:08does not happen,

09:09not just with Montenegro

09:10but also with

09:11other candidate countries,

09:12then the very concept

09:14of European Union

09:14loses its credibility.

09:16It is not European

09:17and it is not Union

09:17anymore.

09:19So,

09:19with Montenegro

09:20the European Union

09:21is going to prove

09:22its very name,

09:23it is going to prove

09:24its concept,

09:25it is going to prove

09:25its values

09:26and it is going to prove

09:27its geopolitical status.

09:28However,

09:29if that does not happen,

09:31then it is a big loss

09:32not just for Montenegro

09:34and Canadian countries

09:34but for the European Union

09:36because the European Union

09:37will then

09:38fail

09:40the promises

09:41and it will

09:42lose credibility.

09:44For us,

09:44it will be

09:45a devastating situation

09:46in which we are

09:47performing all the reforms

09:48and are not becoming

09:49members of the EU

09:50and it will be

09:51a horrible signal

09:53to all other

09:54candidate countries

09:55because then

09:56they would understand

09:57that whatever they do

09:58is vain

09:59and this is something

10:00that we cannot accept.

10:01Finally,

10:03Deputy Prime Minister,

10:04you come from a region

10:05where some countries

10:07have been in the waiting room

10:09for decades.

10:10Do you think it could be

10:11a pull factor?

10:12That is,

10:13could it send an important

10:14signal to the Western Balkans

10:16and encourage them

10:17to really accelerate

10:20their reforms?

10:21If Montenegro were to join,

10:23would it be a broader boost

10:24for that region of the world?

10:26As I previously said,

10:27if Montenegro does not join,

10:29it's going to be bad

10:30for the European Union,

10:31it's going to be bad

10:32for Montenegro

10:33and it's going to send

10:33a very bad message

10:34to other candidate countries

10:36and it works

10:37the other way around.

10:38If Montenegro becomes

10:39the member of the EU

10:41according to the fair,

10:43strict and merit-based

10:44approach that we fully support

10:45and that has been

10:46also envisioned

10:47in the enlargement package

10:49that we saw,

10:50then,

10:52as I said,

10:52the EU confirms

10:54its credibility

10:54and it boosts

10:57its geopolitical

10:58players' status.

11:00Of course,

11:01for us,

11:01it boosts

11:02our economy,

11:03rule of law,

11:04democracy,

11:06the feeling

11:06of our citizens

11:07that actually feel

11:09like they are there

11:10and they are knocking

11:11at the door.

11:11They just need

11:12this door to be open

11:14and again,

11:15it will be

11:15a tremendously important message

11:17to all other

11:18candidate countries

11:18because

11:19it will prove

11:21that hard work

11:23and political dedication

11:25pays off

11:26to put it

11:28in those terms.

11:30But it will also prove

11:31all other voices

11:33that are not very friendly

11:34towards the Western Balkans

11:35and not very friendly

11:36towards the European Union

11:37that keep saying

11:38whatever you do,

11:40you will not become

11:40member of the EU.

11:42So we need to prove

11:43those voices wrong.

11:45Minister,

11:46thank you so much.

11:47All the best

11:47with your reforms to come.

11:49and thank you

11:49for joining us

11:50on 12 Minutes With.

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