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00:00All six of our hosts have descended upon Pleasant Hill, California, to break down every angle of this squad.
00:07Curry deep three from half court, and he hit it! He hit it!
00:11There's one person on the planet that would take that shot, and he nailed it!
00:19Ridiculous.
00:20It's time for the Blue and Gold Summit, live from Jack's Restaurant and Bar in Pleasant Hill.
00:26Alongside Dan Dibley, Joe Spadoni, Joe Shasky, Matt Steinmetz, and Daryl the Guru Johnson, here's Mark Willard.
00:36Let's go! The Summit is here!
00:41Woo! Come on! Let's go!
00:46Mark, what a turnout. Wow!
00:49What a turnout.
00:49Hey, give yourselves a round of applause. Y'all look great!
00:53Woo!
00:54Yeah!
00:56All right, Jack's Restaurant and Bar, the Warrior Summit, is here.
00:59We look forward to this stuff all year long.
01:02Say hello to our morning show, the Joe Shasky and Spadoni!
01:09Wow, that was not a good reception.
01:11Oh, boy!
01:13And nobody looks better in pink. Look at the Midday Show.
01:16Come on!
01:18Hey, all right, I'll see you.
01:20Let's get this thing started.
01:22Carter, we got some surprises for you a little bit later on in the show, but we want to dive right in to some Warrior basketball.
01:29So what we're going to do is we're going to go across the whole table and just start it out with a bit of an opening statement with regard to what we've seen so far through nine games.
01:39So let's start with our guys in the morning.
01:42Man to my right, Joe Shasky.
01:43A little bit of an opening statement.
01:46What do you see so far through nine?
01:49I see a lot.
01:50I see a lot.
01:51I think my favorite part of the first eight games has been the youngsters.
01:56I think Jonathan Kaminga has been amazing.
01:58I'm shocked that he's been able to assimilate the way that he has, the way the veterans have embraced him, Kerr's embraced him.
02:05Moody's shot looks incredible early on.
02:08I think Pods has had some up-and-down performances, but overall he's been really good.
02:12And then, I mean, how about this kid Will Richard?
02:15Will Richard.
02:15I've been so impressed with him.
02:17TJD, I thought, flipped the game the other night.
02:19I know the big three get all the credit and all the love.
02:22I think the first part of the season has been all the youngsters, and I'm enjoying it.
02:27Last time I wanted them to win that game.
02:28That was fun, but obviously they were missing something with that second unit late third quarter.
02:34But overall, I'm worried about the old guys.
02:36Can they navigate nine months?
02:38I don't know.
02:39The young guys look great.
02:40I'm so pumped for them.
02:41Off to a good start, absolutely.
02:43Spadoni, what do you say?
02:44The fact that they beat the Lakers in La La Land makes you very happy if you're a Warriors fan.
02:49And the fact that they beat the Nuggets, a team that has hounded them for years, has to make you very excited, by the way.
02:57Listen to your interview with Kurt earlier.
02:59Know Steph tomorrow?
03:00That doesn't make me very happy.
03:01He's sick.
03:02Get better, Steph.
03:03We love you.
03:04One thing that concerns me, Al Horford's concerning me right now, guys.
03:10But it's early, though.
03:11It's nine games into the season.
03:13He can figure it out.
03:13I know Steve said the fact that he missed all the shots isn't good, but everything else is good.
03:18So, Al Horford, I guess.
03:19Yes, Steve did say he thought they were going in.
03:22Thanks.
03:22They just didn't.
03:23Thanks.
03:24So, I don't know if you get any points for those.
03:26But over to Stiney and Goo.
03:28Stiney, what do you think?
03:29What do you see so far through nine games?
03:31Oh, I see.
03:33Oh, here we go.
03:34Oh, boy.
03:34Oh, boy.
03:35I see about what I thought I'd see.
03:40I really like the youngsters who are playing.
03:43Kaming is, to me, the story of the season so far.
03:46I agree.
03:47He's been very good.
03:49To me, he's noticeably improved.
03:54And so that, to me, is the big part.
03:56But we got the troubling thing of three guys missing last night's game.
04:01I get it's sickness.
04:02But, you know, the season's so long, so much.
04:06Is Butler playing tomorrow?
04:08Don't know yet.
04:08Exactly.
04:09Oh, here we go.
04:11Here we go.
04:12Yeah.
04:13Oh, boy.
04:13That's it.
04:14Steph's not, though.
04:15I know.
04:16That's all.
04:16He's sick sick.
04:17He's sick sick, Butch.
04:18Great job on understanding Kerr on the way to the flight.
04:23Is he going to be on?
04:24Nice job.
04:25I appreciate that.
04:26Terrific.
04:26Normally, Mark handles the heavy lifting.
04:27Terrific.
04:28And I do the slap and or tickle.
04:30But, hey, Steve, is he going to be on the flight?
04:34He's not going to be on the flight.
04:36And if he's not on the flight, he's probably not going to play, Joe.
04:38The list is Slater and Shams tweet was after.
04:44After.
04:45After.
04:45After.
04:46After.
04:46After.
04:46After.
04:46Which means that Slater and Shams might have been in the car with Steve.
04:50Because how else would they know?
04:52The Odyssey app.
04:53That's right.
04:53There you go.
04:53Thank you, Stiney.
04:54The official report is that Steph is out.
04:57Jimmy is questionable.
04:59Draymond is probable.
05:01That's their official listing up to the minute.
05:04Guru, what do you see so far?
05:06My view and pleasure is not just delegated to Steph, Jimmy, and Dre.
05:13I was thoroughly entertained last night.
05:15And they got some youngsters on the squad.
05:16As Butch said, Butch, we want you to leave our guy alone, Dibs and I.
05:20Richard, because we were at him first.
05:21Okay, first off, I have Todd Golden.
05:23I have his number.
05:24I coached his kid.
05:26That's my account.
05:27Oh, boy.
05:28Todd Golden is my account.
05:29But, dude, they have a mentality of, like, and moody as well.
05:34You know, like, I don't give a damn.
05:36I've been here before.
05:37So, yesterday I was thoroughly entertained.
05:39I wanted them to win.
05:40They didn't.
05:41But there are going to be nights where, you know, the chef and the rest of the OGs are not there.
05:46But now we got the two-timeline thing that's actually born.
05:50The babies are here, and they're actually making contributions.
05:52So, I like that.
05:54And what's concerning me is guards just breaking us down on the offensive side of the ball
06:00and then not having the Windex, man, to back the guys getting beat off dribble penetration.
06:06I'm not seeing that yet.
06:08It's nine games.
06:09Al Horford, where you at?
06:11But I'm just – that's concerning.
06:13Can I ask Mark and Dan a question here?
06:15Of course.
06:16I'm watching this team.
06:17If we would have had this summit before the season started, I think the majority of the questions would have been,
06:22can the young guys help out the old guys?
06:26In two of their losses on the road, I feel like the old guys let down the young guys and played hero ball.
06:33Can you make the argument the young guys have been more impressive through eight games than the older guys?
06:38I think you could easily make that argument.
06:39No, go ahead.
06:40No, I think that the young guys provide a higher floor, but the old guys provide a higher ceiling.
06:46And so, my thing, my opening statement, the one thing I really like is when they're all healthy and they're all together.
06:52This team is good enough to do it all, win it all, if healthy, and if they're in the right spot at the end of the year.
06:58But when they're not, they are much closer to a lottery team.
07:02So, the young guys, I think that the young guys are good and they provide a solid base.
07:07But if the old guys can't do it consistently enough, then you're probably going to be a six seed and you're going to be more like last year than you are 2022.
07:15I think it's easy to make that case, but I also think it's a matter of kind of what glasses we're wearing.
07:21In other words, we already know who Steph Curry, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond Green are.
07:25We came into this with questions about what Jonathan would look like, who is Will Richard, would Moody, maybe Pods, would they kind of take a step forward?
07:34So, yeah, they are popping more because they're doing more.
07:38They are better versions of themselves than they were when we last saw them.
07:43As to where the other three guys are the same version, I don't know, maybe you could argue that they are starting to go downhill.
07:50I think it's a little early to say that, though, because also, what is the goal of those players?
07:55Those young guys want to come out and show something right away?
07:58And I think the older players are coming out right away to pace themselves, and they're probably looking at games that are in April and March more so than they're worried about November.
08:09If we did the summit before the season, how much of the talk would have been about Kaminga and is he ready?
08:16Where is he at?
08:16Where does he play?
08:18How much?
08:18I think I can make a legitimate argument through eight games.
08:22He's been their second best player on six out of those eight nights, maybe five.
08:26Like, I didn't have that on my bingo card, guys.
08:29I did not either.
08:30Is that a good thing, though, that he's their second best player at this point?
08:33I mean, you're five and four.
08:35Yeah.
08:35I don't think there's any way to put a negative spin on what Jonathan Kaminga has looked like this year because, frankly, if you do go back to before the season,
08:48this offseason, with how it sounded from fans and media, there was no way in my mind that it would look this cohesive with him this quickly.
09:00And that questions about him wouldn't be being asked in the locker room after every game.
09:05But Jimmy Butler is your second best player, though.
09:07But he hasn't played like it thus far.
09:09But he's won you some games, and it's just funny.
09:11I won't pull anybody's ID, but all the people now whispering sweet nothings about Kaminga when four or five months ago the dude couldn't play is just funny.
09:20But now we're ready to anoint him the second best.
09:22Jimmy Butler is your second best player.
09:24We're just analyzing.
09:24Right after Steph.
09:25No, I'm just saying.
09:26But Jimmy's been coasting.
09:28He had that great game where he had the 16 free throws.
09:30He controls the game.
09:32He does, but he picks and chooses his spots.
09:34And I think with that comes large stretches where you're like, is Jimmy going to do anything?
09:38And I love the guy.
09:39I think he's great.
09:40It's just as their age, they have to pick and choose their spots.
09:44And he did that last year, too, when they first acquired him.
09:46We were all waiting.
09:46Hey, where's playoff Jimmy, right?
09:48That was the whole thing.
09:49We kept waiting and waiting, and then he got hurt.
09:51And unfortunately, when Steph went down, everyone was looking at Jimmy Butler.
09:54Hey, Jimmy, save us.
09:55Well, it's hard to do that against Anthony Edwards and Julius Reyes.
09:58Yeah, and hard to do that with what I think was actually a really bad tailbone injury.
10:04I do not think he was at his best at all.
10:07And Stiney's laughing at it because that's what he does.
10:10But anyway, here, let's go through the six of us.
10:13And, I mean, if you want to whittle it down to one word or a phrase or whatever to really capture a concern that you're feeling in this moment, Guru, what would you say?
10:24Dribble penetration.
10:25Guards that can ha-ha, and we don't have any ha-ha to combat it.
10:29That's a concern.
10:30We don't have any Thundercats?
10:32We're working on them.
10:33Thundercats in the making, but that's a concern.
10:35And we got guys off the practice squad.
10:37Quentin Jackson, who?
10:39And then Robbins.
10:41He used to be a warrior, Butch.
10:43Oh, boy.
10:43And he gave us the business.
10:44That's a concern.
10:46And I'm not saying it can't be rectified or remied or fixed, but, man, that's bothersome.
10:52Donnie, what would you say?
10:53The biggest concern?
10:54Yeah.
10:54They can't put five guys out on the floor night after night after night that they can rely on that is better than the other team night after night after night.
11:07And why do you think that is?
11:09Why do I think that is?
11:11You think that's a health thing?
11:11Because they're not going to be able to throw a consistent lineup out there night after night after night because they've got a lot of young players who will be inconsistent night after night after night.
11:25They'll be more consistent than the other guys, but there's going to be a lot of nights where three or four guys play pretty well and four guys don't, and we'll see if they can win them.
11:42So, what would you say?
11:43What would you say?
11:43I'm going to play off of that to an extent, and I wanted to borrow from Priest with the they're too old, but it's not that they're too old, but Steph Curry, if he plays 70 games, you're going to have, of those 70, you're going to have probably 30 are elite level Steph.
11:5920 are, oh my God, you're still really good, and then 15 to 20 of what we saw the other night where he just isn't as able to be as great as he needs to be as he was when he was younger.
12:11So, it doesn't mean Steph's not amazing.
12:13He is, but you're not going to be amazing three or four times a week.
12:17So, if he's not, then the other guys next up, Jimmy, he's kind of in the same boat.
12:22Draymond doesn't score.
12:23Kaminga has been awesome, but I think you're going to rely too much on the second and third tier guys.
12:30to step up and be that.
12:32I'm going to point to two things that are on the side of the ball that we tend to not spend any time on.
12:37Guru, I know you did, but the two D words for me right now are defense and Draymond.
12:43Like, Draymond's hitting his three-point shot, but at the other end, physically, this brilliant defender that he's been in guarding people bigger than him through the years,
12:55I don't know if I see that right now and see that lasting for the entire year.
13:03There are some things when you watch the way his body is moving right now.
13:06He's actually the one, and I know he's the youngest of the big three,
13:11but he's the one from an age perspective and because of what this team asks him to do,
13:17I worry about his body and his output on the defensive end more than I do Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry.
13:24I think their number one problem is rim protection.
13:27I think all the things Guru's bringing up,
13:29Dallas had those problems a couple years ago as well,
13:31but they had bigs that you funnel to at the rim, and they're able to alter shots, force more kickouts,
13:39you know, get more stops in the paint.
13:42And I look at Quinn Post.
13:44I like him, but he's probably a backup.
13:46I like Trace Jackson Davis.
13:49He's 6'9".
13:49Boy, I'd love him to be 7'0".
13:51You know, like, if they could get a legitimate rim runner
13:54and a guy that could get two feet in the paint on defense
13:57and be able to just stand there and alter shots, I think it changes their entire team.
14:02And I think it can offset their lack of a secondary perimeter defender.
14:06Mine would be Jimmy Butler's health.
14:08This is a guy that the Warriors got when he barely even played with the Miami Heat last year.
14:13There was the freshest version that we saw of Jimmy Butler when they acquired him.
14:17And I'm concerned if he could play a full season.
14:19Clearly he can't already.
14:21He has back soreness.
14:22We're three weeks into the season.
14:24I have concern there.
14:24And then Steve Kerr spoke about it with you guys just an hour ago, Willard and Dibbs.
14:28The turnovers, man.
14:29I mean, in this league, I don't care if it's the Washington Wizards, New Orleans Pelicans.
14:34That play yesterday on the inbounds pass late in the third quarter,
14:37when it was GP2 just throwing it, who was it?
14:39Buddy Heald just clanks off his hands like they don't even care.
14:44Like, that cannot happen in a game like that when they didn't have Damanis Sabonis,
14:49they didn't have Keegan Murray, they didn't have Zach Levine,
14:52and they had 50-year-old DeMar DeRozan and Russell Westbrook.
14:56And those guys were not making the mistakes late in that game.
14:59So it's the turnovers.
15:00You know, it's funny you bring up the Draymond thing.
15:02I've been very critical of Draymond.
15:03I also acknowledge how amazing he is.
15:05He's an all-time type of a player.
15:07He looks so sluggish right now.
15:09And then I see what's going on with Klay Thompson in Dallas,
15:12and I just wonder.
15:13Well, I don't know what's as severe as Draymond.
15:15I just wonder, like, not everyone gets to play like LeBron into their 40s.
15:21That's why he's the unicorn.
15:22And Steph's amazing.
15:24He's amazing.
15:24But to think that Draymond was going to age gracefully when he's the one wearing
15:29and tearing and banging with guys 6 inches and 50 pounds heavier than him,
15:34he looks a little sluggish.
15:35I am worried.
15:36He's still impactful.
15:37He's extremely important.
15:38But their best lineup right now with this roster is him at the small ball five,
15:43but it wears him down.
15:44So it's like a double-edged sword.
15:47Well, who else are you going to play at the five?
15:48Because Quinton Post is not an interior defender, and TJD can do it,
15:53but you can't have him play offense.
15:55He's brought in somebody.
15:55Stibbs from Boston.
15:56He is an absolute cardboard cutout.
15:59You watch Al Horford.
16:01You want to talk about Stiff?
16:02They're isolating him on the perimeter.
16:04They're getting the switches that they want.
16:06He looks stiff, Joe.
16:07And they are going at him.
16:09Last night, forget his shot.
16:10Just forget the shot.
16:11I got you.
16:11They went at him over and over, just like the Milwaukee Bucks did.
16:15And Indiana did.
16:16These teams are attacking him simultaneously.
16:18The East knows Jimmy Butler really well.
16:20They put a bigger defender on him.
16:22You were talking about where Jimmy's been.
16:24That's something that I think the Western Conference teams are going to try to do.
16:27Blue and Gold Summit from Jack's Restaurant and Bar in Pleasant Hill here on 95.7.
16:32And the game, the whole gang is here.
16:36Yay!
16:37What a crowd.
16:40Stiney and Goo and Shasky and Spadoni and Willard and Dibbs all together again and all of you.
16:45And we appreciate you coming out here.
16:47And, look, we're not going to run from this at all.
16:51Let's have a little conversation.
16:53Let's spend a few minutes on nothing but Jonathan Kaminga.
16:57How are you all feeling about Jonathan Kaminga right now?
17:00Let's go.
17:01Wow.
17:03Wow.
17:04JK.
17:05Right, right.
17:06Which is incredible considering the lightning rod that he was literally just as recently as three weeks ago.
17:14So, let's start.
17:15Let's actually ask it that way.
17:18Each of us up here, how has your opinion of Kaminga changed in these nine games?
17:26Spadoni, what would you say?
17:27I mean, I don't know if it's changed fully because I always thought the best version of this Warriors team includes this version of Jonathan Kaminga.
17:34Now, this version we didn't see last year, the facilitating, the actively getting rebounds, being on the boards, all of that has been so refreshing to see.
17:43And I've been on this.
17:44I think acquiring Jimmy Butler has unlocked Jonathan Kaminga.
17:47There needed to be a separate voice, a different type of leader than what was already here.
17:53Clearly, Steph wasn't getting to him.
17:54Clearly, Draymond wasn't getting to him.
17:56The head coach wasn't getting to him.
17:58They needed someone else that had gravitas that has been there and done that.
18:02And that's been Jimmy Butler.
18:03JK has spoken about it.
18:04Jimmy Butler has spoken about it.
18:05And the head coach, Steve Kerr, has talked about it.
18:07So, Jimmy Butler unlocking Jonathan Kaminga, I think, has been a very pleasant surprise.
18:11Let's bounce around a little bit.
18:12Dibbs, what would you say?
18:13Well, I was bullish coming in, and I told you all the time in the summer that I thought it could work.
18:17I thought that he could come back and be impactful.
18:20I thought that they could make it work with Jimmy Butler.
18:22Did Mark agree?
18:23No, he went back and forth.
18:25No, he did not.
18:26And you know what?
18:27For all of the positivity that I was spouting, and normally he's the positive, I'm the negative, I thought it could work.
18:33But it's worked even way beyond my most positive possible expectations.
18:38And it's not to say that it's going to be this and even more and beyond, but I think he's shown enough now to where, why would you even think about trading him at the deadline?
18:47If you trade him, you're going to be trying to get this kind of a player.
18:51We'll get to that in a second.
18:52Oh, you're damn right we will.
18:54Guru, you've always loved the kid.
18:55What's up?
18:56Well, you know what, and I've got to be careful here, I want to use the word, and I'm not his family or his parent, but I'm proud.
19:03Because he's rebounding, there's nothing athletically he's doing to where I'm blown away because I knew he had it.
19:10But to basically buy in, I'll go poker, buy in and do the things that he hadn't, there you go, hadn't checked the box.
19:17I'm proud, and also I'm not good at this in life, and my kids can attest to this, and I'm trying my best, and I'm getting better.
19:24Preparing for the future.
19:26I love Steph and Dre, and they're not going anywhere, but the reality is one day they will, and now I feel like, to Spadoni's point and Dibbs' point, he's going nowhere.
19:35And when you just step back and you sip on that margarita and you think about the Warriors in six or seven years, Jonathan Kaminga could be a part of that.
19:43And it's early nine games, but he's answering every question.
19:47Not perfect, but he's a guy that should be a part of your future.
19:50To ask you, what would you say?
19:52I'm going to use a cross-sport analogy.
19:54Because I think, like, there's this, like, a camp of people, J.K. could always do this.
19:58J.K. could never do this.
20:01He's gotten better, and I feel like it reminds me of Alex Smith.
20:04Alex Smith, we were ready to throw out the door.
20:06I was done with him.
20:07I did the full emotional circle.
20:10I was rooting for him.
20:11I was done with him.
20:12He can never play on my team.
20:14He's got one foot out the door.
20:15Then he came back, and he bought in, and he got the right coach, and they believed in him.
20:20And then he became a good player.
20:22He was not a good player before.
20:23He became a good player.
20:25I feel like I'm watching similar types of things.
20:28The archetype happened for J.K.
20:30You could see the flashes, but you could also see the turnovers.
20:34The bad shots moving to the spot that Steph occupies.
20:37Not playing defense off ball and falling asleep.
20:40All the little things he's doing better.
20:42He's got to clean up the turnovers.
20:43But the playmaking has been amazing.
20:46He had a pass to Will Richard yesterday when Will Richard went baseline.
20:49I don't think he makes that pass the last four years.
20:52I agree completely.
20:52And I hear this.
20:53Look, he's always been this, and I've argued with Bonte about it.
20:56He's gotten better.
20:57Eric Armstead got better over four years.
20:59Jimmy Ward got better.
21:00Alex Smith got better.
21:02Steph Curry got better over time.
21:03But J.K. has gotten a lot better, and I feel like it's all clicked this year.
21:07I'm really happy for him.
21:08Well, I think in any way, we'll do a whisper celebration if we can get him to do one.
21:16It's my favorite.
21:17Anyway, to me, in any relationship, the last thing that comes is trust.
21:29And what I see, and there's no doubt, probably on this table right here of the six of us,
21:34I've been the hardest on Jonathan Kaminga.
21:37No doubt about it.
21:38And it comes down to this.
21:41It's not ever, for me, been about the arc of how good he could be.
21:46It was always about, can you play the way this team wants you and needs you to play right now?
21:53And I've arrived at a spot where, A, I certainly didn't think he could do it this quickly,
21:58and he's doing it.
21:59But, B, what I'm actually most impressed with of all the Jonathan Kaminga stuff
22:06has nothing to do with what we're seeing on the court.
22:09This guy has become the lightning rod of Bay Area sports for over a year
22:15from a different country.
22:17At age 22, he never caused a problem.
22:21He never lost his mind.
22:24He never had an outburst.
22:27He never, never, never.
22:28Now, look, it's pro sports.
22:30You still need to eventually go out there and do the things that are successful,
22:33and now we're seeing that.
22:35But, my goodness, he deserves a lot of credit for all summer.
22:39However, while we're yelling about him being a king or a son,
22:43he apparently was studying how to become a better warrior.
22:47And I love that part of the story.
22:49I think Spadoni believes Jimmy Butler as a big part of this.
22:52Yeah, absolutely.
22:53He is.
22:54You're right.
22:54Well, they've spoken about it, and I just feel like if you look at the landscape of this team
22:58right now, who's closest to the style of play of Jonathan Kaminga?
23:01Now, this version of Jimmy, no, but that style of play, you could look at a guy like Jimmy
23:07and say, you know what?
23:08I could be like that and better at one point.
23:11Now, Jimmy Butler's a Hall of Famer, best player on two teams that went to the finals,
23:14but that type of player and something about having an outsider's voice, it helps.
23:19I don't know, man.
23:20Like, when you come into an already established place like Golden State,
23:24it's hard to level some of these guys that are just used to winning at the highest level.
23:29Well, Jimmy's been on how many different teams and had, like, how many different?
23:32Bulls, Minnesota, 76ers, Miami Heat, Warriors.
23:36And think about all the different young players that he took under his wing.
23:40Totally.
23:41Think of all the different, the Tyler Heroes of the world, the Andrew Wiggins of the world.
23:44Now, all those things ended up being combustible towards the end.
23:48So, I just credit Jimmy to a lot of this, and the willingness of J.K. and Jimmy to work together
23:54in this offseason has been huge.
23:55Tiny, how's your opinion of him changed in nine games?
23:59Well, I've got to go back to the beginning.
24:03Jonathan Kaminga had no clue how to play basketball in the NBA when he came into the league at 18.
24:09And over the course of three or four years, to me, it became obvious that he has a lot of talent,
24:15a lot of ability.
24:16What he's proved to me this year, and only this, is that, you know what?
24:21I think he can be a starter on a good team.
24:26That's all he's accomplished this year, to my way of thinking.
24:31Because up until this point, he hasn't started all the games.
24:35He's basically come off the bench.
24:37So now he's starting, and you know what?
24:40He's beginning to show me, wow.
24:42He's thinking about, it's becoming less about his game and more about how he fits into the team.
24:50And so that's a great start.
24:53Are you surprised the vets have been so warming to him, Stiney, this year, after everything that happened this summer?
25:00Yeah, I guess, but I shouldn't be surprised because they need him.
25:05Yeah.
25:06Real quick, yes or no, all six of us, on Super Bowl Sunday, after the trade deadline, is Jonathan Kaminga a warrior?
25:15Hell yes, in my Marshawn Lynch voice.
25:18No.
25:19Yes.
25:20No.
25:21I think they get an extension done before then.
25:23Man.
25:23Yes.
25:23I really do.
25:24Yes, as well.
25:25You say no.
25:26Because I just look big picture all the time, and we're only nine games in.
25:31Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
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