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00:00We're asking, how are the Niners 6-3?
00:03Like, how would you answer that?
00:04You know, like, to what would you attribute a 6-3 record?
00:09Let's go to Tom in Sonoma.
00:10Hi, Tom, thanks for the call.
00:13Hey, Willard. Hey, Dibs. Happy Monday, guys.
00:16Indeed.
00:16So, I love your question.
00:19I say it's the third easiest schedule in the NFL.
00:24The teams they've played are average or below average.
00:28And they haven't played a top contender.
00:32Brock Purdy, I feel I'm concerned because he's going to have some rust.
00:37He is not up to game time speed.
00:40And you're right, that could be a big issue trying to get there
00:44because you can't do it in practice.
00:47That's what I got to say, guys.
00:48Tom, can I ask you something real quick?
00:51I'm not going to refute the comment, but I'm interested by it.
00:55Quote, they haven't faced a top contender.
00:59Rams and Seahawks don't count?
01:01Tampa?
01:03Well, I consider Tampa and I consider Rams right now average teams.
01:09Average? You think the Rams are average?
01:12Yeah, because when I look at Detroit and Buffalo, I put them above average.
01:18Interesting. Okay.
01:20Yeah. Tom, thanks. Appreciate it.
01:22Their opponents that they've faced so far have a winning percentage of 466.
01:26They have played three teams with six wins.
01:29They played Jacksonville with five wins.
01:32Houston with three wins.
01:33And then the Giants with two and New Orleans with one.
01:36And Atlanta with three as well.
01:37Atlanta has three, yeah.
01:37Their opponents are 34 and 39 on the year.
01:40Yeah, no, I'm not here to tell you that it's a great schedule,
01:43but I'm agreeing with what you said earlier, which is I actually think it is low-key a harder schedule
01:51than what we made it out to be before the year started.
01:54No doubt. No doubt.
01:55And of the remaining eight games, they play Seattle and the Rams.
01:59They have six wins.
02:01Carolina is a winning team.
02:02Chicago is a winning team.
02:03Indy is a winning team.
02:05Those are all remaining.
02:06So, of the remaining eight games, there are five against teams with a winning record.
02:11And Chicago is better than we thought.
02:13Carolina is better than we thought.
02:14Indianapolis might be the best team in football.
02:17Nobody saw that coming.
02:18So, at the end of the year, the schedule will look,
02:21and it will have been harder than what we thought back in August.
02:24Yeah, I agree.
02:25I still don't think Carolina and Chicago are great football teams.
02:29I think that, you know, given some measure of health by the 49ers
02:34and the fact that both those games are at Levi's Stadium,
02:36I think those are games that they should win or they will be favored in.
02:39But they are lose-able, right?
02:42They're not pushovers, I guess.
02:44And I think we thought at least Carolina was definitely going to be.
02:49Green Bay learned that yesterday, even though I think that that was a little fluky
02:54with the way that one sort of played out.
02:57So, yeah, look, I think that there's some tough games left.
03:00There's some ones, you know, Tennessee stands out as something real easy.
03:04But when you just factor in that four of your 17 games are against the Rams and Seahawks,
03:11just that alone, and then when you start throwing in the Colts and the Bucs
03:18and a few of these other teams that might be, as you said, better than we thought,
03:24throw in Tampa Bay, and then your mid-range stuff that's like, well, these aren't great teams,
03:30but they'll certainly give you a damn game.
03:33That's where Jacksonville and Chicago and Carolina and even Arizona for me sit.
03:39And so the whole, like, oh, dude, it's a walkover.
03:42How many of those do you have on the schedule?
03:45I'd really argue maybe three.
03:49Remaining or for the whole year?
03:51No, for the whole year.
03:52New Orleans, that's kind of a walkover.
03:54I think Tennessee, and by the way, it doesn't mean you're going to win them for sure,
03:58but that's kind of like, okay, New Orleans, Tennessee, and maybe yesterday.
04:04Yep.
04:05But I didn't feel that way going into it.
04:07I did not feel that way going into it.
04:10That's the first home game that Jackson Dart has lost.
04:14Like, he beat the Chargers and the Eagles in that stadium already this year.
04:17And what was the spread?
04:18Two and a half?
04:19Two and a half.
04:20Right.
04:20So Vegas is telling you that it was not a walkover.
04:23Right.
04:23And you look at the schedule back in August, and I looked at that game as, oh, yeah,
04:27you're going to beat the Giants.
04:28Like, whether or not Jackson Dart is the starter or not by then,
04:31nobody thought that Cam Scadaboo would be as good as he was, and then he got hurt.
04:35Malik Nabors, great wide receiver.
04:37He's hurt.
04:38We didn't know that you wouldn't have Bosa or Fred Warner or Pearsall.
04:42You probably figured you may not have Iyuk,
04:44and I don't know if he plays at all this year, honestly.
04:46The more I think about it, I mean, he may, they may, like, open his window,
04:51and then they may just close his window.
04:53Or they may not.
04:54By the way, among the news items today,
04:58Brandon Iyuk's practice window will not open.
05:01And I know that, you know, Kyle Shanahan had said a few weeks ago
05:05the whole week 10-ish kind of a comment for Brandon Iyuk.
05:10Well, this is week 10, and the practice window is not even open.
05:14So that doesn't mean, like, if the practice window had opened,
05:17that would not have necessarily meant that Brandon was going to play this week.
05:22That just means that he would have started to practice.
05:24And once you open that window, then you need to activate the player within 21 days,
05:28or then it goes away and the player has to go fully on IR for the year.
05:34So this would suggest to me that not only does he not play this week,
05:38I don't think the 49ers think that he's even two games away, most likely.
05:42Yeah, and to me it makes the most sense to open his window
05:45to where you can use the bye week as part of the 21 days,
05:49and that way coming out of the bye, if he's then ready to go for week 14,
05:54you could activate him.
05:55I'm less concerned about Brandon Iyuk and more concerned about Ricky Pearsall,
05:59who continues to not be even close, it seems, to making an appearance.
06:04Well, they said that he had a chance this week.
06:06Here's exactly what Shanahan said on Pearsall.
06:09They couldn't confirm today he'd be available this week,
06:11so we'll take it day by day, but continue to evaluate him as this week goes.
06:14And then there were further reports that said he has a chance.
06:17He has a chance to play this week.
06:19But he could not confirm that he'd be ready, was the words,
06:23if you missed what Kyle said there right at the beginning of that comment.
06:26Could not confirm that he'd be available.
06:28Well, how could he?
06:29I mean, he doesn't know until Wednesday, tomorrow's an off day.
06:32They come in for treatment on Monday.
06:33Sure, so you come in for treatment and then...
06:36They saw him today.
06:37Right, until you see him on Wednesday on the field,
06:39you have no idea how he's going to look
06:41or whether or not he can even make it through a full practice on Wednesday.
06:44And, you know, until he goes through a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
06:48there's no way they're going to put him out there.
06:49And that's been the same story with Brock Purdy.
06:52If Brock Purdy can't take the first-team snaps on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday,
06:57then you probably won't see him again this weekend.
06:59So the rest of the sort of newsworthy stuff today,
07:03Mikel Williams did suffer a torn ACL.
07:09Was it an MCL also or a meniscus that they added?
07:11Meniscus.
07:12Meniscus also torn.
07:13But they sort of, Shanahan referred to it as kind of a good one, a clean one.
07:18He feels like it'll be fully healed and ready to go next year.
07:22They asked if the Mikel Williams injury affects their trade deadline plans.
07:27No, that hasn't changed anything.
07:29I know those guys are working around the clock on just any possibilities and stuff,
07:32as they do every single year.
07:33But, no, this happening hasn't changed anything.
07:36I disagree.
07:37I don't believe you.
07:38Yeah, I do.
07:39I mean, I think that they were going to look to bring one or two people in anyway,
07:43regardless of it.
07:45So just because Mikel Williams got hurt doesn't make them more aggressive.
07:49I think that they were going to be aggressive anyway.
07:51So the fact that you lose another body,
07:54maybe it just means that you're going to look to add an additional player.
07:58I don't think that if Mikel Williams didn't get hurt,
08:01that they wouldn't be active in the trade market.
08:03I agree with you.
08:04So to that extent, I don't think that affects it at all.
08:06Here's how I think it affects it.
08:08I think that they would have been on the trade market even with Mikel Williams.
08:11Now I think they're definitely going to make a deal.
08:15I think there was a scenario where last week you get Keyon White
08:19and you pick up Cleland Ferrell.
08:21You go get two sacks.
08:23Ferrell's one of the guys who gets it.
08:25And you're bringing Bryce Huff back this week.
08:28You could have said, you know what?
08:30There just isn't quite the deal out there for us.
08:33So we really value our draft picks and we're getting Bryce Huff back.
08:37So this kind of gets us back to where we were at the Atlanta game
08:41and we chased Pennix really nicely that night
08:44and we're going to get back to that.
08:46Let's roll.
08:47And now with Williams going out,
08:49and don't forget that Eti or Gros Matos also hit IR
08:52by getting injured in practice on Friday.
08:55So those two bodies going down.
08:58Yes, Bryce Huff is coming back,
08:59but I think there is literally no way that the Niners do not make
09:05some sort of a defensive line move by 1 o'clock tomorrow.
09:09And if they don't, count me as very, very disappointed.
09:14Yeah, they need bodies.
09:15So I don't think that they're going to make a major move.
09:17I think it'll be, like you said, maybe a middle move.
09:20And I know today there was an edge rusher traded for a fifth-round pick
09:25that could get bumped up to a fourth.
09:27That's the kind of move that I would anticipate,
09:29as well as maybe another plucking off the practice squad
09:33because you need more than just one body for a defensive line group
09:36that's getting pretty thin.
09:38Yeah.
09:38No, there's no question, but I think the other thing I've noticed
09:42about this trade deadline chatter, there's a lot.
09:45First of all, there's a lot of teams that want a pass rusher,
09:47but there's a lot of them available, supposedly.
09:51There's a lot of them that are the subject,
09:54and we've seen two go already today.
09:57Because we woke up to the news that Jalen Phillips had been traded
10:00from the Miami Dolphins to the Philadelphia Eagles for a third-round pick.
10:04That's sort of what's at the top end of the market.
10:08The really, really big names that you hear I just don't even think are available,
10:11Max Crosby, Trey Hendrickson.
10:13I don't think those guys are going anywhere.
10:15But the Dolphins are open for business.
10:16The Titans are definitely open for business.
10:19I know you had a conversation, it sounds like, over the weekend
10:21that makes you think that the Jets are not open for business,
10:24but I think the Jets might be a little bit, at least a little bit,
10:28open for business.
10:29I just thought with Quinn and Williams.
10:31Oh, yeah, they're not getting Quinn and Williams.
10:33I don't think that they're going to get rid of Quinn and Williams.
10:35Yeah, I agree.
10:35So if the Jets want to do other smaller moves, it's possible.
10:39But when I look at the Jets' situation,
10:42it seems to me that with a new coaching staff,
10:45they're going to be more interested in holding on to their controllable pieces.
10:49And their defense has been okay at times.
10:53And, you know, they're coming off the buy
10:54and coming off their first win of the year.
10:56So I think that with a new regime, new coaching staff,
11:00you're going to be less likely to really try to strip that thing down
11:03because you need good players.
11:06And if you have whatever good players you actually currently have,
11:09you don't want to just trade them for draft picks
11:11because draft picks are unknown.
11:13Quinn and Williams is a known commodity.
11:15He's a good player.
11:16Yep, yep, probably too good of a player.
11:19I mean, Quinn and Williams was the pick behind Bosa, right?
11:23He was the third pick in the draft.
11:25Right.
11:27And, you know, he is nowhere near as good as Nick Bosa.
11:30But that's, again, that's shopping at the top floor.
11:35And I just don't think the Niners would do that.
11:37Now, his teammate, Will McDonald, has three sacks
11:39and is a controllable, how old is he?
11:45Will McDonald, 40 career games.
11:50He's been in the league for three years.
11:52You know, he's been a starter for the Jets both last year and this year.
11:57He is a defensive end.
11:59He is a pass rusher.
12:00He has 16.5 career sacks over three seasons, two of them as a starter.
12:07It's not an expensive play.
12:09He's not owed a lot of money.
12:11That probably cost you a six-round pick, maybe.
12:14Maybe a fifth-round pick.
12:16Yeah.
12:16That's the kind of guy I'd love to see the 49ers go get, tonight or tomorrow.
12:21Yeah.
12:22Interesting you mentioned Quinn and Williams.
12:25That draft went.
12:26Kyler Murray, Nick Bosa.
12:28Quinn and Williams.
12:30And then you know who went fourth?
12:31Ooh.
12:32I do not remember.
12:33Current niner.
12:34Really?
12:35Cleland Furrell.
12:36Did he really?
12:37Number four overall.
12:38I didn't realize he was that high.
12:40Yeah.
12:40I was doing a show.
12:43I was doing the show.
12:44You were just sitting there to be actually factual.
12:47And we were at Raiders camp.
12:49That's my Greg Papa, for those of you scoring at home.
12:51And we had Cleland Furrell on the show.
12:53He came by the table out there up in Napa.
12:56So I got to meet the young man.
12:58Well, that makes him your guy.
13:00Well, kind of.
13:00He is now.
13:01Now he's back.
13:02No, that's your guy.
13:03He was not my discovery.
13:04That's how it works.
13:05That's what I'm told.
13:06Yeah.
13:07He's my guy.
13:07Yeah, that's your guy.
13:08Big sack yesterday.
13:09Yeah.
13:09And man, you see these guys up close and whatever.
13:13He's in like a t-shirt and after practice.
13:15Humongous human beings.
13:16Gigantic.
13:17Yeah.
13:17Gigantic.
13:18But all business, too.
13:19Like 261 pounds of just pure business.
13:22Not a lot of excess in there.
13:25Cleland Furrell.
13:25Cleland Furrell.
13:26Yeah.
13:27Or Furrell, Ferrell.
13:28Whatever.
13:28It goes back and forth.
13:29Do we have any confirmation on is it Ferrell or Furrell?
13:32It's Furrell.
13:33Okay.
13:33Believe me.
13:34Oh, right.
13:34As a guy who's, you know, when you go that far back.
13:37Yeah.
13:37You've met him.
13:37Yeah.
13:38So just looking at the Niners and the D-line, yeah, they need probably one or two, maybe
13:43even three more bodies because, like the snap counts yesterday, Okawano played 72%, and Mikel
13:50Williams only played 51%.
13:52Yeah, but Mikel was there for mud.
13:53Like, he didn't get hurt until the fourth quarter.
13:55Right.
13:55But even at that, that's my point, is he only played about half the game.
13:58You get Bryce Hoff back, though.
13:59That's one body.
14:00Yep.
14:00That's one extra body.
14:01Yeah.
14:01And I think that, you know, Alfred Collins has been good.
14:03Kalia Davis has been good.
14:04But you need somebody on that edge who can just absolutely pin him back and go out there
14:09and get him.
14:098-8, 9-5-7, 9-5-70, kicking around, what should the Niners, what would you like to see them
14:16do at the deadline, and why do you think they're 6-3?
14:21How have they arrived here?
14:22For me, these two questions are completely related because if you believe you've arrived
14:29at 6-3 because you are, in some way, shape, or form, effective and actually good, then you
14:39owe it to this team to do something.
14:41Not to go all in.
14:43I'm not crazy.
14:44I don't think the 49ers are a Super Bowl contender.
14:47But to anybody who sort of brings up that point, like, ooh, you're not a Super Bowl contender,
14:53I don't know what your answer is.
14:54I'm like, I don't care.
14:57Honestly.
14:58Honestly, I don't.
14:59That does not knock me off of the season.
15:02I don't believe that an entertainment entity should run itself that way, as if to say,
15:09we're here to win a championship only, and if we don't feel like we can do that this
15:14year, then everything below that is a waste of our time, and we should just completely
15:19go all in on the future.
15:22Because I think if you do that, then 95% of the time of your existence, you're going
15:28to be all in on the future.
15:29And that's not fair.
15:30That's not fair to fans.
15:31It's not fair to veteran players on the team.
15:34There's value to me in the 49ers making the playoffs.
15:37And then you take your chances and see what happens when you get there.
15:41Because you have no idea what kind of ride or run you're going to get if and when you
15:45get into the playoffs.
15:46You don't know what other quarterbacks are going to get hurt.
15:49You don't know.
15:49Hell, the Niners could win this weekend and still compete to win the division.
15:53And now, now you're a top four seed and you're hosting people in the playoffs.
15:58So these things to me are possible.
16:00Probable, maybe not, but possible.
16:02And you have to, you have to play for that.
16:05I don't even know what that means, to be honest.
16:08Super Bowl contender.
16:10Like if you are the Jets and you're one and seven and you just won your first game, okay.
16:14You're not a Super Bowl contender and Miami and Tennessee and Cleveland and Houston and
16:21blah, blah, blah.
16:22We can run through the list.
16:22I don't even want to use my, uh, my carbon dioxide blowing out air to even list those
16:28teams.
16:28Fine.
16:29If you're a team that makes the playoffs, you are a Super Bowl contender.
16:33Last year, Washington, they became a Super Bowl contender because they went to the conference
16:38championship game.
16:39And if they win that game and they go to the Super Bowl, well, then you're now by definition
16:44actually contending for the Super Bowl.
16:47So the whole thing about you not being a Super Bowl contender is lazy radio and it's nonsense.
16:53Are you a team that can make the playoffs?
16:55If the answer is yes.
16:56And I think the Niners are in that group.
16:57Absolutely.
16:58Then go ahead.
17:00Get in the tournament, win a game, win another game, win another game.
17:05And now it's a home game in the Super Bowl.
17:06You're a Super Bowl contender.
17:07I don't disagree with you.
17:09No, I don't disagree.
17:10It's crap.
17:10No, but you have to, listen, to me, aggressive, but smart.
17:17That's what I want the Niners to do between now and one o'clock.
17:20Yes, you need to bolster your team.
17:23Yes, the reality is whatever you think about the team, they are six and three.
17:27And so, yes, you have to, in some sense, quote unquote, go for it.
17:32But there are different ways of going for it.
17:34There's the caution to the wind, go for it.
17:37Or there is the aggressively smart way of doing it.
17:41The 49ers should not be on any phone call that involves a first or a second round pick.
17:47And probably not a third round pick either.
17:48I don't think that player exists.
17:50I don't think there's anybody like that available.
17:53I think it would be dumb for the 49ers to sort of dance in that space, even if it was.
17:59Because the reality of the matter is, is they do not have the personnel on their roster right now that makes a run like you're talking about likely enough.
18:11If anything is possible, okay, Zaza, anything is possible.
18:17So you allow for that and you help your team.
18:21But you don't get reckless with it.
18:22Don't be stupid about it and start throwing assets away to go for something that's wildly unlikely.
18:29I just thought that's irresponsible to me.
18:30Of course it is.
18:31And the key is going back to 2022 when they traded for Christian McCaffrey.
18:36They didn't throw caution to the wind.
18:38They traded four picks to get a guy and they needed one guy.
18:43They were one player away from, in their mind, being a team that could compete for the Super Bowl.
18:48That defense wound up number one in the league in yards allowed, number one in the league in points allowed.
18:53You had a team that really couldn't run the ball.
18:56So you thought, huh, if we get a running back, a really good one that we can control for a couple of years, he'll help us now.
19:02He'll help us later.
19:04Let's go for it.
19:04Let's get the one guy we need.
19:07They did it.
19:08They went to the conference championship game.
19:10Brock Purdy's arm fell off.
19:11And the rest is history.
19:13My point is, you look at this team and you go, all right, we got six wins.
19:17We're right in the mix.
19:18We should go for it.
19:19Well, you're not one player away.
19:21You need an offensive lineman.
19:24You need a pass rusher or two.
19:26You need a linebacker.
19:28And you might need some help in the secondary as well.
19:30And quite frankly, receiver-wise, you're one more broken rib away from a lot of Sky Moore and a lot of who knows what.
19:37So I don't think you look at this team and think about what you did in 2022, which is, man, if only we could run the ball, dot, dot, dot.
19:45And so you got a running back and you took off.
19:48This team does not have that one need.
19:50And so you have more than one need.
19:52Therefore, you kind of do what you're talking about, which is you make some incremental moves like they've already done.
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