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This special report focuses on the Bihar assembly elections, where the Mahagathbandhan has officially named Tejasvi Yadav its Chief Ministerial candidate, challenging the incumbent NDA. The core of the debate features the BJP's Syed Zafar Islam stating, 'People understand the differentiating factor between NDA, which is Jan Kalyan Raj, and Tejasvi Yadav is known for Jangal Raj.' The program delves into this political clash, examining the RJD's counter-narrative focused on job creation during its 17-month tenure and the BJP's strategy of reviving the 'Jangal Raj' discourse. It also explores the Mahagathbandhan's social engineering by naming Mukesh Sahni as a Deputy CM face and whether Tejasvi's leadership can overcome the political legacy of his father, Lalu Prasad Yadav, to attract young voters.
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00:00I just want to raise the big questions and just take it forward and then come back to Krishna Alavaru because remember, will naming Tejasvi Yadav as a chief ministerial face work for the Mahagadbandan or not?
00:13That's question number one. Is the opposition bid to make the battle Tejasvi versus who going to work or not?
00:20Are the ghosts of Lalu Raj still haunting the opposition?
00:23I guess at the moment Subodh Mehta is national spokesperson RJD, Amitabh Tiwari is founder of Vote5 and Syed Zafar Islam, BJP spokesperson is also joining us.
00:34We'll go back to Krishna Alavaru when we get the line.
00:37I want to get your first reactions to that.
00:39First, tell me, Subodh Mehta Ji, you tell me, RJD has, the Mahagadbandan has finally named Tejasvi Yadav.
00:49Is it too little too late?
00:50Was this the only reason that you were waiting for so long that Tejasvi Yadav will be named Tejasvi Yadav?
01:01Rajdeep ji, when you look back to 2020 Bihar Assembly election, you will find that the people of Bihar has voted for Tejasvi Prasad Yadav.
01:10It was a democratic hurdle created by then NDA government.
01:14And, you know, on few votes, you know, we missed the, this thing, we could not form our government.
01:22Tejasvi Prasad Yadav would have been the chief minister then only.
01:26Tejasvi Yadav is a people's call.
01:29He's the people's leader who has been a chief minister, but due to a bureaucratic hurdle, he could not, you know, he was not sowning.
01:36But now coming to the charges that has been made against us regarding the, you know, the press conference and all that, we all know that the seven party coalition is a rainbow coalition.
01:48We believe in the idea of India, we have, we believe in the idea of a democratic decentralization.
01:54We talked about A to Z politics of Bihar, Tejasvi Prasad himself talked about.
01:58We were for the developmental plank of, you know, Prahi, Davai, Kamai, Sichai, Sunwai and Karwai.
02:04And when you look to the 17 month of Tejasvi Prasad Yadav, we have given more than five lakh jobs to the people of Bihar.
02:11We have given approximately three lakh jobs in the pipeline and we have, you know, made those teachers a government employee.
02:20And moreover, we have also empowered the weaker section of the society.
02:23But looking to the charges made by the prime minister regarding our, you know, prime minister says Tejasvi Yadav's name is associated with Jangal Raj.
02:32He says Yadav family yane Jangal Raj.
02:35Yes, I want to refute that.
02:37You know, when you look to 1990 to 2005 and from 2005 to 2025, you know, when you compare Nitish Raj with Lalu Raj,
02:47you look to the human development index of 1990 to 2005, we developed, you know, 0.89 percent and Nitish developed only 0.59 percent.
02:57That means health, education and per capita income.
03:00Can you deny, can you deny the Jangal Raj charge, the charge that law and order broke down when Lalu Prasad was the chief minister and now according to the BJP, if Tejasvi comes back, the Jangal Raj will return.
03:13I want a quick answer before I go to the other guests.
03:15Look, when you look to the Jangal Raj, when you look to the National Crime Report Bureau data, Bihar police data, when we left the Bihar government, the cognizance offense was only 95,000 in 2005.
03:27And now the cognizance offense has gone up to approximately 4,000,000.
03:32The total murder in last 20 years has been 70,000 murder has been done.
03:37So 35,000, you know, women has been raped and the 2,000,000 sexual harassment cases is there.
03:44When you look to the DACAIT, 1,000,000 DACAIT and 3,000,000 burghari cases has been done.
03:48And Neetan and Rai himself has come on the platform of the parliament and talked about that the third 3,000…
03:53You are going by NCRB, you are claiming NCRB figures show that there is no let up in the criminal activities.
04:00I just want to for a moment, Sayyad Zafar Islam, you see, today by naming Tejasvi Yadav, in a way the opposition has thrown a googly.
04:09They are saying we have got a chief minister candidate now.
04:12Now you tell us who is your chief minister candidate.
04:14They are saying BJP is reluctant to name Nitish Kumar also as their chief minister candidate.
04:20If they win the election, they will drop Nitish Kumar.
04:22So it's Tejasvi Yadav versus who.
04:25Aapka ka kaon hai mukya mantri is what the opposition is saying.
04:29Well, let me respond to this question.
04:35Only fools will ask this question because we know that exactly we have something to show.
04:40We have a chief minister who has been chief minister for the last 20 years.
04:43He is representing NDA.
04:46He is the face of NDA.
04:47He has been chief minister.
04:48He is chief minister.
04:49He is going to be the chief minister.
04:51There is no confusion.
04:52People understand that there is a difference between him and Tejasvi Prasad Yadav.
04:58Tejasvi Prasad Yadav was never a chief minister.
05:01So he had to out of compulsion.
05:02You are telling us on the show if the NDA wins, Nitish Kumar is chief minister.
05:06Are we clear?
05:08You are saying Nitish Kumar will be the chief minister of the NDA wins, right?
05:11Do you have any doubt?
05:16We have none.
05:18That's what I am saying.
05:19This entire campaign is led by the Nitish Kumar and the election is fought under the leadership of Nitish Kumar.
05:29Where is the confusion?
05:30They had to name.
05:31Amit Shah said the electoral, Amit Shah had said earlier that elected legislators will decide.
05:38Oh my God.
05:43So that process is always followed.
05:45But there is no confusion.
05:47Is there any confusion?
05:47Is anyone within NDA saying that I want to be the chief minister?
05:53Unlike Mahagadbandan where somebody wants to put up their hand for chief minister?
05:59Nobody agrees.
05:59Rahul Gandhi wanted some, I heard that Rahul Gandhi wanted Tariq Anwar Sahar as their chief minister
06:05face because he is a senior boss leader there in the state of Bihar.
06:10Then RJD wanted Tejasvi Yadu.
06:15There is a VIP party.
06:16He wanted chief minister.
06:17He wanted to be chief minister.
06:19Somehow he agreed for deputy CM post.
06:22So all this because of out of compulsion they have agreed.
06:25But people understand there is a jungle.
06:27Once you have named Tejasvi Yadu means you have put a stamp of authority about Jangal Raj.
06:35Where there is a people understand.
06:36Sir, you are saying Jangal Raj.
06:38The difference between Jangal Raj and Jan Kalyan Raj.
06:41Sir, sir.
06:42When Nitish Kumar.
06:42We are saying Jan Kalyan Raj.
06:43Sir, sir.
06:44People are known.
06:45One minute.
06:45Nitish Kumar has tied up with Lalu Prasad in 2015.
06:48No Jangal Raj.
06:49Nitish Kumar ties up with Tejasvi Yadu.
06:51No Jangal Raj.
06:52When they are in opposition it becomes Jangal Raj.
06:54When they are your partners there is no problem.
06:57You see politics suvidha ki politics hoti hai.
06:59Opportunism.
07:00No.
07:00But let me bring in Amri.
07:02That's true.
07:02That is the truth.
07:03Not at all.
07:03You are down today.
07:04Not at all.
07:05When Nitish Kumar was with Lalu Prasad there was no Jangal Raj.
07:09No Rajdeep you.
07:13Rajdeep you have to understand.
07:14Why he had to distance himself from Tejasvi Yadu.
07:18Because he could not.
07:20He saw that the kind of corruption he was doing there.
07:24When he was the chief minister and Tejasvi Yadu was the deputy chief minister.
07:28He had to leave them behind.
07:29Because he didn't want to be a part of the government where under his own nose somebody is doing this kind of corruption.
07:37That's why he had to say goodbye to Mahagadbandan or RJD.
07:41But let me tell you a few things.
07:42People understand the differentiating factor between NDA which is Jan Kalyan Raj.
07:47And Tejasvi Yadu is known for Jangal Raj.
07:51So Jan Kalyan Raj and Jangal Raj.
07:53That's the fight.
07:54People have faith.
07:54Okay you are saying the fight.
07:56Okay I have taken your point.
07:57The fight is between you are claiming Jan Kalyan Raj and Jangal Raj.
08:01Amitabh Tiwari you have been doing a lot of numbers.
08:03And I will put up some of those numbers on the screen at the moment.
08:06Every poll that we have done.
08:08Both that you have done.
08:09Others have done.
08:10And clearly show that Tejasvi Yadu is ahead.
08:14When it comes to the question straight question.
08:16Who should be your leader?
08:18Tejasvi Yadu roughly polls around 35 to 36 percent.
08:22In most polls 36 percent.
08:24Nitish Kumar at 15.9.
08:27Is this an advantage that you project a leader?
08:29How much of an advantage does this give the Mahagadbandan if any at all?
08:35Clearly there are two data points.
08:37One is that as per our vote-wide survey.
08:39There are 15 percent people who said that they will be voting in the name of the CM face.
08:46So CM face or leadership is important.
08:49And secondly as you have mentioned across surveys including C voter or vote-wide and other surveys.
08:55Tejasvi Yadu is leading against Nitish Kumar as the preferred CM face.
09:00So I think these two data points clearly suggest that you need to project a leader in Bihar.
09:05And secondly clearly Tejasvi Yadu is the natural claimant of being the leader of Mahagadbandan because he is popular amongst youth.
09:15He is young.
09:16And he is also fighting a let's say a fatigue battle with Nitish Kumar.
09:21So he is sort of in a way the face of future and trying to force a battle.
09:28Is he getting new voters?
09:30Amitabh Tiwari is he getting new voters or only traditional Yadu Muslim voters?
09:35And by making him chief minister candidate is there a consolidation taking place on the other side?
09:41Is he getting non-Mahagadbandan voters also?
09:45So see he is trying to get or expand beyond the MY vote bank and that's why we have seen this time that both Congress as well as the RJD have given higher number of tickets to EBCs.
09:59And they have also announced the EBC deputy chief minister in the hope that the core vote bank of Nitish Kumar gets split and some of it is apportioned towards the Mahagadbandan.
10:11Secondly, the youth which is 18 to 29 year age group is around 25% of voters.
10:18And we have seen that this age group exhibits the highest amount of anti-incumbency against the Nitish Kumar government because perhaps they do not relate with Nitish Kumar who is twice thrice the age or rather two and a half times the age.
10:31So I think he is attempting to expand the vote bank.
10:36But it's also a weakness in a sense or a negative of the announcement is that of course there will be charges of or a narrative of corruption, Jangal Raj and dynasty politics which the Mahagadbandan will have to grapple with because these issues will be brought up by the ND.
10:54It could also lead to polarization I would say and a counter consolidation of the forward caste and non-Yadu OBC.
11:01So these things are also there in terms of…
11:04So it's a bit of a gamble.
11:05It's a bit of a gamble.
11:06Krishna Alavaru joins me because Krishna has played an important role as the congress is in charge for BR.
11:12Many call you Rahul Gandhi's point person for BR, Krishna.
11:16What was the strategy behind today suddenly at the last moment with nominations closing finally announcing Tejasvi Yadav as your chief minister candidate?
11:25You could have done this a month ago.
11:26So I just like to clarify, can you hear me okay?
11:34Yeah, I can hear you okay.
11:36Okay, great.
11:38So this wasn't a last minute panic decision as some of you are saying.
11:44I think this was a decision taken as early as mid-April.
11:48The decision was that there would be seat sharing, there would be a common agenda for BR, and there would be a common team that would implement the agenda.
11:59So we are now at a place where we have seat sharing out of the way.
12:04The common minimum program or the agenda is largely in place.
12:08And now we have, as per our plan, announced the team that would implement the agenda and vision for Bihar.
12:18It's a young team.
12:19It's a mix of experience and freshness.
12:23And that's what we are offering.
12:25We are offering a vision for every segment of Bihar.
12:29For the women, for the youth, for the unemployed, for the students, for the farmers.
12:36But if you are saying, if I may just stop you, if you are saying Krishna, that you had decided on Tejasvi Yadav as your CM choice in mid-April.
12:44We are now on the last day of nomination in October.
12:47Why did you hesitate?
12:48Was there some kind of hesitation within your ranks that the moment you appoint Tejasvi Yadav, there will be the charge of Jangal Raj made today by no less than the Prime Minister.
12:59There will be the charge of corruption that the Yadav family has faced.
13:04That you were worried that you make Tejasvi Yadav your Chief Minister and candidate.
13:10There will be counter-polarization.
13:13So let's get some facts straight.
13:16Today in Bihar, the BJP is de facto ruling the state.
13:24Nitish Kumarji is unwell.
13:27And that's a fact that everybody knows.
13:30And it is the BJP which is running the state by proxy.
13:36We talk about Jangal Raj 20, 25 years ago.
13:40There is Jangal Raj in Bihar today.
13:43When the Prime Minister, Home Minister and the CM in face only Nitish Kumar are running the state.
13:51Crime is off the charts.
13:53You have daylight murders in the capital city.
13:57Big businessmen are unsafe.
13:59Women are unsafe.
14:01So there goes a claim about Jangal Raj.
14:04Let's talk about corruption.
14:06I mean, the BJP's faces.
14:10Kamrad Chaudhary.
14:12He is, by far, an exposed, corrupt politician.
14:19Let's talk about their ministers.
14:22Let's talk about Jivesh Mishra.
14:24The man has been accused of selling fake drugs and making money.
14:29So the JDU and the BJP, Gatavandan, has no credibility whatsoever to talk about either corruption or crime.
14:43Because right now, Bihar is off the charts on both.
14:47From low-level corruption at the BDO, Tehsil, and Thana to the Chief Minister's Office and the Minister's MLAs, we see unbridled corruption in Bihar.
15:00So I find it very funny when the BJP stands up and says Jangal Raj, which was 25 to 30 years ago, and corruption.
15:11Because if there is corruption in Bihar today, and there is unbridled corruption, the BJP and the JDU are solely responsible for it.
15:20I want to make one more point, right?
15:24Yes.
15:25Unemployment is a big deal in Bihar and in India.
15:28Now, when the Gatavandan was in power for about 17 months, we gave jobs, we conducted recruitment without a scam, without paper leaks, without corruption.
15:43That's a track record which before or after has not been matched by the BJP or the JDU.
15:52So they have a lot of questions to answer.
15:54In fact, I would want to ask the BJP and the JDU, you've been in power.
15:58You should go and ask votes on the basis of your achievements, your report card.
16:03What are your achievements?
16:05Corruption?
16:06Crime?
16:08Poor education?
16:09Broken health infrastructure?
16:11No jobs?
16:13Paper leaks?
16:14Mafia?
16:15This is your report card.
16:16So you should take your report card to the people of Bihar and say, this is what we have done for you.
16:21Give us votes and let's see what the people say.
16:24Okay, Krishna, I'm going to come back to you.
16:25But I think what you've said, BJP deserves a response.
16:31Zafar Islam, you're hearing what the Congress leader is saying.
16:35He's saying, let's fight this election on what's happened in the last 20 years.
16:40You're saying, let's talk about 1990s Lalu Prasad.
16:44When the Prime Minister says, Jangal Raj, he's referring to the 1990s in particular.
16:49Why aren't you fighting your election on the last 20 years?
16:52What has Nitish Kumar done?
16:53According to the Congress, Nitish Kumar is the puppet.
16:56He's only the face.
16:57The power is with the BJP.
16:59And the BJP does not want to confront the corruption charges of its own ministers,
17:04fake cert degrees, drugs, fake drugs.
17:07These are the questions that are being raised today in Bihar.
17:10And as Amitabh Tiwari said, there could be a mood for change among the youth.
17:14They just feel much younger than a Nitish Kumar.
17:21Well, Rajdeep, you will give me sufficient time to respond.
17:25Because you have given plenty of time for him to speak very comfortably.
17:30But when we speak, you interrupt immediately.
17:32So give me sufficient time to respond.
17:34And first of all, as I said, we are projecting and propagating our own performance to the people.
17:42It is not like Mahagadband that their face could be Tejasui Yado, but not the people's choice.
17:53The people's choice is very clearly who they bless.
17:55They have always been blessing the NDA government and Nitish Kumar.
17:59So that is why we are very confident to go to the people and seek their blessings.
18:04Because they repose confidence in NDA.
18:08Because there are two people who actually makes the difference in Bihar and in India as a whole.
18:14One, the Honorable Prime Minister, who has seen his credibility is unmatched.
18:18And he is seen as a Vikas Prush.
18:22So people like development and that's why people have a lot of confidence in him.
18:28And that's why they are blessed.
18:29And second is the governance model.
18:31The stability which Bihar enjoys is primarily because of the Nitish Kumar.
18:36Nitish Kumar is seen as somebody who has championed in governance model.
18:40And everybody talks about him as Sushasar Babu.
18:44So people need both good administration, good governance model and the development.
18:48And which is happening in the last 20 years in Bihar.
18:50That's why you could see that people's aspiration was to have electricity.
18:54That electricity has been given to every single home in Bihar.
18:59The water connection now has reached to every single household in Bihar.
19:04And what these people are talking about, that they will give job.
19:07Tejasui Yado time and again is saying that they will give job.
19:10Somebody, Mr. Alavaru, must respond on your television channel.
19:14How much they have made this kind of announcement that they will give job to every household.
19:22So 2 crore, 80 lakh household in Bihar.
19:2630 lakh people already employed.
19:28So 2 crore, 50 lakh people, they have to give job.
19:32Where each job, B category or C category, will cost 39,000 per month.
19:38Tell me how much money you require.
19:39No, second, all the commitment, I'm just telling you that all the commitment which has been made by Tejasui Yado.
19:45No, just a second, 10 seconds.
19:47All the commitment which has been made by Tejasui Yado on the expenditure side of the budget
19:51is like amounting to around 14, 15 lakh crore.
19:54Where the budget is only 3.17 crore.
19:58His mother had left the budget at 23,000 crore.
20:00From where the revenue will come?
20:02Let him respond, Mr. Alavaru.
20:04Let Krishna Alavaru respond.
20:06Krishna Alavaru, you're telling me Tejasui Yado symbolizes jobs, symbolizes giving rozgaar.
20:12Truth of the matter is when he promises one job per household, 2.8 crore households roughly in Bihar,
20:19out of which there are only 30 lakh government jobs at the moment, where will the jobs come from?
20:23You see, isn't it that you all are now, because the NDA has given 10,000 rupees to women,
20:29more than 1.2 crore women, you're now saying our counter is jobs,
20:34but you don't know where the jobs will come from.
20:36So can Tejasui Yado really fulfill the promise?
20:42Let's talk about our track record on delivering jobs, right?
20:45In 17 months, our track record of delivering jobs, we delivered 5 lakhs.
20:51Nadeep, ask this match.
20:53Ask the match.
20:55Yeah, he's asking me, and if you will allow me to speak.
20:59It will cost the extra care.
21:00Yeah, yeah, give us the match.
21:01Zafar Islam, let him give you the match.
21:03Do you have the match, Krishna Alavaru, or is it just a tall, empty promise?
21:08So let's talk about the fact that we have walked the talk in the past.
21:13We have given 4 lakh jobs in a short span of time.
21:18And what we are saying now is that…
21:20He will not be able to speak.
21:22He will not.
21:23No, no, you can't interrupt now.
21:25That's wrong, sir Zafar.
21:27Let him complete.
21:27So, Mr. Zafar has to be a little patient, and he should firstly accept that their track record in giving jobs is not as good as ours.
21:37Now, the question is, how are we going to give jobs to those who haven't got jobs as of now?
21:43So there are multiple sectors in which we have plans.
21:46So we have plans of inviting private investments as well as public expenditure.
21:55There is an education city.
21:58There will be vocational training.
22:00There will be investments from Indian and international companies.
22:06And there's a full roadmap that we will be unleashing on the 28th.
22:09Rajiv, I want to interrupt him here, please.
22:11I think he has not heard Tejasvi Yaddo.
22:14He has not heard Tejasvi Yaddo.
22:16That is why he is saying private investment, private job.
22:19He has very clearly said, even today in press conference, show him the press conference that everybody will get government job.
22:27Show him the press conference.
22:29Mr. Rafferit Khaal.
22:29It seems he has not heard.
22:31Maybe he was excluded in the press conference.
22:33He has not seen it.
22:35Okay.
22:35I am saying, I am posing a simple question.
22:38Government job.
22:39Does a private investment create the government job?
22:43Krishna, respond.
22:45What are you talking?
22:46I am asking you a very simple question.
22:48Okay.
22:48You have asked the question.
22:49Let him respond.
22:50Government job.
22:50He has very clearly said it.
22:51You have asked him the question, sir.
22:52You have asked him the question.
22:54Show the courtesy of allowing him to respond.
22:56Krishna, respond to that.
22:57Government jobs or private jobs?
22:59Rajiv, you should have asked this question.
23:02No, no.
23:02I have asked the question, sir.
23:04You don't have to tell me what I have to do.
23:05I do my job.
23:06Go ahead.
23:06So, Zafar Iqbal, I think, should also have the courtesy to hear people giving answers
23:12when he wanted time to answer a question.
23:15So, let me try and make a few points.
23:17Zafar Iqbal should also hear what Mr. Amit Shah has said.
23:22Mr. Amit Shah has repeatedly said that Nitish Kumar will not be the CM.
23:26And you say he is the CM.
23:27Anyway, I am going to set that point aside.
23:29No, sir, sir, let me correct you.
23:30Amit Shah, no, no.
23:31Can we discuss about the budget?
23:32Sir, Amit Shah has never said, Mr. Zafar Islam, just a minute.
23:35Let me answer.
23:36Sir, let me do my job of anchoring.
23:38Zafar, Amit Shah has not said Nitish Kumar will not be CM.
23:43He has said the legislators will choose.
23:45Let's be correct.
23:46Factually correct.
23:47That's the answer.
23:48But Krishna Allahwaru very quickly, because otherwise we'll get caught in a tutu.
23:51Now, just a minute, sir.
23:54Now that Tejasvi Yadav has been named your Chief Minister, Mukesh Sani has been named Deputy
23:59Chief Minister, where does this leave the Congress and Rahul Gandhi?
24:01The BJP's charge is Rahul Gandhi has abandoned Bihar.
24:06He is missing.
24:07He's now left it to Tejasvi Yadav and Mukesh Sani.
24:10Congress is missing.
24:11How do you respond?
24:12This is a direct point they have made today.
24:14I don't think the people of Bihar are interested in what the BJP says about the Ghatbandhan or
24:24the Congress.
24:25We are a united opposition.
24:28We have an agenda for the people of Bihar.
24:31The agenda is a promise to solve the problems that matter to the people of Bihar.
24:37The BJP does not have a report card that they're willing to take.
24:42They're not willing to talk to us on the agenda that we have raised.
24:46And what we want to repeatedly say is we're not interested in what the BJP's views are
24:52about the Ghatbandhan.
24:53What matters to us is the fact that the BJP's administration has left Bihar broken.
25:01And we have come with a roadmap that we hope will make things better.
25:05And that roadmap covers a wide variety of issues that the people of Bihar are fed up with.
25:12It ranges from employment, to paper leaks, to health, to education, to income, to farmers,
25:20for women.
25:22And that's what we want to talk about.
25:23There is talk that you want to have three deputy chief ministers if you're elected.
25:29One a Dalit, one an EBC, one a Muslim.
25:32Is it that this is your rainbow coalition?
25:34One chief minister, three deputy chief ministers.
25:36Because many will say that's a recipe for chaos.
25:40I think you're looking at this from a wrong lens.
25:43The way we are looking at this is that we have a vision and an agenda for Bihar.
25:49And we have a team of young people who represent different segments of the people of Bihar.
25:56And representation matters, a team matters, and together they will deliver on what we are promising.
26:04Okay.
26:04I'll let you come in, Mr. Mehr Subot Mehta Ji.
26:09But first, Zafar Islam, you tell us.
26:13Do you believe this election becomes Tejasvi versus Nitish?
26:17Or does it become Nitish plus Narendra Modi versus Tejasvi and Rahul Gandhi?
26:22Or does it become about the issues now?
26:24What for you is this election about?
26:29First of all, of course, I will respond to your question.
26:33But first of all, he said that it's a united opposition.
26:36But it's only on paper, divided in reality.
26:38Because they are fighting in more number of seats than Bihar has.
26:44So they are fighting on 255 seats as against 243 seats.
26:48That only shows that it's a divided house.
26:50Away from that, what question you have asked, it is between Jangal Raj and Jan Kalyan Raj.
26:56Who has given Jan Kalyan Raj?
26:57It is NDA under the leadership of the Honorable Chief Minister, Mr. Nitish Kumar.
27:02So it is very clear.
27:03They can make Tejasvi as a face, but they don't have people's trust.
27:08People have confidence, time and again, they have reposted confidence in NDA.
27:13They will bless NDA.
27:14They know that the leadership of NDA is someone who really delivers toward the people's expectation.
27:20And Mr. Alavaru has not been able to give maths.
27:24They started speaking about capital expenditure, private investment.
27:28I asked a very simple question.
27:29This Tejasvi Yadav has given the expenditure side of the budget.
27:33So Subhot Mehta, let me take that to the RJD spokesperson.
27:37Subhot Mehta, Tejasvi Yadav is making a lot of promises.
27:42Where will you get these 2.8 crore jobs?
27:46Are they government jobs, private jobs?
27:47Jobs where are they?
27:48Very easy to say.
27:49Rajdeep ji, you know, I would like to pinpoint three things which the BJP spokesperson is, you know, continuously telling about the Lalu Raj as a jungle Raj.
28:02No, Lalu Raj is actually a social justice Raj.
28:05I tell you why.
28:06We have discussed the jungle Raj.
28:10You answer my question.
28:12Where are these jobs?
28:12Let's talk about Tejasvi Yadav.
28:14Forget Lalu for a moment.
28:15Tejasvi Yadav has promised a job per household.
28:19Where will the jobs come from?
28:20Look, Tejasvi Yadav is a person who is known for the idea of welfare of all is the happiness of all.
28:28And Tejasvi Yadav wants to bring the alienated section of the society into the mainstream in the participation of a political system.
28:36And he has promised jobs earlier.
28:40The track record is very fine.
28:42Now we have promised that every household the job will be given.
28:46You know, apart from…
28:47Where will the jobs come from?
28:48Yes, apart from 30 lakh jobs, there are approximately 20 lakh jobs still vacant in the different government departments.
28:57And moreover, when you look to the contractual jobs which are already there in the different departments of Bihar,
29:04it is approximately 50 lakh jobs which are already contractual jobs.
29:08We will have to create more departments, departments like urban development, like housing board.
29:14We don't have a…
29:14Where will you give the money if you give 30,000 rupees to each?
29:17But I just want Amitabh Tiwari to respond.
29:23Amitabh Tiwari, does Tejasvi Yadav go into this election?
29:26Does he go into this election with the burden of being Lalu Prasad's son?
29:31Is that a burden that he carries?
29:33Because of Lalu Raj or so-called Jungle Raj as the BJP calls it?
29:37Or does he go as a fresh-faced young leader compared to a tiring, aging Nitish Kumar?
29:44It is both.
29:45I mean, it is both.
29:46It is for the core voters of BJP and some of the floating undecided voters.
29:52He does carry the burden of being of the Jungle Raj, let's say, or the Adajal Jungle Raj.
29:58And for the youth voters, which is aspirational, he does present the new face of Bihar in a way or the future face of Bihar in a way.
30:06See, what is going to happen is that it seems that there has been some lack of coherence on these announcements by Tejasvi Yadav with respect to employment and the yesterday's announcements or day before yesterday's on the GV Ka Didis.
30:22Because if he would have talked about generation of jobs, it would have still, I think, worked.
30:29But creation of government jobs, I think, is going to be tricky.
30:33So this shows that there has been some lack of coherence because the Congress was not present during those announcements.
30:41And that does not bode well for the alliance going forward.
30:45So I think they will have to come up with answers on these two aspects because the BJP will be harping on these facts.
30:54And we are going to see a fascinating battle for sure.
30:57Let me therefore ask you, Krishna Alavaru, in conclusion, 12 seats, so-called friendly fights.
31:03One thing to project a chief ministerial candidate, what happens to your friendly fights?
31:08First, you've got to be united on the ground.
31:09Are you all united on the ground?
31:11Are you happy to have your friendly fights?
31:15So there are 95 percent of seats where we are contesting individually without quote-unquote friendly fights.
31:25There are some seats where we have tactically agreed to have two symbols because we feel that it may work to our advantage.
31:34There are some seats where we haven't reached agreement, and those seats are fewer than 10.
31:41And I don't think this is the first time friendly fights are happening.
31:43And that does not mean that the united opposition is in disarray.
31:49We had friendly fights in Jharkhand.
31:51We've had friendly fights in Jammu and Kashmir before.
31:54And we formed governments in both the states.
31:57So I think what talking about five to 10 seats where we are having multiple candidates is missing the elephant for the tail.
32:06I mean, you're harping on the tail, but the elephant is fine.
32:09What I would like to point out in return is that the so-called united NDA in Bihar hasn't been able to sit in front of the media and have a joint press conference so far.
32:21We have at least been very clear about the fact that we have a team.
32:26We are united.
32:27I need 10 seconds.
32:28We are more united than the BJP and BJDU.
32:33Okay, you've made your…
32:34I've allowed you…
32:35We have agreed on our team.
32:37They still don't think…
32:37Okay, I've exceeded my time, my producer says, on the Bihar segment.
32:42But I'll give Zafar Islam 10 seconds.
32:44Otherwise, he will accuse me again of being unfair.
32:47What is your point that you want to make?
32:49Krishna Alavaru says they are united.
32:50They've had a joint press conference.
32:52Nithish Kumar does not even address the press anymore.
32:55Nithish Kumar does not even address the press anymore.
32:58We are…
32:59Oh, we are working on the ground.
33:03All our NDA members working unitedly on the ground.
33:08Not coming to media, speaking about friendly fight.
33:12Thank you very much for the friendly fight.
33:14Fight as many seats.
33:17You have friendly fight, we welcome it.
33:19Because we know the consequences.
33:22It is a recipe of massive defeat for you.
33:25We are going to definitely this time achieve a historic win
33:29with a larger number of seats that we have ever achieved as NDA.
33:33Okay, let me leave it there.
33:35I appreciate my guests joining me on the show tonight.
33:38We'll wait and see how the move to make Tejasvi Yadav
33:42as the Chief Minister candidate actually makes an impact,
33:45if at all, on the ground in Bihar.
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