00:00And Isabel, as Esther said there, it is a fragile ceasefire deal.
00:04We know that. But actually, somehow it's holding together to some extent at the moment.
00:12But Turkey has been so vocal about Israel.
00:16They have openly said that Israel was committing genocide inside of Gaza.
00:22And we've heard a lot coming from Turkey.
00:25But what are they hoping to achieve with these talks?
00:30There's so much we still don't know about the ceasefire at the moment.
00:34I mean, there's so many probably egos at play as well in all of this.
00:39Let's not forget in geopolitics, because for President Erdogan,
00:42there is a huge opportunity here to cement his nation as a significant Islamic power in the region.
00:50And, you know, there's a lot of argument that will say that that's the right thing,
00:55that it certainly should be Islamic-majority countries that are responsible for, you know,
00:59restoring civilian and, you know, basic utilities.
01:04And the Palestinians sort of getting back on their feet should be led in this way.
01:09But let's not forget this is also about power plays and positioning.
01:14And it will be very interesting to see,
01:15because of the outspoken criticism that has come from Turkey of Israel,
01:20but in the past also, Turkey's fractured relationship with the West.
01:24You know, it's a bit love-hate.
01:25Sometimes things are good.
01:28We've seen Trump praising Turkey's role in accepting his peace deal.
01:32But, you know, the European Union have stalled any talks of Turkey joining for various reasons.
01:39And so they are difficult, fractured relations.
01:41And it builds on what Esther was saying, really, that there are, you know,
01:45this is a very tentative and tenuous alliance that's been created
01:50between, if you like, the Middle East and the West.
01:54And, you know, there are very testing times ahead, I think.
