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Dive into the latest drama with the affluent women of Orange County, California. This episode continues to explore their personal and professional lives, showcasing their relationships, conflicts, and lavish social events. Witness the ongoing dynamics and evolving friendships as the housewives navigate their complex world.

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02:00...in what I'm doing. I'm damned if I do. I'm damned if I don't.
02:03I'm making decisions based on what's best for me.
02:07Okay.
02:07Last year was traumatic for me because I was in a hole I didn't think I could crawl out of.
02:11So I'm processing through that still.
02:13Let me just ask you, what do I need to do to make things better?
02:20Time is what I need. Like, I appreciate the nice, kind gestures. I've laughed a lot today and I think that's great. And I hope that that's enough because that's all I can do right now.
02:39Okay.
02:39It's like you're bolting me in the best you can right now and I think that's fair.
02:43And that's better than where we were last year.
02:45Yeah.
02:45I appreciate everything that you've done and I'm grateful and I thank you. I really do.
02:52As much as this conversation was difficult, I appreciate it. And I feel like that's what real friends do is they actually talk about things.
03:00And I know that I probably have never done that before because I've always been, you know, defense. And I apologize. And I hope that we can go back to the house and have some shenanigans.
03:10Shenanigans.
03:11Shenanigans.
03:12Okay.
03:13Shenanigans.
03:14Shenanigans.
03:15Shenanigans.
03:17I just got triggered.
03:21What?
03:23I got you.
03:25I don't know.
03:25That was delicious. Oh, so good.
03:33Do we want to take anything home with us?
03:35No.
03:35Wish.
03:36We're not going home.
03:37No.
03:37We have places to go.
03:39There's paparazzi waiting.
03:41Now I know them by me.
03:42Yeah, exactly.
03:44I know for a fact that you did not call the paparazzi.
03:46It was her assistant.
03:46Look at that.
03:47It wasn't even that.
03:48What's your name?
03:49Shane.
03:49Shane, thank you very much. I appreciate it.
03:52Anyway, I hope you appreciate my feelings about Tamara.
03:56Was I scared of her before?
03:58Yes, because she's mean.
04:00I have had many difficult people in my life.
04:03And I started to tell her this story about my dad.
04:06You remind me a little bit of my dad.
04:08In public, with our family, he would have, like, these outbursts.
04:11I don't have outbursts in my family in public.
04:13I'm not saying that you do.
04:15She blew it off, never came back to it, and hasn't asked me about it since.
04:21So what is the situation with your dad?
04:23Thank you for asking.
04:24Yeah.
04:25My dad died a few years ago.
04:26And there's unresolved things.
04:29I'd blown it off for years.
04:31Like, he would sometimes act a certain way that would, you know, be very uncomfortable for me and my sister in public.
04:37There were just random times where my dad would have an explosion, whether we were at a restaurant or on a vacation.
04:45And it was embarrassing, and it was disturbing, and it was upsetting.
04:50So I tried to share with Tamara that day because I wanted her to understand that sometimes she acts a way that makes me feel uncomfortable.
04:59Uncomfortable.
04:59Yeah.
05:00And if there's one thing about Tamara is that she can be volatile, and you don't know when that's going to come at you.
05:07What I say about my dad is he didn't have sort of that empathy to understand how it would affect other people.
05:15And so she doesn't get that.
05:17You can't put expectations on someone that can't reach the expectation.
05:21I think it's difficult for Tamara to have real friendships with people because I think she always feels compelled to argue or to be combative.
05:29I think she is always thinking in terms of strategizing.
05:33I feel like it's always just some type of chess game.
05:37And maybe that's why I give her allowances.
05:38I was just going to say, and this is part of, like, the psychology behind it.
05:43If they remind you of someone in your life, you tend to gravitate towards them.
05:48You're actually looking to fulfill and heal yourself, hoping that they're going to give you a different response than what your parent gave you.
05:55And also, that's why maybe I parent the way I do, and I've created my family the way I have, because you can't control where you come from.
06:03But you sort of can control where you go to.
06:06Yeah.
06:07I love the fact that Heather is opening up.
06:09I don't feel like I get to see a lot of this from Heather.
06:13I think she should share more, because I think it will help people understand her better.
06:17Everything was delicious.
06:19It was really good.
06:20Let's go dance.
06:21Yeah.
06:21Let's go to the Abbey.
06:22I love the Abbey.
06:23Have you been there before?
06:24Yes.
06:24On the bar.
06:26I need more alcohol.
06:27Where's your fireball?
06:27It's in my purse.
06:29I'm going to go anywhere.
06:31I'm going to go anywhere.
06:32We're going to go anywhere.
06:34Wee!
06:35I'm not supposed to be my purse.
06:36All right, let's go.
06:43We're going to change the mood.
06:50Oh, look, the fire looks so nice.
06:52Look how sexy it looks in here.
06:54Sexy.
06:55I'm, like, all about it.
06:57Oh, really?
06:58Yeah, this is so funny.
06:59Oh, my God.
06:59I can't imagine you horny.
07:01I'm, like, very much different, like, in the bedroom.
07:04You know what I mean?
07:05Like, I just, I'm not a public.
07:08You're not a public.
07:10Public?
07:11What kind of are they talking about?
07:13I'm not a public.
07:15She's a private.
07:16Like, what is that?
07:18What's a public?
07:20What are we doing right now?
07:21I feel like we should go in the hot tub.
07:23Yeah, we have an outfit waiting for us.
07:25I know that Shannon didn't want to put on a bathing suit.
07:28I'm not excited about a bikini.
07:29Well, you don't have to.
07:30Okay.
07:31So, I just thought, like, let me get these oversized shirts.
07:34They look like we have a bikini on.
07:38I think somebody is taking the costume torch from me.
07:44And just be funny and quirky like Shannon is.
07:48Let's go get dressed.
07:50We're going to have fun, God damn it.
07:51We're going to have a lot of fun.
07:52Hi, Gretchen.
08:04Gretchen.
08:05Thank you.
08:06All right.
08:06Can you tell Gretchen what time she'll be performing?
08:09Do you guys have a fun tonight or what?
08:13What do you guys think?
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13:16qu'est-ce pas ?
13:18Qu'est-ce que vousweste ?
13:20J'ai tellement l'étoil !
13:21Tout de l'étoile, c'est backwards !
13:23Oh, c'est l'étoile ?
13:24C'est l'étoile !
13:25C'est l'étoile, vous avez des ?
13:26Je veux que vous nous soucie de faire ?
13:28Là est ce joint ?
13:29Voici ici !
13:30Ici, c'est le DuB York ?
13:31C'est le DuB York !
13:33Cette est une situation sur le retour !
13:35C'est comme quelqu'un le de la douleur de la douleur,
13:39et vous devez avoir de la douleur.
13:42Nous avons un situation de vacations.
13:45En casse de l'emergence, nous sommes bustingin' it out.
13:48Did I do okay?
13:49Je suis vraiment très prudé de vous pour vous.
13:53Je suis comme vous avez fait un bon travail de prendre l'honneur de choses
13:57et aussi de communiquer la façon dont vous vous sentez.
13:59Je suis un peu de walk-in-the-park.
14:01Really?
14:03People always think I'm a New Yorker.
14:05Parce que je respecte strong people.
14:09Et puis, c'est plus facile pour vous dismisser des gens qui ne sont pas.
14:12Mais c'est quelque chose que, comme vous disiez,
14:15si vous travaillez à comprendre d'autres types de gens,
14:18vous devez avoir accepté qu'il y a des différents types de gens.
14:21Vous avez des gens qui ne sont pas plus de gens.
14:22Non, vous ne êtes pas plus de gens.
14:24Non, je ne suis pas.
14:26Je pense que Tamra veut changer, mais elle n'est pas encore.
14:30Elle a été en thérapie pour 10 minutes maintenant.
14:33Je pense que vous devez vous donner des gens space pour growth.
14:37Ça fait des gens bonnes.
14:39Est-ce que vous êtes bien après la journée?
14:40C'est juste, c'est, c'est, c'est exhausting.
14:45Vous savez ce que Jaina m'a dit ?
14:46Jaina m'a dit que je veux dire qu'elle a longtemps.
14:49Mais je ne suis pas dans mes secrets de Tamra.
14:53C'est ce cycle avec Tamra n'est pas pas, je pense.
14:57Je pense que c'est qui elle est.
14:58Je suis d'un avec le combat avec elle.
15:00Et je j'ai vraiment aimé
15:01où mes friendships avec les autres femmes sont en trainant.
15:03Donc, on a chanteur.
15:04Let's juste avoir un plaisir.
15:05Jaina, on a chanteur.
15:07All right.
15:09Et puis, on a chanteur.
15:12Oh, on a chanteur.
15:13On a chanteur.
15:14On a chanteur.
15:14On a chanteur.
15:15On a chanteur.
15:16On a chanteur.
15:16On a chanteur.
15:16On a chanteur.
15:16On a chanteur.
15:19Oh, my God.
15:20I need this code in my life.
15:22I mean, I feel like I'm fabulous.
15:24Gretchen, I feel like...
15:25Oh, my gosh.
15:27This would it be like to be a billionaire.
15:30And I could just not give anything ever.
15:34You can't.
15:35You can't.
15:35You can't.
15:35You can't.
15:36You can't.
15:37You can't.
15:37You can't.
15:38Wait.
15:39I can't.
15:40These people are literally.
15:42They're way down on your back.
15:44They're way down on your back.
15:47Oh, don't break it in your back.
15:49I think I broke my neck.
15:51You can't have a pillow fight at others' house.
15:53They literally weigh 922,000.
15:58Oh, yeah.
16:01Ow.
16:02My stomach literally hurts.
16:05Gretchen, what is wrong with you?
16:06Nothing.
16:07Everything is totally fine.
16:10Oh, it's a kid.
16:11What happened?
16:12Heather.
16:13Nothing.
16:14I'm afraid we got in trouble with mom.
16:16Oopsie.
16:17It wasn't me.
16:18It was her.
16:18She started it.
16:19It's fine.
16:20I'm fine.
16:22The pillows are fine.
16:23It's all going to be fine.
16:26Holy .
16:27Are you hungry?
16:30Absolutely.
16:31I need to call 911.
16:34Do we want pizza?
16:36Yes.
16:36She needs water.
16:38I need water stack.
16:39And a ballium.
16:41Nate, have you ever worked at the Abbey?
16:43I have not.
16:45Would you ever consider it?
16:48Sure.
16:48I'll be back.
16:55Just let me know if you need anything, all right?
16:56Thanks, Nate.
16:57Thanks, Nate.
16:58When are we going to go to our slumber party?
17:00I want to talk about people.
17:02Gretchen, I'm still intrigued by this song.
17:05Was it like a pop song?
17:06I don't freaking remember.
17:08Why do you ever send it?
17:09Because somebody sent it to Slade.
17:11He just kept it?
17:13No, they sent it to him.
17:14He had it.
17:15Why does Slade have it?
17:17Does he have an archive somewhere?
17:20Ask him for the song.
17:21Oh, my God.
17:22You guys are kidding me.
17:23There's so much trouble.
17:24Yeah, where's my phone?
17:25Where's my phone?
17:26We're going to jam to it.
17:27Gretchen, go get your phone.
17:29This is not good, you guys.
17:30This could be bad.
17:31I don't want to show it.
17:33They want to show it.
17:35Come on, Gretchen.
17:36You guys want World War IX to happen.
17:51Look, I can fan the crackers in synchronized scrimming.
17:54Scrimming?
17:55Scrimming.
17:55Oh, I've got to stick my hair up inside.
18:07Wait, can we take a picture with our hats on?
18:09Okay, see, this is the stuff I love.
18:11This is a girl's trip.
18:13Tamara's got fun get-ups for us to go swimming.
18:17When I go back and think about, like,
18:19what our friendship was like before all of this,
18:21Tamara and I had fun.
18:22Like, Tamara is a good time.
18:25Wait, wait, can we look at Shannon?
18:28She looks like the madam of the synchronized swim team.
18:31Madam swim.
18:33Okay, now ready, Shannon?
18:34So you start with your backstroke.
18:36Backstroke.
18:37Now go forward.
18:39Forward.
18:39Yes.
18:40Now it's a little bit in the legs.
18:42Move left.
18:45Yes, Shannon, yes.
18:47And then ready?
18:47You've got to go into water.
18:48Ready, go to...
18:49What did you do?
18:50What did you do?
18:50Oh!
18:52We are ridiculous right now.
18:55Where is my phone?
18:57No idea where the phone is.
18:59Somebody help me.
19:01Hey, Siri, where are you, bitch?
19:03I can't find it.
19:04I don't know where it is.
19:07Crutchers, where's your phone?
19:08I can't find it.
19:09I'm looking.
19:10It was somewhere in the...
19:11Hey, I found it!
19:13I need to hear the song.
19:15I'm not going to let her off the hook.
19:16This is what happens in sleepovers.
19:17You drink Fireball, and then you talk s**t about your nemesis.
19:22Hi, babe.
19:23Hi.
19:23So I might have gotten in a little bit of trouble.
19:25Yes.
19:27It has come to my attention that there is maybe an auto-recording of Tamra singing in a studio.
19:33The story goes, this was her trying to record a song, and the two of them started messing
19:40around, and they forgot they were recording.
19:44So the audio of their extracurricular...
19:47Wait, there's audio of them having sex?
19:50This is just what we've been told by...
19:52Wait, you said you have the audio.
19:54No, I said I heard the audio of her in the studio trying to sing the song.
19:59Did you hear the other audio, Slade?
20:00Uh, yeah, it was played for me.
20:02We just wanted to hear her singing.
20:03I don't care about this other stuff.
20:05It's gross.
20:05Slade, I mean, he literally, like, salivates at the mouth when he gets to talk about Tamra.
20:11I mean, Shane would have told me, shut the f**k up about Tamra and move on.
20:16Slade just feeds it and feeds it.
20:18When it comes to Tamra, I'm not really interested in necessarily sharing dirt on Tamra.
20:24But I am interested in telling the truth.
20:26Okay, well, if you're not going to send the song, Slade, we're going to go back to our song for her.
20:30We have things to do.
20:31Bye.
20:32Love you.
20:33Love you.
20:34Let's go hang out in our beds.
20:36You guys can't go back to Tamra and tell her this because this is going to be a problem.
20:40Too late.
20:40It's not to cause problems between the group.
20:43Too late.
20:44I don't want the girls to say anything about the extracurricular activity that was going on in the studio
20:49because that's not originally why I called Slade.
20:51I called Slade because I wanted to hear the footage of Tamra in the studio sound like a drowned rat.
20:55She's in trouble.
20:57Gretchen's in trouble.
20:59Don't let her.
21:00Gretchen's in trouble.
21:02I'm going to be in big trouble.
21:04We got to get towels.
21:06Oh, the floor is so cold.
21:07I'm going to die out here.
21:09Lift it up.
21:10Okay.
21:11I smoke this fancy marijuana.
21:12I am what they like to call California sober.
21:17I do enjoy a little THC.
21:21That is like a joint.
21:23That is like a joint.
21:24You're asking it in the car and they give Janet the door a joint.
21:28No, I can't.
21:29I can't because I have a cop.
21:31Always says to me.
21:33That's a panger on her.
21:35She's not Doc Holliday.
21:42Does she have like the black lung?
21:44I'm going to say this and I hope you don't take offense to this, Shannon,
21:47but like I really do worry about you
21:49because Nat's just had a heart attack
21:51and it freaks me out.
21:53I worry about you.
21:54I'm good.
21:55Are you worried about like her future?
21:59I think Gina's concerns are the same concerns that I've had for many years
22:02and it's Shannon's drinking.
22:04It takes a toll on your body.
22:06I think she's just, we're going to just call her.
22:07She's just not going to eat her.
22:08No, I didn't know.
22:09But it's like over 40 now.
22:11I'm very aware that you would have serious health things that happen to you.
22:15It's freaky.
22:15I don't like it.
22:16You know?
22:17Yeah.
22:17It's not weird.
22:18Inside it's 28.
22:20I just.
22:21All right.
22:21Good.
22:22The girls are out of the house now and she's there by herself
22:25and like I just truly believe that it's way easier to make bad decisions
22:30when you're alone.
22:32I'm sitting at home with my dog.
22:34I'm watching shows.
22:35I'm doing my Sudoku puzzles and I'm timing myself at every single one
22:38and I'm really getting good at it.
22:39Like don't bring up this kind of stuff.
22:41I have a good life right now.
22:44I'm ready for Ben.
22:45I am.
22:46What is it?
22:4610?
22:47I'm so tired.
22:48Can we go to bed now?
22:49Okay.
22:50I'm going to close the curtains.
22:52Thanks for such a fun slumber party.
22:54So much fun!
22:56And good night.
22:57Good night.
23:00Look how cute this is!
23:01Gretchen.
23:03What?
23:04You have to stop talking.
23:07Like legit this is my favorite slumber party ever.
23:09I love you girls.
23:10Good night John boy.
23:11Emily I love you.
23:14Night Emily.
23:16Shut the f*** up Gretchen.
23:18Coming up.
23:20I grew up in a bit of chaos.
23:22If this stuff is buried.
23:23I'm well aware.
23:24Okay sorry.
23:25That this needs to happen.
23:25Jesus Christ any time I say anything you jump down my throat.
23:29Mm-mm.
23:30I love you girl.
23:30Thank you.
23:48Is this the thing?
23:49I don't know.
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26:26C'est un petit peu fuffy.
26:27Vous avez eu coupé.
26:29Vous avez eu coupé.
26:30Vous avez coupé.
26:31Oui, je me souviens.
26:32J'ai eu un coup d'habit.
26:34Pourquoi est-ce qu'il est un coup d'easy?
26:36Il est donc tout d'essayant ?
26:38Parce qu'il est tout d'essayant.
26:40Oui.
26:41C'est bon.
26:42Je veux dire.
26:43Je pense que tu et Travis vont se marier ?
26:45Probable.
26:46J'ai pas besoin.
26:47Je ne sais pas.
26:48Qu'est-ce que tu es pour ?
26:50C'est comme le instabilité de ce circumstances.
26:53Vous avez un peu à votre plate.
26:55C'est un peu.
26:56J'ai juste pour voir ce qu'il va arriver.
26:59Et, vous savez, je ne sais pas.
27:00Je ne sais pas ce qu'il est en train de faire.
27:02C'est comme un wedding.
27:04Parce que c'est un peu plus.
27:06C'est un peu plus.
27:07Parce que je sais que notre priorité
27:09always doit avoir une sécurité pour ce qui va arriver.
27:12C'est un peu comme ça.
27:13C'est un peu comme ça.
27:15C'est un peu plus.
27:16C'est un peu plus.
27:17Il y a un mois.
27:18Et si ça ne va pas comme ça,
27:20il est un peu plus.
27:22Il y a beaucoup de temps.
27:25C'est un peu plus.
27:27C'est un peu plus.
27:29C'est un peu plus.
27:31C'est un peu plus.
27:32C'est un peu plus.
27:33C'est un peu plus.
27:35C'est un peu plus.
27:36C'est un peu plus.
27:37C'est un peu plus.
27:38C'est un peu plus.
27:39C'est un peu plus.
27:40C'est un peu plus.
27:41C'est un peu plus.
27:42C'est un peu plus.
27:43C'est un peu plus.
27:44C'est un peu plus.
27:45C'est un peu plus.
27:46C'est un peu plus.
27:47C'est un peu plus.
27:49C'est un peu plus.
27:50C'est un peu plus.
27:51C'est un peu plus.
27:53C'est un peu plus.
27:55C'est un peu plus.
27:56C'est un peu plus.
27:57C'est un peu plus.
27:59C'est like, he's a quality person.
27:59And like, he's a gift to his children.
28:02And like the fact that somebody's trying to take that from these kids, it's so hurtful.
28:09It's so sad.
28:10Because how do you put justice to that?
28:12You can't.
28:12NO.
28:13You can't.
28:13You just can't.
28:22Ladies, we have a brunch for you.
28:24All of the pastries are warm, mini regular croissants.
28:28Oh my gosh.
28:28And then we have some macerated berries, some fresh mint.
28:31Thank you so much, Chris.
28:33This is beautiful.
28:34Can I have a couple eggs over hard?
28:40Can you do that?
28:41You want it like really cooked.
28:43Do you think I'm crazy?
28:44I would never serve that.
28:46I've never served it to anybody in my entire career.
28:50You make them however you want.
28:51Ladies, we have a chef here.
28:53Get your eggs the way you want them.
28:55It's okay.
28:56Can you do poached eggs?
28:59I can.
29:00He's going to be so annoyed by us.
29:01I want an egg white olive, but no cheese, please.
29:04Okay, you got it.
29:05And I like it well done.
29:06Well done.
29:07Okay, yes, you got it.
29:08Thank you.
29:09Okay, enjoy, ladies.
29:11Cheers.
29:11Thank you.
29:13Hey!
29:14Hey, honey!
29:15Did you miss me last night?
29:17Hi!
29:17How are you?
29:18What's up?
29:19You're so beautiful.
29:20You're so beautiful.
29:21Hi, Lani.
29:22Aw.
29:23Terry, come sit down here.
29:25Thank you.
29:25Oh, is that beautiful.
29:28Yeah, ooh.
29:29I've never slept so much in my life.
29:31Oh.
29:33He would love to have a sleep divorce.
29:35Wait, what does that mean?
29:36You sleep in another room.
29:38Oh, I know.
29:38That's what's happening right now for Slayton and I.
29:41Oh, really?
29:41Because he snores so much, I make him sleep on the couch right now.
29:45Do you ever think about getting married?
29:46You know, I think I've never had an issue with wanting to get married.
30:10So I think I loved, yeah, I would love to.
30:13I remember years ago, when we first talked about it, you were worried about financially
30:18getting married.
30:19Yes, yes.
30:20Because Slayton is trying to get caught up on some of the back debt and trying to get
30:24the things resolved within...
30:25Well, you also don't want to take that on in a marriage.
30:27I don't want to take it on.
30:29But now you feel like that's all handled.
30:31Well, it's not that even it's all handled.
30:33I just feel like I've been with him for 16 years and I know who he is and I feel much
30:37more confident.
30:38We tell everybody we're husband and wife.
30:40And we actually did a ceremony with an ordained pastor.
30:44Paper doesn't make us married or not.
30:45In God's eyes and in our eyes, we're married.
30:48So do you have everything financially separate now?
30:52Are your bank accounts together?
30:54We've never done that.
30:55I've always liked to have my own money.
30:58My home is in my name.
30:59I've always been very strict about that.
31:02I never wanted a man to be able to control me financially.
31:05It's your house.
31:06So you make the mortgage payment or does he pay like rent?
31:09No.
31:10He doesn't pay rent.
31:11Well, I don't know.
31:12He has to contribute.
31:13He lives there too.
31:14Right?
31:16How do you decide who pays for stuff?
31:18Like you buy groceries.
31:20Do you split the groceries?
31:21Just is one in charge?
31:23It's, I don't know.
31:25It comes out of my mind.
31:25It comes out of my account.
31:27Does he pay for anything?
31:29I feel like this is like weird questioning.
31:33Gretchen and Slade's financial situation is really none of my business, but it just never
31:38has made sense to me.
31:40That's why when Gretchen proposed to Slade, we all thought it was bulls**t.
31:43It would be an honor and a privilege.
31:54Why are they not legally wed?
31:56Why does she pay for everything and refuse to put anything in his name?
32:00I don't know.
32:01I guess why it's fascinating to us is that because we're all so commingled, it all comes out of
32:06the same pot.
32:07I don't know.
32:08Oh my God.
32:09We're one person.
32:10Like as soon as I married Shane and we had a joint checking joint, everything was joint.
32:14Right away.
32:15I didn't sign a prenup.
32:16We've never had that.
32:17We've never had that.
32:18That's a strange situation.
32:19What is the arrangement?
32:21Does he work?
32:22If he works, what is he paying for?
32:24I mean, he's got a crooked penis and he has to have it worked on.
32:27Like what is he contributing?
32:29Now I need a nap.
32:30Have you ever had a chair massage before?
32:32No.
32:33I've had a chair dance.
32:34There's a lot of activity.
32:35But it doesn't count.
32:36It doesn't count.
32:37Which chair?
32:38Okay.
32:39Face here?
32:40Okay.
32:41I ate way too much.
32:43Did you hear that?
32:44She failed to not.
32:45I wonder why.
32:46That's because that one made me dance on a pole.
32:50You guys got me in trouble last night.
32:53You got yourself in trouble, Gretters.
32:54No.
32:55What did we do?
32:56Somebody asked something about a pop song.
33:00That was you.
33:01And then you were like, and she had an affair with the guy from .
33:04You guys stop it.
33:05I don't know anything about that.
33:07You told us.
33:08I did not.
33:09Slade said something about that.
33:11I didn't.
33:12Gretters.
33:13Slade is your henchman.
33:15Slade took it to another level.
33:16After this many years, has he not learned to not get involved?
33:21It was us having fun at our slimmer party as girls and being silly.
33:24I shouldn't have said it.
33:26And I would appreciate you guys not saying something to cause issues.
33:29But I'm sure you're not going to do that, which is not nice.
33:33What happens at a sleepover should stay at a sleepover.
33:35Gretchen.
33:36No, like for real.
33:37I'm asking you guys.
33:38You have completely taken the situation and made us the villains.
33:41No.
33:42We were all having fun.
33:43It went further than what I had ever intended.
33:45But don't be an asshole and don't go running back to Tamara.
33:48You know it's going to cause conflict.
33:50I didn't ask you about it.
33:52I didn't manipulate you to get the information.
33:54Backpedal.
33:55Backpedal.
33:56Backpedal.
33:57Backpedal.
33:58You gave away information about Tamara willingly.
34:02And I shouldn't have done it.
34:03And I'm mad at myself for doing it.
34:05But you say Tamara's a horrible person because she accused you of having an affair.
34:09And you had to spend all this money to prove that you did not.
34:12But you just accused her of having an affair.
34:15So how is it different?
34:16It was on the internet.
34:17I'm saying it's the same thing.
34:18It was on the internet.
34:19So is it not true if it's on the internet?
34:22It's the same thing that she did to me.
34:25So you and Tamara are the same?
34:27No.
34:28We are far from the same.
34:29It might look like we're the same person.
34:31I just give Tamara the same energy she gives me.
34:34Tamara and Gretchen are the same person.
34:35Other than Gretchen uses more filters.
34:37Other than that, I can't tell them apart.
34:39It was a rough sleepover, girls.
34:41Is it over now?
34:43It's over now.
34:44Get the out of my nose.
34:45I have to go home.
34:49This backyard is insane.
34:51I know.
34:52Oh, this is so nice.
34:54Shannon, thank you.
34:55Oh, you're welcome.
34:56Mmm, that's yummy.
34:58What does everybody have when we get home?
35:00Back to life?
35:01Back to life.
35:02Open house for school tonight.
35:05Kids, kids, kids.
35:06I'm gonna walk the dog.
35:08He's so cute, Shannon.
35:09When I leave, because I was feel guilty, I'll go, I'm so sorry.
35:12I'll try and make it up to you.
35:14Because I talked to him.
35:15There's no one else to talk to.
35:16Archie, I'm gonna tell you exactly how long I'm gonna be gone.
35:20One night and two days.
35:23But that worries me for you.
35:25You're home with Archie.
35:26Last night, you were saying, like, I think about you.
35:28I have concern when you're talking about the hot tub.
35:30I do.
35:31Shannon likes companionship.
35:32We know that.
35:33So it makes me sad to think of my friend home alone.
35:36I would suspect that Shannon is lonely.
35:38Do you still go to therapy?
35:40Yeah, multiple times a week.
35:42Yesterday, what takes you from, like, I'm upset and pissed to, like, derailment?
35:48It's justifiable to call me a drunk and an alcoholic and have another drink every single time you see me for four months.
35:55Well, I don't think it was every single time I saw you.
35:57Every single time.
36:00I mean, we talk about catastrophizing in my...
36:03Yeah, it feels like that sometimes.
36:05I grew up, like, when you talk about you don't know what's gonna happen every day, that's how I grew up.
36:12Meaning what? You didn't know what to expect day to day as a kid?
36:15Yeah, just, I grew up in a bit of chaos.
36:18You've talked to me about some of that stuff.
36:23It was a tumultuous marriage.
36:25I remember my mom told us she was gonna divorce my dad, and I was in college.
36:31I came home for the weekend, and the process server didn't get to my dad by 5 o'clock on Friday.
36:38So we came home, and we had a barbecue, and we played tennis as a family.
36:43And then I felt bad for my dad that we all knew, and we had to fake it.
36:50But didn't you say you had a drinking problem growing up, when you were growing up?
36:54Tamara, just, I get it that you're trying to be helpful, but, like, my dad is 96 years old.
37:01And he's a different man, so there's a certain level.
37:05Like, I don't wanna hurt my father. Do you understand that?
37:09I'm sorry, I just...
37:10Okay, thank you.
37:11I'm trying to hurt your father.
37:12Well, you are by saying things like that when he's not even like that anymore.
37:16Okay.
37:17Tamara and I did speak often about our past histories in confidence.
37:23Never in my wildest dreams did I think that that private conversation would be brought up on camera.
37:30How dare she?
37:32Just trying to help you, Shannon.
37:34That's not helping. That's not helping me.
37:36Saying that you did have some struggles growing up?
37:39I don't think she said that to hurt you, Shannon.
37:41I feel like Tamara is genuinely trying to connect with Shannon and help Shannon speak about something that she knows is difficult for her to speak about.
37:54Do you talk about all this stuff in therapy?
37:56Yeah.
37:58If this stuff is buried, it comes out in this.
38:01Tamara, I went to a trauma facility where I was in therapy for eight hours plus a day for 30 days.
38:07So I'm well aware that this needs to happen.
38:09Okay, sorry.
38:10Jesus Christ.
38:11Anytime I say anything, you jump down my throat.
38:13For you to try and explain how...
38:15I'm not your enemy, girl.
38:16I'm not your enemy.
38:17I was just giving my two cents.
38:19For her to try and explain to me how therapy works?
38:23My life.
38:24I'm not even going to try with her anymore.
38:26Annoying.
38:27Bitch.
38:28For her to try and explain to you.
38:29I have to say I disagree with you, Gina.
38:30I disagree with you, Gina.
38:31I disagree with you.
38:32I think the statement about her dad, that's not nice.
38:33I think she's right.
38:34What are we going to do with this now?
38:35I don't know.
38:36Let me go see what's going on in here.
38:37Tamara is smart enough to know she's not going to call Shannon an alcoholic.
38:40so she's going to lay out that Shannon's father also suffered from alcoholism so that he's
39:08qui a aussi souffert de l'alcoolisme
39:10pour que nous puissions tous les connecter
39:12que c'est qu'il est dans le famille.
39:14Channon doit être un alcoholic, aussi.
39:16J'ai une autre glace de champagne, Channon.
39:18C'est un digge.
39:20C'est moi ou si je dis quelque chose à dire?
39:24C'est comme, je sais, je sais, je sais,
39:28je vais y aller.
39:30Question.
39:31La dad comment.
39:32Est-ce que vous avez vraiment dit?
39:34Ou est-ce que vous avez dit,
39:36et nous a d'avoir que ça.
39:38C'est pas mal.
39:40Est-ce que tu faisais une brosse à l'autre?
39:42C'est trop t'interesse et que c'est que c'estcka
39:44qu'il a ver à la pollution.
39:47C'est pas mal, c'est pas mal.
39:49L'accue d'aujourd'hui.
39:51C'est pas mal que ta mal face à ça.
39:53Ces ces ces sont tous nécessaires, Tamira.
39:55Vous avez des décisions d'olive branch.
39:57Et combien de gens t'en aurent faites ?
39:59C'est pas mal...
40:01C'est bon que vous vous dites pour la personne
40:03dans le moment.
40:05J'ai dit qu'il y a eu et qu'il y a eu et qu'il y a eu.
40:35J'ai dit qu'il y a eu et qu'il y a eu et qu'il y a eu.
41:04此 fave que j'ai dit qu'il y a eu et qu'il y a eu et qu'il y a eu et qu'il du.
41:08Je me suis dit que je ne voudrais pas.
41:09D'accord.
41:10Je pense que...
41:11J'ai dit qu'il y a pas mal.
41:12J'ai dit qu'il y a pas mal.
41:14Oh mon Dieu.
41:16J'ai dit qu'il y a pas mal.
41:18Je ne peux pas faire ça.
41:20Je ne peux pas faire ça.
41:22Elle a une excuse, elle a une explanaion pour tout.
41:26Je ne crois pas.
41:28Je vais juste, je vais essayer de l'écrire
41:32de ce que je devais faire.
41:34Mon therapist me dit pas de venir et de rester dans mon couloir.
41:36Oh.
41:38Oh.
41:40Je ne peux pas faire ça.
41:44Les femmes sont literally 61 et 57 years old.
41:48Et ils actent comme ils sont dans la même chose dans la même chose.
41:51C'est dû être étudié par les therapists.
41:54Je ne veux pas parler d'un therapist.
41:57Je ne veux pas parler d'un mental health.
42:00C'est un grand car ride home.
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