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Inside the Arrest (2025) Season 1 Episode 1- A Deadly Secret

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00:00The arrest is the pivotal moment in any investigation.
00:07If you get it wrong, then it's game over.
00:12Police officer with a taser!
00:18Taser, taser, taser!
00:21Taser, taser!
00:39Everything they're doing is on body-worn video.
00:41Police!
00:43Everything they're doing will be examined by defence lawyers.
00:48They can't make any mistakes.
00:51I haven't done anything wrong.
01:09This video was one of the most surprising admissions of guilt that I've ever seen.
01:14This is not something that they would have been expecting.
01:18It is quite breathtaking.
01:30There's no one in here at the moment.
01:33The police!
01:34Got it.
01:38Stay where you are!
01:39Stay where you are!
01:41Stay where you are, show your showings.
01:44You here?
01:44Ginny?
01:46Yeah.
01:46Ginny?
01:46Yeah.
01:47Oh.
01:49The time is dropped off, you're not drawing a suspicion of murder against Jonathan McCulloch and Lars McCulloch.
01:54OK?
01:55Do you not have to say anything, but in my home defence, you cannot mention, we're in question,
01:58so I just don't want anything to do so I don't have any evidence.
02:00OK?
02:01All right, the rest is necessary for a prompt and effective investigation.
02:03Is there anything in the pocket we should know about?
02:05Yes, there it is.
02:06Can I take you to it?
02:07No, you can tell me.
02:09Er, can you go in there for a second?
02:11Just so I can tell you something.
02:12That was it.
02:13Yeah.
02:14Yeah.
02:15Yeah.
02:16And then, the only reason I said, I need to tell you something about what's upstairs on
02:19the top floor as well.
02:20It's fine.
02:21OK.
02:22I've never seen anybody react to an arrest in the way Virginia did on that day.
02:51John and Lois McCulloch are missing, feared dead.
03:12John was aged 70.
03:14He lived with a number of medical conditions.
03:17He had type 2 diabetes and had been prescribed medication.
03:22And Lois, who was 71, she lived with a mild form of obsessive compulsive disorder and agoraphobia
03:29as well.
03:33For more than four years, no one had seen the couple.
03:37But when too many health appointments were cancelled, the local GP surgery grew concerned and police were alerted.
03:46Thankfully, the police took that very seriously.
03:51These are people that are predominantly housebound that are missing.
03:54Now that's a big concern.
03:59Friends and family had received reassuring messages from John and Lois that they'd moved to the
04:05seaside.
04:06But phone records now revealed the texts were fakes.
04:10They'd been sent from home.
04:11Despite them saying that they're here, there and everywhere, their phones haven't moved.
04:17So those texts have been sent by somebody else who is in that location.
04:23Home is the last location where John and Lois were seen alive.
04:28The house is an end-of-terrace property.
04:33It's set over several different floors.
04:37From an officer's perspective, you wouldn't have had a clue what to expect going into that
04:42property because no one knew.
04:44There would have been a discussion at a high level within the police force about exactly
04:50what would happen.
04:51They would have discussed going and entering the property, protecting any evidence that
04:56was there.
04:57They would need protective suits.
04:59All of these considerations were before scenes of crime entered the property.
05:05What was crucial was to collect the evidence, preserve the evidence and keep it secure.
05:12If you force an entry into somebody's premises, you have all of the exits covered because
05:17people do run away.
05:19They do throw evidence out of the windows.
05:23They aim to arrest the only other person who lives at the house.
05:26The youngest of the McCulloch's five daughters.
05:29One of the pieces of equipment they use is commonly called a big red key.
05:44It's basically a ram and the officers will swing it at the weak points of the door.
05:51It looks quite a rudimentary sort of easy tactic to deploy, but actually you have to be trained
05:57to do it.
05:58And it works very well.
05:59It does seem a bit like overkill.
06:04You would think, wow, this is a middle-aged woman.
06:07But clearly they were wary.
06:08They were worried.
06:10The police.
06:11The police.
06:13They're not going in there pumped full of adrenaline looking for a fight.
06:17They're going in there to be noisy to get compliance.
06:22The police, got it.
06:29looking for a fight. They're going in there to be noisy, to get compliance.
06:32No one in here at the moment. Hold on.
06:35The police. Got it.
06:38And one way to do that is almost to go overboard
06:42in terms of that controlled aggression and noise and command.
06:46Stay where you are. Stay where you are.
06:49Bash the door down. She's got officers behind her, in front of her.
06:53Stay where you are. Show your strength.
06:55She could see this was a real taser and it's going to hurt her.
06:59And then if she didn't comply, then they would fire the taser,
07:03which basically sends two barbs and an electric current into her body.
07:08She must have been like a rabbit in the headlights,
07:10but the whole purpose of that is to get her to the point where she complies immediately
07:14with what those officers are going to do.
07:16Jenny? Yeah. Jenny? Yeah.
07:20The time is 12-12 and you're under a suspicion of murder
07:23against Jonathan McCulloch and Lars McCulloch, OK?
07:26Do you not say anything about my home defence?
07:28Can I just take my comfort?
07:29Can I just take my comfort?
07:30We're in question, so I just want anything to do so.
07:32OK?
07:33What I can see at the top left of the screen is a vase with some flowers.
07:38Now, it's probably unlikely that she's going to grab that and use that as a weapon,
07:41but she could.
07:42So by putting her in handcuffs, that prevents that from happening.
07:45Is there anything in the apartment we should know about?
07:47Yes, there is.
07:48Can I take you to it?
07:49No, you can tell me.
07:50The officers don't want someone who they've just arrested on suspicion
07:53of two counts of murder wandering around and impacting the crime scene
07:58that they'll be investigating.
08:00I need to tell you something about what's upstairs on the top floor as well.
08:02It's fine, isn't it?
08:03Yeah, OK.
08:04First, officers do let Virginia McCulloch return them to the room they smashed their way into
08:13moments earlier.
08:14Oh, my dad's body isn't there.
08:17Right, OK.
08:18Yeah.
08:19So this would have come as a huge shock to the officers.
08:24The first significant thing she says is, my dad's body is in there.
08:29So this is not something that they would have been expecting.
08:32They might have been expecting some protestations of innocence.
08:35They might be expecting her to say that she's not going to say anything until she gets to
08:39the police station.
08:41But she's immediately indicated that the body is still in the house.
08:44Oh, my dad's body isn't there.
08:47Right, OK.
08:48Now, this might be the first time that they realise that the body is still in the house.
08:53And this would have been a huge shock.
08:55But they carry on in a calm, professional way.
08:58Obviously, I'll say...
08:59Where about your arm?
09:00Erm, a little bit more complicated.
09:03OK.
09:04Erm, can I...
09:05That's why I said, can I go upstairs and show you...
09:07Right, can you explain it to us, please?
09:09Because we're trying to preserve...
09:10It's now going to be sent.
09:11So we need to preserve this the best we can.
09:13That house was one big crime scene.
09:17The officers themselves have gone in wearing forensic protection.
09:22There was a balance between being able to secure Virginia safely so they could make the arrest,
09:27and also forensically protect the scene and the evidence within that scene.
09:33Where will we find your mum?
09:34OK, so upstairs there are about five wardrobes.
09:37Yep.
09:38Erm, it's behind the bed but back next to the sink.
09:42She's describing now exactly where her mother's body will be found.
09:48She's just saying, in quite the most cold and dispassionate way,
09:54that her mother's in the wardrobe behind the bed by the sink.
09:59It's...it's so bizarre.
10:01It...it's almost unbelievable.
10:03We didn't know her name was Virginia.
10:21We thought it was Jenny.
10:24In a lot of shops, she was making a nuisance of herself.
10:31Just hanging around, really.
10:33So she would be in here.
10:35Even if we had customers come in, she would stand at the back out of the way,
10:38but she would just loiter.
10:44I'd call her strange.
10:45She was a strange character.
10:48But in here, between just us two, we used to call her Nutty Jenny.
10:56Because she was a bit odd, to say the least.
11:00But not odd enough to ever dream that she would murder her parents.
11:07Ever.
11:15Police have raided a house in the search for a couple missing for four years.
11:19We first heard about it on the Essex radio.
11:26The police.
11:27Officers are believed to have arrested a 35-year-old woman in Pump Hill, Great Baddow, near Chelmsford.
11:34They had mentioned Pump Hill, Great Baddow, so then we knew.
11:41Say where you are.
11:42Say where you are.
11:43Say where you are.
11:44Show me where you are.
11:45Show me where you are.
11:46Show me where you are.
11:47Show me where you are.
11:48That's got to be Nutty Jenny.
11:49The woman's believed to be the daughter of the missing couple.
11:53Right, so I've written.
11:54I, Virginia McCulloch, have informed police constables 77329 Brown and 79387 Bowers after entering
12:05my house on Friday the 15th September 2023 that I murdered my father, John McCulloch,
12:10who was stated was under a bed in the rear ground floor of the house and my mother upstairs
12:16in a cupboard next to the sink.
12:18Wardrobe.
12:19Wardrobe.
12:20It's a double wardrobe.
12:21Right, okay, I'll bring cupboard.
12:22It's like four wardrobes, but it's the one nearest the sink, double wardrobe.
12:26After she'd killed her parents, she decided that the bodies had to stay there in the house
12:32with her, really chilling.
12:36She went out and bought breeze blocks.
12:39Her dad, she kept in the downstairs room, then putting breeze blocks around that in a
12:44makeshift mausoleum, which was covered with blankets and photographs.
12:49It just looks like a bed.
12:51And because of the way in which she wrapped and then protected the body, in the sleeping
12:57bag, in 11 layers of plastic, sealed him up against all of the factors that accelerate
13:06decomposition.
13:07There was no smell, no leakage, none of the things that you would expect from a decomposing
13:11body.
13:12She will have had to carry those breeze blocks up several flights of stairs to be able to
13:17partially conceal the wardrobe that she'd put her mum's body in as well.
13:21And again, she lived with her mum in that house, taped up, wrapped up in that wardrobe for over
13:30four years.
13:31It is surprising that there wasn't that much of a spell.
13:34However, the way that she entombed her parents, she made sure that there was no air that was
13:40able to get in.
13:42The McCullochs had lived not too far from the parade of shops.
13:49They were very well recognised in the local area.
13:53Virginia, who was their youngest daughter, was effectively their carer.
14:00She would apply for credit cards in her father's name.
14:03She applied for the early release of her father's pension.
14:07You know, any way that she could get her hands on their money, she would.
14:14Also in the handbag as well, there's...
14:17And again, cos you're probably going to need to know about it, there's a card in there.
14:23Card one money.
14:25And that's a bank card, where there's a lot of transactions that have taken place.
14:35I've lost a few years.
14:37What?
14:38From money that pertains to my parents.
14:42John and Lois seemed to think that they were losing money, that their money was kind
14:45of disappearing, hemorrhaging almost.
14:47And they spoke to Virginia about this.
14:50But she would always have an excuse, always have a reason, to give her parents the impression
14:55that she was on top of this, and she was going to get their money back for them.
15:02Virginia was heavily involved in online gambling, using a lot of the money that belonged to her parents.
15:10She'd basically stole about £150,000 from her parents.
15:19I think Virginia's lies were starting to catch up with her, and she knew that the game was up.
15:25So she planned for about three months that the only way to continue with the life that she'd created
15:31for herself at her parents' expense was to kill them.
15:34She started to experiment with levels of medicines in drinks.
15:40She bought crushing equipment so she could reduce tablets to powder,
15:45so that they could be secreted in drinks.
15:53On the night of the poisoning, Virginia decided this was it.
15:58And she was going to kill her parents that night.
16:00Some things fell in her favour.
16:03Firstly, her parents slept in separate rooms.
16:05So if one was affected quicker than the other, then they wouldn't know.
16:11So John, her father, was in the habit of having a Guinness and a brandy before he went to bed.
16:17Both quite strongly flavoured drinks, so could easily disguise medicines.
16:22She crushed down some pills, some drugs, and mixed them into his drinks and sent him off to bed to die.
16:35She'd also put that cocktail with no prescription drugs into a drink for her mum.
16:41Virginia then went off to bed, satisfied that her parents would not survive the night.
16:46Virginia woke up at six o'clock, she went to her father's room, and sure enough, there he was, lying in his bed, still lifeless.
17:02He was dead, her plan had worked.
17:05She then went to her mother's room, and to her absolute shock and surprise, she saw her mum sitting up in bed, set of headphones in, listening to the radio.
17:19It hadn't worked. What on earth had gone wrong?
17:22When she looked at the spiked drink, she realised her mother hadn't finished it.
17:28She hadn't consumed enough of this murderous liquid to kill her.
17:34Highlighted actions on taxes, military...
17:36And she's now going to have to rely on her back-up plan, which is a far more violent way of killing someone that she should have been loving and caring for.
17:44Obviously, if she left her mother alive, her mother would know that her father had been poisoned and killed, and there was only one person that could do it.
17:55Her mum had to die.
17:57Requested by Central Convention.
17:59And that's when she got the hammer.
18:01Is in reaction to heightened tensions between...
18:04She went back to the room and started attacking her mum about the head with this hammer.
18:14Chillingly, she would go on to describe that as being like playing the xylophone.
18:19Horrific description of killing anyone, let alone your own mother.
18:24Her mum looking up at her daughter, who should have been there to love and care for her, knowing that actually this person would be taking her life.
18:33And then she suddenly had a thought, this was getting too messy, it was too difficult, it was too violent.
18:39She then retrieved a knife from the kitchen.
18:44Came back to the room and stabbed her mother eight times, seven of them in the chest.
18:51Essex police have confirmed that officers today arrested the daughter of a couple missing for four years.
18:58Virginia McCulloch is suspected of murdering her parents.
19:02The purpose of your arrest is for a prompt effective investigation as well as by questioning you.
19:08We can't do that here. It needs to be done at the police station, alright?
19:11I did know that this would kind of come eventually.
19:19And it's proper that I serve my punishment.
19:24So, yeah.
19:26She was resigned to her fate, but this extraordinary arrest still wasn't over.
19:37What significance are written down there, here now, I've just read it up to you.
19:41Are you happy to sign that, to say that's a true account?
19:43Yeah.
19:44Cheer up, at least you've got the bad guy.
19:59Cheer up, at least you've got the bad guy, is just so cold and so heartless.
20:05I've got no idea where that comes from in a human being.
20:10It's almost like she's trying to reassure him that this isn't quite as bad as you thought it was.
20:17It's actually terrible. It's terrible.
20:20Yet she's trying to make light of the situation.
20:23Cheer up, at least you've got the bad guy.
20:26I'm just waking up today and done my job.
20:29Then the end of that sentence...
20:31I'm just waking up today and done my job.
20:34No.
20:36It's not a lie.
20:37..but we all...
20:39We don't look like what?
20:40I don't look like a double killer.
20:42I don't look like someone who'd kill my parents.
20:44I don't look like somebody who'd hide bodies away for four years.
20:47I'm not going to comment on anything.
20:49It's not my job to comment on it, OK?
20:51He's absolutely right not to engage with her in that way.
20:54He's remained completely professional and detached from her
20:59and what's going on in front of him.
21:01She's making admissions, unbidden admissions,
21:05and that anything that he says at all,
21:07either to influence her to talk more
21:10or to validate her attitude and views,
21:14could be detrimental to the investigation.
21:16No, well, I mean, I deserve to obviously get whatever's coming sentence-wise
21:22because that's the right thing to do.
21:25And that might give me a bit of peace.
21:28I deserve whatever I get sentence-wise because that's the right thing to do.
21:34You killed your parents.
21:36You stole their money.
21:38You lied for years to everybody.
21:41And you're considering the sentence that you might get given
21:44because it's the right thing to do.
21:46There is no connect at all with what she's done.
21:54A woman has pleaded guilty to murdering her mother and father.
21:59Virginia McCulloch, aged 37, of Great Baddow, Essex,
22:06concealed her parents' bodies for more than four years.
22:13Jailing McCulloch for a minimum 36 years,
22:16the judge told her,
22:17your parents were entitled to feel safe in their own beds,
22:21in their own home and from their own daughter.
22:30Yeah, she brought quite a few decorative things from here,
22:33like the jug that could be seen in the footage with the police cam.
22:42It was like a little ceramic jug with some lavender flowers on it
22:45and it had some little gypsophilia artificial buds inside.
22:48And she'd got it perched on the bottom of the balister,
22:50which was a really weird place to put it
22:52because I thought you could have looked it over.
22:54And then in the kitchen there was this, like,
22:56tall, skinny pink glass vase that she'd bought from us as well.
23:01All I was seeing was stuff that she'd bought from us
23:03and it was just weird seeing it there.
23:08It's just sheer utter disbelief, really,
23:11that she was living there with bodies for, what,
23:14four years.
23:23Cheer off, at least you caught the bad guy.
23:26If I was involved in this investigation,
23:27I would never forget this for the rest of my life.
23:30This would be one of those standout investigations
23:33that I would take to the grave.
23:35It's so bizarre.
23:39The way in which it pans out after the arrest
23:41is just like something I've never seen or heard of before.
23:46And I...
23:48I cannot imagine any of those officers will ever forget the day
23:52that they went through the door and found and heard what they did.
23:57Because it's just beyond my experience.
24:04And I would suggest the vast majority of police officers' experience
24:08across this country.
24:10It's a really delicate situation.
24:11It's a really delicate situation.
24:28They really don't want to disturb the normal school morning.
24:45But they have to arrest this man with as minimal disruption as possible.
24:51To keep the arrest low-key, officers, mainly female,
24:58are wearing civilian clothes but concealing a body camera.
25:04The body camera is very important in case the footage is needed
25:09at a subsequent trial.
25:10In this case, it was.
25:12The location, a primary school on the outskirts of town.
25:20It was just before the start of the school day.
25:23There are pupils in the area, there are parents in the area.
25:26They all know Greg Hill.
25:29You certainly don't see many arrests outside the school,
25:31let alone of a headmaster.
25:35I think the reason that most of the officers were women
25:38is to try and blend in.
25:42They wouldn't look out of place at the school.
25:47Police officers probably, I would suggest, go there thinking
25:50this is going to be quite an easy arrest.
25:53He's a headmaster.
25:54He's an educated person with no criminal record.
25:57It's probably going to be a case of we'll arrest him,
26:00put him in a car, go back to the police station,
26:02and it'll all be done very, very low-key.
26:06Hello there, is it Mr Hill?
26:07Yeah.
26:08Hello, Mr Hill.
26:09I'm PC Hollington from Kingston Police Station.
26:11Yeah.
26:12The time is 8.50, I do need to arrest you.
26:13It's in relation to stalking, causing serious alarm and distress.
26:16I don't have to say anything, but it may harm your defence.
26:18If you do not mention one question, something which you later...
26:21No, I know that.
26:22Anything you do say, never give it, never do.
26:23Just stop, I haven't stalked anyone or done anything,
26:25but I do need to phone my union.
26:28I need to go inside, I need to phone my union.
26:29No, no.
26:30No.
26:31No, I'm sorry.
26:32Mr Hill.
26:33Mr Hill.
26:34Mr Hill.
26:35One of your rights.
26:36When someone is first arrested for a crime,
26:38they can react in a number of different ways.
26:40One way that I used to see an awful lot is people would try and talk their way out of it.
26:45I can say some words that will stop this happening.
26:48I can make it go away.
26:51The headmaster is now under arrest for stalking a junior female teacher.
26:56I do need to phone my union.
26:57I need to go inside.
26:58I need to phone my union.
26:59No, no.
27:00No, I'm sorry.
27:01Mr Hill.
27:02Mr Hill.
27:03Mr Hill.
27:04One of your rights.
27:05Listen.
27:06I'm not assaulting you.
27:07You are under arrest.
27:08You are under arrest.
27:09Listen.
27:10We are giving you professional courtesy.
27:11Can I just go inside?
27:12No.
27:13Please listen.
27:14We have given you professional courtesy.
27:15I agree.
27:16But can I just go inside?
27:17We have not come in police's uniform.
27:18OK.
27:19One of your legal rights is to have a phone call and that can be the union.
27:23Just take your hand off me.
27:24You were starting to walk away, sir.
27:26You are under arrest.
27:27Just take your hand off me, first of all.
27:28Just take your hand off me.
27:29You were causing a scene and we didn't want to do that.
27:31No, that's fine.
27:32I'm not causing a scene.
27:33My colleagues are going to take you.
27:34You could have waited in school.
27:35We are in plain clothes and we wanted to wait outside because we didn't want to go into
27:38the school in front of all of your staff.
27:39I have done nothing wrong.
27:40I've been assaulted by a police officer.
27:42She's touched my arm.
27:43It's an allegation.
27:44An allegation.
27:45I've been assaulted.
27:46I want to go inside and just bring my union.
27:48You will not be going inside, Mr Hill.
27:49OK.
27:50So Mr Hill says, you've assaulted me, meaning you've touched me, but they're quite within
27:55their rights.
27:56He's been arrested.
27:57They are allowed to use reasonable force in order to control him, to restrain him.
28:02And the fact that he's trying to walk away and they're holding his arm, more than reasonable.
28:07They're not assaulting him.
28:08He just doesn't like it.
28:09OK.
28:10But I haven't done anything wrong.
28:11That's fine.
28:12We will talk to you about this at interview.
28:13And you could have done this at my house.
28:14You didn't need to come to my school to do this.
28:16She started to walk away.
28:17I haven't walked away.
28:18I'm still by my car.
28:19Could you just turn around the camera, please?
28:21I'm going to start filming now.
28:25Officers standing by in case of emergency are alerted.
28:30When somebody resists arrest, sometimes you will see a situation where you get a lot
28:36of police officers coming in and trying to control that person.
28:40Now, he is quite a big fella.
28:42That back-up would be needed so that Mr Hill can be arrested in a way that he doesn't
28:47get hurt and the officers don't get hurt.
28:49I'm going to start filming now because you can see I'm still by my car.
28:52No, don't touch my phone.
28:55There's the back-up coming in.
28:57Don't touch my phone.
28:58The number of officers certainly increases at this point.
29:02Don't touch my phone.
29:03Mr Hill is going to know at this point why he's being arrested.
29:07He's also going to understand what is on his phone and there will be evidence on there
29:11that would back up what the teacher is saying.
29:14Don't touch my phone.
29:16Don't touch my phone.
29:17Do not touch me.
29:19It isn't just this is my personal information on there.
29:22There's also incriminating stuff on there.
29:24Don't touch my phone.
29:25Don't touch my phone.
29:33The junior teacher started at Howard Junior School.
29:36And it was not too long after that that Greg Hill started contacting her via Twitter.
29:47It became more and more personal.
29:50He started to believe that he had fallen in love with her and this made her feel uncomfortable
29:55and it was unwanted contact.
29:57The unmarried headmaster aged 48 texted the 22 year old teacher.
30:05Can't wait to see this smile.
30:07This beautiful face and wonderful person tomorrow.
30:11I'd love to build a future for us in school and outside of school.
30:15He'd quickly become very obsessed with this member of staff.
30:20You know, things have been ramped up quite a lot.
30:22Get your hands out of your pockets.
30:25No, do not touch me.
30:27Take that off me.
30:28Stop.
30:29Take that off me now.
30:30Mr Hill.
30:31Take that off me now.
30:32We don't want that.
30:33Come on.
30:34Just calm yourself down.
30:35We are trying to...
30:36Let go of the handcuff.
30:37Take that off me.
30:38Take that off me.
30:39Do not put your...
30:40You're going to break my finger.
30:41You're going to break my finger.
30:42Let go of the handcuff.
30:43Let go of the handcuff.
30:44Let go of the handcuff.
30:45You're going to break my finger.
30:46Let go of the handcuff.
30:47In the police there's an expression, you plan for the worst but hope for the best.
30:51I don't think these officers would have been expected.
30:53In a situation where very quickly things are starting to get out of control.
30:57And they don't want to be in a position where they're having to manhandle a head teacher
31:02in front of the pupils of that school and the parents.
31:05We've got another set of handcuffs.
31:06We're going to be further resisting arrest now.
31:08I'm not resisting the arrest because I've done that.
31:10You are.
31:11You're holding onto the handcuffs.
31:12Right, but...
31:13You are already under arrest.
31:14Okay?
31:15Calm yourself down.
31:16What do you want to go to the car for?
31:17Yeah, that's fine.
31:18Just let me go.
31:19I'm going to search you now.
31:20I haven't...
31:21You're getting put in handcuffs as well now because you've been...
31:23You've already been off-ropped it.
31:24You've already been off-ropped it.
31:25You've made it happen now.
31:26You've made this happen, Mr Hill.
31:27We didn't...
31:28I haven't made this happen.
31:29I'm buying my car.
31:30They're trying to assault me.
31:31Please.
31:32Please.
31:33If you're watching this video, don't let them delete it.
31:34Mr Hill.
31:35Don't let them delete this video.
31:36What did you do?
31:37Oh, my goodness.
31:38Please.
31:39Sandra!
31:40I need to...
31:41No, I need to make a phone call to the police.
31:42You're assaulting.
31:43You're hurting my wrist.
31:44You're going to break my wrist.
31:45You're going to break my wrist.
31:46Calm yourself down.
31:47No.
31:48You're so quiet.
31:56I need to break my wrist.
31:59You're going to break my wrist.
32:00You're totally laquelle of a bit.
32:02But...
32:03If we're letting other people try and don't koń看 it, they're anti警告...
32:05I ain't quite woman.
32:06Mr Hill.
32:07I've got one—
32:08Freddie.
32:09No, you're taking a break.
32:10I got a break.
32:11I would have taken care of.
32:12telescopic flame of a scwww.
32:13I'd like to hang out on with the movie.
32:14I got a break.
32:15I got a break.
32:16In Kings Lynn, Norfolk, primary school headteacher Gregory Hill
32:20is being arrested on suspicion of stalking a junior female colleague.
32:25You're assaulting. You're hurting my wrists. You're going to break my wrists.
32:29But as parents drop off their children at the school gate,
32:32the headmaster is not going quietly.
32:36No, I need to make a phone call to the police.
32:38You're assaulting. You're hurting my wrists.
32:40You're going to break my wrists.
32:41No, you're assaulting me.
32:45Help me!
32:46Please, somebody call the police!
32:48At one point, Greg Hill shouts out,
32:50call the police, and they're applying, we are the police.
32:54Help me, please!
32:56We're going to have to get Mark's card here.
32:58I don't care. I've done nothing wrong. Help me, please!
33:01Can we get a van?
33:02Please, I've been assaulted. I want your badge number.
33:05Absolutely, you can't.
33:06You're assaulting me.
33:07You can have all the badge numbers you need.
33:08So the best thing to do in the circumstance where he's demanding their badge number,
33:13is just calmly, politely, just tell them their name.
33:17Because ultimately, he's going to know the name of the person that's arrested them.
33:21What's your badge number?
33:22This is really 1908.
33:24Right, 1908 is a complete and utter lie, and I hate police corruption.
33:28That's one of the worst things I hate.
33:29He's groping around to try and find something that will stop the officers doing what they're doing.
33:35They're not going to, because they're there to do a job.
33:37He needs to be arrested.
33:38The officers may or may not have known that Mr Hill was, at some point, a special constable.
34:04The fact that he tells them that, he's not going to change anything.
34:07Do you not kick?
34:09Do you not kick?
34:10Ow!
34:11Ow!
34:11Ow!
34:12Ow!
34:13Ow!
34:14Ow!
34:14Ow!
34:15Ow!
34:16Ow!
34:17Ow!
34:18Ow!
34:19Ow!
34:20Ow!
34:21Ow!
34:22Ow!
34:23Ow!
34:24Ow!
34:25Ow!
34:26Ow!
34:27Ow!
34:28Ow!
34:29Ow!
34:30Ow!
34:31Ow!
34:32Ow!
34:33Ow!
34:33Ow!
34:35I went myself and there was a sea of flowers.
34:38I've never seen anything like it...
34:43Greg Hill decided to take 20 to 30 pupils every day to Sandringham to lay flowers and tributes,
34:50and, at that time, Kate went over to one of the children from this school, who was quite
34:56tearful, and comforted her.
34:58her showing sympathy kate encouraged the little girl to share her feelings for the late queen
35:07do you have to put your teddies down there too and they went and put a tribute down together
35:15mr hill was very excited about that he posted about that on social media quite a lot and got
35:22in touch with us and i think it was a story that was picked up nationally that this little girl
35:28had been helped by by kate and it was someone from howard junior school prince william came and
35:34spoke to some of the children it made this paddington bear tribute for the queen do you like
35:39paddington yeah did you see the skit with paddington of my grandmother yeah yeah it's nice to see you
35:46guys thank you thank you thank you i'm the head teacher thank you thank you thank you thank you
35:50thank you hello everyone mr hill was always quite keen to be involved in those media opportunities
35:57so what we didn't know at that point was the fact that the junior teacher had been urged to go along
36:05every single day that any children went five days in a row he insisted on taking this junior teacher
36:13along with him despite having other teachers available and despite her saying that she would
36:18rather on certain days stay behind with her year class to get to know them it felt inappropriate
36:27to the victim because she said that she felt it was widening a gap that had already started to appear
36:34between her and some of the other members of staff she felt that she was being segregated from those
36:40members of staff she felt that he was trying to isolate her a classic abuse of power
36:48um
36:55over the next five months hill's harassment continued then he made a critical error
37:05he was seen taking a photograph off her car while this victim was celebrating her dad's birthday
37:12After more than a year of the harassment, the victim has had enough.
37:21First, her case was taken to her regional union representative.
37:27When I took the phone call, I was in absolute shock.
37:30One of the first things she asked was, is there any evidence?
37:33And she said, yes, there is evidence.
37:35He's been messaging using Messenger and Facebook.
37:38And I was like, wow.
37:41The union told police this was just the latest of many complaints by young female teachers who had worked for Greg Hill.
37:50I contacted about 20 ex-members of staff, people that had been silenced by Greg, and started gathering statements.
37:59There was a lot of terror as well because he terrified them that they would end their career because his position of power and status.
38:06He'd always been really careful.
38:08But his behaviours got more erratic and a little bit more dangerous.
38:11So they're a little bit more out of control.
38:16Help me, please!
38:18I've done that bit wrong!
38:19Help me, please!
38:20I've been assaulted!
38:22I want your badge number!
38:23Absolutely you can.
38:24You've assaulted me!
38:26Help me!
38:27You're going to get a sack over this!
38:30I've got to professional standards.
38:32You used to be a police officer myself, you idiot!
38:34There comes a point in these situations where, you know, no matter what you say, your words are just not going to be listened to, they're not going to cooperate, and they've reached this point now where, essentially, they're having to pick Mr Hill up and carry him to the police van.
38:53Very undignified, he's given them no choice.
38:58Watch his head.
39:01Drop in, he's resisting, stop.
39:04Mr Hill, this is unnecessary.
39:06I can't breathe.
39:07Sit up.
39:08This is ridiculous.
39:09Sit up, because if you can't breathe, you need to sit up, don't you?
39:11Oh, we'll just put you in the recovery position, then, and we'll just leave you on.
39:15I think he's now started to pretend to be unconscious.
39:20Oh, please help me, somebody!
39:25This is like that Floyd!
39:26This is an assault!
39:28This is like that George Floyd in America!
39:30When he brings up George Floyd, he, again, is trying to get control back from his officers.
39:36You can almost imagine him in his mind, what can I do now?
39:40I've threatened them, what can I do now to try and gain control of this situation?
39:44Miss Hill, you can either choose to get in the van, or we can bring some more units down here and we can carry you.
39:48That's up to you, but then you're deprived things to the cover, and that is just ridiculous all of this.
39:52No, that's not your actions that are depriving you.
39:53No, it isn't.
39:53I've been assaulted.
39:54Look at the state of me.
39:55Yeah.
39:56Well, that's your own fault for not cooperating, isn't it?
39:58Well, George, you assault people if they try and just say, look, I'm innocent, and just, let me just come with dignity.
40:03Mr Hill, Mr Hill.
40:04You assault them terribly, do you?
40:06You've assaulted me terribly.
40:11Stop biting.
40:12Stop biting.
40:14Mr Hill.
40:15Oh, Mr Hill.
40:17What he's actually doing is biting himself.
40:18He's biting his lip in order to draw blood.
40:22An obvious attempt to try and make it look like he's being hurt by the officers.
40:27Imagine if that video wasn't there, and he goes back to the police station and says, look what they've done.
40:31Look what they did to me.
40:32Well, actually, you did that to yourself, Mr Hill, and it's on the video.
40:36So that's why those body-worn videos are so important, to make it clear to everybody else later on exactly what's happening.
40:42This is what I'm saying.
40:44Don't spit in my face.
40:45Don't spit in my face.
40:46You just spit in my face.
40:53Jailing a Norfolk headteacher today for harassment.
40:56A judge described video footage of his arrest as bizarre.
41:01You're going to break my finger.
41:02Let go of the handker.
41:03You're going to break my finger.
41:03You're going to have all the badge numbers you need.
41:07I can't drop my arm.
41:11You've broken my watch.
41:12I've been assaulted.
41:13I've got my wrist broken.
41:15I've got my foot broken.
41:16You should have done that to me.
41:18Mr Hill, come on.
41:19You've committed an offence yourself, and now you've assaulted me.
41:22Well, we're going to have to carry you, aren't we?
41:24No, you've got to kill me.
41:25That's more of a scene.
41:25Well, we're not going to kill you, are we?
41:26That's just silly.
41:28The trainee teacher told the court that Hill was always hounding me with messages and emails late at night.
41:35She lived in fear of seeing him.
41:38But still, her ordeal wasn't over.
41:40An Orphek headteacher who served 20 weeks in jail is back behind bars tonight after breaching a stalking protection order.
41:52Gregory Hill of Kings Lynn defied his order by posting online photographs of a trainee teacher he'd been stalking.
42:00Hill was returned to jail for six months.
42:04For years, there had been rumours about Greg Hill, but never enough evidence.
42:09The teachers' union was so concerned, it persuaded trainees to steer clear of him.
42:16I emailed young teachers across Norfolk and advised them not to take up a job.
42:21There must have been about 20 young female teachers that must have not applied or taken a job there.
42:27This could have got a lot worse, so I'm glad we did stop it when we could.
42:31Come on.
42:32No.
42:32We can.
42:33No.
42:33Mr Hill, no.
42:35They're not there.
42:35The fact that he was arrested within the domain of his school, I believe, was a huge factor in his behaviour.
42:42They're trying to assault me.
42:43Please.
42:44Please.
42:44That, I believe, is what's really sparked this behaviour and caused him to act like he did.
42:49You're hurting my wrists.
42:50You're going to break my wrists.
42:52These videos are really impactful to give a glimpse of the real Mr Hill.
42:56When somebody goes to trial, what they do is they try to present themselves to the judge
43:02as, I'm a reasonable person.
43:04So that video would have been hugely impactful for the prosecution to give a real glimpse of
43:10what he's like.
43:11You're trying to hurt me.
43:13You've rubbed my heart.
43:13You put your cuffs on too tight.
43:15That's assault.
43:16You have assaulting me.
43:18Come on.
43:18No.
43:19No.
43:19We can.
43:19No.
43:20Mr Hill, no.
43:20We dare not do it.
43:22No.
43:22No.
43:22No.
43:22No.
43:22No.
43:22No.
43:22No.
43:22No.
43:23No.
43:24No.
43:24No.
43:25No.
43:26No.
43:56No.
43:57No.
43:58No.
43:59No.
44:00No.
44:01No.
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