La ministra rumana de Exteriores apoya a Trump para cortar la energía rusa en la UE

Name: La ministra rumana de Exteriores apoya a Trump para cortar la energía rusa en la UE
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La ministra rumana de Exteriores apoya a Trump para cortar la energía rusa en la UE

Eslovaquia y Hungría, países vecinos, están resistiendo la presión de la administración Trump para suspender sus compras de productos energéticos rusos.

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00:30Minister Tsoju, thank you so much for joining us. Welcome to the show.

00:32Thank you for having us.

00:34So I'd like to start with security and defence,

00:36because Romania has experienced several instances of drones violating its airspace,

00:41most recently in early September.

00:44How do you assess the scale of this threat to Romania's security?

00:49We're a country that is safe, because we have our own capacity to defend,

00:54but also because we have the allied forces present in Romania.

00:58But also, we have been here together with our Ministry of Defence, Mr. Jonas Mostanu.

01:03On his side, alongside the other ministries and in the NATO format,

01:07they are working on the preparedness and the increase of our military capacity.

01:12On our side, even in events from the civil society,

01:17as has been the one from the Friends of Europe and Jacques Delors Foundation recently,

01:21we're working on the societal resilience.

01:24What do I mean by that?

01:25Is that even if the general audience has typically noticed the actual incursion into our airspace

01:32and other countries as well, by the Russian drones,

01:36those have always been together with misinformation campaigns,

01:40with the tests that Russia has put on our democracy, on our information spaces,

01:45to also try to change the narrative around those incursions.

01:49We'll get to that issue of societal threat that you mentioned.

01:54But on the military side, can you give us a sense of whether Romania is actually prepared

01:59to shoot down these intruding drones and aircrafts if they're considered a real threat?

02:05Yes, we are prepared.

02:07We have changed our laws recently, so we allow for the pilots of the planes

02:13that are following the drones to shoot, if that is the case.

02:17Also, we have changed the legislation, so we allow for different air defense systems

02:21to be able to also, in the case it is needed, to shoot them down.

02:25It has actually been the case with the recent drone incursion

02:28that the Minister of Defense has given the approval to shoot down the drones.

02:32It is always a matter, though, of assessing the risk,

02:36whether the actual shooting down of the drone doesn't create more risk on the ground

02:40than the potential risk from the drone itself.

02:43But we do have the capacity, the political will and decision.

02:46If we can contribute to diminish the risks that are created on Ukrainian territory,

02:52we're going to contribute to that as well, making sure that if they enter our territory,

02:57we are ready to use our capacity to take them down.

03:00Because you are on the front line, you have the EU's longest land border with Ukraine.

03:05Your government has also said it wants to partner with Ukraine to build more drones,

03:09defensive drones.

03:10Can you give us more information about the scale of that partnership?

03:14When could these drones be operational?

03:16So we have had conversation at the defense level,

03:18but also at the foreign affairs level and governmental level,

03:21to create common projects, but also to create the needed laws and needed approvals

03:28so that the private sphere also advances faster in that direction.

03:33For example, we already have in the private industries projects that are Romanian-Ukrainian

03:38in the sense that they also test the drones commonly using their common knowledge.

03:44And they have also recently acquired investments from the United States.

03:49We want to continue with even more projects, even from the public sphere,

03:54and to be able to have that not just for our own needs in terms of military procurement and capacity,

04:01but also to create this offering together with combat-tested know-how that the Ukrainians now have

04:09in order to have that offering for other states that might need them.

04:13So you're talking about the potential to use these to protect the eastern flank beyond Romania?

04:18Yes, we're assessing now potential projects that do not only produce for our own needs,

04:24but can also create an offering for other countries that want to increase their capacity.

04:30Because when we look at the defense priority, it is clearly that now we have a commitment

04:35at the NATO side, but also at the European level side, to increase our budgets,

04:40to be able to meet that ambition.

04:41You mentioned NATO commitment, EU commitments.

04:45The commitments are certainly there.

04:46We have various initiatives now in order to protect the eastern flank, the so-called drone wall.

04:51The EU has just said that it thinks that could be fully functional by 2027.

04:57Do you agree with that assessment?

04:58We agree with that assessment, and we believe time is of the essence.

05:02Even when we look at the procurements from now on, time is going to be an essential element.

05:07And we have seen that in many other countries that it is not just about the budget or the capacity

05:13or even the strategic partnerships between countries, but it has increasingly become a conversation

05:19that looks at the time element more.

05:22Because obviously we feel the risk more present than we have done before Russia has started this unprovoked aggression towards Ukraine.

05:30You also met with the U.S. Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, just recently.

05:36On Ukraine, what was your message to him and his administration?

05:40We have talked about our common ambition to help to have a peace deal in Ukraine as well,

05:49but also about our reluctance in terms of what we see coming from Russia.

05:54We do not see the proper action, gestures or decisions in that direction.

05:58That is why we are having a continuous conversation on the increase of pressure.

06:03However, we agree in Romania, and I have mentioned this to Secretary of State Marco Rubio as well,

06:09that the ambition that President Trump has put forward, the request actually,

06:14to members of the European Union to cut off from energy sources from Russia that generate profit

06:20that then is used to fund the war, is the proper decision.

06:24Romania has taken that decision for a while now.

06:26Some of the other countries in the region, though, are not aligned with you on this.

06:31They want to continue buying Russian gas.

06:35Do you think President Trump can put pressure on them to change their minds?

06:40Well, I think President Trump has shown that he is willing to use the power of the United States

06:45and the power of his messages to create pressure where he considers that is the case.

06:50I also think that what is needed is to have alternatives in the sense that it is needed in our continent

06:58to have energy sources that are clean, that are reliable, and that are at the right pricing

07:04to allow for that decoupling to happen.

07:09We have seen, for example, energy be used as a war weapon by Russia towards Moldova, for example,

07:15and it has been very important that, together with Moldova and Ukraine,

07:20with help from the European Commission, we've managed to mitigate that very fast.

07:24We'll come on to the issue of Moldova in just a bit.

07:27But you mentioned earlier on these societal threats in Romania,

07:31and over the past year, especially since that presidential runoff was cancelled back in December,

07:37there's been a lot of scrutiny on democracy in Romania.

07:40How are you recovering from this?

07:42How are you restoring trust, not only in public institutions,

07:45but also in Romania's pro-Western path?

07:49So, Romania has always had a pro-Western path, a pro-European path, for many years now,

07:55and this has always been cleared by every euro barometer, every research that has been done.

08:00In the same time, we have seen our elections being threatened by foreign interference

08:05and by instruments that do not align with the principle of democracy and democratic options and votes.

08:13So, some of the things that have happened since then is that our president, Nikosho Ordan,

08:18has presented the full report of the informations that were gathered by the Romanian institution at that point,

08:24and he presented that report to the European leaders,

08:27but he also decided to make that public.

08:29They will continue to share the resources that they have and the lessons learned.

08:33And this is important because those threats do not disappear.

08:38Even if we have one in Romania, in Moldova, the pro-European path has won spectacularly, I would say,

08:45we believe and we expect that the interferences will continue in the sense that

08:50we see the same type of intentions in terms of malign narratives.

08:55So, it is very important that we defend ourselves, not just at the country level,

09:00but at the European Union level, and that we support countries that want to join the European Union in the same process.

09:07You mentioned Moldova.

09:08I did want to ask you, and you mentioned the spectacular, you said, victory for Maya Sando,

09:12the president's pro-EU past party.

09:15Now, there is a sense of frustration in some countries that the EU accession process is not going quick enough.

09:21Is it time to decouple Moldova's bid from Ukraine's, which is being blocked by Viktor Orban and Hungary?

09:27It's time to de-block Ukraine as well.

09:30I think that is very important.

09:32Now, we need to focus on the merit-based approach,

09:34which practically essentially means that each country by its own merit needs to be recognized.

09:40And in that case, Moldova, but Ukraine as well, are way more ahead than where the European Union collectively acknowledges it,

09:49in the sense where you need to have not just cluster one open, but the rest of the clusters as well can be open.

09:55And we need to not forget about the Western Balkans.

09:58And why do I mean that?

09:59It's because I've met today Montenegro, Albania.

10:02They have done spectacular work.

10:04And this is also a momentum for them to...

10:07Today, it's a merit-based process, and you said it, but it's still being held back by political will of Viktor Orban,

10:13who wants to block Ukraine's accession.

10:15So shouldn't it be the case that for Moldova to be able to progress,

10:18that it needs to be decoupled from being coupled with Ukraine in this process?

10:23Well, I think what we need to do is to make sure also internally that we have the proper decision-making reforms.

10:29Because it is clearly not just the merit of Moldova, the merit of Ukraine, Albania, Montenegro, and so on, we can go on.

10:35But it is clearly a problem that we have for ourselves if the will of 26 countries is blocked irresponsibly just by one single vote.

10:45And we need to do the proper reforms, but also fully use the current frame that we have to move forward.

10:50So you agree with European Council President Kostya's proposal to change the rule,

10:55so that it's not unanimity, but a qualified majority to open the next stage?

10:59We're going to have the Council soon, and the final decision is going to come of that.

11:03But yes, Romania thinks we need to move faster, and we need to make sure we do not block our common decisions.

11:10So you support changing from unanimity on this issue?

11:13We're going to have our President present at the Council with the position,

11:17but Romania's stance is very clear towards de-blocking both Moldova and Ukraine.

11:22And you would be willing to do that through changing the rules on unanimity?

11:27As I was saying, the President is going to be present at the Council,

11:30and the final decision is going to come out of that.

11:32But Romania's position so far is to make sure that we de-block both Moldova and Ukraine.

11:37And if that is not possible, we're having a conversation that is not separate from the conversation we're having with Ukraine.

11:44We need to have the acceptance, the approval, and the support of everyone that is on board to be able to move further.

11:52I want to say thank you so much.

11:54Thank you.

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