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El campeón neerlandés repasa su carrera, reflexiona sobre la pérdida de autonomía en el ciclismo moderno y analiza el dominio de Tadej Pogacar, la evolución del ciclismo español y la salud mental en el deporte.

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00:00Sí, estoy muy feliz.
00:02En el año pasado, ya se salió en los Norte.
00:06Y ahora, incluso en España.
00:09Estoy muy emocionada.
00:12Es diferente.
00:16Para mí, sí.
00:20Fue como, el mejor que me ha sido,
00:24el mejor que mis resultados fueron,
00:26el mejor que me ha sido.
00:30El menos que me ha dicho sobre mi programa,
00:34sobre mi training, sobre mi nutrición.
00:36Fue como,
00:38la libertad y autonomía que tenía en los primeros años,
00:46era menos y menos y menos.
00:50Y creo que,
00:52bueno,
00:54si hay dinero,
00:55y sponsors,
00:56y teams,
00:58todos tienen un say
00:59en un programa
01:00y preparación,
01:02y todo.
01:04que están pagando,
01:06un buen salario,
01:08como líder de un equipo.
01:10Y eso también significa que
01:12a veces necesitas hacer cosas
01:14que el equipo quiere,
01:16o el sponsor quiere,
01:18o lo que sea.
01:19Pero para mí,
01:20el balance no es el mejor.
01:24Y no sé si es para todos los grandes
01:28líderes,
01:29hoy en día,
01:30es el mismo.
01:31Creo que
01:32líderes como Pogacá y Mathieu van der Poel,
01:34pueden
01:36hacer sus decisiones,
01:38especialmente Mathieu van der Poel.
01:40Creo que
01:41realmente chooses
01:42dónde quiere ir,
01:44qué goals quiere.
01:46Así que
01:48creo que depende de un líder.
01:51Sí,
01:53as longas
01:54he likes
01:55to ride his bike
01:56and
01:57to race
01:58and to train
01:59and
02:00I'm happy for him,
02:01you know.
02:04I would
02:05probably make
02:06a different decision
02:08in his place,
02:09but
02:10that's me
02:11and
02:12he is him
02:13and I respect him
02:14very,
02:15very much.
02:16I mean,
02:17he's a fourth time
02:18Tour de France winner
02:19and I have
02:20the utmost respect for him
02:22and his decision
02:23to continue racing
02:24when he so likes it.
02:26Yeah.
02:27And
02:28I
02:29love
02:30seeing him
02:31racing
02:32and smashing it.
02:33I mean,
02:34he's maybe
02:35the greatest rider
02:36ever,
02:37you know,
02:38and it's very special
02:39to
02:40see
02:41the greatest rider
02:42ever
02:43racing
02:44and
02:46winning
02:47almost every race.
02:48I mean,
02:49it's
02:52yeah,
02:53it's just special
02:54to be watching that.
02:55But on the other hand,
02:56I mean,
02:57you cannot deny
02:58that
03:01that we would like to see
03:02battles until the end.
03:04That's the most exciting racing
03:05that you can
03:07that you can have
03:09battling
03:10until the last moment
03:11like
03:13in the Giro of 2017
03:142017
03:15when
03:16when four riders
03:17were still
03:19in the last
03:20time trial,
03:21they were still
03:22battling it out
03:23for the win.
03:24I mean,
03:25of course, it's more exciting
03:26than
03:27seeing Pogacar leave
03:29at 80 kilometers to go
03:30in his own.
03:31But, but still, I mean,
03:33his level of performance
03:35and his, his killer mentality
03:37is something
03:39I admire a lot.
03:40So it's
03:42I'm definitely not bored
03:44with him winning.
03:45But
03:47yeah,
03:48I would also
03:49for next year,
03:50I would, I would love to see
03:52for example,
03:53Remco Evenepoel
03:54or Jonas Fingergaard
03:55really going head to head
03:56with him and
03:57and that it's going
03:58to be
04:00yeah,
04:01a strong battle until the end
04:02in the Tour de France,
04:03for example.
04:06I've never seen
04:07Eddie Merckx racing.
04:09So it's always difficult
04:10to compare times.
04:13It's, it's, it was a different age
04:15when Eddie Merckx was racing
04:17compared to now.
04:19So it's, it's always difficult
04:20to compare.
04:21Yeah.
04:22Yeah.
04:23I think,
04:25well, a lot of, a lot of stories
04:29had been written already
04:30about Ayuso leaving
04:31and Ayuso not,
04:33not working for,
04:35for the leaders.
04:36But I can also understand,
04:37I mean, there's, there's,
04:39there's today Pogacar
04:41and if today Pogacar
04:42is on the start line,
04:44everybody's,
04:45all his teammates
04:46are always running for him.
04:47Of course.
04:48Because he's,
04:49he's the very best there is.
04:50But Ayuso is still a young rider.
04:52And if he stays at UAE,
04:56if, if he would have stayed
04:57in UAE and he would have worked
04:59for Pogacar,
05:00he would have had a great career.
05:02But, but probably without
05:06any big opportunities
05:07to go for himself.
05:09So I think it's a bold move
05:11for him to, to move
05:13to Little Trek.
05:15But it could also really work out.
05:17And, and now he can finally,
05:19race for himself.
05:22And I think that's, that's,
05:24that's better for a diversion
05:26of, of all the big leaders
05:28to, to go to different teams
05:30and fight it out in the race,
05:31you know?
05:32Yes.
05:34I think so.
05:35I think Vingegaard will,
05:36will definitely be in the coming few years,
05:41he will definitely still be,
05:42the big, the biggest competitor
05:46in the Tour de France.
05:47Not that the one day races,
05:50but that the Tour de France,
05:51I think it's,
05:52it's going to be a clash
05:54between Vingegaard and, and, and Pogacar
05:56for maybe another couple of years.
06:00I think they are.
06:03Um, it's gradually improving,
06:06but the difficulty about mental health
06:10is also that there's no data available
06:13to, to say, or to say what your mental health is
06:18and how to improve it.
06:20You know, uh, you can see all the data
06:23of how much power you push on the pedals
06:25and you can see all the data of your nutrition
06:28and you can see all the data.
06:30So that's all very available
06:32and we can measure it
06:34and we can, uh, change it.
06:37You know, uh, if, if, if, uh,
06:40if you do bad values on, on the power meter,
06:43you can change your training, you can rest
06:45or whatever the trainer and you,
06:48they know what to do.
06:50But with mental health, it's very difficult.
06:52You cannot put it in data.
06:55So I think it's, it's something that,
06:57that, that will keep, that will,
07:00that will say an issue for, for, for maybe always.
07:04But, uh, it's also, it's where the basic
07:07of, of, of performance starts.
07:09I mean, you need to be happy to perform.
07:11So, um, I think teams acknowledge that
07:15and they are definitely finding, uh, ways to, to,
07:19yeah, to help the riders with that.
07:21But, uh, it's gradually improving,
07:23but it's, it's definitely not there yet.
07:25Uh, one of the things that I, I, I didn't like
07:30anymore as a rider was the, the always traveling.
07:34So I was away from home for more than 200 days per year,
07:38maybe 250 days per year.
07:40And as a sports director,
07:42you're always away from home as well.
07:44So I don't see myself immediately, uh,
07:49getting into a sports director role because of, uh,
07:54because of that.
07:55But, um, uh, maybe if I could do more from home,
07:59uh, yeah, that could be, that could be very helpful.
08:03Have a nice idea.
08:05With that, that could be very helpful.
08:07.
08:08It could be very helpful.
08:09It's being helpful.
08:11I think that your,
08:13the Wednesday's silence should be very helpful.
08:14That's being helpful.
08:16Mm-hm.
08:20Yeah.
08:21You,
08:22� Bloom looks a little bit perhaps eligible.
08:24Yeah.
08:26Okay,
08:26but moreouter than when I'm leaving now.
08:29Actually,
08:30No would you lose any Meter?
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